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Zakar wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:52 am
towny wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:42 am
Zakar wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:30 am
towny wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:03 am
Zakar wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 6:51 am

Banks is 26, Maddocks is 23. Both are better.
Cool.

Neither showed it this year when they had ample chance. Maybe another year of development will see them step up to Campbell’s league?
:lol:

Rennie took 4 fullbacks and not him. Campbell showed he couldn't tackle for shit.
But you watched the games, right? If you did, you’d know he was head and shoulders above the others in form this year. Wasn’t close.
Campbell had two good games, and even in these he couldn't tackle 3rd grade fractions.

Shit though, maybe you're a better judge of Dave Rennie and Sleepy Jock is better than the 4 fullbacks actually picked.
Who is calling for Campbell? Do they even watch rugby?
I reckon he would struggle to tackle even me, let alone someone who isnt slow or agile.
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Mog The Almighty wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:52 am
Olo wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:05 am Reece Hodge is the back up 10?
:roll: Dude I hate to say it, but I've been saying this for months. His strengths are his cannon-ball boot and that he can fill almost any position in the backline, including fly-half. It's a big feather in his cap. It's not ideal obv., but he could slot in there in a pinch after a string of injuries. Kind of like Valetini could do in the second row if we were desperate.

I wonder what the logic is behind putting Thor on the bench? We all know he's capable of eighty and he has been probably our best forward if not best player on the park in every game so far. I guess it's some strategic move.

I expect Gordon is just being rotated with Tate, as he's done nothing to deserve being dropped, which is fair enough. Both of them deserve game time and Gordon got two games, it's Tate's turn. I hope he does well.
It would have been JOC starting if fit with Lolesio on the pine. Reece Hodge is not a test 5/8 and I’m sure he would agree. We just got caught with our pants down due to a late injury to the starting fly half.

Gordon is a hack.
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Farva wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:04 am Wait, all better than Gordon?
Yeah, nah.
I was prepared to give him a go, benchwise, Bled I. He's good for making runs from the base and in broken play (albeit White is better).

But what's Gordon's pass like to each side?
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Mog The Almighty wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:01 am
Slim 293 wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:29 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:27 am
Slim 293 wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:18 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:12 am
Yeah ... wait a minute here ... do you actually think he's been "dropped"?

I mean I don't know 100% for sure, you might be right, weirder things have happened than you being right about rugby.

It is true that he was a marked man in the second test ... and rightly so too, he destroyed in the first test ... but he was still good, despite all the extra attention (and that extra attention means less attention elsewhere, it evens out, even if the player doesn't stand out as much). I can almost guarantee that Rennie has identified some problem in our, or some strength in their, second half, and he's on the bench to come on a rampage all over everyone when they're tired. I'm 99% sure it's a strategic move. It would seem extremely odd and grossly unfair if it were performance based. He's clearly been one of our best players, if not the best over the past two games.

Nah, he’s been replaced because aside from the scrum he was f**king useless, and at one point kicked the ball back to the AB’s so they could score...

AAA will get more work done around the ground and then hopefully Tupou can provide some impact off the bench against tiring players.
Absolute nonsense.

So, you didn’t watch the game?

Cool... stick to those YouTube highlights.
:lol: That's what you were saying when I told you he was the best scrummager in Australia. I think your exact words were, "he's the worst scrummaging prop in Australia. Stick to those YouTube highlights". :lol:

Thor is a beast, and if he's on the bench, it's for a good reason, and that reason is not because he's shit.
You said he was the best scrummager in Australia, prematurely, at a time when he clearly wasn’t even the best scrummaging tight head in his own team..

He’s improved immensely since that time, but just needs to now contribute more around the field.

And those were not my exact words at all, so keep up the astute observations. :thumbup:
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Olo wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:07 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:52 am
Olo wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:05 am Reece Hodge is the back up 10?
:roll: Dude I hate to say it, but I've been saying this for months. His strengths are his cannon-ball boot and that he can fill almost any position in the backline, including fly-half. It's a big feather in his cap. It's not ideal obv., but he could slot in there in a pinch after a string of injuries. Kind of like Valetini could do in the second row if we were desperate.

I wonder what the logic is behind putting Thor on the bench? We all know he's capable of eighty and he has been probably our best forward if not best player on the park in every game so far. I guess it's some strategic move.

I expect Gordon is just being rotated with Tate, as he's done nothing to deserve being dropped, which is fair enough. Both of them deserve game time and Gordon got two games, it's Tate's turn. I hope he does well.
It would have been JOC starting if fit with Lolesio on the pine. Reece Hodge is not a test 5/8 and I’m sure he would agree. We just got caught with our pants down due to a late injury to the starting fly half.

Gordon is a hack.
I'm pretty sure it would have been 10. JOC 12. Lolo.

R.e. Gordon you're just repeating what some of the other posters are saying, but you're picking the wromg ones to parrot. You should have been around long enough to know that when there's a majority opinion voiced on PR led by that clique you can be almost certain the exact opposite is true.They said the same about Tupou before and more recently Hanigan and Hodge. They have no idea what they're even looking at. I doubt most have them have even played a game since high school.

Gordon is an excellent scrum half and you can be sure to see him again before this International season is done. I'm quite confident its just a planned rotation. We have a number of options and you can't have three scrum halves in a match squad. Tate deserves a chance and Rennie seems sold on White.

P.S. yes of course Hodge is not a specialist fly half. But with multiple unfortunate injuries, he can backup that position and multiple others off the bench. Thats one of his main strengths, he's a bench selection that can plug multiple gaps to a serviceable level that could otherwise be a disaster given a bad run of injuries. That and a howitzer for a right foot.
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It wasn’t...

It was going to be 10. JOC 12. Simone until JOC’s injury.
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Slim 293 wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:45 am It wasn’t...

It was going to be 10. JOC 12. Simone until JOC’s injury.
Yeah possibly. That would have been the conservative option. I should have said 10. JOC 12. LOLO is what I personally would have liked to see. But I like to live dangerously.
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In what universe would giving Simone a debut cap against NZ be a conservative move?
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Mog The Almighty wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:48 am Geezus. JOC out now too. That's a kick in the guts.

I guess we're looking at:

10. Lolosio
12. Simone
13. Paisami / Petia

11-14. Who cares

15. DHP

edit: just saw the team sheet on the prev. page.
Are you drunk? Why would you think Petaia isn’t first picked in this team? Do you watch the games or just get Kearns’ audio?
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SFBB wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:04 am In what universe would giving Simone a debut cap against NZ be a conservative move?
Ika thought Lolesio would play 12, because that’s his natural position.
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Mog The Almighty wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:39 am
Olo wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:07 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:52 am
Olo wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:05 am Reece Hodge is the back up 10?
:roll: Dude I hate to say it, but I've been saying this for months. His strengths are his cannon-ball boot and that he can fill almost any position in the backline, including fly-half. It's a big feather in his cap. It's not ideal obv., but he could slot in there in a pinch after a string of injuries. Kind of like Valetini could do in the second row if we were desperate.

I wonder what the logic is behind putting Thor on the bench? We all know he's capable of eighty and he has been probably our best forward if not best player on the park in every game so far. I guess it's some strategic move.

I expect Gordon is just being rotated with Tate, as he's done nothing to deserve being dropped, which is fair enough. Both of them deserve game time and Gordon got two games, it's Tate's turn. I hope he does well.
It would have been JOC starting if fit with Lolesio on the pine. Reece Hodge is not a test 5/8 and I’m sure he would agree. We just got caught with our pants down due to a late injury to the starting fly half.

Gordon is a hack.
I'm pretty sure it would have been 10. JOC 12. Lolo.

R.e. Gordon you're just repeating what some of the other posters are saying, but you're picking the wromg ones to parrot. You should have been around long enough to know that when there's a majority opinion voiced on PR led by that clique you can be almost certain the exact opposite is true.They said the same about Tupou before and more recently Hanigan and Hodge. They have no idea what they're even looking at. I doubt most have them have even played a game since high school.

Gordon is an excellent scrum half and you can be sure to see him again before this International season is done. I'm quite confident its just a planned rotation. We have a number of options and you can't have three scrum halves in a match squad. Tate deserves a chance and Rennie seems sold on White.

P.S. yes of course Hodge is not a specialist fly half. But with multiple unfortunate injuries, he can backup that position and multiple others off the bench. Thats one of his main strengths, he's a bench selection that can plug multiple gaps to a serviceable level that could otherwise be a disaster given a bad run of injuries. That and a howitzer for a right foot.
Gordon played two games but didn’t prove to Rennie he was worthy of a third game.

So Rennie has gone with Tate, who’ll take to test rugby like a duck to water. You can spend the next few years bitching about his pass as he dominates the gold ‘9’ jersey.

Planned rotation? Gordon has played 40 minutes of rugby in 2 months. You’re saying he was due for a rest? Who else is being rotated?
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Thor is presumably the backup 10. Talented bloke.
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Farva wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:06 am
Zakar wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:52 am
towny wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:42 am
Zakar wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:30 am
towny wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:03 am

Cool.

Neither showed it this year when they had ample chance. Maybe another year of development will see them step up to Campbell’s league?
:lol:

Rennie took 4 fullbacks and not him. Campbell showed he couldn't tackle for shit.
But you watched the games, right? If you did, you’d know he was head and shoulders above the others in form this year. Wasn’t close.
Campbell had two good games, and even in these he couldn't tackle 3rd grade fractions.

Shit though, maybe you're a better judge of Dave Rennie and Sleepy Jock is better than the 4 fullbacks actually picked.
Who is calling for Campbell? Do they even watch rugby?
I reckon he would struggle to tackle even me, let alone someone who isnt slow or agile.
He’s a gun. I don’t think he’s ready for test rugby, but he was clearly the form 15 in SRA. I bet he’ll wear gold in 2021.
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FairWeather_Aussie wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:00 am The Brumbies alone have 4 scrum halves that are better than Gordan:

White - Obviously
Powell - Quite underrated. Controls the game really well and was a strong part of the Brumbies success this year.
Lonergan - Better than Powell and will be a Wallaby one day
Fines - Didn’t embarrass himself at all when he played due to injuries. Surprisingly good.
4 scrum halves better than Tate? Interesting.

I rate Fines and hear Lonergan is going to be very good. But Powell is a dead-to-rights journeyman. A test team with him at 9 isn't going to beat anyone. He's just meh.

Tate will play 100 tests and you're going to spend the next decade sounding like those NSW turnips that wanted to drop Gregan for Whitaker. All the best to you.
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towny wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:13 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:39 am
Olo wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:07 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:52 am
Olo wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:05 am Reece Hodge is the back up 10?
:roll: Dude I hate to say it, but I've been saying this for months. His strengths are his cannon-ball boot and that he can fill almost any position in the backline, including fly-half. It's a big feather in his cap. It's not ideal obv., but he could slot in there in a pinch after a string of injuries. Kind of like Valetini could do in the second row if we were desperate.

I wonder what the logic is behind putting Thor on the bench? We all know he's capable of eighty and he has been probably our best forward if not best player on the park in every game so far. I guess it's some strategic move.

I expect Gordon is just being rotated with Tate, as he's done nothing to deserve being dropped, which is fair enough. Both of them deserve game time and Gordon got two games, it's Tate's turn. I hope he does well.
It would have been JOC starting if fit with Lolesio on the pine. Reece Hodge is not a test 5/8 and I’m sure he would agree. We just got caught with our pants down due to a late injury to the starting fly half.

Gordon is a hack.
I'm pretty sure it would have been 10. JOC 12. Lolo.

R.e. Gordon you're just repeating what some of the other posters are saying, but you're picking the wromg ones to parrot. You should have been around long enough to know that when there's a majority opinion voiced on PR led by that clique you can be almost certain the exact opposite is true.They said the same about Tupou before and more recently Hanigan and Hodge. They have no idea what they're even looking at. I doubt most have them have even played a game since high school.

Gordon is an excellent scrum half and you can be sure to see him again before this International season is done. I'm quite confident its just a planned rotation. We have a number of options and you can't have three scrum halves in a match squad. Tate deserves a chance and Rennie seems sold on White.

P.S. yes of course Hodge is not a specialist fly half. But with multiple unfortunate injuries, he can backup that position and multiple others off the bench. Thats one of his main strengths, he's a bench selection that can plug multiple gaps to a serviceable level that could otherwise be a disaster given a bad run of injuries. That and a howitzer for a right foot.
Gordon played two games but didn’t prove to Rennie he was worthy of a third game.

So Rennie has gone with Tate, who’ll take to test rugby like a duck to water. You can spend the next few years bitching about his pass as he dominates the gold ‘9’ jersey.

Planned rotation? Gordon has played 40 minutes of rugby in 2 months. You’re saying he was due for a rest? Who else is being rotated?
It's simple towny. There's one old stalwart (White) and two relatively new up-and-comers (Gordon and Tate). You can't have three scrumhalfs in a match-day squad. You figure it out.
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Mog The Almighty wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:39 am
Olo wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:07 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:52 am
Olo wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:05 am Reece Hodge is the back up 10?
:roll: Dude I hate to say it, but I've been saying this for months. His strengths are his cannon-ball boot and that he can fill almost any position in the backline, including fly-half. It's a big feather in his cap. It's not ideal obv., but he could slot in there in a pinch after a string of injuries. Kind of like Valetini could do in the second row if we were desperate.

I wonder what the logic is behind putting Thor on the bench? We all know he's capable of eighty and he has been probably our best forward if not best player on the park in every game so far. I guess it's some strategic move.

I expect Gordon is just being rotated with Tate, as he's done nothing to deserve being dropped, which is fair enough. Both of them deserve game time and Gordon got two games, it's Tate's turn. I hope he does well.
It would have been JOC starting if fit with Lolesio on the pine. Reece Hodge is not a test 5/8 and I’m sure he would agree. We just got caught with our pants down due to a late injury to the starting fly half.

Gordon is a hack.
I'm pretty sure it would have been 10. JOC 12. Lolo.

R.e. Gordon you're just repeating what some of the other posters are saying, but you're picking the wromg ones to parrot. You should have been around long enough to know that when there's a majority opinion voiced on PR led by that clique you can be almost certain the exact opposite is true.They said the same about Tupou before and more recently Hanigan and Hodge. They have no idea what they're even looking at. I doubt most have them have even played a game since high school.

Gordon is an excellent scrum half and you can be sure to see him again before this International season is done. I'm quite confident its just a planned rotation. We have a number of options and you can't have three scrum halves in a match squad. Tate deserves a chance and Rennie seems sold on White.

P.S. yes of course Hodge is not a specialist fly half. But with multiple unfortunate injuries, he can backup that position and multiple others off the bench. Thats one of his main strengths, he's a bench selection that can plug multiple gaps to a serviceable level that could otherwise be a disaster given a bad run of injuries. That and a howitzer for a right foot.
Lolesio is there as a 10, no question about it. Sure, he could probably slip into 12 at a pinch to close out a game but his natural position is 5/8 and we all see it, including Rennie. No-one here or in the press or on any other rugby site has even mentioned the possibility of him playing 12 at this level. It appears to be unique to you.
Gordon is a decent Soup scrum half. He’s got a good boot, some speed and is not bad running with the ball. Not everyone is cut out for test footy and he strikes me as one of those. Joe Powell has gone OK in test rugby, White is better in tests than in the Soup and Tate looks like the sky could be the limit. Gordon is some way below these 3 in the pecking order.

Yes, I have been around here a long time and know to take everything with a grain of salt. But I’m not talking just about this site. The above is pretty much what is being said across all rugby sites, media and by experts all over the planet. The reason is because its pretty obvious to anyone who has a clue about rugby. I’m not parroting anyone. I just agree with all of those people in the know.
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Mog The Almighty wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:35 am
towny wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:13 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:39 am
Olo wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:07 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:52 am
:roll: Dude I hate to say it, but I've been saying this for months. His strengths are his cannon-ball boot and that he can fill almost any position in the backline, including fly-half. It's a big feather in his cap. It's not ideal obv., but he could slot in there in a pinch after a string of injuries. Kind of like Valetini could do in the second row if we were desperate.

I wonder what the logic is behind putting Thor on the bench? We all know he's capable of eighty and he has been probably our best forward if not best player on the park in every game so far. I guess it's some strategic move.

I expect Gordon is just being rotated with Tate, as he's done nothing to deserve being dropped, which is fair enough. Both of them deserve game time and Gordon got two games, it's Tate's turn. I hope he does well.
It would have been JOC starting if fit with Lolesio on the pine. Reece Hodge is not a test 5/8 and I’m sure he would agree. We just got caught with our pants down due to a late injury to the starting fly half.

Gordon is a hack.
I'm pretty sure it would have been 10. JOC 12. Lolo.

R.e. Gordon you're just repeating what some of the other posters are saying, but you're picking the wromg ones to parrot. You should have been around long enough to know that when there's a majority opinion voiced on PR led by that clique you can be almost certain the exact opposite is true.They said the same about Tupou before and more recently Hanigan and Hodge. They have no idea what they're even looking at. I doubt most have them have even played a game since high school.

Gordon is an excellent scrum half and you can be sure to see him again before this International season is done. I'm quite confident its just a planned rotation. We have a number of options and you can't have three scrum halves in a match squad. Tate deserves a chance and Rennie seems sold on White.

P.S. yes of course Hodge is not a specialist fly half. But with multiple unfortunate injuries, he can backup that position and multiple others off the bench. Thats one of his main strengths, he's a bench selection that can plug multiple gaps to a serviceable level that could otherwise be a disaster given a bad run of injuries. That and a howitzer for a right foot.
Gordon played two games but didn’t prove to Rennie he was worthy of a third game.

So Rennie has gone with Tate, who’ll take to test rugby like a duck to water. You can spend the next few years bitching about his pass as he dominates the gold ‘9’ jersey.

Planned rotation? Gordon has played 40 minutes of rugby in 2 months. You’re saying he was due for a rest? Who else is being rotated?
It's simple towny. There's one old stalwart (White) and two relatively new up-and-comers (Gordon and Tate). You can't have three scrumhalfs in a match-day squad. You figure it out.
What other positions is Rennie rotating? Is this policy specifically for scrumhalves to ensure they all get a game, regardless of form?

Gordon won't play test rugby again until White or Tate are injured. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up stuck on 2 caps. He had his shot, which is better than most of us. But I fear he's done.
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Olo wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:44 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:39 am
Olo wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:07 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:52 am
Olo wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:05 am Reece Hodge is the back up 10?
:roll: Dude I hate to say it, but I've been saying this for months. His strengths are his cannon-ball boot and that he can fill almost any position in the backline, including fly-half. It's a big feather in his cap. It's not ideal obv., but he could slot in there in a pinch after a string of injuries. Kind of like Valetini could do in the second row if we were desperate.

I wonder what the logic is behind putting Thor on the bench? We all know he's capable of eighty and he has been probably our best forward if not best player on the park in every game so far. I guess it's some strategic move.

I expect Gordon is just being rotated with Tate, as he's done nothing to deserve being dropped, which is fair enough. Both of them deserve game time and Gordon got two games, it's Tate's turn. I hope he does well.
It would have been JOC starting if fit with Lolesio on the pine. Reece Hodge is not a test 5/8 and I’m sure he would agree. We just got caught with our pants down due to a late injury to the starting fly half.

Gordon is a hack.
I'm pretty sure it would have been 10. JOC 12. Lolo.

R.e. Gordon you're just repeating what some of the other posters are saying, but you're picking the wromg ones to parrot. You should have been around long enough to know that when there's a majority opinion voiced on PR led by that clique you can be almost certain the exact opposite is true.They said the same about Tupou before and more recently Hanigan and Hodge. They have no idea what they're even looking at. I doubt most have them have even played a game since high school.

Gordon is an excellent scrum half and you can be sure to see him again before this International season is done. I'm quite confident its just a planned rotation. We have a number of options and you can't have three scrum halves in a match squad. Tate deserves a chance and Rennie seems sold on White.

P.S. yes of course Hodge is not a specialist fly half. But with multiple unfortunate injuries, he can backup that position and multiple others off the bench. Thats one of his main strengths, he's a bench selection that can plug multiple gaps to a serviceable level that could otherwise be a disaster given a bad run of injuries. That and a howitzer for a right foot.
Lolesio is there as a 10, no question about it. Sure, he could probably slip into 12 at a pinch to close out a game but his natural position is 5/8 and we all see it, including Rennie. No-one here or in the press or on any other rugby site has even mentioned the possibility of him playing 12 at this level. It appears to be unique to you.
Gordon is a decent Soup scrum half. He’s got a good boot, some speed and is not bad running with the ball. Not everyone is cut out for test footy and he strikes me as one of those. Joe Powell has gone OK in test rugby, White is better in tests than in the Soup and Tate looks like the sky could be the limit. Gordon is some way below these 3 in the pecking order.

Yes, I have been around here a long time and know to take everything with a grain of salt. But I’m not talking just about this site. The above is pretty much what is being said across all rugby sites, media and by experts all over the planet. The reason is because its pretty obvious to anyone who has a clue about rugby. I’m not parroting anyone. I just agree with all of those people in the know.
Very fine post Olo.
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Olo wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:44 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:39 am
Olo wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:07 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:52 am
Olo wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 2:05 am Reece Hodge is the back up 10?
:roll: Dude I hate to say it, but I've been saying this for months. His strengths are his cannon-ball boot and that he can fill almost any position in the backline, including fly-half. It's a big feather in his cap. It's not ideal obv., but he could slot in there in a pinch after a string of injuries. Kind of like Valetini could do in the second row if we were desperate.

I wonder what the logic is behind putting Thor on the bench? We all know he's capable of eighty and he has been probably our best forward if not best player on the park in every game so far. I guess it's some strategic move.

I expect Gordon is just being rotated with Tate, as he's done nothing to deserve being dropped, which is fair enough. Both of them deserve game time and Gordon got two games, it's Tate's turn. I hope he does well.
It would have been JOC starting if fit with Lolesio on the pine. Reece Hodge is not a test 5/8 and I’m sure he would agree. We just got caught with our pants down due to a late injury to the starting fly half.

Gordon is a hack.
I'm pretty sure it would have been 10. JOC 12. Lolo.

R.e. Gordon you're just repeating what some of the other posters are saying, but you're picking the wromg ones to parrot. You should have been around long enough to know that when there's a majority opinion voiced on PR led by that clique you can be almost certain the exact opposite is true.They said the same about Tupou before and more recently Hanigan and Hodge. They have no idea what they're even looking at. I doubt most have them have even played a game since high school.

Gordon is an excellent scrum half and you can be sure to see him again before this International season is done. I'm quite confident its just a planned rotation. We have a number of options and you can't have three scrum halves in a match squad. Tate deserves a chance and Rennie seems sold on White.

P.S. yes of course Hodge is not a specialist fly half. But with multiple unfortunate injuries, he can backup that position and multiple others off the bench. Thats one of his main strengths, he's a bench selection that can plug multiple gaps to a serviceable level that could otherwise be a disaster given a bad run of injuries. That and a howitzer for a right foot.
Lolesio is there as a 10, no question about it. Sure, he could probably slip into 12 at a pinch to close out a game but his natural position is 5/8 and we all see it, including Rennie. No-one here or in the press or on any other rugby site has even mentioned the possibility of him playing 12 at this level. It appears to be unique to you.
Gordon is a decent Soup scrum half. He’s got a good boot, some speed and is not bad running with the ball. Not everyone is cut out for test footy and he strikes me as one of those. Joe Powell has gone OK in test rugby, White is better in tests than in the Soup and Tate looks like the sky could be the limit. Gordon is some way below these 3 in the pecking order.

Yes, I have been around here a long time and know to take everything with a grain of salt. But I’m not talking just about this site. The above is pretty much what is being said across all rugby sites, media and by experts all over the planet. The reason is because its pretty obvious to anyone who has a clue about rugby. I’m not parroting anyone. I just agree with all of those people in the know.
Bullshit.

So you're going to stick with this opinion that it's "pretty obvious to anyone who has a clue about rugby" that, I quote, "Gordon is a hack". Really? This has become obvious news to "everyone" literally a day after it's been revealed he's not in the next squad? Or was it obvious to everyone but Rennie only just managed to figure it out now? Always the last to the party that bloke. He should have been getting his information from anonymous Planet Rugby opinions because y'know, "everyone knew". You're talking horseshit my friend.

The fact is that it was fairly obvious to me he would be in the squad, sharing bench-time with Tate, with White at the helm a f-cking months ago. And I posted almost exactly that (I actually predicted Tate would get preference over Gordon to start), and it happened -- queue the puzzled posts from the cliche, "Gordon? Really ... that's a surprise ... what's next, he's going to select Hanigan? Hodge has a match winning boot and will get selected for his versatility? Hahaha. Ika is such an idiot".

Gordon is not below Tate and Powell in the pecking order. That is more patented horseshit. How do we know? Well ... because he was given his chance above both of them. Is Powell even in the extended squad?

I don't care what website you're getting your information from, whether it's this nuthouse or some other one, you're information is wrong. Gordon is a reliable, quality scrumhalf and he's still relatively young. It's probable that this was a rotation planned back when they first selected the initial training squad. Expect to see him in gold again.

That all said, yes, Tate McDermott is a very exciting prospect. I'm not being some kind of fan-boy for Gordon, I'm just saying he's a well-rounded player. In the long wrong, Tate is the future, but right nowhe is still a bit raw, I fear his pass and lack of a kicking game will be exposed at Test level, but he certainly has the potential to really explode and even win games single-handedly. I hope that he does just as much as everyone else. Tate is more exciting. Gordon is more reliable.
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towny wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:25 am
Farva wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:06 am
Zakar wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:52 am
towny wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:42 am
Zakar wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:30 am

:lol:

Rennie took 4 fullbacks and not him. Campbell showed he couldn't tackle for shit.
But you watched the games, right? If you did, you’d know he was head and shoulders above the others in form this year. Wasn’t close.
Campbell had two good games, and even in these he couldn't tackle 3rd grade fractions.

Shit though, maybe you're a better judge of Dave Rennie and Sleepy Jock is better than the 4 fullbacks actually picked.
Who is calling for Campbell? Do they even watch rugby?
I reckon he would struggle to tackle even me, let alone someone who isnt slow or agile.
He’s a gun. I don’t think he’s ready for test rugby, but he was clearly the fourth form 15 in SRA. I bet he’ll wear gold in 2021.
You missed a word.
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Farva wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:15 am
towny wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:25 am
Farva wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:06 am
Zakar wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:52 am
towny wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:42 am

But you watched the games, right? If you did, you’d know he was head and shoulders above the others in form this year. Wasn’t close.
Campbell had two good games, and even in these he couldn't tackle 3rd grade fractions.

Shit though, maybe you're a better judge of Dave Rennie and Sleepy Jock is better than the 4 fullbacks actually picked.
Who is calling for Campbell? Do they even watch rugby?
I reckon he would struggle to tackle even me, let alone someone who isnt slow or agile.
He’s a gun. I don’t think he’s ready for test rugby, but he was clearly the fourth form 15 in SRA. I bet he’ll wear gold in 2021.
You missed a word.
Have to correct you, Farva. Towny, didn't miss a word, he put in a superfluous word - there should be no 'fourth' in there.
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Campbell or no Campbell, this is a tremendously exciting Wallabies 23 for Bledisloe III - you can see the future of Australian rugby starting to unfold. Go the Gold!
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DHP
Banks
Hodge
Maddocks

Daylight

Campbell.

Campbell is not the form fullback of super rugby

I added fourth. It should have been fifth.
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When you faux rugby supporters Watch this clip, keep an eye on Three things:
1. Jock Campbell slicing through the Rebels pack like a LASER!
2. BPA's incredible support play
3. Naisirani's loping pod up the field

This is why Naisirani wasn't in the initial squad. No way he should be more tired than a Hooker at this part of a game, yet BPA burns him like he's standing still from the 50m line. Any 8 Worth his salt would have made an impact on this play. I am not saying Naisirani can't be a good 8 at test level, but he needs to either get faster or fitter than this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9iXWHE6ob8
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Farva wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:51 am DHP
Banks
Hodge
Maddocks

Daylight

Campbell.

Campbell is not the form fullback of super rugby

I added fourth. It should have been fifth.
What game impressed you most from DHP this year? Being the form 15, I presume there were many stand-outs, but you only have to give me one.
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towny wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:54 am
Farva wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:51 am DHP
Banks
Hodge
Maddocks

Daylight

Campbell.

Campbell is not the form fullback of super rugby

I added fourth. It should have been fifth.
What game impressed you most from DHP this year? Being the form 15, I presume there were many stand-outs, but you only have to give me one.
Do you think it's possible that a player could still be the best selection for a team even if they have not amassed a highlight reel of individual stand-out moments in the season?

DHP is reliable, experienced, solid under the high ball, big and relatively quick. He might not have a extensive highlight reel but I can understand the selection, partly because I really can't think of any other stand-out options.
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towny wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:54 am
What game impressed you most from DHP this year? Being the form 15, I presume there were many stand-outs, but you only have to give me one.
Bledisloe 3
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Banks has been solid under the high ball and his line kicking has been good but he has offered nothing in attack. DHP gets a shot now. I’m not his greatest fan but he has been pretty good at test level to date.
One of Banks or Maddocks needs to take their opportunity. I think it will be Maddocks. He has played at 5/8 so offers himself as a second playmaker and he has a very good turn of speed. It looked as though he has found his spot there at the Tahs.
Hodge should be given a chance too. In DHPs absence this year he looked good for the Rebels at 15.
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Mog The Almighty wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:52 am
Olo wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:44 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:39 am
Olo wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:07 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:52 am
:roll: Dude I hate to say it, but I've been saying this for months. His strengths are his cannon-ball boot and that he can fill almost any position in the backline, including fly-half. It's a big feather in his cap. It's not ideal obv., but he could slot in there in a pinch after a string of injuries. Kind of like Valetini could do in the second row if we were desperate.

I wonder what the logic is behind putting Thor on the bench? We all know he's capable of eighty and he has been probably our best forward if not best player on the park in every game so far. I guess it's some strategic move.

I expect Gordon is just being rotated with Tate, as he's done nothing to deserve being dropped, which is fair enough. Both of them deserve game time and Gordon got two games, it's Tate's turn. I hope he does well.
It would have been JOC starting if fit with Lolesio on the pine. Reece Hodge is not a test 5/8 and I’m sure he would agree. We just got caught with our pants down due to a late injury to the starting fly half.

Gordon is a hack.
I'm pretty sure it would have been 10. JOC 12. Lolo.

R.e. Gordon you're just repeating what some of the other posters are saying, but you're picking the wromg ones to parrot. You should have been around long enough to know that when there's a majority opinion voiced on PR led by that clique you can be almost certain the exact opposite is true.They said the same about Tupou before and more recently Hanigan and Hodge. They have no idea what they're even looking at. I doubt most have them have even played a game since high school.

Gordon is an excellent scrum half and you can be sure to see him again before this International season is done. I'm quite confident its just a planned rotation. We have a number of options and you can't have three scrum halves in a match squad. Tate deserves a chance and Rennie seems sold on White.

P.S. yes of course Hodge is not a specialist fly half. But with multiple unfortunate injuries, he can backup that position and multiple others off the bench. Thats one of his main strengths, he's a bench selection that can plug multiple gaps to a serviceable level that could otherwise be a disaster given a bad run of injuries. That and a howitzer for a right foot.
Lolesio is there as a 10, no question about it. Sure, he could probably slip into 12 at a pinch to close out a game but his natural position is 5/8 and we all see it, including Rennie. No-one here or in the press or on any other rugby site has even mentioned the possibility of him playing 12 at this level. It appears to be unique to you.
Gordon is a decent Soup scrum half. He’s got a good boot, some speed and is not bad running with the ball. Not everyone is cut out for test footy and he strikes me as one of those. Joe Powell has gone OK in test rugby, White is better in tests than in the Soup and Tate looks like the sky could be the limit. Gordon is some way below these 3 in the pecking order.

Yes, I have been around here a long time and know to take everything with a grain of salt. But I’m not talking just about this site. The above is pretty much what is being said across all rugby sites, media and by experts all over the planet. The reason is because its pretty obvious to anyone who has a clue about rugby. I’m not parroting anyone. I just agree with all of those people in the know.
Bullshit.

So you're going to stick with this opinion that it's "pretty obvious to anyone who has a clue about rugby" that, I quote, "Gordon is a hack". Really? This has become obvious news to "everyone" literally a day after it's been revealed he's not in the next squad? Or was it obvious to everyone but Rennie only just managed to figure it out now? Always the last to the party that bloke. He should have been getting his information from anonymous Planet Rugby opinions because y'know, "everyone knew". You're talking horseshit my friend.

The fact is that it was fairly obvious to me he would be in the squad, sharing bench-time with Tate, with White at the helm a f-cking months ago. And I posted almost exactly that (I actually predicted Tate would get preference over Gordon to start), and it happened -- queue the puzzled posts from the cliche, "Gordon? Really ... that's a surprise ... what's next, he's going to select Hanigan? Hodge has a match winning boot and will get selected for his versatility? Hahaha. Ika is such an idiot".

Gordon is not below Tate and Powell in the pecking order. That is more patented horseshit. How do we know? Well ... because he was given his chance above both of them. Is Powell even in the extended squad?

I don't care what website you're getting your information from, whether it's this nuthouse or some other one, you're information is wrong. Gordon is a reliable, quality scrumhalf and he's still relatively young. It's probable that this was a rotation planned back when they first selected the initial training squad. Expect to see him in gold again.

That all said, yes, Tate McDermott is a very exciting prospect. I'm not being some kind of fan-boy for Gordon, I'm just saying he's a well-rounded player. In the long wrong, Tate is the future, but right nowhe is still a bit raw, I fear his pass and lack of a kicking game will be exposed at Test level, but he certainly has the potential to really explode and even win games single-handedly. I hope that he does just as much as everyone else. Tate is more exciting. Gordon is more reliable.
Just read this article...
their selections did raise some eyebrows given the brief cameo of Liam Wright and the solid performances of Jake Gordon in the opening two Tests.
- rugby.com.au
“I think Jake Gordon’s been really strong and probably unlucky (to be dropped); we were always keen to give some of our young men a crack."
- Dave Rennie.

So is it fair that I notch this up as yet another "told you so"? It's getting tedious being right all the time.

And so much for, "the above is pretty much what is being said across all rugby sites, media and by experts all over the planet.". :roll: It's not even the opinion of the official rugby site or the f-cking coach. :lol: It's the opinion of a few big mouths on this forum, that's all. Don't confuse any of the PR clique nutters as "experts" in anything.
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Mog The Almighty wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:52 am
Olo wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:44 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:39 am
Olo wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:07 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:52 am
:roll: Dude I hate to say it, but I've been saying this for months. His strengths are his cannon-ball boot and that he can fill almost any position in the backline, including fly-half. It's a big feather in his cap. It's not ideal obv., but he could slot in there in a pinch after a string of injuries. Kind of like Valetini could do in the second row if we were desperate.

I wonder what the logic is behind putting Thor on the bench? We all know he's capable of eighty and he has been probably our best forward if not best player on the park in every game so far. I guess it's some strategic move.

I expect Gordon is just being rotated with Tate, as he's done nothing to deserve being dropped, which is fair enough. Both of them deserve game time and Gordon got two games, it's Tate's turn. I hope he does well.
It would have been JOC starting if fit with Lolesio on the pine. Reece Hodge is not a test 5/8 and I’m sure he would agree. We just got caught with our pants down due to a late injury to the starting fly half.

Gordon is a hack.
I'm pretty sure it would have been 10. JOC 12. Lolo.

R.e. Gordon you're just repeating what some of the other posters are saying, but you're picking the wromg ones to parrot. You should have been around long enough to know that when there's a majority opinion voiced on PR led by that clique you can be almost certain the exact opposite is true.They said the same about Tupou before and more recently Hanigan and Hodge. They have no idea what they're even looking at. I doubt most have them have even played a game since high school.

Gordon is an excellent scrum half and you can be sure to see him again before this International season is done. I'm quite confident its just a planned rotation. We have a number of options and you can't have three scrum halves in a match squad. Tate deserves a chance and Rennie seems sold on White.

P.S. yes of course Hodge is not a specialist fly half. But with multiple unfortunate injuries, he can backup that position and multiple others off the bench. Thats one of his main strengths, he's a bench selection that can plug multiple gaps to a serviceable level that could otherwise be a disaster given a bad run of injuries. That and a howitzer for a right foot.
Lolesio is there as a 10, no question about it. Sure, he could probably slip into 12 at a pinch to close out a game but his natural position is 5/8 and we all see it, including Rennie. No-one here or in the press or on any other rugby site has even mentioned the possibility of him playing 12 at this level. It appears to be unique to you.
Gordon is a decent Soup scrum half. He’s got a good boot, some speed and is not bad running with the ball. Not everyone is cut out for test footy and he strikes me as one of those. Joe Powell has gone OK in test rugby, White is better in tests than in the Soup and Tate looks like the sky could be the limit. Gordon is some way below these 3 in the pecking order.

Yes, I have been around here a long time and know to take everything with a grain of salt. But I’m not talking just about this site. The above is pretty much what is being said across all rugby sites, media and by experts all over the planet. The reason is because its pretty obvious to anyone who has a clue about rugby. I’m not parroting anyone. I just agree with all of those people in the know.
Bullshit.

So you're going to stick with this opinion that it's "pretty obvious to anyone who has a clue about rugby" that, I quote, "Gordon is a hack". Really? This has become obvious news to "everyone" literally a day after it's been revealed he's not in the next squad? Or was it obvious to everyone but Rennie only just managed to figure it out now? Always the last to the party that bloke. He should have been getting his information from anonymous Planet Rugby opinions because y'know, "everyone knew". You're talking horseshit my friend.

The fact is that it was fairly obvious to me he would be in the squad, sharing bench-time with Tate, with White at the helm a f-cking months ago. And I posted almost exactly that (I actually predicted Tate would get preference over Gordon to start), and it happened -- queue the puzzled posts from the cliche, "Gordon? Really ... that's a surprise ... what's next, he's going to select Hanigan? Hodge has a match winning boot and will get selected for his versatility? Hahaha. Ika is such an idiot".

Gordon is not below Tate and Powell in the pecking order. That is more patented horseshit. How do we know? Well ... because he was given his chance above both of them. Is Powell even in the extended squad?

I don't care what website you're getting your information from, whether it's this nuthouse or some other one, you're information is wrong. Gordon is a reliable, quality scrumhalf and he's still relatively young. It's probable that this was a rotation planned back when they first selected the initial training squad. Expect to see him in gold again.

That all said, yes, Tate McDermott is a very exciting prospect. I'm not being some kind of fan-boy for Gordon, I'm just saying he's a well-rounded player. In the long wrong, Tate is the future, but right nowhe is still a bit raw, I fear his pass and lack of a kicking game will be exposed at Test level, but he certainly has the potential to really explode and even win games single-handedly. I hope that he does just as much as everyone else. Tate is more exciting. Gordon is more reliable.
Gordon isn’t sharing bench time with Tate. He’s been dropped.

Don’t get me wrong - I think he’s quality. But he’s not as good as Tate. Also, he’s not consistent. Over the years he’s been very inconsistent. This year he’s finally put a few games together at SR level; albeit for a team on the lower section of the ladder.

Tate can kick. Not sure where you got that. Did Kearnsy say it once? He also tackles like a bastard and scores tries for fun. He’s in the team - soon he’ll start and make that jersey his own.
It will be interesting to see if Gordon hangs around the squad or drifts back to the Shute Shield. My bet is that one or both of those Brumbies’ kids will get in front of him next year.

You can still support him if you stream Shute Shield. 👍
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Farva wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:19 pm
towny wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:54 am
What game impressed you most from DHP this year? Being the form 15, I presume there were many stand-outs, but you only have to give me one.
Bledisloe 3
Hope he plays a blinder. Think he’s a good egg and the right bloke for the job. But..... the form 15 in SRAU was clearly Campbell. Anyone saying otherwise is a lying plum.
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Olo wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:41 pm Banks has been solid under the high ball and his line kicking has been good but he has offered nothing in attack. DHP gets a shot now. I’m not his greatest fan but he has been pretty good at test level to date.
One of Banks or Maddocks needs to take their opportunity. I think it will be Maddocks. He has played at 5/8 so offers himself as a second playmaker and he has a very good turn of speed. It looked as though he has found his spot there at the Tahs.
Hodge should be given a chance too. In DHPs absence this year he looked good for the Rebels at 15.
I thought Banks did enough; however it seems DHP is considered the incumbent and retook his 15 jersey. I wouldn’t read too much into Banks not being there - however, he had his chance and obviously didn’t make it impossible to drop him.

He’ll wear gold again.

Agree on Hodge. Would like him to get more time there, but hard to see how it works.
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towny wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:15 pm
Farva wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:19 pm
towny wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:54 am
What game impressed you most from DHP this year? Being the form 15, I presume there were many stand-outs, but you only have to give me one.
Bledisloe 3
Hope he plays a blinder. Think he’s a good egg and the right bloke for the job. But..... the form 15 in SRAU was clearly Campbell. Anyone saying otherwise is a lying plum.
Nah. Jocks a turnstile mate.
Banks didn’t have a great super rugby season but he could tackle. But Hodge and Maddocks were both better than him.
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Farva wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:49 pm
towny wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 3:15 pm
Farva wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:19 pm
towny wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:54 am
What game impressed you most from DHP this year? Being the form 15, I presume there were many stand-outs, but you only have to give me one.
Bledisloe 3
Hope he plays a blinder. Think he’s a good egg and the right bloke for the job. But..... the form 15 in SRAU was clearly Campbell. Anyone saying otherwise is a lying plum.
Nah. Jocks a turnstile mate.
Banks didn’t have a great super rugby season but he could tackle. But Hodge and Maddocks were both better than him.
Banks was injured so got no prep time, and he eased into the super season. Let's not forget the first 7 rounds of Soup, Banks was clearly the best fullback.

I ultimately still think Maddocks will become more consistent and be our long term 15. He's tall, kicks well, scores tries for fun and can be a second playmaker.

Sleepy Jock is like Damien McKenzie without the playmaking ability.
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JOCs out? Dang.

Was hoping to see him at 12 at some point.
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Might deserve its own thread, but Dan Palmer has opened up about his sexuality in the SMH today...

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-unio ... 569os.html
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Slim 293 wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:19 pm Might deserve its own thread, but Dan Palmer has opened up about his sexuality in the SMH today...

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-unio ... 569os.html
Good on him, I wish him all the best, it's ridiculous that people still have to struggle with that in this day and age. Hopefully we're fast approaching a time when it's a complete non-issue. He's certainly dropped a lot of weight from his playing days.
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I'd echo that.

These days, you'd think a player wouldn't have such an issue, but professional sport is probably one of the most hyper masculine environments there is, so I can understand if people don't feel comfortable coming out.

I'm sure they appreciate people like Poccock who are willing to stand up and support them.

I've heard rumours re a Wallaby, open secret in the squad that he is bi, and he is very highly regarded. No idea if true, but it would show that the new generation of players don't follow the Potgeiter approach.
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Bit harsh on JackPots mate

He shouted out an inappropriate word, in the heat of a game. A word used by all of us in the past, regrettably.

Not sure that makes him homophobic.
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shanky wrote: Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:52 pm Bit harsh on JackPots mate

He shouted out an inappropriate word, in the heat of a game. A word used by all of us in the past, regrettably.

Not sure that makes him homophobic.
I'm not so sure. I've shouted some stuff in the heat of the moment, but I honestly can say that, "faggot" would not be one that's on the tip of my tongue at all. "fuckwit, pussy, dumb c-nt ...", there are plenty of options. Last time I called someone a faggot I was probably about thirty years ago when I was twelve. It seems completely inappropriate now days.

That all said, I also believe we make too big a deal out of being called names these days. I don't see why faggot is outrageously more insulting than being called a dumb f-cking motherf-cker. But still, just saying, it's definitley not one that would be on the tip of my tongue without thinking.
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