SR RD6: Rebels vs Lions - Melbourne, 7 March

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SR RD6: Rebels vs Lions - Melbourne, 7 March

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Saturday 7 March - 19:15 AET | 10:15 SAST | 8:15 GMT/UTC

AAMI Park - Melbourne
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Capacity: 30,050

Weather:

Temp: 17°C
Rain: 16%
Humidity: 77%
Wind 16 kmh SSE

Betting odds:
Rebels 1.53
Lions 3.0
Handicap: Rebels - 5

Officials:
Referee: James Doleman
AR1: Federico Anselmi
AR2: James Quinn
TMO: James Leckie

Rebels:
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Log position: 9
Aus Conference: 2
Wins: 2 from 5
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Rebels: 1. Matt Gibbon, 2. Anaru Rangi, 3. Jermaine Ainsley, 4. Gideon Koegelenberg, 5. Matt Philip, 6. Angus Cottrell, 7. Richard Hardwick, 8. Isi Naisarani, 9. Ryan Louwrens, 10. Matt To’omua, 11. Marika Koroibete, 12. Billy Meakes, 13. Tom English, 14. Andrew Kellaway, 15. Dane Haylett-Petty (c)
Reserves: 16. Jordan Uelese, 17. Cameron Orr, 18. Cabous Eloff, 19. Ross Haylett-Petty, 20. Rob Leota, 21. Frank Lomani, 22. Michael Wells, 23. Andrew Deegan

Lions:
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Log position: 11
SA Conference: 4
Wins: 1 from 4
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Lions – 15 Andries Coetzee, 14 Tyrone Green, 13 Wandisile Simelane, 12 Dan Kriel, 11 Jamba Ulengo, 10 Elton Jantjies (c), 9 Andre Warner, 8 Len Massyn, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Marnus Schoeman, 5 Marvin Orie, 4 Ruben Schoeman, 3 Carlu Sadie, 2 Pieter Jansen, 1 Dylan Smith.
Subs: 16 Jan Henning Campher, 17 Sti Sithole, 18 Jannie du Plessis, 19 Wilhelm van der Sluys, 20 Hacjivah Dayimani, 21 Morne van den Berg, 22 Shaun Reynolds, 23 Courtnall Skosan.

History:
Played: 5
Rebels: 0
Lions: 5

In Australia:
Played: 2
Rebels: 0
Lions: 2

Recent games:
Sat, 16 Mar 2019: Rebels v Lions 33-36 - Johannesburg
Sat, 06 May 2017: Rebels v Lions 10-47 - Melbourne
Fri, 20 Mar 2015: Rebels v Lions 16-20 - Melbourne
Fri, 04 Jul 2014: Rebels v Lions 17-34 - Johannesburg
Sat, 07 Jul 2012: Rebels v Lions 32-37 - Johannesburg
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Re: SR RD6: Rebels vs Lions - Melbourne, 7 March

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Lions Injury Update

Vincent Tshituka will see a surgeon on Monday to determine the extent of his injury.
Roelof Smit has a quad injury (sustained during training back in South Africa).



Touring News:

Ruan Vermaak will join the Emirates Lions in Melbourne on Sunday evening (Australia time) to replace Vincent Tshituka (ankle) for the remainder of the tour.

The Emirates Lions arrived in Melbourne on Sunday afternoon and after checking into their hotel, had a short walk to the gym for an hour session.
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Re: SR RD6: Rebels vs Lions - Melbourne, 7 March

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The time has come for the Lions to throw caution to the wind and play their traditional brand of attacking rugby, and for coach Ivan van Rooyen to give opportunities to some other players.

This after the team slumped to their third Super Rugby defeat in four matches following Friday’s 29-17 loss to the Waratahs in Sydney. It was the first time the Tahs had beaten the Lions in six matches and since 2014.

The last time the Lions visited Sydney in 2018 they beat the Waratahs 29-0.

The Lions have now lost to the Jaguares, Stormers and Waratahs, with their only win coming against the Reds in round two. They face the dangerous Rebels in Melbourne next weekend before heading to New Zealand for matches against the Blues and Highlanders.

Van Rooyen’s men have been found wanting on attack and defensively this season and on Friday conceded five tries to a team that had lost all three of their previous games and looked well out of form. At the same time the Lions managed to score only two tries - both coming via flank Marnus Schoeman, from the driving maul.

While the Lions dominated the possession stakes in Sydney (61%) and won 98 rucks to the Tahs’ 56 they battled for momentum and rhythm in their game and failed to put multiple phases together. It meant that from 141 ball carries they beat only 13 defenders and made only four clean breaks. With their 100 ball carries the Tahs beat 24 defenders and made nine clean breaks.In defence, the Lions missed 24 of 93 tackles, while the Waratahs missed only 13 of 173.

Only a handful of the Lions players, among them Schoeman, captain Elton Jantjies and wing Tyrone Green, performed well, while several others failed to make an impact.

While the Lions are in a rebuilding phase following the departure of many big-name stars in the last year or two, it is difficult to understand why such dynamic players as loose-forward Hacjivah Dayimani and centre Wandisile Simelane haven’t started up to now.

The loose-trio that has been backed by Van Rooyen has failed to fire while the team’s two first-choice locks, Ruben Schoeman and Marvin Orie, have hardly done any damage to the opposition. And, in midfield, whether it’s been Dan Kriel playing next to Duncan Matthews or whether Manny Rass has worn the No 13 on his back, there has been precious little to get excited about in terms of what they have dished up in attack.

Also, exciting scrumhalf Dillon Smit, a player with plenty of experience and someone who makes things happen on the field, failed to even make the Lions tour squad.

The Lions have now also lost promising flank Vincent Tshituka to an ankle injury - and he’ll be returning home - so Van Rooyen will be forced into making a change in the loose-trio for the upcoming match against the Rebels. Dayimani or veteran 35-year-old former Springbok, Willem Alberts, will now almost surely get an extended run.

The Lions need some strong and bold leadership right now, as well as some tough decisions to be made - by the coaching team and the players themselves. There are still three weeks to go on tour and getting a win, from a commanding performance, this coming weekend in Melbourne would certainly make life a little easier when the Lions hit New Zealand after that.
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Time for a reshuffle of the match 23 and to go back to a 5/3 bench

15. Tyrone Green, 14 Jamba Ulengo, 13 Wandisile Simelane, 12 Shaun Reynolds, 11 Courtnall Skosan, 10 Elton Jantjies, 9 Andre Warner, 8 Hacjivah Dayimani, 7 Ruan Vermaak, 6 Marnus Schoeman, 5 Marvin Orie, 4 Willem Alberts, 3 Carlu Sadie, 2 Jan-Henning Campher, 1 Dylan Smith
Replacements: 16 Pieter Jansen, 17 Sti Sithole, 18 Frans van Wyk, 19 Ruben Schoeman/Wilhelm van der Sluys, 20 Len Massyn, 21 Krappies van den Berg, 22 Mannie Rass, 23 Andries Coetzee
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Re: SR RD6: Rebels vs Lions - Melbourne, 7 March

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Lions have been pretty average this year. Rebels must win this game.
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TranceNRG wrote:Lions have been pretty average this year. Rebels must win this game.
Pretty average is a compliment :?
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Re: SR RD6: Rebels vs Lions - Melbourne, 7 March

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Betting odds:
Rebels 1.53
Lions 3.0
Handicap: Rebels - 5
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Re: SR RD6: Rebels vs Lions - Melbourne, 7 March

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Hopefully the Lions can pull something out of the hat here.
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Average Joe wrote:Hopefully the Lions can pull something out of the hat here.
I expect another loss for the Lions this weekend.
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Re: SR RD6: Rebels vs Lions - Melbourne, 7 March

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That's just sad boet. The youngster have to step up here and show some fortitude.
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just not clicking at all...........
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We have to applaud Jens, he is sticking with his team through good and bad times. A lesson in there for some of us...
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Jens, your thoughts on Willem Alberts?

He looks a little old and slow.
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Chilli wrote:Jens, your thoughts on Willem Alberts?

He looks a little old and slow.
Definitely.

Maybe the Lions should start him when the game is normally tighter, take him off after 40 and get a younger player on for impact

To me, the big issue against the Tahs was the Lions' failure to protect possession when on attack. Too many 50/50 offloads instead of just recycling the ball. Yes, the defence was poor but that often happened after losing possession when the Tahs counter-attacked and the defence didn't reset quick enough

The Lions need to be more focused, especially during the first half, before trying to speed up the game
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Re: SR RD6: Rebels vs Lions - Melbourne, 7 March

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Match Rebels v Lions @ AAMI Park, Melbourne
Date Saturday 7 March
Kick-off 19:15 local
Referee James Doleman
AR1 Federico Anselmi
AR2 James Quinn
TMO James Leckie
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Rookie ref. This could be interesting
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Dreadful start and cant see it getting much better TBH.

Rebels by 12+ and Lions to finish bottom 3 :( :(
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Catman wrote:Dreadful start and cant see it getting much better TBH.

Rebels by 12+ and Lions to finish bottom 3 :( :(
The poor start to the tour definitely put a damper on my expectations for the Lions this year. They need to forget trying to copy Rassie's blueprint and go back to their old game
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Jensrsa wrote:
Catman wrote:Dreadful start and cant see it getting much better TBH.

Rebels by 12+ and Lions to finish bottom 3 :( :(
The poor start to the tour definitely put a damper on my expectations for the Lions this year. They need to forget trying to copy Rassie's blueprint and go back to their old game
You really need to work on that Rassie hate, it is rather unbecoming
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Big Nipper wrote:
Jensrsa wrote:
Catman wrote:Dreadful start and cant see it getting much better TBH.

Rebels by 12+ and Lions to finish bottom 3 :( :(
The poor start to the tour definitely put a damper on my expectations for the Lions this year. They need to forget trying to copy Rassie's blueprint and go back to their old game
You really need to work on that Rassie hate, it is rather unbecoming
Nothing to do with "Rassie hate". The Lions don't have the forward pack to dominate up front, play a kicking game or to play a 6/2 bench. They need quick ball, retain possession for as long as possible and speed up the game in the last 20
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Jensrsa wrote:
Big Nipper wrote:
Jensrsa wrote:
Catman wrote:Dreadful start and cant see it getting much better TBH.

Rebels by 12+ and Lions to finish bottom 3 :( :(
The poor start to the tour definitely put a damper on my expectations for the Lions this year. They need to forget trying to copy Rassie's blueprint and go back to their old game
You really need to work on that Rassie hate, it is rather unbecoming
Nothing to do with "Rassie hate". The Lions don't have the forward pack to dominate up front, play a kicking game or to play a 6/2 bench. They need quick ball, retain possession for as long as possible and speed up the game in the last 20
Tbf that's nothing to do with Rassie and all to do with Van Rooyen.
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handyman wrote:
Jensrsa wrote:
Big Nipper wrote:
Jensrsa wrote:
Catman wrote:Dreadful start and cant see it getting much better TBH.

Rebels by 12+ and Lions to finish bottom 3 :( :(
The poor start to the tour definitely put a damper on my expectations for the Lions this year. They need to forget trying to copy Rassie's blueprint and go back to their old game
You really need to work on that Rassie hate, it is rather unbecoming
Nothing to do with "Rassie hate". The Lions don't have the forward pack to dominate up front, play a kicking game or to play a 6/2 bench. They need quick ball, retain possession for as long as possible and speed up the game in the last 20
Tbf that's nothing to do with Rassie and all to do with Van Rooyen.
I never said it's Rassie's fault. Van Rooyen is trying to hybrid the Lions game with Rassie's and it's not working
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Maybe Ivan needs to cash in his chips.

One has to remember that cash is not always king.
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Rebels: 1. Matt Gibbon, 2. Anaru Rangi, 3. Jermaine Ainsley, 4. Gideon Koegelenberg, 5. Matt Philip, 6. Angus Cottrell, 7. Richard Hardwick, 8. Isi Naisarani, 9. Ryan Louwrens, 10. Matt To’omua, 11. Marika Koroibete, 12. Billy Meakes, 13. Tom English, 14. Andrew Kellaway, 15. Dane Haylett-Petty (c)
Reserves: 16. Jordan Uelese, 17. Cameron Orr, 18. Cabous Eloff, 19. Ross Haylett-Petty, 20. Rob Leota, 21. Frank Lomani, 22. Michael Wells, 23. Andrew Deegan
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Jensrsa wrote: Rebels: 1. Matt Gibbon, 2. Anaru Rangi, 3. Jermaine Ainsley, 4. Gideon Koegelenberg, 5. Matt Philip, 6. Angus Cottrell, 7. Richard Hardwick, 8. Isi Naisarani, 9. Ryan Louwrens, 10. Matt To’omua, 11. Marika Koroibete, 12. Billy Meakes, 13. Tom English, 14. Andrew Kellaway, 15. Dane Haylett-Petty (c)
Reserves: 16. Jordan Uelese, 17. Cameron Orr, 18. Cabous Eloff, 19. Ross Haylett-Petty, 20. Rob Leota, 21. Frank Lomani, 22. Michael Wells, 23. Andrew Deegan
A few Saffers in this team.
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Lions – 15 Andries Coetzee, 14 Tyrone Green, 13 Wandisile Simelane, 12 Dan Kriel, 11 Jamba Ulengo, 10 Elton Jantjies (c), 9 Andre Warner, 8 Len Massyn, 7 Willem Alberts, 6 Marnus Schoeman, 5 Marvin Orie, 4 Ruben Schoeman, 3 Carlu Sadie, 2 Pieter Jansen, 1 Dylan Smith.
Subs: 16 Jan Henning Campher, 17 Sti Sithole, 18 Jannie du Plessis, 19 Wilhelm van der Sluys, 20 Hacjivah Dayimani, 21 Morne van den Berg, 22 Shaun Reynolds, 23 Courtnall Skosan.

Good to see Simelane starting and the Lions going back to a 5/3 bench
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Trivia:

- The Lions have won each of their five Super Rugby meetings with the Rebels, although three of those victories came by five points or fewer.
- The Rebels have lost their last four Super Rugby games at home against teams from outside Australia – after having won three such fixtures on the bounce prior.
- The Lions have lost their last three Super Rugby games in Australia, after having won six games on the trot in the country prior. They’ve won on each of their two previous visits to Melbourne to face the Rebels.
- The Lions have enjoyed 18 minutes and 24 seconds of time in possession per game this Super Rugby season, the most of any team. As a result, they also lead the competition in carries (126) and passes (161) per game this season.
- The Rebels’ Matt Phillip has stolen six line-outs throughout the 2020 Super Rugby campaign, the joint-most of any player alongside Jaguares’ Guido Petti Pagadizaval; no other player has stolen more than three.
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Jensrsa wrote:Trivia:

- The Lions have won each of their five Super Rugby meetings with the Rebels, although three of those victories came by five points or fewer.
- The Rebels have lost their last four Super Rugby games at home against teams from outside Australia – after having won three such fixtures on the bounce prior.
- The Lions have lost their last three Super Rugby games in Australia, after having won six games on the trot in the country prior. They’ve won on each of their two previous visits to Melbourne to face the Rebels.
- The Lions have enjoyed 18 minutes and 24 seconds of time in possession per game this Super Rugby season, the most of any team. As a result, they also lead the competition in carries (126) and passes (161) per game this season.
- The Rebels’ Matt Phillip has stolen six line-outs throughout the 2020 Super Rugby campaign, the joint-most of any player alongside Jaguares’ Guido Petti Pagadizaval; no other player has stolen more than three.
- The last time the two teams met, the Lions stormed home with a 20-1 penalty count in their favour and won the match 36 - 33 after trailing 33-5 just after halftime
Fixed that for you on behalf of AC.
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I'm confident Rebels can win this one. Wessels is into his 3rd year and Rebels will make playoffs if they time their run properly. The ever unfortunate Red's look set to narrowly miss out once again.
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Lions lineout not working, and they are are also being bullied at the breakdown.
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Soccer from both 10s :thumbdown:
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Pen only, not a yellow for me.
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Agree. Bit harsh.
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15-7 Rebs
34 mins

Great conversion by Elton
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Elbows resting on the floor allowed now then.
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English :blush:
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Good to see the Lions scrums starting to work. Struggled during the first 3 or 4 games.

Playing catch-up but the yellow cards help :)
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phew finally a thread please delete mine
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Crazy Ed wrote:phew finally a thread please delete mine
:lol:

Been on the bored for 6 days already
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Thomas wrote:
Jensrsa wrote:Trivia:

- The Lions have won each of their five Super Rugby meetings with the Rebels, although three of those victories came by five points or fewer.
- The Rebels have lost their last four Super Rugby games at home against teams from outside Australia – after having won three such fixtures on the bounce prior.
- The Lions have lost their last three Super Rugby games in Australia, after having won six games on the trot in the country prior. They’ve won on each of their two previous visits to Melbourne to face the Rebels.
- The Lions have enjoyed 18 minutes and 24 seconds of time in possession per game this Super Rugby season, the most of any team. As a result, they also lead the competition in carries (126) and passes (161) per game this season.
- The Rebels’ Matt Phillip has stolen six line-outs throughout the 2020 Super Rugby campaign, the joint-most of any player alongside Jaguares’ Guido Petti Pagadizaval; no other player has stolen more than three.
- The last time the two teams met, the Lions stormed home with a 20-1 penalty count in their favour and won the match 36 - 33 after trailing 33-5 just after halftime
Fixed that for you on behalf of AC.
Any news on betting market movements and gold watch sales?
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Jensrsa wrote:
Crazy Ed wrote:phew finally a thread please delete mine
:lol:

Been on the bored for 6 days already
I knew it was here but it wasn't on my front page.All good
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