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Awesome to have a kuier again. Been forever. Kids loved the contact with friends.
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WTF? You're not allowed to under L3 and definitely not in fokken Slaapies.
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sorCrer wrote:WTF? You're not allowed to under L3 and definitely not in fokken Slaapies.
Been over it for a month already.
You have to learn to live with it.
I refuse to be afraid of it.
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Sards wrote:
sorCrer wrote:WTF? You're not allowed to under L3 and definitely not in fokken Slaapies.
Been over it for a month already.
You have to learn to live with it.
I refuse to be afraid of it.
Be careful. You have Afrikaans genes which means you are prone to high blood pressure and high cholesterol. Covid19 will take you down in about 2 days. :(
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Sandstorm wrote:
Sards wrote:
sorCrer wrote:WTF? You're not allowed to under L3 and definitely not in fokken Slaapies.
Been over it for a month already.
You have to learn to live with it.
I refuse to be afraid of it.
Be careful. You have Afrikaans genes which means you are prone to high blood pressure and high cholesterol. Covid19 will take you down in about 2 days. :(
You have no idea the relief of spending time with mates...having a session.
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Sards wrote:
sorCrer wrote:WTF? You're not allowed to under L3 and definitely not in fokken Slaapies.
Been over it for a month already.
You have to learn to live with it.
I refuse to be afraid of it.
Wrong log in President Trump.
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There’s a difference between “not being afraid” and being stupid. But each to their own.

Hopefully, when you eventually do get it, and you seem intent on getting it, you don’t spread it and kill too many other people.

Just don’t come on here looking for sympathy.
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Blake wrote:There’s a difference between “not being afraid” and being stupid. But each to their own.

Hopefully, when you eventually do get it, and you seem intent on getting it, you don’t spread it and kill too many other people.

Just don’t come on here looking for sympathy.

:lol:

WTAF......Dude.

I have never begged anyone for sympathy. You have got the wrong guy.
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The US Centre for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimates the fatality rate of symptomatic cases is 0.05% for those under 50 and 0.2% for 50-64 year-olds. One third (35%) of those infected experience no symptoms at all.

Putting this in context, which is how all risks must be assessed if we are to respond to them rationally, covid has a risk level similar to flu (0.1%) for those under 65.

On the facts alone, the rational response to covid is to assist the high-risk group to shield, while the vast majority of South Africans get back to work, with reasonable safety protocols in place, to start rolling back hunger and producing the tax revenue necessary to fund health, education and social grants.
Without having seen this before it was my gut feeling. The way it spreads so quickly you really cannot expect to never get it. The economic repercussions of extending this lockdown just cannot be imagined. My large suppliers are
A. Laying off on average a third of staff.
B. Fighting strikes ( can you actually believe this) because returning to work staff weren't happy about loss of income during lockdown.

It's a friggin disaster. The worst is yet to come. I have been told of a loan made by a major company just to pay salaries. I don't know if you all understand the consequences of a 2 month lockdown. Most transactions range from 30 to 60 days. After 30 days of no income you are still spending current income and reducing overhead by not paying staff or paying staff a reduced salary. After 2 months there's no money. Tapping into reserves and getting into debt. 3 months and you are gone.
I started early. At least I have an income coming in this month. And next. Ok....not enough but something.

It cannot get to 3 months. How many people do you know that are affected by the economy. How many people do you know that are infected by Covid19
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We had our first Covid-19 case at work on Friday. Let's see whst Mondsy brings.
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Sards wrote:
The US Centre for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimates the fatality rate of symptomatic cases is 0.05% for those under 50 and 0.2% for 50-64 year-olds. One third (35%) of those infected experience no symptoms at all.

Putting this in context, which is how all risks must be assessed if we are to respond to them rationally, covid has a risk level similar to flu (0.1%) for those under 65.

On the facts alone, the rational response to covid is to assist the high-risk group to shield, while the vast majority of South Africans get back to work, with reasonable safety protocols in place, to start rolling back hunger and producing the tax revenue necessary to fund health, education and social grants.
Without having seen this before it was my gut feeling. The way it spreads so quickly you really cannot expect to never get it. The economic repercussions of extending this lockdown just cannot be imagined. My large suppliers are
A. Laying off on average a third of staff.
B. Fighting strikes ( can you actually believe this) because returning to work staff weren't happy about loss of income during lockdown.

It's a friggin disaster. The worst is yet to come. I have been told of a loan made by a major company just to pay salaries. I don't know if you all understand the consequences of a 2 month lockdown. Most transactions range from 30 to 60 days. After 30 days of no income you are still spending current income and reducing overhead by not paying staff or paying staff a reduced salary. After 2 months there's no money. Tapping into reserves and getting into debt. 3 months and you are gone.
I started early. At least I have an income coming in this month. And next. Ok....not enough but something.

It cannot get to 3 months. How many people do you know that are affected by the economy. How many people do you know that are infected by Covid19

To be brutally honest in terms of income, its as good as ever. I have taken a 25% hit in one of the royalty payments I get but apart from that it's a pretty good time for software development specialising in e-commerce.
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On Friday our health minister said that 80% of our confirmed cases asymptomatic. Hospitals are nearly full, but he says nobody is 'sick' in the traditional sense.
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assfly wrote:On Friday our health minister said that 80% of our confirmed cases asymptomatic. Hospitals are nearly full, but he says nobody is 'sick' in the traditional sense.
Are you sure he said that?

There is a massive difference between “asymptomatic” and “symptomatic but not requiring hospitalisation”. Even people with “mild” versions of COVID19 are in for a rough ride.

The best estimates I’ve seen for truly asymptomatic cases is around 10-15%
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assfly wrote:On Friday our health minister said that 80% of our confirmed cases asymptomatic. Hospitals are nearly full, but he says nobody is 'sick' in the traditional sense.
Heard them say on Classic FM that the lifting of the booze ban has impacted on the virus spread.

How the fu ck they'd know after 5 days is a mystery.
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Rinkals wrote:
assfly wrote:On Friday our health minister said that 80% of our confirmed cases asymptomatic. Hospitals are nearly full, but he says nobody is 'sick' in the traditional sense.
Heard them say on Classic FM that the lifting of the booze ban has impacted on the virus spread.

How the fu ck they'd know after 5 days is a mystery.
I don’t think it’s possible to make that determination. But again, is that what he actually said?

Western Cape Premier Alan Winde made a comment that since the lifting of the alcohol sale ban there has been a significant spike in emergency room visits. Did the Health Minister no maybe say something similar?

I can also confirm that Sards wasn’t the only one to host a social gathering since the alcohol has started flowing again. I know of at least 3 co-workers that have done similar. So yeah, we can expect a spike in 7-10 days. :|
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Are you sure he said that?

There is a massive difference between “asymptomatic” and “symptomatic but not requiring hospitalisation”. Even people with “mild” versions of COVID19 are in for a rough ride.

The best estimates I’ve seen for truly asymptomatic cases is around 10-15%
I am sure. It's part of a big government push for positive cases to be treated at home until they turn serious.
“With the fight against the virus continuing, we have realized that over 80 percent of our patients in hospitals are asymptomatic and, therefore, can and may be managed from home,” Kagwe said.
These statistics are for Kenya, not SA. One of our counties was found out to have only 10 isolation units for a population of 1,000,000
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Rinkals wrote: Heard them say on Classic FM that the lifting of the booze ban has impacted on the virus spread.

How the fu ck they'd know after 5 days is a mystery.
Also heard that rumour. We need to stock up again?
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Blake wrote: I can also confirm that Sards wasn’t the only one to host a social gathering since the alcohol has started flowing again. I know of at least 3 co-workers that have done similar. So yeah, we can expect a spike in 7-10 days. :|

Go big or go home dude...youngsters haven't learnt to live yet...Dude I fought in a war and here I still am.
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assfly wrote:
Blake wrote:
Are you sure he said that?

There is a massive difference between “asymptomatic” and “symptomatic but not requiring hospitalisation”. Even people with “mild” versions of COVID19 are in for a rough ride.

The best estimates I’ve seen for truly asymptomatic cases is around 10-15%
I am sure. It's part of a big government push for positive cases to be treated at home until they turn serious.
“With the fight against the virus continuing, we have realized that over 80 percent of our patients in hospitals are asymptomatic and, therefore, can and may be managed from home,” Kagwe said.
These statistics are for Kenya, not SA. One of our counties was found out to have only 10 isolation units for a population of 1,000,000
I think they are misspeaking due to the language thing.

There is no way that 80% of cases show ZERO symptoms. 80% of cases being mild - fever, cough, fatigue, difficulty breathing for a couple of days - that I can buy...but completely asymptomatic? That would be VERY good news but is also VERY unlikely given the outcome of the couple of (very flawed) studies that have been done on the subject up to now.

To the best of my knowledge the breakdown is as follows:

10%-15% of people are asymptomatic and spread the disease without showing any symptoms
85%-90% of people that get the disease will show symptoms

These figures will likely change over time, but since so few countries were able to implement tracing programs early in the outbreak, we will need to rely on antibody tests (which currently have a high false positive rate) and people's recollections of symptoms from months ago to get the actual number.

I hope the official just misspoke.
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I've watched a youtube clip by a British medical practioner (old chap) who is of the opinion, apparently after intensive study of all the figures and available models, that a minimum of 50% of the global population is just not susceptible to the virus. He ventures the figure is probably closer to 80%. According to him, it is not about being asymptomatic, those people are just not "in the game."
It will be interesting to look back at all of this in a year or two's time to see who was right.
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Blake wrote:I think they are misspeaking due to the language thing.

There is no way that 80% of cases show ZERO symptoms. 80% of cases being mild - fever, cough, fatigue, difficulty breathing for a couple of days - that I can buy...but completely asymptomatic? That would be VERY good news but is also VERY unlikely given the outcome of the couple of (very flawed) studies that have been done on the subject up to now.

To the best of my knowledge the breakdown is as follows:

10%-15% of people are asymptomatic and spread the disease without showing any symptoms
85%-90% of people that get the disease will show symptoms

These figures will likely change over time, but since so few countries were able to implement tracing programs early in the outbreak, we will need to rely on antibody tests (which currently have a high false positive rate) and people's recollections of symptoms from months ago to get the actual number.

I hope the official just misspoke.
What language thing? He's our health minister and speaks perfect English.

Covid appears to be a very different disease here than in SA. Up until 2 weeks ago our hospitals were completely empty. They finally managed to increase testing and now the hospitals are full of people who tested positive but aren't showing symptoms.
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Bokkom wrote:I've watched a youtube clip by a British medical practioner (old chap) who is of the opinion, apparently after intensive study of all the figures and available models, that a minimum of 50% of the global population is just not susceptible to the virus. He ventures the figure is probably closer to 80%. According to him, it is not about being asymptomatic, those people are just not "in the game."
It will be interesting to look back at all of this in a year or two's time to see who was right.
The problem is that the cost of getting this wrong will be far too much.
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Sards wrote:
Blake wrote: I can also confirm that Sards wasn’t the only one to host a social gathering since the alcohol has started flowing again. I know of at least 3 co-workers that have done similar. So yeah, we can expect a spike in 7-10 days. :|
Go big or go home dude...youngsters haven't learnt to live yet...Dude I fought in a war and here I still am.
I'll go home thanks :thumbup:
There's more than enough time to "live" once this storm passes...for those of us that come out the other side.
In the meantime I'm enjoying some quality time, at home, with my family and that is more than enough "living" for me.

The thing that got you through that war was training, discipline and the man fighting alongside you having your back.
For this war you have none of that. Your fellow soldiers and you have zero discipline (can't even follow the simplest of instructions) and nobody has each others' backs. That's why we are back on the exponential growth curve and we are losing battle after battle in this war.
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Blake wrote:
Sards wrote:
Blake wrote: I can also confirm that Sards wasn’t the only one to host a social gathering since the alcohol has started flowing again. I know of at least 3 co-workers that have done similar. So yeah, we can expect a spike in 7-10 days. :|
Go big or go home dude...youngsters haven't learnt to live yet...Dude I fought in a war and here I still am.
I'll go home thanks :thumbup:
There's more than enough time to "live" once this storm passes...for those of us that come out the other side.
In the meantime I'm enjoying some quality time, at home, with my family and that is more than enough "living" for me.

The thing that got you through that war was training, discipline and the man fighting alongside you having your back.
For this war you have none of that. Your fellow soldiers and you have zero discipline (can't even follow the simplest of instructions) and nobody has each others' backs. That's why we are back on the exponential growth curve and we are losing battle after battle in this war.
I think we're all surprised Sards was killed by his own platoon.
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Blake wrote:
Sards wrote:
Blake wrote: I can also confirm that Sards wasn’t the only one to host a social gathering since the alcohol has started flowing again. I know of at least 3 co-workers that have done similar. So yeah, we can expect a spike in 7-10 days. :|
Go big or go home dude...youngsters haven't learnt to live yet...Dude I fought in a war and here I still am.
I'll go home thanks :thumbup:
There's more than enough time to "live" once this storm passes...for those of us that come out the other side.
In the meantime I'm enjoying some quality time, at home, with my family and that is more than enough "living" for me.

The thing that got you through that war was training, discipline and the man fighting alongside you having your back.
For this war you have none of that. Your fellow soldiers and you have zero discipline (can't even follow the simplest of instructions) and nobody has each others' backs. That's why we are back on the exponential growth curve and we are losing battle after battle in this war.
One thing I have noticed about Covid19. Its difficult to get back into a work culture once you get onto that couch in front of the telly
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Bokkom wrote:I've watched a youtube clip by a British medical practioner (old chap) who is of the opinion, apparently after intensive study of all the figures and available models, that a minimum of 50% of the global population is just not susceptible to the virus. He ventures the figure is probably closer to 80%. According to him, it is not about being asymptomatic, those people are just not "in the game."
It will be interesting to look back at all of this in a year or two's time to see who was right.
This thing with these models is that most of them will be wrong, that I can guarantee.

In fact, that's the first thing they teach you when you learn to build simulations and mathematical models is that they will be wrong. It's not about getting it right, it's about getting as good an answer as possible, given the information you have available. It takes time to refine the models and make them more accurate...more data, more complex calculations, and testing and refining assumptions. You don't have any of that during a pandemic...time is limited, data is fragmented and inconsistent, and the models are still rife with incorrect assumptions that haven't been tested.

A lot of these people making these contrarian videos on Youtube and claims on Twitter have nothing to lose by getting it wrong, and everything to gain by staking their entire reputation a long shot. If they are wrong, nobody will even remember, and if they end up being right they will have book deals and news panel gigs for the rest of their lives.

Meanwhile, people that are just as smart, academics at UCT and epidemiologists that specialise and have trained for this their entire lives, that have to stake their reputations on being right, are telling us to be careful. Not because their are sure it is dangerous, but because their are not yet sure that it is safe. When the data shows them that things are safe again, I'm sure they will be just as happy as the rest of us for things to go back to normal.
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Sards wrote:One thing I have noticed about Covid19. Its difficult to get back into a work culture once you get onto that couch in front of the telly
Can't say I've noticed the same.

Haven't worked as hard as I have in the last 10 weeks before. Figuring out how to survive the lockdown, plans and strategies to steal marketshare and out-maneuver the competition post-lockdown, it's been relentless and working from home has completely blurred the lines and trashed the concept of "work-life-balance"

Instead of working 5x 9-hour days, I'm now working 6x 8-hour days, and instead of starting my working day at 8AM, it now starts at 5AM or 6AM.
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Blake wrote:
Sards wrote:One thing I have noticed about Covid19. Its difficult to get back into a work culture once you get onto that couch in front of the telly
Can't say I've noticed the same.

Haven't worked as hard as I have in the last 10 weeks before. Figuring out how to survive the lockdown, plans and strategies to steal marketshare and out-maneuver the competition post-lockdown, it's been relentless and working from home has completely blurred the lines and trashed the concept of "work-life-balance"

Instead of working 5x 9-hour days, I'm now working 6x 8-hour days, and instead of starting my working day at 8AM, it now starts at 5AM or 6AM.
Have to agree. For me, I have my usual work, then I've got one group at work making sure we comply with all the stipulated regulations regarding safety, another group chasing sales and another group liasing with debtors regarding payments.

Time to sit on a coach, you have to be kidding me.
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handyman wrote:
Blake wrote:
Sards wrote:One thing I have noticed about Covid19. Its difficult to get back into a work culture once you get onto that couch in front of the telly
Can't say I've noticed the same.

Haven't worked as hard as I have in the last 10 weeks before. Figuring out how to survive the lockdown, plans and strategies to steal marketshare and out-maneuver the competition post-lockdown, it's been relentless and working from home has completely blurred the lines and trashed the concept of "work-life-balance"

Instead of working 5x 9-hour days, I'm now working 6x 8-hour days, and instead of starting my working day at 8AM, it now starts at 5AM or 6AM.
Have to agree. For me, I have my usual work, then I've got one group at work making sure we comply with all the stipulated regulations regarding safety, another group chasing sales and another group liasing with debtors regarding payments.

Time to sit on a coach, you have to be kidding me.
Yeah, but Sards has had it much tougher than anyone else.
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assfly wrote:What language thing? He's our health minister and speaks perfect English.

Covid appears to be a very different disease here than in SA. Up until 2 weeks ago our hospitals were completely empty. They finally managed to increase testing and now the hospitals are full of people who tested positive but aren't showing symptoms.
Ah okay. I thought maybe it was just a language barrier issue like with our officials.

That's great news for Kenya...I think. It's so difficult to pin down how this thing works...how it spreads, what it does and why it doesn't do it to some populations. It's utterly confounding and it's really no wonder there are so many conflicting models and theories out there.
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Time to sit on a coach, you have to be kidding me.
You gotta do what you gotta do to get to the top.
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Easy to pontificate from a place of relative comfort. Tell all this to some single mother who lost her job who has to feed her hungry babies or a small business owner busy witnessing the downfall of his life's work who's family relies on him to bring in the beacon. Tell a bunch of unemployed youth who has very little to get excited about, to just stay the fok at home alone. I bet you most will give you the finger and tell you to fokof with your lock-down and all your bullshit studies and percentages.
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Blake wrote:That's great news for Kenya...I think. It's so difficult to pin down how this thing works...how it spreads, what it does and why it doesn't do it to some populations. It's utterly confounding and it's really no wonder there are so many conflicting models and theories out there.
The fact we're doing well is purely by accident rather than design. But there is definitely something about this region that is working against the disease. I agree that it will be a long time before we really know what happened here.

Uganda hasn't reported a single death yet, and Tanzania says they are officially free of covid (which is horseshit, but numbers are still very low).
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OomPB wrote:
Rinkals wrote: Heard them say on Classic FM that the lifting of the booze ban has impacted on the virus spread.

How the fu ck they'd know after 5 days is a mystery.
Also heard that rumour. We need to stock up again?
We are...I'm going to buy as much as possible. I'd rather stock up on beer, wine and whiskey than toilet paper.

I'm rather disappointed I didn't buy my friend's home brewing rig when he immigrated to Germany last year. :x

I am fully expecting Cape Town to go into a Italy-style lock-down again in August when our intensive care unit capacity runs out.
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assfly wrote:
Blake wrote:That's great news for Kenya...I think. It's so difficult to pin down how this thing works...how it spreads, what it does and why it doesn't do it to some populations. It's utterly confounding and it's really no wonder there are so many conflicting models and theories out there.
The fact we're doing well is purely by accident rather than design. But there is definitely something about this region that is working against the disease. I agree that it will be a long time before we really know what happened here.

Uganda hasn't reported a single death yet, and Tanzania says they are officially free of covid (which is horseshit, but numbers are still very low).
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Sandstorm wrote:Low cholesterol :thumbup:
Could be. Also the recent research released on vitamin D works in our favour too.
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assfly wrote:
Blake wrote:That's great news for Kenya...I think. It's so difficult to pin down how this thing works...how it spreads, what it does and why it doesn't do it to some populations. It's utterly confounding and it's really no wonder there are so many conflicting models and theories out there.
The fact we're doing well is purely by accident rather than design. But there is definitely something about this region that is working against the disease. I agree that it will be a long time before we really know what happened here.

Uganda hasn't reported a single death yet, and Tanzania says they are officially free of covid (which is horseshit, but numbers are still very low).
Yeah, I dunno man. We thought the same thing early on...and some still do since the numbers are still so low in some of the provinces. But once this thing gets out, it runs away very quickly.

Personally, I think that areas with low numbers just had a very slow start. They had virtually no cases going into lockdown (by sheer luck) and lockdowns managed to smother out the few cases that they did have...except for a couple of pockets. And those pockets, if not controlled and monitored, will eventually spiral out of control.

I really hope I'm wrong, and that there is, at best, something in that area that can be copied elsewhere, or at worst, some insight that can be gained as to how this virus works. I think there is maybe some merit to what some critics have said about countries that have gone into lockdown early, and that it has lulled them into a false sense of security when they won't be able to use that tactic again later on when they really need to.
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Blake wrote:Yeah, I dunno man. We thought the same thing early on...and some still do since the numbers are still so low in some of the provinces. But once this thing gets out, it runs away very quickly.

Personally, I think that areas with low numbers just had a very slow start. They had virtually no cases going into lockdown (by sheer luck) and lockdowns managed to smother out the few cases that they did have...except for a couple of pockets. And those pockets, if not controlled and monitored, will eventually spiral out of control.

I really hope I'm wrong, and that there is, at best, something in that area that can be copied elsewhere, or at worst, some insight that can be gained as to how this virus works. I think there is maybe some merit to what some critics have said about countries that have gone into lockdown early, and that it has lulled them into a false sense of security when they won't be able to use that tactic again later on when they really need to.
The only country in East Africa that went into full lockdown was Rwanda, whose numbers are low. Kenya had a curfew and travel in and out of Nairobi was banned (although as usual you can pay the cops to get through), so we had no real strict regulations.

The virus hit our slums like Kibera quite early; and our testing has been concentrated there but it has died down in the last couple of weeks. The worst hit community was the Somali slum who broke all the social distancing rules during Ramadan, but even that has returned to normal.
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Average Joe wrote:Easy to pontificate from a place of relative comfort. Tell all this to some single mother who lost her job who has to feed her hungry babies or a small business owner busy witnessing the downfall of his life's work who's family relies on him to bring in the beacon. Tell a bunch of unemployed youth who has very little to get excited about, to just stay the fok at home alone. I bet you most will give you the finger and tell you to fokof with your lock-down and all your bullshit studies and percentages.
We did the marketing at home. You don't reach your intended market. Nothing trumps showing your face. Re Sandy's dig. No. I haven't had it easier. But I am not letting Covid 19 dictate my life. In a years time let's talk again.
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This has probably been discussed somewhere else and I am definitely no expert on either medicine, statistics or virology, but this Diamond Princess case is very interesting, IMO. A near perfect situation to study this virus, because of its isolation and people being crammed together for a month with the virus running rampant. But even here less than 20% of the people were infected of which 18% had no symptoms.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00885-w
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