Olo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:44 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:39 am
Olo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:07 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:52 am
Olo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:05 am
Reece Hodge is the back up 10?
Dude I hate to say it, but I've been saying this for months. His strengths are his cannon-ball boot and that he can fill almost any position in the backline, including
fly-half. It's a big feather in his cap. It's not ideal obv., but he could slot in there in a pinch after a string of injuries. Kind of like Valetini could do in the second row if we were desperate.
I wonder what the logic is behind putting Thor on the bench? We all know he's capable of eighty and he has been probably our best forward if not best player on the park in every game so far. I guess it's some strategic move.
I expect Gordon is just being rotated with Tate, as he's done nothing to deserve being dropped, which is fair enough. Both of them deserve game time and Gordon got two games, it's Tate's turn. I hope he does well.
It would have been JOC starting if fit with Lolesio on the pine. Reece Hodge is not a test 5/8 and I’m sure he would agree. We just got caught with our pants down due to a late injury to the starting fly half.
Gordon is a hack.
I'm pretty sure it would have been 10. JOC 12. Lolo.
R.e. Gordon you're just repeating what some of the other posters are saying, but you're picking the wromg ones to parrot. You should have been around long enough to know that when there's a majority opinion voiced on PR led by that clique you can be almost certain the exact opposite is true.They said the same about Tupou before and more recently Hanigan and Hodge. They have no idea what they're even looking at. I doubt most have them have even played a game since high school.
Gordon is an excellent scrum half and you can be sure to see him again before this International season is done. I'm quite confident its just a planned rotation. We have a number of options and you can't have three scrum halves in a match squad. Tate deserves a chance and Rennie seems sold on White.
P.S. yes of course Hodge is not a specialist fly half. But with multiple unfortunate injuries, he can backup that position and multiple others off the bench. Thats one of his main strengths, he's a bench selection that can plug multiple gaps to a serviceable level that could otherwise be a disaster given a bad run of injuries. That and a howitzer for a right foot.
Lolesio is there as a 10, no question about it. Sure, he could probably slip into 12 at a pinch to close out a game but his natural position is 5/8 and we all see it, including Rennie. No-one here or in the press or on any other rugby site has even mentioned the possibility of him playing 12 at this level. It appears to be unique to you.
Gordon is a decent Soup scrum half. He’s got a good boot, some speed and is not bad running with the ball. Not everyone is cut out for test footy and he strikes me as one of those. Joe Powell has gone OK in test rugby, White is better in tests than in the Soup and Tate looks like the sky could be the limit. Gordon is some way below these 3 in the pecking order.
Yes, I have been around here a long time and know to take everything with a grain of salt. But I’m not talking just about this site. The above is pretty much what is being said across all rugby sites, media and by experts all over the planet. The reason is because its pretty obvious to anyone who has a clue about rugby. I’m not parroting anyone. I just agree with all of those people in the know.
So you're going to stick with this opinion that it's "pretty obvious to anyone who has a clue about rugby" that, I quote, "Gordon is a hack". Really? This has become obvious news to "everyone" literally a day after it's been revealed he's not in the next squad? Or was it obvious to everyone but Rennie only just managed to figure it out now? Always the last to the party that bloke. He should have been getting his information from anonymous Planet Rugby opinions because y'know, "everyone knew". You're talking horseshit my friend.
The fact is that it was fairly obvious to me he would be in the squad, sharing bench-time with Tate, with White at the helm a f-cking months ago. And I posted almost exactly that (I actually predicted Tate would get preference over Gordon to start), and it happened
-- queue the puzzled posts from the cliche, "Gordon? Really ... that's a surprise ... what's next, he's going to select Hanigan? Hodge has a match winning boot and will get selected for his versatility? Hahaha. Ika is such an idiot".
Gordon is not below Tate and Powell in the pecking order. That is more patented horseshit. How do we know? Well ... because he was given his chance above both of them. Is Powell even in the extended squad?
I don't care what website you're getting your information from, whether it's this nuthouse or some other one, you're information is wrong. Gordon is a reliable, quality scrumhalf and he's still relatively young. It's probable that this was a rotation planned back when they first selected the initial training squad. Expect to see him in gold again.
That all said, yes, Tate McDermott is a very exciting prospect. I'm not being some kind of fan-boy for Gordon, I'm just saying he's a well-rounded player. In the long wrong, Tate is the future, but right nowhe is still a bit raw, I fear his pass and lack of a kicking game will be exposed at Test level, but he certainly has the potential to really explode and even win games single-handedly. I hope that he does just as much as everyone else. Tate is more exciting. Gordon is more reliable.