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https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/longfor ... 9-outbreakCattle are led into what’s known as the knocking area, where they are hit in the head with a bolt gun meant to stun them. Then, using a knife, a worker will cut the throat of the animal to bleed it.
This work can be dangerous for employees, as the behaviour of a nervous animal is difficult to predict.
Not a vegan... but...Don't really eat red meat anymore.....Nieghorn wrote:Moosehead, are you a vegan?
I was reading about the meat processing plant outbreak recently and will admit I was a bit naive myself how they're processed ...
https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/longfor ... 9-outbreakCattle are led into what’s known as the knocking area, where they are hit in the head with a bolt gun meant to stun them. Then, using a knife, a worker will cut the throat of the animal to bleed it.
This work can be dangerous for employees, as the behaviour of a nervous animal is difficult to predict.
?Canadian_Rugger wrote:Nobody is torturing any animals. The hypocrisy of your posts is quite hilarious. If I was First Nations, you'd probably be praising me for practicing the old ways.moosehead wrote:Yes, I've shot a black bear before. Went on my first black bear hunt when I was a teenager. The meat can be very good if prepared properly and depending on the time of year. In case you've missed the part about my family running a hunting and fishing camp. My Great Uncle even took a few celebs hunting, they shall remain nameless for obvious reasons.
What percentage of your first shot are a clean kill....
What percentage of your first shot wounds the bear and makes it suffer..... Do you support cruelty of animals ?
Having rich tourists pay your family stupid money to torture animals in Canada is not the kind of money that i would ever want to receive.....
Like I said, nearly 400 years on this continent buddy. My family originally settled in New Amsterdam and then moved to Canada during the American Revolution because we were loyal to the Crown. We have been hunting and fishing on this land since that time and will continue to do so.
Forgive us for showing others how to live off the land cleanly and running a business as well. Save your rage for evil food corporations who actually treat animals like shit.
I'm not going to apologize for hunting or fishing. I like my meat, fresh.
Hunting Black Bear occurs in the spring and fall of the year. You get a license with a tag allocation that tells you where you can hunt. You can have a maximum of two licenses a year but can't get a second until you successfully bag a bear.Floppykid wrote:Are they only hunted during sanctioned and necessary culls?
If it makes the hunter feel like a big man then, it's weird I guess but harmless enough.
If it's just because the hunter want to eat bear meat, well.....
Outfitters who run a business get issued a certain number of licenses that they can issue, usually to non-residents who they will guide. Non-residents can also enter a randomized lottery draw.
It's a heavily regulated and controlled activity. It's done sustainably and ethically.
Absolutely. No chance of killing a bear if you can’t select automatic.message #2527204 wrote:?Canadian_Rugger wrote:Nobody is torturing any animals. The hypocrisy of your posts is quite hilarious. If I was First Nations, you'd probably be praising me for practicing the old ways.moosehead wrote:Yes, I've shot a black bear before. Went on my first black bear hunt when I was a teenager. The meat can be very good if prepared properly and depending on the time of year. In case you've missed the part about my family running a hunting and fishing camp. My Great Uncle even took a few celebs hunting, they shall remain nameless for obvious reasons.
What percentage of your first shot are a clean kill....
What percentage of your first shot wounds the bear and makes it suffer..... Do you support cruelty of animals ?
Having rich tourists pay your family stupid money to torture animals in Canada is not the kind of money that i would ever want to receive.....
Like I said, nearly 400 years on this continent buddy. My family originally settled in New Amsterdam and then moved to Canada during the American Revolution because we were loyal to the Crown. We have been hunting and fishing on this land since that time and will continue to do so.
Forgive us for showing others how to live off the land cleanly and running a business as well. Save your rage for evil food corporations who actually treat animals like shit.
I'm not going to apologize for hunting or fishing. I like my meat, fresh.
Hunting Black Bear occurs in the spring and fall of the year. You get a license with a tag allocation that tells you where you can hunt. You can have a maximum of two licenses a year but can't get a second until you successfully bag a bear.Floppykid wrote:Are they only hunted during sanctioned and necessary culls?
If it makes the hunter feel like a big man then, it's weird I guess but harmless enough.
If it's just because the hunter want to eat bear meat, well.....
Outfitters who run a business get issued a certain number of licenses that they can issue, usually to non-residents who they will guide. Non-residents can also enter a randomized lottery draw.
It's a heavily regulated and controlled activity. It's done sustainably and ethically.
...And definitely requires an assault rifle.
Absolute bullshit, numerous politicians with backwards attitudes have gone after video games and been shown to be wrong time and time again.Canadian_Rugger wrote:Be nice if you could back that up with some statistics. The homicide rate in the UK is rising, as well there are countries that have very high levels of firearms ownership that have lower homicide rates than any English speaking country.earl the beaver wrote:That is true, some places are lawless shit holes regardless of the gun laws.Canadian_Rugger wrote:There is no statistical correlation between gun ownership and violent crime. Some countries where gun ownership is prohibited have incredibly high rates of violence while others with very high gun ownership have no crime.earl the beaver wrote: Why do people make these false equivalences?
In places like the UK and Aus where gun ownership is highly regulated and assault weapons illegal why does gun crime rate drop? Why are assault weapons so expensive to be illegally purchased that they are prohibitively expensive to the type of nut job who wants one to shoot up a school?
It's not fúcking coincidence.
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I crunched the numbers myself just to be certain I wasn't falling prey to my own biases.
However, what you can draw a comparison to are western countries who have introduced more stringent regulation of firearms (the UK and Aus being prime examples) where gun crime has reduced as a result of the regulation, that isn't coincidence.
Violence is a cultural and social issue, firearms can be a tool but they aren't the real issue.
I personally think letting kids sit at home playing violent video games is far more dangerous than any firearm ever will be. Or how about the bullshit gangbanger culture that promotes violence, misogyny and anti-authoritarianism?
Nobody is saying we should ban people playing GTA or listening to NWA.
We've got our priorities all backwards. We try and attack symptoms rather than the root causes.
As someone who was a teenager in th e70's - this is bullshit.I personally think letting kids sit at home playing violent video games is far more dangerous than any firearm ever will be. Or how about the bullshit gangbanger culture that promotes violence, misogyny and anti-authoritarianism?
No, perhaps I need you to illustrate exactly, using the text from my post, where I said thatmessage #2527204 wrote:What a load of f**king shit. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.Fat Albert wrote:An observation from my time working with the police statistically.
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Which just goes to prove that gun bans are about elections rather than children's lives and that voters (and forum contributors) are pig ignorant hipocrits.
Are you honestly saying that a lunatic going on a shooting spree with a tool that is conceived and manufactured with the sole intention of it being able to kill people rapidly and efficiently is like a road traffic accident?
I agree with the last sentimentCanadian_Rugger wrote:...
Or how about the bullshit gangbanger culture that promotes violence, misogyny and anti-authoritarianism?
Nobody is saying we should ban people playing GTA or listening to NWA.
We've got our priorities all backwards. We try and attack symptoms rather than the root causes.
If anyone put my kid in a car without a seatbelt I'd get my army assault rifle and do them and their family.Fat Albert wrote:No, perhaps I need you to illustrate exactly, using the text from my post, where I said thatmessage #2527204 wrote:What a load of f**king shit. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.Fat Albert wrote:An observation from my time working with the police statistically.
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Which just goes to prove that gun bans are about elections rather than children's lives and that voters (and forum contributors) are pig ignorant hipocrits.
Are you honestly saying that a lunatic going on a shooting spree with a tool that is conceived and manufactured with the sole intention of it being able to kill people rapidly and efficiently is like a road traffic accident?
My post referred to the hand gun ban used by Bliar/Mandleson to generate political advantage (i.e. win an election) in the full and complete knowledge that the ban would not reduce the ability of a deranged lunatic to kill large numbers of children. As I understand the Canadian ban, automatic weapons were already restricted to a maximum of 5 bullets so the killing spree nightmare you allude to is just that, a fantasy.
The prevalence of guns in a society is not, in itself, THE risk factor otherwise Switzerland would have no children at all...
Every day in the UK thousands of children are collected by the parents of one child on behalf of other childrens parents, spend one afternoon watching and you'll see just how many are restrained when they're driven off. In my view, carrying someone else's unrestrained child in your vehicle is much more than a traffic violation, but hey, each to his own.
Nice.message #2527204 wrote:If anyone put my kid in a car without a seatbelt I'd get my army assault rifle and do them and their family.
The Swiss are trained by the army and lock their guns away, the yanks pump their kids full of macho tales of righteous retribution from TV and Hollywood,
How did people hunt them before semi-automatic rifles? Genuinely interested as an ex-hunter, or were they crack shots?MungoMan wrote:Absolutely. No chance of killing a bear if you can’t select automatic.message #2527204 wrote:
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...And definitely requires an assault rifle.
You do know actual assault rifles are not merely semi-auto, right? And that they were not legally available to the vast majority even before the new laws, right? You did actually know that didn’t you, smeggage?
Of course semi autos are not needed for hunting..... but they are way cooler for losers to show off with in their basement in front of the occassional friend they get over to their place...Enzedder wrote:How did people hunt them before semi-automatic rifles? Genuinely interested as an ex-hunter, or were they crack shots?MungoMan wrote:Absolutely. No chance of killing a bear if you can’t select automatic.message #2527204 wrote:
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...And definitely requires an assault rifle.
You do know actual assault rifles are not merely semi-auto, right? And that they were not legally available to the vast majority even before the new laws, right? You did actually know that didn’t you, smeggage?
Like this I imagine.Enzedder wrote:How did people hunt them before semi-automatic rifles? Genuinely interested as an ex-hunter, or were they crack shots?
Mr Mike wrote:Like this I imagine.Enzedder wrote:How did people hunt them before semi-automatic rifles? Genuinely interested as an ex-hunter, or were they crack shots?
Great player, loved by the fairer sex.moosehead wrote:Mr Mike wrote:Like this I imagine.Enzedder wrote:How did people hunt them before semi-automatic rifles? Genuinely interested as an ex-hunter, or were they crack shots?
You realize the stunt man in that move ... inside the bear costume... was a guy that used to play rugby on the same uni team as me....
hint - he went on to play pro in Japan. He played number 8 for Canada.
Just sayin.....
