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Re: Wallabies 2020 thread

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:54 pm
by Olo
And of course Philip will be back soon enough

Re: Wallabies 2020 thread

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:26 pm
by shanky
OK fellas, what do we think about Jack Dempsey going to Glasgow at season’s end?


https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-unio ... 572ic.html

At this best, he was devastating metre eater, but his best was a little short lived and there’s been a fair few injuries.
He was coming good again last season but not enough to get back into national contention, especially with Harry Wilson getting up to speed.

State loyalties aside, we need depth at national level.

Glasgow are getting an excellent player. Go well Jack.

Re: Wallabies 2020 thread

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:13 pm
by Zakar
I think he saw the writing on the wall. Maybe going to Glasgow will add some steel to his game, but he's not even a certainty for the Tahs this season, who will use him in rotation with Harris and Swinton.

He's still young, might come back. The Wallabies won't be weakened significantly by his leaving.

Re: Wallabies 2020 thread

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:19 pm
by shanky
Zakar wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:13 pm I think he saw the writing on the wall. Maybe going to Glasgow will add some steel to his game, but he's not even a certainty for the Tahs this season, who will use him in rotation with Harris and Swinton.

He's still young, might come back. The Wallabies won't be weakened significantly by his leaving.
I agree with most of that, but say he needed 'steel' is a bit harsh?

Re: Wallabies 2020 thread

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:21 pm
by grievous
shanky wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:26 pm OK fellas, what do we think about Jack Dempsey going to Glasgow at season’s end?


https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-unio ... 572ic.html

At this best, he was devastating metre eater, but his best was a little short lived and there’s been a fair few injuries.
He was coming good again last season but not enough to get back into national contention, especially with Harry Wilson getting up to speed.

State loyalties aside, we need depth at national level.

Glasgow are getting an excellent player. Go well Jack.
I tell you it was great watching him run around for Gordon to get us a GF last year but he should be playing higher regularly, he didnt even get a regular spot in the Tahs last year.
Set him back when he ripped his hammy off the bone a few years back and hasnt seemed to get his best form back.
Tahs can still use him they are turning out to be a team of no names. Lest see the true worth of the Shute Shield as its self proclaimed best Oz club comp it will need to provide a few rookies this year I reckon.
Tough times at Daceyville.

Re: Wallabies 2020 thread

Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:44 pm
by Zakar
shanky wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:19 pm
Zakar wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:13 pm I think he saw the writing on the wall. Maybe going to Glasgow will add some steel to his game, but he's not even a certainty for the Tahs this season, who will use him in rotation with Harris and Swinton.

He's still young, might come back. The Wallabies won't be weakened significantly by his leaving.
I agree with most of that, but say he needed 'steel' is a bit harsh?
I didn't say he needed it, I said Glasgow could add steel.

As in, maybe he has 6 steel and Glasgow will add 2 more.

Re: Wallabies 2020 thread

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:41 am
by kiap
Zakar wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:44 pm
shanky wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:19 pm
Zakar wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:13 pm I think he saw the writing on the wall. Maybe going to Glasgow will add some steel to his game, but he's not even a certainty for the Tahs this season, who will use him in rotation with Harris and Swinton.

He's still young, might come back. The Wallabies won't be weakened significantly by his leaving.
I agree with most of that, but say he needed 'steel' is a bit harsh?
I didn't say he needed it, I said Glasgow could add steel.

As in, maybe he has 6 steel and Glasgow will add 2 more.
Or maybe cold steel. As in, Glasgow will add the cold...

Understandable a guy like Dempsey seeking a taste of OS rugby while it's still an option.

But yeah, the talent drain is an ongoing concern. All we can do is keep working the angles to boost the local game.

Re: Wallabies 2020 thread

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:12 am
by grievous
kiap wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:41 am
Zakar wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:44 pm
shanky wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:19 pm
Zakar wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:13 pm I think he saw the writing on the wall. Maybe going to Glasgow will add some steel to his game, but he's not even a certainty for the Tahs this season, who will use him in rotation with Harris and Swinton.

He's still young, might come back. The Wallabies won't be weakened significantly by his leaving.
I agree with most of that, but say he needed 'steel' is a bit harsh?
I didn't say he needed it, I said Glasgow could add steel.

As in, maybe he has 6 steel and Glasgow will add 2 more.
Or maybe cold steel. As in, Glasgow will add the cold...

Understandable a guy like Dempsey seeking a taste of OS rugby while it's still an option.

But yeah, the talent drain is an ongoing concern. All we can do is keep working the angles to boost the local game.
Or revert to usual poach of league has beens......a little unfair but there is some great talent out there but it needs to be fast tracked through

Re: Wallabies 2020 thread

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:11 am
by shanky
grievous wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:12 am
Or revert to usual poach of league has beens......a little unfair but there is some great talent out there but it needs to be fast tracked through
We may be witnessing a reverse poach in action.

David Wilson's son, one three standout future stars of his age group (another being Suaali), might be on his way back to Union. Or so the rumour mill says...

Re: Wallabies 2020 thread

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:26 am
by grievous
shanky wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:11 am
grievous wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:12 am
Or revert to usual poach of league has beens......a little unfair but there is some great talent out there but it needs to be fast tracked through
We may be witnessing a reverse poach in action.

David Wilson's son, one three standout future stars of his age group (another being Suaali), might be on his way back to Union. Or so the rumour mill says...
Thats puzzling rugby wages have to be as low as they have ever been especially for junior to mid range pro players.
Maybe they just worked out league farking sucks to play.

Re: Wallabies 2020 thread

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:29 am
by Thomas
Speaking of league, Vunivalu has been stood down and will miss the season opener after getting into an altercation with a security guard at a Brisbane bar.

Can take the boy out of the NRL but you can't take the NRL out of the boy.

Re: Wallabies 2020 thread

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:32 am
by shanky
grievous wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:26 am
shanky wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:11 am
grievous wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:12 am
Or revert to usual poach of league has beens......a little unfair but there is some great talent out there but it needs to be fast tracked through
We may be witnessing a reverse poach in action.

David Wilson's son, one three standout future stars of his age group (another being Suaali), might be on his way back to Union. Or so the rumour mill says...
Thats puzzling rugby wages have to be as low as they have ever been especially for junior to mid range pro players.
Maybe they just worked out league farking sucks to play.
There would be several guys who turn down league to stay in Union. It can't be all about the money?

Petaia would be one such example, off the top of my head

Re: Wallabies 2020 thread

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:56 am
by Mog The Almighty
shanky wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 9:26 pm OK fellas, what do we think about Jack Dempsey going to Glasgow at season’s end?


https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-unio ... 572ic.html

At this best, he was devastating metre eater, but his best was a little short lived and there’s been a fair few injuries.
He was coming good again last season but not enough to get back into national contention, especially with Harry Wilson getting up to speed.

State loyalties aside, we need depth at national level.

Glasgow are getting an excellent player. Go well Jack.
I think he's a fantastic player but we have good eights and even some prospects at six coming through. I wish he stayed and added to that pool of depth but considering there's no guarantees he'd even get selected, I can't blame him for taking the dollars and an overseas experience while he is in his prime.

I would only add that it's a major problem, all these players leaving. Imagine the depth of talent we'd have otherwise.

Re: Wallabies 2020 thread

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:48 am
by grievous
shanky wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:32 am
grievous wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 6:26 am
shanky wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:11 am
grievous wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:12 am
Or revert to usual poach of league has beens......a little unfair but there is some great talent out there but it needs to be fast tracked through
We may be witnessing a reverse poach in action.

David Wilson's son, one three standout future stars of his age group (another being Suaali), might be on his way back to Union. Or so the rumour mill says...
Thats puzzling rugby wages have to be as low as they have ever been especially for junior to mid range pro players.
Maybe they just worked out league farking sucks to play.
There would be several guys who turn down league to stay in Union. It can't be all about the money?

Petaia would be one such example, off the top of my head
A lot of young players with potential go to league because they have such large rosters. Nine teams plus reserves so there's a spot for everyone with a bit of talent plus the money is OK to good.
This is versus one team in NSW plus junior squad who hardly play.. Its always been a problem that there isn't enough pro spots for these guys, I feel for Dempsey, hes 26 not exactly that long left for his pro career hes probably given up any Wallaby spot now going overseas.
Shit Id rather be taking a club in France than Glasgow if I was heading that way, ooh those mid winter nights training.