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So, who comes in, Simone or Lolesio?
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Olo wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:06 am The protests in America were not dubious at all. The ongoing racial hatred and inequality there is very real.
The first sentance and the second sentace don't necessarily match up.

A bad police officer killed a petty criminal. That police officer was aprehended and will serve justice, presumably a very harsh sentance, made even harsher by his fellow inmates for the his notoriety and the fact he was a cop. Justice is served.

Where then is the justification for going on month-long looting rampages, taking over entire city blocks, defunding the police, invading city halls, all during a global viral pandemic? Pretty f-cking dubious if you ask me. It's also a little bit offensive to history to pretend that society hasn't made great leaps and bounds. That Martin Luther King, etc. made zero difference and we are now living in some uber-racist period in history. That is complete nonsense. We're living in the least racist period in history.

Does that mean "ongoing racial hatred and inequality is not a real thing"? No, it does not. Both that and the riots being dubiously justified can be true at the same time.

Farva wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 9:21 am Yeah. MOG is out of order there, and demonstrates pretty clearly he is off the pace with that.
While I have no issue if the Wallaby’s want to take a knee, even the fact the discussion is being had is great.
Erm ... f-ck off mate. I don't need you to tell me when I'm "in order" thankyou very much.
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Olo wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:16 am So, who comes in, Simone or Lolesio?
Lolesio every day of the week and twice on Sundays for my 2c.
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Naisarani and McInnerney added to the squad apparently
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Olo wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:19 am Naisarani and McInnerney added to the squad apparently
I wonder when Vunivalu's contract kicks in. Wasn't he supposed to go with the Wobs in EOYT?
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Horton out and not injured apparently. He’s a wee bit small I reckon for test rugby.

How does Isi fit in here?
Better than Wilson as an eight?.......no
Better than Samu or Hannigan as a 6?........no
Good in the lineout?........no
Good at turning over the pill?...........maybe
Bocshing it up the middle predictably?...........yes
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wamberal wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:37 am
les@mooloolaba wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 4:59 am
wamberal wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 12:34 am What was your stance on playing South Africa under apartheid restrictions, Les?
Why? What does that have to with the jersey?
I don't know. Maybe you do, though.
If you dont know why ask the question then/
So your trolling for something aren't you. I cant be bothered with politics and opinionated people. :yawn:
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CrazyIslander wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:25 am
Olo wrote: Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:19 am Naisarani and McInnerney added to the squad apparently
I wonder when Vunivalu's contract kicks in. Wasn't he supposed to go with the Wobs in EOYT?
That would be ridiculous. Let’s hope playing rugby is always a prerequisite for selection in the national team.
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Olo wrote: Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:31 pm Jones, you seem to have your head firmly stuck in the sand next to NFJs and those of the other dinosaurs who are trying desperately to retain their grip on Oz rugby.
It will change soon and rugby in Australia will be better for it.
Me?
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Olo wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:54 am Horton out and not injured apparently. He’s a wee bit small I reckon for test rugby.

How does Isi fit in here?
Better than Wilson as an eight?.......no
Better than Samu or Hannigan as a 6?........no
Good in the lineout?........no
Good at turning over the pill?...........maybe
Bocshing it up the middle predictably?...........yes
Naisarani is a beast. I was amazed he was left out to begin with but apparently Rennie wanted him to lose weight. The #8 for me was always between Isi and Wilson. Wilson has stepped up in a big way on the big stage which is awesome but Isi not even in the squad was always weird to me.
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Olo, 6.Jones is alright. He is a good guy.
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kiap wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:12 pm Olo, 6.Jones is alright. He is a good guy.
I’m sure he is. No offence intended.
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Mog The Almighty wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:25 pm
Olo wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:54 am Horton out and not injured apparently. He’s a wee bit small I reckon for test rugby.

How does Isi fit in here?
Better than Wilson as an eight?.......no
Better than Samu or Hannigan as a 6?........no
Good in the lineout?........no
Good at turning over the pill?...........maybe
Bocshing it up the middle predictably?...........yes
Naisarani is a beast. I was amazed he was left out to begin with but apparently Rennie wanted him to lose weight. The #8 for me was always between Isi and Wilson. Wilson has stepped up in a big way on the big stage which is awesome but Isi not even in the squad was always weird to me.
He was fat and unfit according to Rennie
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Zakar wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:02 pm
Mog The Almighty wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:25 pm
Olo wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:54 am Horton out and not injured apparently. He’s a wee bit small I reckon for test rugby.

How does Isi fit in here?
Better than Wilson as an eight?.......no
Better than Samu or Hannigan as a 6?........no
Good in the lineout?........no
Good at turning over the pill?...........maybe
Bocshing it up the middle predictably?...........yes
Naisarani is a beast. I was amazed he was left out to begin with but apparently Rennie wanted him to lose weight. The #8 for me was always between Isi and Wilson. Wilson has stepped up in a big way on the big stage which is awesome but Isi not even in the squad was always weird to me.
He was fat and unfit according to Rennie
Same reason I didn't make the squad.
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Bindi wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:00 pm
Zakar wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:02 pm
Mog The Almighty wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:25 pm
Olo wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:54 am Horton out and not injured apparently. He’s a wee bit small I reckon for test rugby.

How does Isi fit in here?
Better than Wilson as an eight?.......no
Better than Samu or Hannigan as a 6?........no
Good in the lineout?........no
Good at turning over the pill?...........maybe
Bocshing it up the middle predictably?...........yes
Naisarani is a beast. I was amazed he was left out to begin with but apparently Rennie wanted him to lose weight. The #8 for me was always between Isi and Wilson. Wilson has stepped up in a big way on the big stage which is awesome but Isi not even in the squad was always weird to me.
He was fat and unfit according to Rennie
Same reason I didn't make the squad.
Yes, but for Naisarani it was the only reason.
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You mean him spilling the ball at most opportunities and not being able to bust through the defensive line of the Reds in the prelim final did not play a part?
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Bindi wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:00 pm
Zakar wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:02 pm
Mog The Almighty wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:25 pm
Olo wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:54 am Horton out and not injured apparently. He’s a wee bit small I reckon for test rugby.

How does Isi fit in here?
Better than Wilson as an eight?.......no
Better than Samu or Hannigan as a 6?........no
Good in the lineout?........no
Good at turning over the pill?...........maybe
Bocshing it up the middle predictably?...........yes
Naisarani is a beast. I was amazed he was left out to begin with but apparently Rennie wanted him to lose weight. The #8 for me was always between Isi and Wilson. Wilson has stepped up in a big way on the big stage which is awesome but Isi not even in the squad was always weird to me.
He was fat and unfit according to Rennie
Same reason I didn't make the squad.
No. That was back-room politics.
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Olo wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 11:46 pm You mean him spilling the ball at most opportunities and not being able to bust through the defensive line of the Reds in the prelim final did not play a part?
I can't rememeber the exact games, but Isi had one poor game and one average game and the rest were all very good.
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I don’t see him giving us a better presence at the breakdown, the lineout or improving our tackle percentages. He was Ok but not better than Wilson or Samu at 8.
I can see him spelling Wilson at some point, probably against the Argies.
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Olo wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:06 am I don’t see him giving us a better presence at the breakdown, the lineout or improving our tackle percentages. He was Ok but not better than Wilson or Samu at 8.
I can see him spelling Wilson at some point, probably against the Argies.
Samu isn't even in the squad and for my money he's not really an #8 either, he's more of a flanker, and his style is better sutied to seven than six - although I'm well aware he's played the vast majority of his career at six and eight, that's just a comment on his game.

Wilson and Naisarani are the two specialist eights and I expect to see more of Isi going forwards if he can appease Rennie's desire for him to slim down a bit. I also would not at all be surprised to see one of them at six and the other at eight.

I have long been a suporter of Ned Hanigan, in that I think he's hugely under-rated by many posters and the Australian rugby community at large, probably because of the way he looks. But in saying that, I've always seen him as a good option off the bench covering both lock and flank. A starting combination of Wilson and Naisarani at eight and six would be a potent force both bashing at the line as well as providing solid resistance in defence. Watch this space.
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Samu is not in the squad? I saw him training with them yesterday.
I have no problem with Ned starting at 6 again but Samu is a much better bench option than Naisarani.
Where does Isi fit?
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Article in SMH that AAA might start and share time with TT. I thought that Aussie front row bench was good in Auckland.

Critical is 10-12.

Bold call would be to shift JOC out to 12. I think they would be better placed have a ball playing 12 in the squad (like Stewart) rather than bashers. Tough ask but think they should throw the young 10 Noah in.
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JOC must stay at 10 for stability. I'd try Petaia/Paisami combo.
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Mog The Almighty wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:18 am Samu isn't even in the squad and for my money he's not really an #8 either

Yes he is... and yes he is.
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CrazyIslander wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:54 am JOC must stay at 10 for stability. I'd try Petaia/Paisami combo.
So, no inside centre?
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Slim 293 wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:59 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:18 am Samu isn't even in the squad and for my money he's not really an #8 either

Yes he is... and yes he is.
He's not in the matchday squad, I meant. The second thing is a matter of opinion, and mine is better than yours. Obviously he's well capable of playing eight at a high level, but Naisarani and Wilson are both more pure, conventional eights. Samu is a utility back-rower.
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Mog The Almighty wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:13 am
Slim 293 wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:59 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:18 am Samu isn't even in the squad and for my money he's not really an #8 either

Yes he is... and yes he is.
He's not in the matchday squad, I meant. The second thing is a matter of opinion, and mine is better than yours. Obviously he's well capable of playing eight at a high level, but Naisarani and Wilson are both more pure, conventional eights. Samu is a utility back-rower.
The match day squad hasn't been named yet...

Samu plays like a no 8, while mostly playing at no 8.
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kiwigreg369 wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:25 am Article in SMH that AAA might start and share time with TT. I thought that Aussie front row bench was good in Auckland.

Critical is 10-12.

Bold call would be to shift JOC out to 12. I think they would be better placed have a ball playing 12 in the squad (like Stewart) rather than bashers. Tough ask but think they should throw the young 10 Noah in.
I think the brave call is like-for-like, so Lolosio.

Backs are far less interesting selectons to me than forwards, at-least past 12, but I'd like and expect to see something along these lines:

10. JOC
12. Lolosio
13. Paisami / Petia

Wings: Koriebete / Hodge / Dagaunu / Whatever

15. DHP
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Slim 293 wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:16 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:13 am
Slim 293 wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:59 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:18 am Samu isn't even in the squad and for my money he's not really an #8 either

Yes he is... and yes he is.
He's not in the matchday squad, I meant. The second thing is a matter of opinion, and mine is better than yours. Obviously he's well capable of playing eight at a high level, but Naisarani and Wilson are both more pure, conventional eights. Samu is a utility back-rower.
The match day squad hasn't been named yet...

Samu plays like a no 8, while mostly playing at no 8.
Yes well, that's you're opinion and you don't really know what you're talking about.
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Mog The Almighty wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:17 am
Slim 293 wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:16 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:13 am
Slim 293 wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:59 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:18 am Samu isn't even in the squad and for my money he's not really an #8 either

Yes he is... and yes he is.
He's not in the matchday squad, I meant. The second thing is a matter of opinion, and mine is better than yours. Obviously he's well capable of playing eight at a high level, but Naisarani and Wilson are both more pure, conventional eights. Samu is a utility back-rower.
The match day squad hasn't been named yet...

Samu plays like a no 8, while mostly playing at no 8.
Yes well, that's you're opinion and you don't really know what you're talking about.
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Slim 293 wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:05 am
CrazyIslander wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:54 am JOC must stay at 10 for stability. I'd try Petaia/Paisami combo.
So, no inside centre?
Why not Petaia? He's a bosher with an outside break.
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Simone to 12 and Lolesio on the pine covering 10-12 is the least disruptive but I wouldn’t be surprised to see Paisami start at 12 now they have had 2 weeks to bed in the new centre partnership.
Simone and Petaia are a much bigger 12/13 than Toomua and Paisami.
Could go either way. Rennie doesn’t give much away.
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CrazyIslander wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:23 am Why not Petaia?

Probably for the same reason we don't play Michael Hooper at inside centre...
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MungoMan wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:03 am
Bindi wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:00 pm
Zakar wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:02 pm
Mog The Almighty wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:25 pm
Olo wrote: Mon Oct 26, 2020 2:54 am Horton out and not injured apparently. He’s a wee bit small I reckon for test rugby.

How does Isi fit in here?
Better than Wilson as an eight?.......no
Better than Samu or Hannigan as a 6?........no
Good in the lineout?........no
Good at turning over the pill?...........maybe
Bocshing it up the middle predictably?...........yes
Naisarani is a beast. I was amazed he was left out to begin with but apparently Rennie wanted him to lose weight. The #8 for me was always between Isi and Wilson. Wilson has stepped up in a big way on the big stage which is awesome but Isi not even in the squad was always weird to me.
He was fat and unfit according to Rennie
Same reason I didn't make the squad.
No. That was back-room politics.
I've long suspected that is the case. I blame NSW.
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Slim 293 wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:36 am
CrazyIslander wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:23 am Why not Petaia?

Probably for the same reason we don't play Michael Hooper at inside centre...
Petaia is a natural midfielder, Hooper isnt.
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CrazyIslander wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:50 am
Slim 293 wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:36 am
CrazyIslander wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:23 am Why not Petaia?

Probably for the same reason we don't play Michael Hooper at inside centre...
Petaia is a natural midfielder, Hooper isnt.
Neither of them play inside centre...

Anyways, Petaia will likely return to 13, and Simone a direct swap for Toomua.

Personally, I can't wait for Lolesio to get a run.
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Mog The Almighty wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:13 am
Slim 293 wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:59 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:18 am Samu isn't even in the squad and for my money he's not really an #8 either

Yes he is... and yes he is.
He's not in the matchday squad, I meant. The second thing is a matter of opinion, and mine is better than yours. Obviously he's well capable of playing eight at a high level, but Naisarani and Wilson are both more pure, conventional eights. Samu is a utility back-rower.
When did you become a pompous arse? I disliked you less when you were a clueless try-hard. Now it seems you want us to think you know the game. You are a buffoon. Know your place ffs.
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towny wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:15 pm
Mog The Almighty wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:13 am
Slim 293 wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:59 am
Mog The Almighty wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 7:18 am Samu isn't even in the squad and for my money he's not really an #8 either

Yes he is... and yes he is.
He's not in the matchday squad, I meant. The second thing is a matter of opinion, and mine is better than yours. Obviously he's well capable of playing eight at a high level, but Naisarani and Wilson are both more pure, conventional eights. Samu is a utility back-rower.
When did you become a pompous arse? I disliked you less when you were a clueless try-hard. Now it seems you want us to think you know the game. You are a buffoon. Know your place ffs.
:lol: That's uneccessarily insulting towny. I suppose you are under the mistaken impression that I give a f-ck what you think.

How many picks did you get right anyway? 3? Didn't you have Hooper on the bench? Lay off the Bundys brother. Youre in no position to be telling anyone else to pull their head in.
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
Crap. Mog’s gone rogue.
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Simone will start at 12.
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