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Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:07 pm
by Sards
sorCrer wrote:
Sards wrote:
I looked into it but its Hellishly Expensive....I think I was quote R 108 000.00 for 4 of us ....for a week
:lol:

WTF is funny...is that peanuts for you????

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:15 pm
by sorCrer
Sards wrote:
sorCrer wrote:
Sards wrote:
I looked into it but its Hellishly Expensive....I think I was quote R 108 000.00 for 4 of us ....for a week
:lol:

WTF is funny...is that peanuts for you????
That is what foreign travel costs these days, boet.

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:15 pm
by handyman
Blake wrote:
handyman wrote:
Blake wrote:
Sards wrote:Give yourself an uppercut. I can't stand such self pity. You are a keyboard warrior dude. Us foot soldiers will put our best foot forward and confront the enemy for you.


I'm saving as much as possible to try and help our friends and family that aren't as lucky, and hopefully once all this has blown over and I've managed to avoid death or massive medical debt, there are going to be many assets to pick up for cents on the Rand.
Surely's one's medical aid will pay if you contract Covid?
One would hope so, but I really don’t know.
I think there are a couple of variables, the plan you have, where you get admitted, the treatment you need, specialists (especially if you require a ventilator) and if there are any treatments you need to assist recovery.

Especially if you get admitted to a private hospital that charges more than your plan covers. If you don’t have gap cover and need to see specialists or have lasting lung damage that requires treatment etc...the costs might not all be covered.
When it comes to your health and medical aid, I always take the safe option, so I have a good medical aid plan with the best Gap Cover. I'm happy to pay that premium for me and my family.

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:19 pm
by handyman
Foreign travel does not have to be expensive. A few years back the wife and I went on an all inclusive holiday to Zanzibar for 7 days for under R 30k for the both of us. Mauritius will set you back about R 40k for 2.

As you can see, I like island/beach holidays 8)

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:20 pm
by Sandstorm
handyman wrote:Foreign travel does not have to be expensive. A few years back the wife and I went on an all inclusive holiday to Zanzibar for 7 days for under R 30k for the both of us. Mauritius will set you back about R 40k for 2.

As you can see, I like island/beach holidays 8)
Yeah, we've all seen your wife's Instagram feed....

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:21 pm
by handyman
Sandstorm wrote:
handyman wrote:Foreign travel does not have to be expensive. A few years back the wife and I went on an all inclusive holiday to Zanzibar for 7 days for under R 30k for the both of us. Mauritius will set you back about R 40k for 2.

As you can see, I like island/beach holidays 8)
Yeah, we've all seen your wife's Instagram feed....
In your dreams boet, in your dreams.

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:00 pm
by beachboy
I was supposed to be going to Italy next year but that is looking to be off the table at the moment and I have moved my plans to 2022. My son's one way ticket from The Philippines to SA was R32 000. It may be a while before there is enough competition and commercial viability to bring the cost of flights back to pre virus prices.

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:20 pm
by handyman
beachboy wrote:I was supposed to be going to Italy next year but that is looking to be off the table at the moment and I have moved my plans to 2022. My son's one way ticket from The Philippines to SA was R32 000. It may be a while before there is enough competition and commercial viability to bring the cost of flights back to pre virus prices.
Hard luck boet. I've also decided to try and save up on leave to do a proper holiday next year. Will take a few days in June just to catch my breath.

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:11 pm
by Sards
sorCrer wrote:
Sards wrote:
sorCrer wrote:
Sards wrote:
I looked into it but its Hellishly Expensive....I think I was quote R 108 000.00 for 4 of us ....for a week
:lol:

WTF is funny...is that peanuts for you????
That is what foreign travel costs these days, boet.
I can't justify that. Maybe I'm just too schnoop. Besides. I an blessed here in the Cape. I can repeat holidays over and still enjoy them. Although they seem a distant memory now.

We are focused on my wife's takeaway. Bringing an extra income is worth more than a holiday right now. And costs are escalating daily. With it growing in size.

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:13 pm
by Sards
handyman wrote:Foreign travel does not have to be expensive. A few years back the wife and I went on an all inclusive holiday to Zanzibar for 7 days for under R 30k for the both of us. Mauritius will set you back about R 40k for 2.

As you can see, I like island/beach holidays 8)
Mauritius for 30 k.....never

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:24 pm
by Wilson's Toffee
Sards wrote:
We are focused on my wife's takeaway. Bringing an extra income is worth more than a holiday right now. And costs are escalating daily. With it growing in size.
That takeaway just might redefine your life. Seeing my neighbour grow and blossom during lockdown is exhilarating.

Another close by business, selling ceilngboards, building materials, is expanding at a rate of knots, after Level 3. And a paint shop - some people still have money to build and renovate.
Good news, it seems.

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:22 pm
by Vleis
assfly wrote:
Sards wrote:I looked into it but its Hellishly Expensive....I think I was quote R 108 000.00 for 4 of us ....for a week
Kenya is a rip-off for tourists. Many see it as a one in a lifetime holiday, and they don't seem to mind paying crazy prices. It doesn't have to be, but you need to know somebody to steer you away from the tourist prices ;)
I was very lucky previously. The first time I visited the Mara, my ex-brother in law got me a great rate at Olonana because he worked for A&K, plus tourism was down as the Mombassa attacks had taken place the year before. The next two visits I stayed at camps owned by a friend (Governors, which was sold a few years ago), so paid mate's rates.

Sards is correct that the rates for tourists in the Mara et al are very high, but they are also high in the smart camps in SA. The costs of maintaining a safari camp with high quality animals is very high - especially due to poaching, etc. A mate owns a smallish camp in the Eastern Cape, which costs him some R500k per month to run. As you can imagine, he is suffering big time during this lockdown with no revenue to offset said expenses.

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:30 pm
by Blake
Botswana is also crazy expensive with their “luxury tourism” strategy.

Had the good fortune of 2 amazing trips there when an uncle was running a camp in the delta a couple of years ago.

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:55 pm
by OupaStruisbaai
Best vibrant holidays in Lagos.

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 8:59 pm
by Vleis
OomPB wrote:Best vibrant holidays in Lagos.
:lol: :lol:

Per a raffle ticket: First prize is a week in Lagos; second prize is two weeks in Lagos.

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:11 am
by assfly
OomPB wrote:Best vibrant holidays in Lagos.
Nigeria is a beautiful country, but it has zero prospects of tourism. Pity that wildlife has been decimated. Perhaps one day they will try and reintroduce it, goodness knows they've got the space and the climate.

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:33 am
by Sards
Blake wrote:Botswana is also crazy expensive with their “luxury tourism” strategy.

Had the good fortune of 2 amazing trips there when an uncle was running a camp in the delta a couple of years ago.
My best location. Twice there too.
Dang but it was hardcore going to work this morning innie Kaap. Woke 06.30 with thunder and then a big downpour. Only the brave

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:34 am
by Sards
assfly wrote:
OomPB wrote:Best vibrant holidays in Lagos.
Nigeria is a beautiful country, but it has zero prospects of tourism. Pity that wildlife has been decimated. Perhaps one day they will try and reintroduce it, goodness knows they've got the space and the climate.
Africa doesn't respect its resources

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:06 am
by Sards
Oh yeah. Nothing better than a steaming hot cuppa pea and ham soup to warm the body and kickstart your day.

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:40 am
by Ali's Choice
So my boets, any idea of when pro-Rugby will restart in South Africa?

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:42 am
by Sandstorm
Ali's Choice wrote:So my boets, any idea of when pro-Rugby will restart in South Africa?
February

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:09 am
by Sards
Sandstorm wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:So my boets, any idea of when pro-Rugby will restart in South Africa?
February
I suppose the rest of the world needs more time than us to catch up.

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:13 am
by OupaStruisbaai
Ali's Choice wrote:So my boets, any idea of when pro-Rugby will restart in South Africa?
August 2020
SA Rugby CEO Jurie Roux confirmed on Monday that the sport’s governing body was planning for their own version of Super Rugby, much like New Zealand’s Super Rugby Aotearoa, to begin in August at the earliest.

However, unlike New Zealand’s competition, which begins with the Highlanders facing the Chiefs in Dunedin this weekend, South Africa’s competition would be held behind closed doors.


The plan hinges heavily, of course, on government’s existing and evolving Covid-19 regulations, which, according to Roux, could allow rugby to return to contact training in Level 2, should all health boxes be ticked.

Professional contact sports were given the amber light to return to non-contact training by the sports, arts and culture minister, Nathi Mthethwa, at the end of May, provided they supplied government with a clear health and safety protocol.


According to Roux SA Rugby submitted a comprehensive 500-page return-to-training and return-to-play protocol to government, which he said was awaiting the green light for non-contact training in "the next couple of days".

Rugby was targeting a return to training by next Monday and they needed a four to six-week period to get players ready to play on the field for competitive rugby, said Roux. If all goes according to plan, Super Rugby could return as early as August.

"Realistically, it’s becoming a bigger chance than it previously was," said Roux.

"Our plan is to have a home-based, truncated, domestic version of Super Rugby for a period of time and then go into a Currie Cup competition as well as an Under-21 competition, following that on with international fixtures, pending a decision on border restrictions.

"Basically, you would have a Super Rugby version, based on the fact that the Kings and the Cheetahs will most likely be unable to travel to the north, with them being part of the competition for that month."

For the most part, it seems rugby has successfully convinced government that the sport is ready to get back to the field sooner than had been anticipated.

Roux said SA Rugby had a couple of contingency scenarios in place to have the competitions staged in either a Johannesburg-based "Bio-Bubble" – as mooted by Rugby Australia and the US’s NBA – or same day travel to game cities by chartered flight.

"The one issue we couldn’t get away from was that we are a contact sport – that’s why we like it, that’s why we’re in the game and that’s what we have to live with. We had to bide our time and go through the process," Roux said.

"Initially we thought we would only return to training somewhere in August and return to play somewhere in September. But since the subsequent announcements by government, we have had some very interesting negotiations with them.

"If government wants us to have a 'Bio-Bubble', we’ll obviously do that, and the most likely venue for it would be Johannesburg, for a number of logistic reasons.

"If that’s not necessary, we’ve got a second plan that will involve certain elements of travel around chartered flights and dedicated hotels. We want the least amount of engagement within the environment. It will almost be a scenario where you fly in the morning for the game, play, and then fly out in the evening."

Springbok Rugby World Cup winners, should the competitions go ahead, would be made available to participate, with the hope that they would be ready for international rugby during the revised October-November Test window.

"The Springboks will absolutely be involved," he said.

"We need them to get back to match fitness, to be slim and trim again after the lockdown and then we need to get them back to being contact fit and game fit, etc."

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:20 am
by Sards
I never got that. The Sharks boys are ready and raring to go...its only thr softcock unions that need to get their players fit.

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:39 pm
by handyman
Let's hope our players make sure they're fit before playing. These games will be high impact, saffer derbies are physical.

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:41 pm
by Lemoentjie
Sards wrote:I never got that. The Sharks boys are ready and raring to go...its only thr softcock unions that need to get their players fit.
Care to share where you got this bit of insider knowledge from?

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:06 pm
by handyman
Lemoentjie wrote:
Sards wrote:I never got that. The Sharks boys are ready and raring to go...its only thr softcock unions that need to get their players fit.
Care to share where you got this bit of insider knowledge from?
It's sards. The man who at the start of covid had a whole process of getting out of his work clothes in the garage before running naked to the shower and now he's regularly braaiing with a group of friends.

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:30 pm
by Sards
handyman wrote:
Lemoentjie wrote:
Sards wrote:I never got that. The Sharks boys are ready and raring to go...its only thr softcock unions that need to get their players fit.
Care to share where you got this bit of insider knowledge from?
It's sards. The man who at the start of covid had a whole process of getting out of his work clothes in the garage before running naked to the shower and now he's regularly braaiing with a group of friends.
Every weekend. Last night was an awesome session. Kids had their girlfriends around...MIL is here every day to see the kids and this afternoon we have a low key session of just one couple for dinner. Its our nature to be sociable. We are careful and do the necessary before everyone is inside. Dude. I get my temperature taken 50 times a day and sanitize my hands so many times a day it's like breathing

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 12:58 pm
by Sandstorm
50 times a day? Must be using a rectal thermometer

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 5:09 pm
by Sards
Sandstorm wrote:50 times a day? Must be using a rectal thermometer
Everywhere you go in you get scanned. I scan before I leave for work and when I get home too. Even our domestic is scanned arriving and leaving.

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:02 pm
by sorCrer
Our local BP Express which was operating this morning and I've been into multiple times this week was boarded up completely and closed for decontamination when I drove past there now. :shock:

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2020 6:07 pm
by Sards
sorCrer wrote:Our local BP Express which was operating this morning and I've been into multiple times this week was boarded up completely and closed for decontamination when I drove past there now. :shock:
That's a grand BP Express. I just struggled getting in and out

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:28 pm
by Blake
Sards wrote:
Sandstorm wrote:50 times a day? Must be using a rectal thermometer
Everywhere you go in you get scanned. I scan before I leave for work and when I get home too. Even our domestic is scanned arriving and leaving.
Won't help for shit when you realise that asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic people shed virus by hey ho. You do you.

At this point in time I'm just hoping people like you get Covid, get well, and get on with your lives.

People like you are a massive risk to the rest of us, becoming "super spreaders" because of your "social nature"...so the sooner we can add you to either the "recovered and hopefully immune" group or the "dead" group, the better for all the rest of us.

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 1:31 pm
by Blake
sorCrer wrote:Our local BP Express which was operating this morning and I've been into multiple times this week was boarded up completely and closed for decontamination when I drove past there now. :shock:
In a 10km radius from my house we've had:
1x Shoprite
2x Checkers
2x Woolworths
1x Spar
1x PnP

All closed down for decontamination due to staff infections in the last 6 weeks.

My company currently has 13 confirmed cases, and 40+ in self-quarantine due to symptoms / exposure.

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:07 pm
by Sards
Blake wrote:
Sards wrote:
Sandstorm wrote:50 times a day? Must be using a rectal thermometer
Everywhere you go in you get scanned. I scan before I leave for work and when I get home too. Even our domestic is scanned arriving and leaving.
Won't help for shit when you realise that asymptomatic and pre-symptomatic people shed virus by hey ho. You do you.

At this point in time I'm just hoping people like you get Covid, get well, and get on with your lives.

People like you are a massive risk to the rest of us, becoming "super spreaders" because of your "social nature"...so the sooner we can add you to either the "recovered and hopefully immune" group or the "dead" group, the better for all the rest of us.

Meeeooouw...dang those claws are sharp.

Dude you are so locked up in your tinfoil palace that you have absolutely no clue whats actually happening in Cape Town....most of us are of the opinion that enough is enough and are getting on with our lives. Obviously cautiously just to make the likes of yourself happy...realizing we are going to reach the peak and then it was start easing more and more. Handyman has my daily routine off pat and it works...I am a huggy type of guy and when I greet I extend my hand to men...other than that I will post every now and again just to let you know which it is...dead or alive.

Dude...when you post on here it sounds like your missus is sounding the words and you are typing them...

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:09 pm
by Sards
Blake wrote:
sorCrer wrote:Our local BP Express which was operating this morning and I've been into multiple times this week was boarded up completely and closed for decontamination when I drove past there now. :shock:
In a 10km radius from my house we've had:
1x Shoprite
2x Checkers
2x Woolworths
1x Spar
1x PnP

All closed down for decontamination due to staff infections in the last 6 weeks.

My company currently has 13 confirmed cases, and 40+ in self-quarantine due to symptoms / exposure.
you better stay away from the office dude...and order your food online and make sure you decontaminate everything before packing away...

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:33 pm
by Chilli
Blake wrote:
sorCrer wrote:Our local BP Express which was operating this morning and I've been into multiple times this week was boarded up completely and closed for decontamination when I drove past there now. :shock:
In a 10km radius from my house we've had:
1x Shoprite
2x Checkers
2x Woolworths
1x Spar
1x PnP

All closed down for decontamination due to staff infections in the last 6 weeks.

My company currently has 13 confirmed cases, and 40+ in self-quarantine due to symptoms / exposure.
We had our first Covid-19 confirmed death in the organisation over the weekend.

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 3:48 pm
by Sards
Chilli wrote:
Blake wrote:
sorCrer wrote:Our local BP Express which was operating this morning and I've been into multiple times this week was boarded up completely and closed for decontamination when I drove past there now. :shock:
In a 10km radius from my house we've had:
1x Shoprite
2x Checkers
2x Woolworths
1x Spar
1x PnP

All closed down for decontamination due to staff infections in the last 6 weeks.

My company currently has 13 confirmed cases, and 40+ in self-quarantine due to symptoms / exposure.
We had our first Covid-19 confirmed death in the organisation over the weekend.
Sad to hear that Chilli...what were the circumstances...?

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 5:05 pm
by Chilli
Sards wrote:
Chilli wrote:
Blake wrote:
sorCrer wrote:Our local BP Express which was operating this morning and I've been into multiple times this week was boarded up completely and closed for decontamination when I drove past there now. :shock:
In a 10km radius from my house we've had:
1x Shoprite
2x Checkers
2x Woolworths
1x Spar
1x PnP

All closed down for decontamination due to staff infections in the last 6 weeks.

My company currently has 13 confirmed cases, and 40+ in self-quarantine due to symptoms / exposure.
We had our first Covid-19 confirmed death in the organisation over the weekend.
Sad to hear that Chilli...what were the circumstances...?
Mother of 3. Is part of a lift club at the Head Office and subsidiary companies . One of the members caught it and obviously spread it to the others. They were all tested and confined. This happened on Wednesday. She passed away on Sunday.

Re: Coronavirus update - South Africa progress

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 8:59 pm
by Blake
Chilli wrote:
Sards wrote:Sad to hear that Chilli...what were the circumstances...?
Mother of 3. Is part of a lift club at the Head Office and subsidiary companies . One of the members caught it and obviously spread it to the others. They were all tested and confined. This happened on Wednesday. She passed away on Sunday.
What he is actually asking is:
“What were her co-morbidities?”

Because he keeps wanting to convince himself that he isn’t at risk.