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Wallah wrote:
YOYO wrote:
Wallah wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:I’ll update the 15 (or 23 if we get too many decent options)

1.
2.
3.
4. Courtney Lawes (Black/white)
5.
6. Lewis Ludlam (black/white)
7. Michael Jones (Oceanean/European)
8.
9.
10. Danny Cipriani (White and black)
11. Delon Armitage
12. Jeremy Guscott (Did he play 12 ever?) (white/black)
13. Jonathan Joseph (black/white)
14. Jason Robinson or Anthony Watson (black/white)
15. Zebo (m-Irish and f-French island of Martinique)

COACH: Eddie Jones (white/chinese)
Eddie Jones was born in Tasmania to a Japanese American mother and an Australian father.
I’ll make Eddie the coach.
:thumbup: YOYO
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Frank Oliver was by no means a handsome pin up boy, but looking at Anton Oliver I can only assume his mother was a Cro-Magnon.
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YOYO wrote:You need to state the 2 different countries where his parents are from (or where his parents race originated from)

m means mother; f means father

2. Sonny Bill Williams (m-Samoan, f-New Zealand-Australian)

This is wrong, SBW's father is Samoan and his mother is Pakeha (white NZer).

I have a question for you, for the purposes of this do we consider Polynesians one race - is someone half Maori (m) and half Samoan (f), like Reiko Ioane, eligible for this team?

Also, the best 7 ever in Michael Jones is available for your team with a Samoan mother and a Pakeha father. Edit: Merlin just beat me to it!
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eldanielfire wrote:I’ll update the 15 (or 23 if we get too many decent options)

1.
2.
3.
4. Courtney Lawes (Black/white)
5.
6. Lewis Ludlam (black/white)
7. Stefan Armitage (black/white)
8.
9.
10. Danny Cipriani (White and black)
11. Delon Armitage
12. Jeremy Guscott (Did he play 12 ever?) (white/black)
13. Jonathan Joseph (black/white)
14. Jason Robinson or Anthony Watson (black/white)
15. Zebo (m-Irish and f-French island of Martinique)

COACH: Eddie Jones (white/chinese)
Eddie Jones is Aus (f) and Japanese (m)
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Kiwias wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:I’ll update the 15 (or 23 if we get too many decent options)

1.
2.
3.
4. Courtney Lawes (Black/white)
5.
6. Lewis Ludlam (black/white)
7. Stefan Armitage (black/white)
8.
9.
10. Danny Cipriani (White and black)
11. Delon Armitage
12. Jeremy Guscott (Did he play 12 ever?) (white/black)
13. Jonathan Joseph (black/white)
14. Jason Robinson or Anthony Watson (black/white)
15. Zebo (m-Irish and f-French island of Martinique)

COACH: Eddie Jones (white/chinese)
Eddie Jones is Aus (f) and Japanese (m)
How could anyone get that one wrong? :shock:
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Ok, I'll make a start at a mixed race NZ team (but realistically we could just fill it with a bunch of Maori-Pakeha players if we wanted to).

15. Christian Cullen (Samoan/touch of Maori, Pakeha)
14. Doug Howlett (Pakeha, Tongan)
13.
12. Walter Little (Pakeha, Fijian)
11. Rieko Ioane (Samoan, Maori)
10 DC (Whatever his dad is that his family suppress, Pakeha) or failing him AC (Pakeha, Maori) or I think Mo'unga is half Tongan and half Samoan?
9. Piri Weepu
8.
7. MJ (Pakeha, Samoan)
6.
5.
4. Ross Filipo (Samoan, Maori)
3. Ben Afeaki (Tongan, Maori)
2.
1.
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YOYO wrote:
YOYO wrote:
UncleFB wrote:Ok, I'll make a start at a mixed race NZ team (but realistically we could just fill it with a bunch of Maori-Pakeha players if we wanted to).

15. Christian Cullen (Samoan/touch of Maori, Pakeha)
14. Doug Howlett (Pakeha, Tongan)
13.
12. Walter Little (Pakeha, Fijian)
11. Rieko Ioane (Samoan, Maori)
10 DC (Whatever his dad is that his family suppress, Pakeha) or failing him AC (Pakeha, Maori) or I think Mo'unga is half Tongan and half Samoan?
9. Piri Weepu
8.
7. MJ (Pakeha, Samoan)
6.
5.
4. Ross Filipo (Samoan, Maori)
3. Ben Afeaki (Tongan, Maori)
2.
1.
Players need to half and half of 2 races.
You need to give the split like I have done. No half measures.
I can’t accept Tongan / Maori combo. This more of a difference in ethnicity rather than race.

I’m afraid I can’t accept any of your suggestions.
Firstly, how can you be sure your entire team is a half and half split?

Secondly, I guess we'll have to restrict ourselves to half Pakeha half Poly and other PI's team then. Might struggle in some positions.

Thirdly why can't you accept any of my suggestions when some of them meet your criteria? At least naki's rules are clearly defined. ;)
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These threads are getting weirder and weirder.
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Uncle Fester wrote:These threads are getting weirder and weirder.
This is one of the least weird threads of the past few weeks. :lol:
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YOYO wrote:
UncleFB wrote:
YOYO wrote:
YOYO wrote:
UncleFB wrote:Ok, I'll make a start at a mixed race NZ team (but realistically we could just fill it with a bunch of Maori-Pakeha players if we wanted to).

15. Christian Cullen (Samoan/touch of Maori, Pakeha)
14. Doug Howlett (Pakeha, Tongan)
13.
12. Walter Little (Pakeha, Fijian)
11. Rieko Ioane (Samoan, Maori)
10 DC (Whatever his dad is that his family suppress, Pakeha) or failing him AC (Pakeha, Maori) or I think Mo'unga is half Tongan and half Samoan?
9. Piri Weepu
8.
7. MJ (Pakeha, Samoan)
6.
5.
4. Ross Filipo (Samoan, Maori)
3. Ben Afeaki (Tongan, Maori)
2.
1.
Players need to half and half of 2 races.
You need to give the split like I have done. No half measures.
I can’t accept Tongan / Maori combo. This more of a difference in ethnicity rather than race.

I’m afraid I can’t accept any of your suggestions.
Firstly, how can you be sure your entire team is a half and half split?

Secondly, I guess we'll have to restrict ourselves to half Pakeha half Poly and other PI's team then. Might struggle in some positions.

Thirdly why can't you accept any of my suggestions when some of them meet your criteria? At least naki's rules are clearly defined. ;)
Half Pakeha half Poly is good by me.
By the way I had edited my previous response to you. Does Michael Jones meet the criteria?
Yes, Dad was Pakeha NZer (of Welsh stock) and Mum was Samoan. From my original post Walter Little, Doug Holwett, Aaron Cruden and possibly Christian Cullen should all meet your criteria as well.
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YOYO wrote:Team updated.

Let me know if you have a few most candidates.
Another lock: Adam Coleman, Tongan father, Strayan mother.
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YOYO wrote:
Bogbunny wrote:6. Trevor Brennan m canine f knacker
Not a nice comment. He in fact comes from a very decent and respected family.
Shit thread what do you expect
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YOYO wrote:
YOYO wrote:
Conspicuous wrote:Brian Moore Malaysian/English
Brian makes the cut.
Turns out Brian’s father was in fact China not Malaysian like he thought he was for most of his life. He only found his out at his biological mothers funeral.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/amp.theguar ... ily-values
in that very article he says "I am half Malaysian"

That said, there are a lot of people in Malaysia who are ethnically Chinese (my sister-in-law's family, for one!)
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Thread is particularly weird as expected.

And I'm still pretty sure S and D Armitage need to come off the list.
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Margin_Walker wrote:Thread is particularly weird as expected.

And I'm still pretty sure S and D Armitage need to come off the list.
Pretty sure that as Naki said, every person on the planet could qualify for such a list. Unless yoyo is determined to stick to 19thC imperialist definitions of race. Which would be strange for an Irishman.
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Had no idea Brian Moore was part Chinese.
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11. James Edwards-Small
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Mother: Heather from M-People
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Father: Shaun Edwards*
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* = No, not a typo, honest :lol:
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That's not interracial, it's interspecies
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happyhooker wrote:That's not interracial, it's interspecies

:lol:

Reminds me of this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu-spyQ ... ryabitchin


(fast forward to 1:09 if you don't want to watch the whole thing)
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Tehui wrote:Had no idea Brian Moore was part Chinese.
Nor I.
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CrazyIslander wrote:
Tehui wrote:Had no idea Brian Moore was part Chinese.
Nor I.
I read his autobiography some years back and he talked about his Malaysian biological father
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Was going to suggest Joe Ansbro, but he was adopted and his exact racial origin isn’t known. Or he hasn’t publicised it anyway. He looks mixed race though.

Struck me whilst checking up on this that he could still be playing now if it hadn’t been for his horrendous injury. He’s only 34.
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Doc Rob wrote:Was going to suggest Joe Ansbro, but he was adopted and his exact racial origin isn’t known. Or he hasn’t publicised it anyway. He looks mixed race though.

Struck me whilst checking up on this that he could still be playing now if it hadn’t been for his horrendous injury. He’s only 34.
Stephen Ferris is 34 too , Luke Fitz 32. Neither look mixed race but they both had natural attributes not often seen in Irish players so I’m sceptical :P
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Was Paddy Jackson considered at 10?
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YOYO wrote:
Flametop wrote:Was Paddy Jackson considered at 10?
Is he one of the mythical black gingers?
I seem to remember a picture of him trying really hard to be a bit darker.
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Toby Flood at 10.
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fatcat wrote:Toby Flood at 10.
Really? No reference to it on his wiki page , it only says English and German heritage

Anyone know anything about Michael Bradley’s background?
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The way he ran looked like a cross between the 110m hurdles and the egg & spoon race.
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Conspicuous wrote:
fatcat wrote:Toby Flood at 10.
Really? No reference to it on his wiki page , it only says English and German heritage

Anyone know anything about Michael Bradley’s background?

or Kieran Campbell?
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Bogbunny wrote:
Conspicuous wrote:
fatcat wrote:Toby Flood at 10.
Really? No reference to it on his wiki page , it only says English and German heritage

Anyone know anything about Michael Bradley’s background?

or Kieran Campbell?
Campbell was born in London to an Irish father and Sri Lankan mother
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