Thankyou.kiap wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:15 pmIn fairness, his last para is telling non-believers to just shut up and kneel.towny wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:07 pmYou start by saying you would kneel and then spend the rest of your post detailing why others shouldn’t.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:04 pmWouldn't free speech involve letting them kneel or not kneel?towny wrote: ↑Thu Oct 22, 2020 5:40 pm Isn’t it weird that those that supported the bigotry of Folau - demanding that it was his freedom or speech - are now condemning the ‘knee’, because it’s...... reasons that were very different than they used for Folau.
I can’t put my finger on what it is about these people that makes them champions of liberty one minute and strict conformists the next.
What could it be?
My opinion is that I would kneel, even though I think it's kind of stupid. American police behaving badly towards African Americans who were slaves not that very long ago is horrific stuff, but it's got absolutely nothing to do with me.
Colin Kaperneck (or whoever) taking a knee to make a statement is fine and I applaud him, but we shouldn't suddly be pressuring every sports person on television to kneel "or you're a racist!". F-ck off. Stop judging people, got and do something about it for f-cks sake.
So I do get all of that. But also, it takes 10 seconds and I don't think I'd be f-cked making a big hoo-har out of it. I can't help but think those who "refuse" are taking themselves a bit too seriously. "I kneel to no man!". Yeah okay Sir Gallahad, whatever. Just kneel down even if it is kind of dumb, but it might make someone else feel better. It's over with in 10 seconds then let's get down to the real business of rugby.
As for the first part ... I recognize the plight of Aboriginal people more than perhaps most others. My family has a history that I'm very proud of supporting Aboriginal rights, way back to the 30s and 40s. I have newspaper clippings detailing my grandfather's work and political activism to support Aboriginal rights (he was a country doctor, like my Dad).
The thing is, and this is summary of my first post I guess, SJWer's getting all angry and shouty if sports stars don't kneel down for a bit is doing sweet f-ck all really. But, yeah, if it makes someone happy (I suspect it makes more white, privilidged SJW types happy than it makes happy Australian Aboriginals who need real support and real help, but whatever), then it only takes 10 seconds, so put your huge ego in your back pocket and kneel down for 10 seconds.