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Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:22 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
Floppykid wrote:
ScarfaceClaw wrote:
Floppykid wrote:How stupid do you have to believe we have this amazing technology?
A tower that an beam viruses into people's systems?
Wait. It’s doing what?!?!
Isn't that what the 5G conspiracy loons believe?
That or it's some radiation emitting device that causes all the symptoms of Corona (which must include the virus)
The take I’d heard was that vaccinations included essentially nano technology viruses that would kill the host when triggered by the “kill” command. The lizard overlords (top bunch of lads and lasses and erm lizardettes) are using 5G to target individuals.

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:24 pm
by CM11
ScarfaceClaw wrote:
Floppykid wrote:
ScarfaceClaw wrote:
Floppykid wrote:How stupid do you have to believe we have this amazing technology?
A tower that an beam viruses into people's systems?
Wait. It’s doing what?!?!
Isn't that what the 5G conspiracy loons believe?
That or it's some radiation emitting device that causes all the symptoms of Corona (which must include the virus)
The take I’d heard was that vaccinations included essentially nano technology viruses that would kill the host when triggered by the “kill” command. The lizard overlords (top bunch of lads and lasses and erm lizardettes) are using 5G to target individuals.
After their attempt to use 4g failed.

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:27 pm
by Floppykid
It's funny, in their desperation for the world to make sense/humans to have some sort of agency over things, they come up with this hair brained nonsense.

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:42 pm
by ScarfaceClaw
CM11 wrote:
ScarfaceClaw wrote:
Floppykid wrote:
ScarfaceClaw wrote:
Floppykid wrote:How stupid do you have to believe we have this amazing technology?
A tower that an beam viruses into people's systems?
Wait. It’s doing what?!?!
Isn't that what the 5G conspiracy loons believe?
That or it's some radiation emitting device that causes all the symptoms of Corona (which must include the virus)
The take I’d heard was that vaccinations included essentially nano technology viruses that would kill the host when triggered by the “kill” command. The lizard overlords (top bunch of lads and lasses and erm lizardettes) are using 5G to target individuals.
After their attempt to use 4g failed.
It didn’t have enough g for the right genome sequencing.

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:43 pm
by PUMITA
Floppykid wrote:How stupid do you have to believe we have this amazing technology?
A tower that an beam viruses into people's systems?
Trump level perhaps ?

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:05 pm
by Nolanator
Floppykid wrote:It's funny, in their desperation for the world to make sense/humans to have some sort of agency over things, they come up with this hair brained nonsense.
It used to be gods controlling everything, now it's massive conspiracies.

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:21 pm
by 6.Jones
kiwinoz wrote:here is a report on 4g/3g/2g which showed recommended 4G safe levels could be easily exceeded. The testing protocols etc seems reasonable.
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/9016183

5G is higher frequency and so many more towers are needed (mesh vs beacon) but some of the comments from https://emfacademy.com/5g-radiation/#studies with links suggest 5G is a bit different.
“There is a substantial body of evidence that this technology is harmful to humans and the environment. The 5G millimeter wave is known to heat the eyes, skin, and testes… Of particular concern are the most vulnerable among us — the unborn, children, the infirm, the elderly and the disabled. It is also expected that populations of bees and birds will drastically decline.” –Letter from oncologist Lennart Hardell MD & Colleagues

“A growing body of scientific literature documents evidence of nonthermal cellular damage from non-ionizing wireless radiation used in telecommunications. This RF EMR has been shown to cause an array of adverse effects on DNA integrity, cellular membranes, gene expression, protein synthesis, neuronal function, the blood-brain barrier, melatonin production, sperm damage, and immune dysfunction”. –Dr. Cindy Russell 2018 paper entitled “5 G wireless telecommunications expansion: Public health and environmental implications.”

“This is a unique situation in the history of the humankind when the whole human population will be exposed to man-made devices emitting non-ionizing radiation that was insufficiently tested before deployment. What is and what will be the responsibility of the scientists, decision-makers and industry leaders who permit deployment of insufficiently tested technology that will affect us all? The answer is simple – no responsibility… because if any health problems will show up in the future, these will most likely take tens of years of time to manifest and, by then the persons that currently enable deployment of insufficiently tested radiation-emitting 5G technology will be retired or the proverbial ‘six feet under.’” -Dr. Darius Leszczynski, July 18th, 2018 in Assumption of Safety for 5G by Government Agencies, No Science.
If we easily exceed 4G safe levels now and are expected to exceed 5G then faster downloads of pron may come at a cost.
A quick fact check shows EMF Academy is a website about the dangers of EMF radiation. They sell products, including the Q-Link® pendant, the world's most popular, best loved and trusted 'human energy product'. Lennart Hardell is a leading phone cancer link enthusiast. That doesn't mean he's wrong, only that he has motive. And the Russell 2018 paper is about phone users, not towers. None of it is evidence that 5g is dangerous.

The evidence that *phones* may fry your brain is better, but insufficient. If so, we're already frying our brains.

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:12 pm
by MrJonno
CM11 wrote:
ScarfaceClaw wrote:
Floppykid wrote:
ScarfaceClaw wrote:
Floppykid wrote:How stupid do you have to believe we have this amazing technology?
A tower that an beam viruses into people's systems?
Wait. It’s doing what?!?!
Isn't that what the 5G conspiracy loons believe?
That or it's some radiation emitting device that causes all the symptoms of Corona (which must include the virus)
The take I’d heard was that vaccinations included essentially nano technology viruses that would kill the host when triggered by the “kill” command. The lizard overlords (top bunch of lads and lasses and erm lizardettes) are using 5G to target individuals.
After their attempt to use 4g failed.

The superbaddies have gotten out of sync, we'll be OK until they get to 19G, then we're all fvcked.... unless of course by that stage we're dealing with covid34 or whatever when it will only screw up the global economy...... hold on, don't these guys want to be rich?

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 6:24 pm
by nuffsaid
Nolanator wrote:
Floppykid wrote:It's funny, in their desperation for the world to make sense/humans to have some sort of agency over things, they come up with this hair brained nonsense.
It used to be gods controlling everything, now it's massive conspiracies.
Quite shrewd, that. Both generate illogical hysteria to varying degrees.

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:17 pm
by Floppykid
Bit unfair on religion.

Religion usually had the greatest minds earnestly devoted to its construction.

Quite the opposite with 5G towers activating the gay frog Sleeper agents on behalf of the Jews....sorry I mean "banking elite".

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:38 pm
by Nolanator
I meant more from the perspective of thick people making up ridiculous scenarios to explain things that they experience, but don't understand.

The great minds devoted to religion came long after religion was mainstream.

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:06 pm
by obelixtim
History is littered with humans introducing products, cures and solutions touted to be safe which in hindsight proved to be not so safe.

Arsenic and mercury previously used in medicine and dentistry.

DDT, Dioxin, and other chemicals used as herbicides and pest control.

Radiation....the soldiers and sailors who witnessed at close hand the early A bomb tests.

Introduction of alien plants and animals into environments not able to cope with them.

Are just a few examples of the scientists and experts of the time proclaiming that its all good.
You can't blame people for being a bit sceptical of these "reassurances" of the safety of 5G, especially when it is driven by commercial interests. Sure some of the conspiracy theorists belong to the flat earth society, but plenty of thinking people are also urging caution. Because no one knows the long term effects of exposure to these influences. Radiation is a known hazard.

And the question should be asked, do we actually need this? Communications are pretty damn good now. How much communication is enough?

I'm against them simply because the towers are a blot on the landscape, just like those ugly wind turbines.

Our grand children may well be wishing a pox on all these experts in 50 years time.

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:19 pm
by CM11
Being against 5G isn't the point. It could well be a bad thing (although I've seen no evidence yet to suggest so) but it doesn't cause covid, ffs, so just fúck off with your 'history has shown' crap. These people aren't saying something new might be dangerous. They're literally saying viruses don't exist (well one part, the other part are saying this particular virus isn't actually a virus).

So, again, with emphasis, fúck off with trying to persuade gullible people that 5G had anything to do with this because said gullible people are putting others at risk for believing same.

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:23 pm
by Leinsterman
CM11 wrote:Being against 5G isn't the point. It could well be a bad thing (although I've seen no evidence yet to suggest so) but it doesn't cause covid, ffs, so just fúck off with your 'history has shown' crap. These people aren't saying something new might be dangerous. They're literally saying viruses don't exist (well one part, the other part are saying this particular virus isn't actually a virus).

So, again, with emphasis, fúck off with trying to persuade gullible people that 5G had anything to do with this because said gullible people are putting others at risk for believing same.
What's even funnier is he's probably used a mobile device to make that post.

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:27 pm
by obelixtim
Floppykid wrote:How stupid do you have to believe we have this amazing technology?
A tower that an beam viruses into people's systems?



How stupid do you have to be to think that's what all the naysayers are saying? Some people maybe, but not all.

Most concern is that radiation lowers the immune system, and make people less resistant to infection, any infection. Its what radiation does to cancer sufferers while killing the cancer cells, and why over exposure to Xrays is harmful. No one really knows the harm radiation from these towers can cause, so they are being cautious.

It may not prove to be that amazing after all. But we won't know that till sometime in the future.

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:29 pm
by Floppykid
obelixtim wrote:
Floppykid wrote:How stupid do you have to believe we have this amazing technology?
A tower that an beam viruses into people's systems?



How stupid do you have to be to think that's what all the naysayers are saying? Some people maybe, but not all.

Most concern is that radiation lowers the immune system, and make people less resistant to infection, any infection. Its what radiation does to cancer sufferers while killing the cancer cells, and why over exposure to Xrays is harmful. No one really knows the harm radiation from these towers can cause, so they are being cautious.

It may not prove to be that amazing after all. But we won't know that till sometime in the future.
:lol:
Holy shit.

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:42 pm
by Couch
I wouldn't trust any tech company on the health of your body.

Even living next to a power transformer has significant EMF effects on your health and home electronics. One can only imagine what 5 mm Microwaves will do to your cells. Radio frequencies can be proved dangerous, hell Tesla could use frequencies to move objects!

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:43 pm
by A5D5E5
obelixtim wrote:
Floppykid wrote:How stupid do you have to believe we have this amazing technology?
A tower that an beam viruses into people's systems?



How stupid do you have to be to think that's what all the naysayers are saying? Some people maybe, but not all.

Most concern is that radiation lowers the immune system, and make people less resistant to infection, any infection. Its what radiation does to cancer sufferers while killing the cancer cells, and why over exposure to Xrays is harmful. No one really knows the harm radiation from these towers can cause, so they are being cautious.

It may not prove to be that amazing after all. But we won't know that till sometime in the future.
Do you use a mobile phone? Do you listen to the radio? Do you watch TV? Do you have wi-fi in your house? Do you use a microwave? Do you ever go outside?

Why be cautious about 5G and not any of the other common sources of electromagnetic radiation?

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:44 pm
by A5D5E5
Couch wrote:I wouldn't trust any tech company on the health of your body.

Even living next to a power transformer has significant EMF effects on your health and home electronics. One can only imagine what 5 mm Microwaves will do to your cells. Radio frequencies can be proved dangerous, hell Tesla could use frequencies to move objects!
So you would refuse admission to a hospital then? Just rely on leeches and crystals?

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:49 pm
by TB63
obelixtim wrote:
Floppykid wrote:How stupid do you have to believe we have this amazing technology?
A tower that an beam viruses into people's systems?



How stupid do you have to be to think that's what all the naysayers are saying? Some people maybe, but not all.

Most concern is that radiation lowers the immune system, and make people less resistant to infection, any infection. Its what radiation does to cancer sufferers while killing the cancer cells, and why over exposure to Xrays is harmful. No one really knows the harm radiation from these towers can cause, so they are being cautious.

It may not prove to be that amazing after all. But we won't know that till sometime in the future.
Before you post crap like that, look into the difference between ionising and non ionising radiation.. Guess which one 5g uses Trump lite..

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 11:58 pm
by Floppykid
A5D5E5 wrote:
Couch wrote:I wouldn't trust any tech company on the health of your body.

Even living next to a power transformer has significant EMF effects on your health and home electronics. One can only imagine what 5 mm Microwaves will do to your cells. Radio frequencies can be proved dangerous, hell Tesla could use frequencies to move objects!
So you would refuse admission to a hospital then? Just rely on leeches and crystals?
Wait till he finds out who builds/innovates MRI machines. :lol:

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:08 am
by Nolanator
obelixtim wrote:History is littered with humans introducing products, cures and solutions touted to be safe which in hindsight proved to be not so safe.

Arsenic and mercury previously used in medicine and dentistry.

DDT, Dioxin, and other chemicals used as herbicides and pest control.

Radiation....the soldiers and sailors who witnessed at close hand the early A bomb tests.

Introduction of alien plants and animals into environments not able to cope with them.

Are just a few examples of the scientists and experts of the time proclaiming that its all good.
You can't blame people for being a bit sceptical of these "reassurances" of the safety of 5G, especially when it is driven by commercial interests. Sure some of the conspiracy theorists belong to the flat earth society, but plenty of thinking people are also urging caution. Because no one knows the long term effects of exposure to these influences. Radiation is a known hazard.

And the question should be asked, do we actually need this? Communications are pretty damn good now. How much communication is enough?

I'm against them simply because the towers are a blot on the landscape, just like those ugly wind turbines.

Our grand children may well be wishing a pox on all these experts in 50 years time.
fudge off you loon.

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 12:19 am
by CM11
Leinsterman wrote:
CM11 wrote:Being against 5G isn't the point. It could well be a bad thing (although I've seen no evidence yet to suggest so) but it doesn't cause covid, ffs, so just fúck off with your 'history has shown' crap. These people aren't saying something new might be dangerous. They're literally saying viruses don't exist (well one part, the other part are saying this particular virus isn't actually a virus).

So, again, with emphasis, fúck off with trying to persuade gullible people that 5G had anything to do with this because said gullible people are putting others at risk for believing same.
What's even funnier is he's probably used a mobile device to make that post.
Well he hasn't denied it yet, so that's proof enough for me.

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 1:41 am
by obelixtim
CM11 wrote:
Leinsterman wrote:
CM11 wrote:Being against 5G isn't the point. It could well be a bad thing (although I've seen no evidence yet to suggest so) but it doesn't cause covid, ffs, so just fúck off with your 'history has shown' crap. These people aren't saying something new might be dangerous. They're literally saying viruses don't exist (well one part, the other part are saying this particular virus isn't actually a virus).

So, again, with emphasis, fúck off with trying to persuade gullible people that 5G had anything to do with this because said gullible people are putting others at risk for believing same.
What's even funnier is he's probably used a mobile device to make that post.
Well he hasn't denied it yet, so that's proof enough for me.
I specifically said the "5G causes Covid" idea belongs to the flat earth nutbars. Can you not read and understand plain English?

My mobile is one of the least utilized devices I own. Its definitely not surgically attached. It sits on a shelf, and I never carry it around. Don´t need it . And what I posted is not actually my view. Its just a bunch of thoughts about how other people might regard some of the technology that`s being touted.

PR nobs who can´t discern thoughts on ideas others may hold, from strongly held personal opinions. Thick on the ground here, with thick being the operative word.

Personally I am neutral, but the argument is more of the want v need variety. Definitely no Luddite.

As I said, my main objection is that the towers are an eyesore. Like wind turbines are good for the environment, but a blot on the landscape. Its possible to hold that as a valid point of view.

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 1:57 am
by obelixtim
TB63 wrote:
obelixtim wrote:
Floppykid wrote:How stupid do you have to believe we have this amazing technology?
A tower that an beam viruses into people's systems?



How stupid do you have to be to think that's what all the naysayers are saying? Some people maybe, but not all.

Most concern is that radiation lowers the immune system, and make people less resistant to infection, any infection. Its what radiation does to cancer sufferers while killing the cancer cells, and why over exposure to Xrays is harmful. No one really knows the harm radiation from these towers can cause, so they are being cautious.

It may not prove to be that amazing after all. But we won't know that till sometime in the future.
Before you post crap like that, look into the difference between ionising and non ionising radiation.. Guess which one 5g uses Trump lite..
Forgive me. I didn´t realise 5G uses the good radiation. Thats all cool then…

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 2:06 am
by obelixtim
Nolanator wrote:
obelixtim wrote:History is littered with humans introducing products, cures and solutions touted to be safe which in hindsight proved to be not so safe.

Arsenic and mercury previously used in medicine and dentistry.

DDT, Dioxin, and other chemicals used as herbicides and pest control.

Radiation....the soldiers and sailors who witnessed at close hand the early A bomb tests.

Introduction of alien plants and animals into environments not able to cope with them.

Are just a few examples of the scientists and experts of the time proclaiming that its all good.
You can't blame people for being a bit sceptical of these "reassurances" of the safety of 5G, especially when it is driven by commercial interests. Sure some of the conspiracy theorists belong to the flat earth society, but plenty of thinking people are also urging caution. Because no one knows the long term effects of exposure to these influences. Radiation is a known hazard.

And the question should be asked, do we actually need this? Communications are pretty damn good now. How much communication is enough?

I'm against them simply because the towers are a blot on the landscape, just like those ugly wind turbines.

Our grand children may well be wishing a pox on all these experts in 50 years time.
fudge off you loon.
There is a quote somewhere that states something along the lines of learning from the lessons of history and repeating them. I guess that wisdom hasn´t reached your part of the planet.

Are you seriously suggesting man hasn´t made many cock ups in the past? In the name of progress?

And he is now somehow infallible?

FFS!

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 3:59 am
by MrJonno
obelixtim wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
obelixtim wrote:History is littered with humans introducing products, cures and solutions touted to be safe which in hindsight proved to be not so safe.

Arsenic and mercury previously used in medicine and dentistry.

DDT, Dioxin, and other chemicals used as herbicides and pest control.

Radiation....the soldiers and sailors who witnessed at close hand the early A bomb tests.

Introduction of alien plants and animals into environments not able to cope with them.

Are just a few examples of the scientists and experts of the time proclaiming that its all good.
You can't blame people for being a bit sceptical of these "reassurances" of the safety of 5G, especially when it is driven by commercial interests. Sure some of the conspiracy theorists belong to the flat earth society, but plenty of thinking people are also urging caution. Because no one knows the long term effects of exposure to these influences. Radiation is a known hazard.

And the question should be asked, do we actually need this? Communications are pretty damn good now. How much communication is enough?

I'm against them simply because the towers are a blot on the landscape, just like those ugly wind turbines.

Our grand children may well be wishing a pox on all these experts in 50 years time.
fudge off you loon.
There is a quote somewhere that states something along the lines of learning from the lessons of history and repeating them. I guess that wisdom hasn´t reached your part of the planet.

Are you seriously suggesting man hasn´t made many cock ups in the past? In the name of progress?

And he is now somehow infallible?

FFS!
So who exactly suggested that?



Looks like we have another one

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:07 am
by koroke hangareka
obelixtim wrote:
TB63 wrote:
obelixtim wrote:
Floppykid wrote:How stupid do you have to believe we have this amazing technology?
A tower that an beam viruses into people's systems?



How stupid do you have to be to think that's what all the naysayers are saying? Some people maybe, but not all.

Most concern is that radiation lowers the immune system, and make people less resistant to infection, any infection. Its what radiation does to cancer sufferers while killing the cancer cells, and why over exposure to Xrays is harmful. No one really knows the harm radiation from these towers can cause, so they are being cautious.

It may not prove to be that amazing after all. But we won't know that till sometime in the future.
Before you post crap like that, look into the difference between ionising and non ionising radiation.. Guess which one 5g uses Trump lite..
Forgive me. I didn´t realise 5G uses the good radiation. Thats all cool then…
Hmm. No, you're right. There is no good radiation. Better close your eyes.

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 4:43 am
by Slim 293
obelixtim wrote:
TB63 wrote:
obelixtim wrote:
Floppykid wrote:How stupid do you have to believe we have this amazing technology?
A tower that an beam viruses into people's systems?



How stupid do you have to be to think that's what all the naysayers are saying? Some people maybe, but not all.

Most concern is that radiation lowers the immune system, and make people less resistant to infection, any infection. Its what radiation does to cancer sufferers while killing the cancer cells, and why over exposure to Xrays is harmful. No one really knows the harm radiation from these towers can cause, so they are being cautious.

It may not prove to be that amazing after all. But we won't know that till sometime in the future.
Before you post crap like that, look into the difference between ionising and non ionising radiation.. Guess which one 5g uses Trump lite..
Forgive me. I didn´t realise 5G uses the good radiation. Thats all cool then…

Please tell me, how long have the mole people been living underground?

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:52 am
by obelixtim
Beep.

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:53 am
by obelixtim
MrJonno wrote:
obelixtim wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
obelixtim wrote:History is littered with humans introducing products, cures and solutions touted to be safe which in hindsight proved to be not so safe.

Arsenic and mercury previously used in medicine and dentistry.

DDT, Dioxin, and other chemicals used as herbicides and pest control.

Radiation....the soldiers and sailors who witnessed at close hand the early A bomb tests.

Introduction of alien plants and animals into environments not able to cope with them.

Are just a few examples of the scientists and experts of the time proclaiming that its all good.
You can't blame people for being a bit sceptical of these "reassurances" of the safety of 5G, especially when it is driven by commercial interests. Sure some of the conspiracy theorists belong to the flat earth society, but plenty of thinking people are also urging caution. Because no one knows the long term effects of exposure to these influences. Radiation is a known hazard.

And the question should be asked, do we actually need this? Communications are pretty damn good now. How much communication is enough?

I'm against them simply because the towers are a blot on the landscape, just like those ugly wind turbines.

Our grand children may well be wishing a pox on all these experts in 50 years time.
fudge off you loon.
There is a quote somewhere that states something along the lines of learning from the lessons of history and repeating them. I guess that wisdom hasn´t reached your part of the planet.

Are you seriously suggesting man hasn´t made many cock ups in the past? In the name of progress?

And he is now somehow infallible?

FFS!
So who exactly suggested that?


Looks like we have another one
CM11.
so just fúck off with your 'history has shown' crap.
He obviously thinks we have nothing to learn from cock ups from the past.

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:00 am
by UncleFB
Demilich wrote:Seems that "Bill Gates is trying to kill us" might be going to out-perform "5G is trying to kill us" in the conspiracy theory stakes this week.
I thought Bill Gates designed 5G to give us all Corona and the ones who don’t get Corona he’ll infect with the vaccine he created.

In reality he’ll likely kill me when I jump out the window while waiting for yet another update to Word.

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 6:04 am
by obelixtim
UncleFB wrote:
Demilich wrote:Seems that "Bill Gates is trying to kill us" might be going to out-perform "5G is trying to kill us" in the conspiracy theory stakes this week.
I thought Bill Gates designed 5G to give us all Corona and the ones who don’t get Corona he’ll infect with the vaccine he created.

In reality he’ll likely kill me when I jump out the window while waiting for yet another update to Word.
Or while waiting for intelligent life on the bored who can tell the difference between discussion points and conspiracy theorists.

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:59 am
by Demilich
obelixtim wrote:Or while waiting for intelligent life on the bored who can tell the difference between discussion points and conspiracy theorists.
You posted this:
Most concern is that radiation lowers the immune system, and make people less resistant to infection, any infection. Its what radiation does to cancer sufferers while killing the cancer cells, and why over exposure to Xrays is harmful. No one really knows the harm radiation from these towers can cause, so they are being cautious.
UV radiation has been found to INCREASE the immune system, not lower it. And that is many orders of magnitude higher than the radiation from radio waves, that 5G uses. Visible light radiation is orders of magnitude higher than radio waves.

You're not waiting for intelligent life - you're waiting for people that never learned about the electromagnetic spectrum due to flunking 3rd form science, as they'll be the only ones who are going to back up this total bollocks.

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:15 am
by CM11
obelixtim wrote:
MrJonno wrote:
obelixtim wrote:
Nolanator wrote:
obelixtim wrote:History is littered with humans introducing products, cures and solutions touted to be safe which in hindsight proved to be not so safe.

Arsenic and mercury previously used in medicine and dentistry.

DDT, Dioxin, and other chemicals used as herbicides and pest control.

Radiation....the soldiers and sailors who witnessed at close hand the early A bomb tests.

Introduction of alien plants and animals into environments not able to cope with them.

Are just a few examples of the scientists and experts of the time proclaiming that its all good.
You can't blame people for being a bit sceptical of these "reassurances" of the safety of 5G, especially when it is driven by commercial interests. Sure some of the conspiracy theorists belong to the flat earth society, but plenty of thinking people are also urging caution. Because no one knows the long term effects of exposure to these influences. Radiation is a known hazard.

And the question should be asked, do we actually need this? Communications are pretty damn good now. How much communication is enough?

I'm against them simply because the towers are a blot on the landscape, just like those ugly wind turbines.

Our grand children may well be wishing a pox on all these experts in 50 years time.
fudge off you loon.
There is a quote somewhere that states something along the lines of learning from the lessons of history and repeating them. I guess that wisdom hasn´t reached your part of the planet.

Are you seriously suggesting man hasn´t made many cock ups in the past? In the name of progress?

And he is now somehow infallible?

FFS!
So who exactly suggested that?


Looks like we have another one
CM11.
so just fúck off with your 'history has shown' crap.
He obviously thinks we have nothing to learn from cock ups from the past.
You are trying to give credence to a fûcked up theory with your 'history might show they're right' and then you try and weasel out of any culpability with some half arsed 'some of them are loons, I personally don't like 5g for aesthetic reasons'. You could just have led with the latter and left it at that if you actually think there's no credence to the conspiracy. So which is it?

Re: 5G tower torching.

Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 5:30 pm
by Floppykid
You know what it is.