Which has an asterisk next to ithandyman wrote:No asterisk, but I'm only counting the RWC's from 1995.
Which RWCs have an asterisk?
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he who pays the piper calls the tunesrett wrote:Monk Zombie wrote:plus Bryce Lawrence's handywork in the Bok/Wallaby quarter-finalPeaches wrote:What wins do you think were epic flukes or won by refs?
2011 comes to mind with numerous high tackles on the French missed by the ref in the final (Joubert?).
Frankly I’m very surprised that the Saffers keep bringing this up. A team that prides themselves on their physicality (ahem) failed to overpower one little honest Aussie toiler.
Embarrassing.
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Listen, if your players want to have a drinking binge the night before a final, that is their problem.booze wrote:Which has an asterisk next to ithandyman wrote:No asterisk, but I'm only counting the RWC's from 1995.
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South African rage at Bryce Lawrence is hilarious, especially the truly bizarre accusation of corruption. He simply let everything go at the breakdown (it’s what some refs do in WC playoffs, see Wayne Barnes for other examples) and the Boks couldn’t adapt to it. Everyone remember their porpoise-esque flops into the rucks during that game, which were of course not penalised? I certainly do.
Much like the ABs in 2007, the Boks had their opportunities to win that game and didn’t take them. No ref deserves death threats and to be hounded out of the game because of fans blinkered sense of entitlement, and certainly not for a team that wasn’t going to go any further in the tournament anyway.
Much like the ABs in 2007, the Boks had their opportunities to win that game and didn’t take them. No ref deserves death threats and to be hounded out of the game because of fans blinkered sense of entitlement, and certainly not for a team that wasn’t going to go any further in the tournament anyway.
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No asterisks at all. Games have controversy and issues and the best sides don't always win matches or tournaments.
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Too sane and reasonable for here*blindcider wrote:No asterisks at all. Games have controversy and issues and the best sides don't always win matches or tournaments.
*except 1995 of course. Carm on man, the fix has never been more obviously in

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If we want to be bitter and twisted about dodgy tournament results then Scotlands 99 5 nations win has the biggest of all asterisks as Wales' win over England should have been scratched off due to three ineligible players on the Welsh team...naki wrote:Too sane and reasonable for here*blindcider wrote:No asterisks at all. Games have controversy and issues and the best sides don't always win matches or tournaments.
*except 1995 of course. Carm on man, the fix has never been more obviously in
But thats the nature of sport, clearly the All Blacks (and Kiwi in general) have poor hygiene... Should have washed their hands...
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Corona has nothing on Suzieblindcider wrote:If we want to be bitter and twisted about dodgy tournament results then Scotlands 99 5 nations win has the biggest of all asterisks as Wales' win over England should have been scratched off due to three ineligible players on the Welsh team...naki wrote:Too sane and reasonable for here*blindcider wrote:No asterisks at all. Games have controversy and issues and the best sides don't always win matches or tournaments.
*except 1995 of course. Carm on man, the fix has never been more obviously in
But thats the nature of sport, clearly the All Blacks (and Kiwi in general) have poor hygiene... Should have washed their hands...

But the real victims there were the French. Read up on their ‘95 grievances, they’re mad as hell
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In all honesty, the only truly nutty thing to happen before a final was in 1995.... and then the gold watches and all.
saffas gonna saffa
saffas gonna saffa

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Nobody going to mention England putting 16 men on the pitch at the same time in 2003?
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I remember someone made a bunch of gifs of all the Saffa forwards diving into rucks like they were having a team holiday at a water park.naki wrote:South African rage at Bryce Lawrence is hilarious, especially the truly bizarre accusation of corruption. He simply let everything go at the breakdown (it’s what some refs do in WC playoffs, see Wayne Barnes for other examples) and the Boks couldn’t adapt to it. Everyone remember their porpoise-esque flops into the rucks during that game, which were of course not penalised? I certainly do.
Much like the ABs in 2007, the Boks had their opportunities to win that game and didn’t take them. No ref deserves death threats and to be hounded out of the game because of fans blinkered sense of entitlement, and certainly not for a team that wasn’t going to go any further in the tournament anyway.
The fact they couldn't change their mongtastic gameplan in the second half spoke volumes about the intelligence of the team.
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Well you, obviouslyNew guy wrote:Nobody going to mention England putting 16 men on the pitch at the same time in 2003?
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hmmmmThomas wrote:I remember someone made a bunch of gifs of all the Saffa forwards diving into rucks like they were having a team holiday at a water park.naki wrote:South African rage at Bryce Lawrence is hilarious, especially the truly bizarre accusation of corruption. He simply let everything go at the breakdown (it’s what some refs do in WC playoffs, see Wayne Barnes for other examples) and the Boks couldn’t adapt to it. Everyone remember their porpoise-esque flops into the rucks during that game, which were of course not penalised? I certainly do.
Much like the ABs in 2007, the Boks had their opportunities to win that game and didn’t take them. No ref deserves death threats and to be hounded out of the game because of fans blinkered sense of entitlement, and certainly not for a team that wasn’t going to go any further in the tournament anyway.
The fact they couldn't change their mongtastic gameplan in the second half spoke volumes about the intelligence of the team.
this is not a case of ref making a mistake about a forward pass or off-side player
this is an individual on the cusp of 200 first class matches, who reffed the game differently to the way who normally does
because he had been pressurised
and then there is the small matter of the "forward pass" which he called back to deny a certain try
and then the other small matter of the Boks playing Brüssow with a rib cartilage injury - neatly removed by the Wobs within 5 minutes
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Tbf it wasn’t Lawrence’s fault that that meathead bulls player took the Aussie out in the lineout near the end
Boks were probably a better side - but played stupid rugby -deserved to lose.. a bit like the abs in 2007 Qf
Boks were probably a better side - but played stupid rugby -deserved to lose.. a bit like the abs in 2007 Qf
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imo a better reflection of the sides' strengths would be ABs take WC2007 and the Boks WC2011brat wrote:Tbf it wasn’t Lawrence’s fault that that meathead bulls player took the Aussie out in the lineout near the end
Boks were probably a better side - but played stupid rugby -deserved to lose.. a bit like the abs in 2007 Qf
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Well I think the ab 2007 rwc was the best side ever not to win a rwc- so much talent, and wasted with over confidence and bad tactics under pressureMonk Zombie wrote:imo a better reflection of the sides' strengths would be ABs take WC2007 and the Boks WC2011brat wrote:Tbf it wasn’t Lawrence’s fault that that meathead bulls player took the Aussie out in the lineout near the end
Boks were probably a better side - but played stupid rugby -deserved to lose.. a bit like the abs in 2007 Qf
The boks would’ve has a fair chance on knocking over the abs in the hypothetical semifinal in 2011, however if carter hadn’t been injured it would’ve been an abs win, and the France vs Nz final wouldn’t have been close
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in 2007 there were some marvellous pics of the ABs lolling around in cafes and wearing red berets apparently under instruction from Graham Henry to soak up the atmosphere
made me smile
made me smile
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