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Who is calling for Campbell? Do they even watch rugby?Zakar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:52 amCampbell had two good games, and even in these he couldn't tackle 3rd grade fractions.
Shit though, maybe you're a better judge of Dave Rennie and Sleepy Jock is better than the 4 fullbacks actually picked.
It would have been JOC starting if fit with Lolesio on the pine. Reece Hodge is not a test 5/8 and I’m sure he would agree. We just got caught with our pants down due to a late injury to the starting fly half.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:52 amDude I hate to say it, but I've been saying this for months. His strengths are his cannon-ball boot and that he can fill almost any position in the backline, including fly-half. It's a big feather in his cap. It's not ideal obv., but he could slot in there in a pinch after a string of injuries. Kind of like Valetini could do in the second row if we were desperate.
I wonder what the logic is behind putting Thor on the bench? We all know he's capable of eighty and he has been probably our best forward if not best player on the park in every game so far. I guess it's some strategic move.
I expect Gordon is just being rotated with Tate, as he's done nothing to deserve being dropped, which is fair enough. Both of them deserve game time and Gordon got two games, it's Tate's turn. I hope he does well.
You said he was the best scrummager in Australia, prematurely, at a time when he clearly wasn’t even the best scrummaging tight head in his own team..Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:01 amSlim 293 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:29 amMog The Almighty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:27 amAbsolute nonsense.Slim 293 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:18 amMog The Almighty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:12 am
Yeah ... wait a minute here ... do you actually think he's been "dropped"?
I mean I don't know 100% for sure, you might be right, weirder things have happened than you being right about rugby.
It is true that he was a marked man in the second test ... and rightly so too, he destroyed in the first test ... but he was still good, despite all the extra attention (and that extra attention means less attention elsewhere, it evens out, even if the player doesn't stand out as much). I can almost guarantee that Rennie has identified some problem in our, or some strength in their, second half, and he's on the bench to come on a rampage all over everyone when they're tired. I'm 99% sure it's a strategic move. It would seem extremely odd and grossly unfair if it were performance based. He's clearly been one of our best players, if not the best over the past two games.
Nah, he’s been replaced because aside from the scrum he was f**king useless, and at one point kicked the ball back to the AB’s so they could score...
AAA will get more work done around the ground and then hopefully Tupou can provide some impact off the bench against tiring players.
So, you didn’t watch the game?
Cool... stick to those YouTube highlights.That's what you were saying when I told you he was the best scrummager in Australia. I think your exact words were, "he's the worst scrummaging prop in Australia. Stick to those YouTube highlights".
Thor is a beast, and if he's on the bench, it's for a good reason, and that reason is not because he's shit.
I'm pretty sure it would have been 10. JOC 12. Lolo.Olo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:07 amIt would have been JOC starting if fit with Lolesio on the pine. Reece Hodge is not a test 5/8 and I’m sure he would agree. We just got caught with our pants down due to a late injury to the starting fly half.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:52 am
I wonder what the logic is behind putting Thor on the bench? We all know he's capable of eighty and he has been probably our best forward if not best player on the park in every game so far. I guess it's some strategic move.
I expect Gordon is just being rotated with Tate, as he's done nothing to deserve being dropped, which is fair enough. Both of them deserve game time and Gordon got two games, it's Tate's turn. I hope he does well.
Gordon is a hack.
Are you drunk? Why would you think Petaia isn’t first picked in this team? Do you watch the games or just get Kearns’ audio?Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:48 am Geezus. JOC out now too. That's a kick in the guts.
I guess we're looking at:
10. Lolosio
12. Simone
13. Paisami / Petia
11-14. Who cares
15. DHP
edit: just saw the team sheet on the prev. page.
Gordon played two games but didn’t prove to Rennie he was worthy of a third game.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:39 amI'm pretty sure it would have been 10. JOC 12. Lolo.Olo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:07 amIt would have been JOC starting if fit with Lolesio on the pine. Reece Hodge is not a test 5/8 and I’m sure he would agree. We just got caught with our pants down due to a late injury to the starting fly half.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:52 am
I wonder what the logic is behind putting Thor on the bench? We all know he's capable of eighty and he has been probably our best forward if not best player on the park in every game so far. I guess it's some strategic move.
I expect Gordon is just being rotated with Tate, as he's done nothing to deserve being dropped, which is fair enough. Both of them deserve game time and Gordon got two games, it's Tate's turn. I hope he does well.
Gordon is a hack.
R.e. Gordon you're just repeating what some of the other posters are saying, but you're picking the wromg ones to parrot. You should have been around long enough to know that when there's a majority opinion voiced on PR led by that clique you can be almost certain the exact opposite is true.They said the same about Tupou before and more recently Hanigan and Hodge. They have no idea what they're even looking at. I doubt most have them have even played a game since high school.
Gordon is an excellent scrum half and you can be sure to see him again before this International season is done. I'm quite confident its just a planned rotation. We have a number of options and you can't have three scrum halves in a match squad. Tate deserves a chance and Rennie seems sold on White.
P.S. yes of course Hodge is not a specialist fly half. But with multiple unfortunate injuries, he can backup that position and multiple others off the bench. Thats one of his main strengths, he's a bench selection that can plug multiple gaps to a serviceable level that could otherwise be a disaster given a bad run of injuries. That and a howitzer for a right foot.
He’s a gun. I don’t think he’s ready for test rugby, but he was clearly the form 15 in SRA. I bet he’ll wear gold in 2021.Farva wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:06 amWho is calling for Campbell? Do they even watch rugby?Zakar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:52 amCampbell had two good games, and even in these he couldn't tackle 3rd grade fractions.
Shit though, maybe you're a better judge of Dave Rennie and Sleepy Jock is better than the 4 fullbacks actually picked.
I reckon he would struggle to tackle even me, let alone someone who isnt slow or agile.
4 scrum halves better than Tate? Interesting.FairWeather_Aussie wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:00 am The Brumbies alone have 4 scrum halves that are better than Gordan:
White - Obviously
Powell - Quite underrated. Controls the game really well and was a strong part of the Brumbies success this year.
Lonergan - Better than Powell and will be a Wallaby one day
Fines - Didn’t embarrass himself at all when he played due to injuries. Surprisingly good.
It's simple towny. There's one old stalwart (White) and two relatively new up-and-comers (Gordon and Tate). You can't have three scrumhalfs in a match-day squad. You figure it out.towny wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:13 amGordon played two games but didn’t prove to Rennie he was worthy of a third game.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:39 amI'm pretty sure it would have been 10. JOC 12. Lolo.Olo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:07 amIt would have been JOC starting if fit with Lolesio on the pine. Reece Hodge is not a test 5/8 and I’m sure he would agree. We just got caught with our pants down due to a late injury to the starting fly half.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:52 am
I wonder what the logic is behind putting Thor on the bench? We all know he's capable of eighty and he has been probably our best forward if not best player on the park in every game so far. I guess it's some strategic move.
I expect Gordon is just being rotated with Tate, as he's done nothing to deserve being dropped, which is fair enough. Both of them deserve game time and Gordon got two games, it's Tate's turn. I hope he does well.
Gordon is a hack.
R.e. Gordon you're just repeating what some of the other posters are saying, but you're picking the wromg ones to parrot. You should have been around long enough to know that when there's a majority opinion voiced on PR led by that clique you can be almost certain the exact opposite is true.They said the same about Tupou before and more recently Hanigan and Hodge. They have no idea what they're even looking at. I doubt most have them have even played a game since high school.
Gordon is an excellent scrum half and you can be sure to see him again before this International season is done. I'm quite confident its just a planned rotation. We have a number of options and you can't have three scrum halves in a match squad. Tate deserves a chance and Rennie seems sold on White.
P.S. yes of course Hodge is not a specialist fly half. But with multiple unfortunate injuries, he can backup that position and multiple others off the bench. Thats one of his main strengths, he's a bench selection that can plug multiple gaps to a serviceable level that could otherwise be a disaster given a bad run of injuries. That and a howitzer for a right foot.
So Rennie has gone with Tate, who’ll take to test rugby like a duck to water. You can spend the next few years bitching about his pass as he dominates the gold ‘9’ jersey.
Planned rotation? Gordon has played 40 minutes of rugby in 2 months. You’re saying he was due for a rest? Who else is being rotated?
Lolesio is there as a 10, no question about it. Sure, he could probably slip into 12 at a pinch to close out a game but his natural position is 5/8 and we all see it, including Rennie. No-one here or in the press or on any other rugby site has even mentioned the possibility of him playing 12 at this level. It appears to be unique to you.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:39 amI'm pretty sure it would have been 10. JOC 12. Lolo.Olo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:07 amIt would have been JOC starting if fit with Lolesio on the pine. Reece Hodge is not a test 5/8 and I’m sure he would agree. We just got caught with our pants down due to a late injury to the starting fly half.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:52 am
I wonder what the logic is behind putting Thor on the bench? We all know he's capable of eighty and he has been probably our best forward if not best player on the park in every game so far. I guess it's some strategic move.
I expect Gordon is just being rotated with Tate, as he's done nothing to deserve being dropped, which is fair enough. Both of them deserve game time and Gordon got two games, it's Tate's turn. I hope he does well.
Gordon is a hack.
R.e. Gordon you're just repeating what some of the other posters are saying, but you're picking the wromg ones to parrot. You should have been around long enough to know that when there's a majority opinion voiced on PR led by that clique you can be almost certain the exact opposite is true.They said the same about Tupou before and more recently Hanigan and Hodge. They have no idea what they're even looking at. I doubt most have them have even played a game since high school.
Gordon is an excellent scrum half and you can be sure to see him again before this International season is done. I'm quite confident its just a planned rotation. We have a number of options and you can't have three scrum halves in a match squad. Tate deserves a chance and Rennie seems sold on White.
P.S. yes of course Hodge is not a specialist fly half. But with multiple unfortunate injuries, he can backup that position and multiple others off the bench. Thats one of his main strengths, he's a bench selection that can plug multiple gaps to a serviceable level that could otherwise be a disaster given a bad run of injuries. That and a howitzer for a right foot.
What other positions is Rennie rotating? Is this policy specifically for scrumhalves to ensure they all get a game, regardless of form?Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:35 amIt's simple towny. There's one old stalwart (White) and two relatively new up-and-comers (Gordon and Tate). You can't have three scrumhalfs in a match-day squad. You figure it out.towny wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:13 amGordon played two games but didn’t prove to Rennie he was worthy of a third game.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:39 amI'm pretty sure it would have been 10. JOC 12. Lolo.Olo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:07 amIt would have been JOC starting if fit with Lolesio on the pine. Reece Hodge is not a test 5/8 and I’m sure he would agree. We just got caught with our pants down due to a late injury to the starting fly half.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:52 am
I wonder what the logic is behind putting Thor on the bench? We all know he's capable of eighty and he has been probably our best forward if not best player on the park in every game so far. I guess it's some strategic move.
I expect Gordon is just being rotated with Tate, as he's done nothing to deserve being dropped, which is fair enough. Both of them deserve game time and Gordon got two games, it's Tate's turn. I hope he does well.
Gordon is a hack.
R.e. Gordon you're just repeating what some of the other posters are saying, but you're picking the wromg ones to parrot. You should have been around long enough to know that when there's a majority opinion voiced on PR led by that clique you can be almost certain the exact opposite is true.They said the same about Tupou before and more recently Hanigan and Hodge. They have no idea what they're even looking at. I doubt most have them have even played a game since high school.
Gordon is an excellent scrum half and you can be sure to see him again before this International season is done. I'm quite confident its just a planned rotation. We have a number of options and you can't have three scrum halves in a match squad. Tate deserves a chance and Rennie seems sold on White.
P.S. yes of course Hodge is not a specialist fly half. But with multiple unfortunate injuries, he can backup that position and multiple others off the bench. Thats one of his main strengths, he's a bench selection that can plug multiple gaps to a serviceable level that could otherwise be a disaster given a bad run of injuries. That and a howitzer for a right foot.
So Rennie has gone with Tate, who’ll take to test rugby like a duck to water. You can spend the next few years bitching about his pass as he dominates the gold ‘9’ jersey.
Planned rotation? Gordon has played 40 minutes of rugby in 2 months. You’re saying he was due for a rest? Who else is being rotated?
Very fine post Olo.Olo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:44 amLolesio is there as a 10, no question about it. Sure, he could probably slip into 12 at a pinch to close out a game but his natural position is 5/8 and we all see it, including Rennie. No-one here or in the press or on any other rugby site has even mentioned the possibility of him playing 12 at this level. It appears to be unique to you.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:39 amI'm pretty sure it would have been 10. JOC 12. Lolo.Olo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:07 amIt would have been JOC starting if fit with Lolesio on the pine. Reece Hodge is not a test 5/8 and I’m sure he would agree. We just got caught with our pants down due to a late injury to the starting fly half.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:52 am
I wonder what the logic is behind putting Thor on the bench? We all know he's capable of eighty and he has been probably our best forward if not best player on the park in every game so far. I guess it's some strategic move.
I expect Gordon is just being rotated with Tate, as he's done nothing to deserve being dropped, which is fair enough. Both of them deserve game time and Gordon got two games, it's Tate's turn. I hope he does well.
Gordon is a hack.
R.e. Gordon you're just repeating what some of the other posters are saying, but you're picking the wromg ones to parrot. You should have been around long enough to know that when there's a majority opinion voiced on PR led by that clique you can be almost certain the exact opposite is true.They said the same about Tupou before and more recently Hanigan and Hodge. They have no idea what they're even looking at. I doubt most have them have even played a game since high school.
Gordon is an excellent scrum half and you can be sure to see him again before this International season is done. I'm quite confident its just a planned rotation. We have a number of options and you can't have three scrum halves in a match squad. Tate deserves a chance and Rennie seems sold on White.
P.S. yes of course Hodge is not a specialist fly half. But with multiple unfortunate injuries, he can backup that position and multiple others off the bench. Thats one of his main strengths, he's a bench selection that can plug multiple gaps to a serviceable level that could otherwise be a disaster given a bad run of injuries. That and a howitzer for a right foot.
Gordon is a decent Soup scrum half. He’s got a good boot, some speed and is not bad running with the ball. Not everyone is cut out for test footy and he strikes me as one of those. Joe Powell has gone OK in test rugby, White is better in tests than in the Soup and Tate looks like the sky could be the limit. Gordon is some way below these 3 in the pecking order.
Yes, I have been around here a long time and know to take everything with a grain of salt. But I’m not talking just about this site. The above is pretty much what is being said across all rugby sites, media and by experts all over the planet. The reason is because its pretty obvious to anyone who has a clue about rugby. I’m not parroting anyone. I just agree with all of those people in the know.
Bullshit.Olo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:44 amLolesio is there as a 10, no question about it. Sure, he could probably slip into 12 at a pinch to close out a game but his natural position is 5/8 and we all see it, including Rennie. No-one here or in the press or on any other rugby site has even mentioned the possibility of him playing 12 at this level. It appears to be unique to you.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:39 amI'm pretty sure it would have been 10. JOC 12. Lolo.Olo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:07 amIt would have been JOC starting if fit with Lolesio on the pine. Reece Hodge is not a test 5/8 and I’m sure he would agree. We just got caught with our pants down due to a late injury to the starting fly half.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:52 am
I wonder what the logic is behind putting Thor on the bench? We all know he's capable of eighty and he has been probably our best forward if not best player on the park in every game so far. I guess it's some strategic move.
I expect Gordon is just being rotated with Tate, as he's done nothing to deserve being dropped, which is fair enough. Both of them deserve game time and Gordon got two games, it's Tate's turn. I hope he does well.
Gordon is a hack.
R.e. Gordon you're just repeating what some of the other posters are saying, but you're picking the wromg ones to parrot. You should have been around long enough to know that when there's a majority opinion voiced on PR led by that clique you can be almost certain the exact opposite is true.They said the same about Tupou before and more recently Hanigan and Hodge. They have no idea what they're even looking at. I doubt most have them have even played a game since high school.
Gordon is an excellent scrum half and you can be sure to see him again before this International season is done. I'm quite confident its just a planned rotation. We have a number of options and you can't have three scrum halves in a match squad. Tate deserves a chance and Rennie seems sold on White.
P.S. yes of course Hodge is not a specialist fly half. But with multiple unfortunate injuries, he can backup that position and multiple others off the bench. Thats one of his main strengths, he's a bench selection that can plug multiple gaps to a serviceable level that could otherwise be a disaster given a bad run of injuries. That and a howitzer for a right foot.
Gordon is a decent Soup scrum half. He’s got a good boot, some speed and is not bad running with the ball. Not everyone is cut out for test footy and he strikes me as one of those. Joe Powell has gone OK in test rugby, White is better in tests than in the Soup and Tate looks like the sky could be the limit. Gordon is some way below these 3 in the pecking order.
Yes, I have been around here a long time and know to take everything with a grain of salt. But I’m not talking just about this site. The above is pretty much what is being said across all rugby sites, media and by experts all over the planet. The reason is because its pretty obvious to anyone who has a clue about rugby. I’m not parroting anyone. I just agree with all of those people in the know.
You missed a word.towny wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:25 amHe’s a gun. I don’t think he’s ready for test rugby, but he was clearly the fourth form 15 in SRA. I bet he’ll wear gold in 2021.Farva wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:06 amWho is calling for Campbell? Do they even watch rugby?
I reckon he would struggle to tackle even me, let alone someone who isnt slow or agile.
Have to correct you, Farva. Towny, didn't miss a word, he put in a superfluous word - there should be no 'fourth' in there.Farva wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 11:15 amYou missed a word.towny wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:25 amHe’s a gun. I don’t think he’s ready for test rugby, but he was clearly the fourth form 15 in SRA. I bet he’ll wear gold in 2021.Farva wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:06 amWho is calling for Campbell? Do they even watch rugby?
I reckon he would struggle to tackle even me, let alone someone who isnt slow or agile.
What game impressed you most from DHP this year? Being the form 15, I presume there were many stand-outs, but you only have to give me one.
Do you think it's possible that a player could still be the best selection for a team even if they have not amassed a highlight reel of individual stand-out moments in the season?
Just read this article...Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:52 amBullshit.Olo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:44 amLolesio is there as a 10, no question about it. Sure, he could probably slip into 12 at a pinch to close out a game but his natural position is 5/8 and we all see it, including Rennie. No-one here or in the press or on any other rugby site has even mentioned the possibility of him playing 12 at this level. It appears to be unique to you.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:39 amI'm pretty sure it would have been 10. JOC 12. Lolo.Olo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:07 amIt would have been JOC starting if fit with Lolesio on the pine. Reece Hodge is not a test 5/8 and I’m sure he would agree. We just got caught with our pants down due to a late injury to the starting fly half.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:52 am
I wonder what the logic is behind putting Thor on the bench? We all know he's capable of eighty and he has been probably our best forward if not best player on the park in every game so far. I guess it's some strategic move.
I expect Gordon is just being rotated with Tate, as he's done nothing to deserve being dropped, which is fair enough. Both of them deserve game time and Gordon got two games, it's Tate's turn. I hope he does well.
Gordon is a hack.
R.e. Gordon you're just repeating what some of the other posters are saying, but you're picking the wromg ones to parrot. You should have been around long enough to know that when there's a majority opinion voiced on PR led by that clique you can be almost certain the exact opposite is true.They said the same about Tupou before and more recently Hanigan and Hodge. They have no idea what they're even looking at. I doubt most have them have even played a game since high school.
Gordon is an excellent scrum half and you can be sure to see him again before this International season is done. I'm quite confident its just a planned rotation. We have a number of options and you can't have three scrum halves in a match squad. Tate deserves a chance and Rennie seems sold on White.
P.S. yes of course Hodge is not a specialist fly half. But with multiple unfortunate injuries, he can backup that position and multiple others off the bench. Thats one of his main strengths, he's a bench selection that can plug multiple gaps to a serviceable level that could otherwise be a disaster given a bad run of injuries. That and a howitzer for a right foot.
Gordon is a decent Soup scrum half. He’s got a good boot, some speed and is not bad running with the ball. Not everyone is cut out for test footy and he strikes me as one of those. Joe Powell has gone OK in test rugby, White is better in tests than in the Soup and Tate looks like the sky could be the limit. Gordon is some way below these 3 in the pecking order.
Yes, I have been around here a long time and know to take everything with a grain of salt. But I’m not talking just about this site. The above is pretty much what is being said across all rugby sites, media and by experts all over the planet. The reason is because its pretty obvious to anyone who has a clue about rugby. I’m not parroting anyone. I just agree with all of those people in the know.
So you're going to stick with this opinion that it's "pretty obvious to anyone who has a clue about rugby" that, I quote, "Gordon is a hack". Really? This has become obvious news to "everyone" literally a day after it's been revealed he's not in the next squad? Or was it obvious to everyone but Rennie only just managed to figure it out now? Always the last to the party that bloke. He should have been getting his information from anonymous Planet Rugby opinions because y'know, "everyone knew". You're talking horseshit my friend.
The fact is that it was fairly obvious to me he would be in the squad, sharing bench-time with Tate, with White at the helm a f-cking months ago. And I posted almost exactly that (I actually predicted Tate would get preference over Gordon to start), and it happened -- queue the puzzled posts from the cliche, "Gordon? Really ... that's a surprise ... what's next, he's going to select Hanigan? Hodge has a match winning boot and will get selected for his versatility? Hahaha. Ika is such an idiot".
Gordon is not below Tate and Powell in the pecking order. That is more patented horseshit. How do we know? Well ... because he was given his chance above both of them. Is Powell even in the extended squad?
I don't care what website you're getting your information from, whether it's this nuthouse or some other one, you're information is wrong. Gordon is a reliable, quality scrumhalf and he's still relatively young. It's probable that this was a rotation planned back when they first selected the initial training squad. Expect to see him in gold again.
That all said, yes, Tate McDermott is a very exciting prospect. I'm not being some kind of fan-boy for Gordon, I'm just saying he's a well-rounded player. In the long wrong, Tate is the future, but right nowhe is still a bit raw, I fear his pass and lack of a kicking game will be exposed at Test level, but he certainly has the potential to really explode and even win games single-handedly. I hope that he does just as much as everyone else. Tate is more exciting. Gordon is more reliable.
- rugby.com.autheir selections did raise some eyebrows given the brief cameo of Liam Wright and the solid performances of Jake Gordon in the opening two Tests.
- Dave Rennie.“I think Jake Gordon’s been really strong and probably unlucky (to be dropped); we were always keen to give some of our young men a crack."
It's not even the opinion of the official rugby site or the f-cking coach. It's the opinion of a few big mouths on this forum, that's all. Don't confuse any of the PR clique nutters as "experts" in anything.Gordon isn’t sharing bench time with Tate. He’s been dropped.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:52 amBullshit.Olo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:44 amLolesio is there as a 10, no question about it. Sure, he could probably slip into 12 at a pinch to close out a game but his natural position is 5/8 and we all see it, including Rennie. No-one here or in the press or on any other rugby site has even mentioned the possibility of him playing 12 at this level. It appears to be unique to you.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:39 amI'm pretty sure it would have been 10. JOC 12. Lolo.Olo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:07 amIt would have been JOC starting if fit with Lolesio on the pine. Reece Hodge is not a test 5/8 and I’m sure he would agree. We just got caught with our pants down due to a late injury to the starting fly half.Mog The Almighty wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:52 am
I wonder what the logic is behind putting Thor on the bench? We all know he's capable of eighty and he has been probably our best forward if not best player on the park in every game so far. I guess it's some strategic move.
I expect Gordon is just being rotated with Tate, as he's done nothing to deserve being dropped, which is fair enough. Both of them deserve game time and Gordon got two games, it's Tate's turn. I hope he does well.
Gordon is a hack.
R.e. Gordon you're just repeating what some of the other posters are saying, but you're picking the wromg ones to parrot. You should have been around long enough to know that when there's a majority opinion voiced on PR led by that clique you can be almost certain the exact opposite is true.They said the same about Tupou before and more recently Hanigan and Hodge. They have no idea what they're even looking at. I doubt most have them have even played a game since high school.
Gordon is an excellent scrum half and you can be sure to see him again before this International season is done. I'm quite confident its just a planned rotation. We have a number of options and you can't have three scrum halves in a match squad. Tate deserves a chance and Rennie seems sold on White.
P.S. yes of course Hodge is not a specialist fly half. But with multiple unfortunate injuries, he can backup that position and multiple others off the bench. Thats one of his main strengths, he's a bench selection that can plug multiple gaps to a serviceable level that could otherwise be a disaster given a bad run of injuries. That and a howitzer for a right foot.
Gordon is a decent Soup scrum half. He’s got a good boot, some speed and is not bad running with the ball. Not everyone is cut out for test footy and he strikes me as one of those. Joe Powell has gone OK in test rugby, White is better in tests than in the Soup and Tate looks like the sky could be the limit. Gordon is some way below these 3 in the pecking order.
Yes, I have been around here a long time and know to take everything with a grain of salt. But I’m not talking just about this site. The above is pretty much what is being said across all rugby sites, media and by experts all over the planet. The reason is because its pretty obvious to anyone who has a clue about rugby. I’m not parroting anyone. I just agree with all of those people in the know.
So you're going to stick with this opinion that it's "pretty obvious to anyone who has a clue about rugby" that, I quote, "Gordon is a hack". Really? This has become obvious news to "everyone" literally a day after it's been revealed he's not in the next squad? Or was it obvious to everyone but Rennie only just managed to figure it out now? Always the last to the party that bloke. He should have been getting his information from anonymous Planet Rugby opinions because y'know, "everyone knew". You're talking horseshit my friend.
The fact is that it was fairly obvious to me he would be in the squad, sharing bench-time with Tate, with White at the helm a f-cking months ago. And I posted almost exactly that (I actually predicted Tate would get preference over Gordon to start), and it happened -- queue the puzzled posts from the cliche, "Gordon? Really ... that's a surprise ... what's next, he's going to select Hanigan? Hodge has a match winning boot and will get selected for his versatility? Hahaha. Ika is such an idiot".
Gordon is not below Tate and Powell in the pecking order. That is more patented horseshit. How do we know? Well ... because he was given his chance above both of them. Is Powell even in the extended squad?
I don't care what website you're getting your information from, whether it's this nuthouse or some other one, you're information is wrong. Gordon is a reliable, quality scrumhalf and he's still relatively young. It's probable that this was a rotation planned back when they first selected the initial training squad. Expect to see him in gold again.
That all said, yes, Tate McDermott is a very exciting prospect. I'm not being some kind of fan-boy for Gordon, I'm just saying he's a well-rounded player. In the long wrong, Tate is the future, but right nowhe is still a bit raw, I fear his pass and lack of a kicking game will be exposed at Test level, but he certainly has the potential to really explode and even win games single-handedly. I hope that he does just as much as everyone else. Tate is more exciting. Gordon is more reliable.
Hope he plays a blinder. Think he’s a good egg and the right bloke for the job. But..... the form 15 in SRAU was clearly Campbell. Anyone saying otherwise is a lying plum.
I thought Banks did enough; however it seems DHP is considered the incumbent and retook his 15 jersey. I wouldn’t read too much into Banks not being there - however, he had his chance and obviously didn’t make it impossible to drop him.Olo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 12:41 pm Banks has been solid under the high ball and his line kicking has been good but he has offered nothing in attack. DHP gets a shot now. I’m not his greatest fan but he has been pretty good at test level to date.
One of Banks or Maddocks needs to take their opportunity. I think it will be Maddocks. He has played at 5/8 so offers himself as a second playmaker and he has a very good turn of speed. It looked as though he has found his spot there at the Tahs.
Hodge should be given a chance too. In DHPs absence this year he looked good for the Rebels at 15.
Nah. Jocks a turnstile mate.
Banks was injured so got no prep time, and he eased into the super season. Let's not forget the first 7 rounds of Soup, Banks was clearly the best fullback.Farva wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:49 pmNah. Jocks a turnstile mate.
Banks didn’t have a great super rugby season but he could tackle. But Hodge and Maddocks were both better than him.
Good on him, I wish him all the best, it's ridiculous that people still have to struggle with that in this day and age. Hopefully we're fast approaching a time when it's a complete non-issue. He's certainly dropped a lot of weight from his playing days.Slim 293 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 29, 2020 9:19 pm Might deserve its own thread, but Dan Palmer has opened up about his sexuality in the SMH today...
https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-unio ... 569os.html
I'm not so sure. I've shouted some stuff in the heat of the moment, but I honestly can say that, "faggot" would not be one that's on the tip of my tongue at all. "fuckwit, pussy, dumb c-nt ...", there are plenty of options. Last time I called someone a faggot I was probably about thirty years ago when I was twelve. It seems completely inappropriate now days.