Jay Cee Gee wrote:Never had it. Wouldn't bother as Aussie wine all tastes like either Ribena or Miami Wine Cooler.Slim 293 wrote:That was too easy Mog...
Give it a few days, and start a thread about South Australian sauv blanc.
Bullseye!
Jay Cee Gee wrote:Never had it. Wouldn't bother as Aussie wine all tastes like either Ribena or Miami Wine Cooler.Slim 293 wrote:That was too easy Mog...
Give it a few days, and start a thread about South Australian sauv blanc.
Copenhagen bakery in Christchurch do excellent pies. They aren't cheap though.RuggaBugga wrote:Isn't the required meat content for a pie much lower in Aus than in NZ?
Anyway we need recommendations here to give us light at the end of the Covid tunnel. A good Pie Crawl would do the trick.
In Wellington the New World On Willis Street actually does really nice pies. Also Trisha's pies on Cambridge Terrace.
Slim 293 wrote:Jay Cee Gee wrote:Never had it. Wouldn't bother as Aussie wine all tastes like either Ribena or Miami Wine Cooler.Slim 293 wrote:That was too easy Mog...
Give it a few days, and start a thread about South Australian sauv blanc.
Bullseye!
That's the wrong way to think about in NZ, you could find a great pie at the local bakery and/or dairy (convenience store), supermarket, even petrol stations etc - if you go looking for pie shops only you're doing yourself a disservice.Caley_Red wrote:S*it they may be but they're open after midnight in Sydney which means they're amongst the premier cuisine available after pubs.CrazyIslander wrote:Yeah they're shit though I still buy one if I come across them and wanting a pie. One time they were putting mashed peas on top. I asked the girl wth did she put the peas on top? She gave me a free pie though I would've preferred a blowjob.kiwinoz wrote:Australia has the Pieface chain which make disgusting pies (pastry particularly) and its still going. Perhaps Mog is right the pie defines Australia - its just not the best pies.
Australian pies are decent (special mention for Bourke St Bakery steak and red wine) but the sausage rolls are an abomination, much like sausages themselves.
Haven't been to NZ yet but I have several pie shops saved on Google Maps taken from various threads on here.
Villis would make the best packaged pies, I always get one at the Villis 24hr takeaway at Richmond from airport to my families' place.Brumbie_Steve wrote:Ghost-Of-Nepia wrote:To be fair, this also looks like a pie floater:kiap wrote:I don't mind pasties.UncleFB wrote:You win. The pasties that is, no one but the Cornish want to win that competition.grievous wrote:Great thread MOG its got the Kiwis off their chairs claiming a contest that can't be won.
Anyway I'm a pasty man.
... But where did the Cornish go to in oz? That's right, South Australia.
I'm sure good pasties can be found there, but for pies? Well, they serve up that abomination known as the "pie floater"
Bindi wrote:King of pies:
A pie floater, now you're talking!! Better drunk food than a kebab or pizza. A lot of great pies got killed by four n twenty style mass production and homogenisation. Off the top of my head I can think of 4 great pies that aren't made any more (in Adelaide). Gibbs, Cowleys, DeSouza and Mayfair. Balfours aren't what they were either.
A proper pie floater has the pie upside down, soup made from Blue boiling peas, Rosella Tomato sauce injected into the pie, a little vinegar in the soup sprinkle with pepper and go for it.
Thanks for the link!!Nieghorn wrote:Mog The Almighty wrote:I was planning on just buying frozen puff pastry, if that's what you mean...Nieghorn wrote:naki wrote:I baked a steak pie for the family yesterday. It took hours and I really enjoyed it, flicking flour at the kids and listening to Physical Graffiti in its entirety.
It tasted like absolute shit. Never again. Somebody lift this house arrest, please![]()
Know where you went wrong? I probably botched a good half dozen pie crusts before I got the hang.
Mog, you doing your own crust? Proper art that is. Keeping everything cool and not mixing too much keeps things separate = flakier.
Not too difficult ... first person in the review has some good tips for getting the best out of it (over-working can make it tough and chewy). https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/24094 ... pie-crust/
It might just be a North American thing (our pies suck compared to even an NZ petrol station!), but our frozen pie shells tend to be thin. I can't think that I've ever seen one ready-made that's thick and flaky like a proper baker makes.
Slim 293 wrote:Jay Cee Gee wrote:Never had it. Wouldn't bother as Aussie wine all tastes like either Ribena or Miami Wine Cooler.Slim 293 wrote:That was too easy Mog...
Give it a few days, and start a thread about South Australian sauv blanc.
Bullseye!
Mog The Almighty wrote:If there's one thing Aussies do consistently well it's Pinot Noir and Pavolova.
If I had a dog I wouldn't even feed it a pie from Harry's let alone myself. What kind of monster are you?grievous wrote:Great thread MOG its got the Kiwis off their chairs claiming a contest that can't be won.
In Sydney there is always Harry's Cafe de Wheels, world famous.
They do a pie floater type with a drier mushy peas and mash on top
https://www.harryscafedewheels.com.au
Tussock wrote:Think it's a shortcrust pastry (not a baker so not familiar with the terms) but probably similar to the english pork pie crust.bimboman wrote:and a boiled pastry that isn't flaky.
Eh?
sorCrer wrote:Mash and mushy peas with a pie?
The pie shop I used to go to in Deptford owed last year.bimboman wrote:sorCrer wrote:Mash and mushy peas with a pie?
Mash, stewed ells and Liquor is better.
Yeah, apparently it's a thing but it adds nothing IMOsorCrer wrote:Mash and mushy peas with a pie?
You Kiwis are trying too hard, its a fvcking pie. Comfort food.Kahu wrote:If I had a dog I wouldn't even feed it a pie from Harry's let alone myself. What kind of monster are you?grievous wrote:Great thread MOG its got the Kiwis off their chairs claiming a contest that can't be won.
In Sydney there is always Harry's Cafe de Wheels, world famous.
They do a pie floater type with a drier mushy peas and mash on top
https://www.harryscafedewheels.com.au
Yeah I always thought pie face were alright without being mind-blowing. They were much better than a servo-pie but not as good as a proper boutique bakery pie. But still a totally serviceable pie.jdogscoop wrote:Pie Face had its place. I was desperately in need of a savoury snack in between the end of a normal workday and a webinar I had to run the other month and there it was, in all its modesty on Exhibition St. As it was the end of the day I got a full 10% off my selection, too.
It was tasty, without blowing my mind. 7/10 WDB.
(Blow. On pie).
Gone now.
Suppose it will be something like the following.bimboman wrote:Tussock wrote:Think it's a shortcrust pastry (not a baker so not familiar with the terms) but probably similar to the english pork pie crust.bimboman wrote:and a boiled pastry that isn't flaky.
Eh?
The pasty in a pork pie is still baked, it’s made with lard and Hot water but not “boiled”. Shortcrust is heavy fat (shortening) and dry not folded.
Mog The Almighty wrote:Yeah I always thought pie face were alright without being mind-blowing. They were much better than a servo-pie but not as good as a proper boutique bakery pie. But still a totally serviceable pie.jdogscoop wrote:Pie Face had its place. I was desperately in need of a savoury snack in between the end of a normal workday and a webinar I had to run the other month and there it was, in all its modesty on Exhibition St. As it was the end of the day I got a full 10% off my selection, too.
It was tasty, without blowing my mind. 7/10 WDB.
(Blow. On pie).
Gone now.
There was a little bakery in Cardiff, Newcastle (NSW, Australia) that won best pie in NSW a few years in a row, they made a killer tomato & onion pie. The best.
You can add the Coniston Bakery to that in Wollongong. They are fantastic!Pat the Ex Mat wrote:Near to Sydney, the best pie shops are:
Long Reef Pies
Pie in the Sky Robertson
Heatherbrae pies (Newcastle and Bundanoon services)
Annandale - most filled pie I've had anywhere
Georgie Pie was owned by Progressive Enterprises (Countdown) the NZ subsidiary or Woolworth's Australia. They no doubt made a tidy profit selling it to McDonald's.Fat Old Git wrote:I'm not sure Pie Face is cheap and nasty enough to be in the same league as Georgie Pie. (Shudders)Zakar wrote:Yes. Pie Face.Jay Cee Gee wrote:Answer me this, MOG - has Australia had a national fast food chain devoted to meat pies?
Thinly-veiled "I have a girlfriend" post.Man In Black wrote:I thought I was out. My bags were nearly packed for a move to LA. But then the missus got offered a new job so it looks like I’ll be here a while yet!jdogscoop wrote:Ten years in London? Jeeeeeesus. You must be a very patient man (in black).Man In Black wrote:Lining up for food is very common in London. Even after 10 years here I still find it strange. Lining up for brunch!UncleFB wrote:I used to walk past their every day but never tried one of their sausage rolls and last had a pie there in 2007 when on holiday and I was introduced to lining up for food and thought WTF.Man In Black wrote:Not to get too parochial but NZ pies are just so far and away better than Australian it’s not even funny. It’s kinda like the All Blacks v Wallabies. The Wallabies might be better than the English but they’re always in the ABs shadow.
Now sausage rolls in the other hand... the best one I ever ate was at the Bourke St bakery in Sydney.
Had the odd coffee and bought a few breads there for staff morning teas though.
Decent pies are too expensive in Oz to give anyone comfort, and Pie Face only gives comfort to the toilet paper companies.grievous wrote:You Kiwis are trying too hard, its a fvcking pie. Comfort food.Kahu wrote:If I had a dog I wouldn't even feed it a pie from Harry's let alone myself. What kind of monster are you?grievous wrote:Great thread MOG its got the Kiwis off their chairs claiming a contest that can't be won.
In Sydney there is always Harry's Cafe de Wheels, world famous.
They do a pie floater type with a drier mushy peas and mash on top
https://www.harryscafedewheels.com.au
Mog The Almighty wrote:Originally, yes. Like the Ashes. But we took them, improved them, and made them our own.Keith wrote:Pies are English, end of. The best pies can be found in Doncaster, South Yorkshire https://www.toppingspies.co.uk/
You see it’s this sort of attitude that will never see you at the top of the pie chain, it’s the same attitude endemic in your rugby, how do ever hope to competegrievous wrote:You Kiwis are trying too hard, its a fvcking pie. Comfort food.Kahu wrote:If I had a dog I wouldn't even feed it a pie from Harry's let alone myself. What kind of monster are you?grievous wrote:Great thread MOG its got the Kiwis off their chairs claiming a contest that can't be won.
In Sydney there is always Harry's Cafe de Wheels, world famous.
They do a pie floater type with a drier mushy peas and mash on top
https://www.harryscafedewheels.com.au
The ones I've had are like plain meat pies with some slices of tomato and onion on top, under the lid. But it makes a big difference to the taste.Chilli wrote:Can someone please post a photo and recipe for a tomato and onion pie. All that I can find on the internet are more like tarts or baked in a tray with pastry on top.
Does it make them taste of tomato and onion?Mog The Almighty wrote:The ones I've had are like plain meat pies with some slices of tomato and onion on top, under the lid. But it makes a big difference to the taste.Chilli wrote:Can someone please post a photo and recipe for a tomato and onion pie. All that I can find on the internet are more like tarts or baked in a tray with pastry on top.
Also, the one I got the photo in the OP. They make some weird pies all right. I had to Emu pie but I wish I got the crocodile pie. The Emu pie was indistinguishable from a plain meat pie, but it was still good. Although judging by their signs in the OP, like many small Australian business owners, they don't seem to know what inverted commas are for.Pat the Ex Mat wrote:Near to Sydney, the best pie shops are:
Long Reef Pies
Pie in the Sky Robertson
Heatherbrae pies (Newcastle and Bundanoon services)
Annandale - most filled pie I've had anywhere
Just a hint, yeah. I shouldn't say, "a big difference". A small but noticeable difference.frillage wrote:Does it make them taste of tomato and onion?Mog The Almighty wrote:The ones I've had are like plain meat pies with some slices of tomato and onion on top, under the lid. But it makes a big difference to the taste.Chilli wrote:Can someone please post a photo and recipe for a tomato and onion pie. All that I can find on the internet are more like tarts or baked in a tray with pastry on top.
Mog The Almighty wrote:The ones I've had are like plain meat pies with some slices of tomato and onion on top, under the lid. But it makes a big difference to the taste.Chilli wrote:Can someone please post a photo and recipe for a tomato and onion pie. All that I can find on the internet are more like tarts or baked in a tray with pastry on top.
Don't get it with Yatala Pie shop, it about 10 minutes down the road, I pass it coming home from work most days, but just don't bother.Bindi wrote:King of pies:
Not so much a pub as a "fair dinkum outback pub experience". Hmm.grievous wrote:Great story here, pie based. Very NT.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-07/ ... ah/9843756
Paddy used to drink here.
https://larrimahwaysideinn.wordpress.com
I was driving through last year and stopped and had a drink, its an interesting pub. Spoke to the cook there and asked him what he thought happened to Paddy. He said, "Probably ended up in one of Frans's pies!"
And Id believe it.