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Post 'em here. The biggest howlers refs have done that you're aware of. Inspired by the thread about Steve "Stan " Hansen having a good fucking cry about a series 3 years ago.

I'll start.

Romain Poite v Bismark Du Plessis. BDP had the fucken nerve to smesh Dan Carter (who was hit hard but dived, it has to be said) in a perfectly legal tackle. Poite, happy with the tackle, asked the TMO to review the scuffle afterwards instead of the actual tackle itself. Classic Poite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhnQrt11Czk
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I remember this “grounding” :lol:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MOWLIvfkVoY
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What was that hilarious missed knock on in a Super Rugby match in SA? Think it was the Bulls involved and the ball went like 10m forward.
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Thomas wrote:Post 'em here. The biggest howlers refs have done that you're aware of. Inspired by the thread about Steve "Stan " Hansen having a good fucking cry about a series 3 years ago.

I'll start.

Romain Poite v Bismark Du Plessis. BDP had the fucken nerve to smesh Dan Carter (who was hit hard but dived, it has to be said) in a perfectly legal tackle. Poite, happy with the tackle, asked the TMO to review the scuffle afterwards instead of the actual tackle itself. Classic Poite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhnQrt11Czk
Speaking of good f**king cries, how long have you been holding on to this one about two teams you're not a fan of?

But good to know that you back Hansen in regards to Poite's idiocy.
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Jay Cee Gee wrote:What was that hilarious missed knock on in a Super Rugby match in SA? Think it was the Bulls involved and the ball went like 10m forward.
Marius Jonker, I believe. Morne Steyn dropped the ball cold and it rolled about 3m diagonally forward. Dude probably forgot he was only allowed to make those "decisions" in South Africa.

Edit: Sorry, it was in South Africa :lol: Saffa home refs strike again!
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UncleFB wrote:
Thomas wrote:Post 'em here. The biggest howlers refs have done that you're aware of. Inspired by the thread about Steve "Stan " Hansen having a good fucking cry about a series 3 years ago.

I'll start.

Romain Poite v Bismark Du Plessis. BDP had the fucken nerve to smesh Dan Carter (who was hit hard but dived, it has to be said) in a perfectly legal tackle. Poite, happy with the tackle, asked the TMO to review the scuffle afterwards instead of the actual tackle itself. Classic Poite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhnQrt11Czk
Speaking of good f**king cries, how long have you been holding on to this one about two teams you're not a fan of?

But good to know that you back Hansen in regards to Poite's idiocy.
It's okay mate. It's okay. You can post some clips if you like.
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This one is a doozy. TMO and ref award a try. Problem is, the ball was actually touched down by a defender (should have been a 5m scrum for taking it back).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlXVGhrq57I
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Thomas wrote:
UncleFB wrote:
Thomas wrote:Post 'em here. The biggest howlers refs have done that you're aware of. Inspired by the thread about Steve "Stan " Hansen having a good fucking cry about a series 3 years ago.

I'll start.

Romain Poite v Bismark Du Plessis. BDP had the fucken nerve to smesh Dan Carter (who was hit hard but dived, it has to be said) in a perfectly legal tackle. Poite, happy with the tackle, asked the TMO to review the scuffle afterwards instead of the actual tackle itself. Classic Poite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhnQrt11Czk
Speaking of good f**king cries, how long have you been holding on to this one about two teams you're not a fan of?

But good to know that you back Hansen in regards to Poite's idiocy.
It's okay mate. It's okay. You can post some clips if you like.
I'm too lazy to do that. Plus, I'm not going to defend Hansen after his selection stupidity last year.
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Go on. Post the Joubert decision in the AUS - SCO 1/4 final in 2015. That's a great one.
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Thomas wrote:Go on. Post the Joubert decision in the AUS - SCO 1/4 final in 2015. That's a great one.
I really don't care ....
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There can only be one...

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Jeff the Bear wrote:There can only be one...

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You mean the correct decision based on the framework that was around at the time?
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Can’t think of anything as blatantly bad as referee George Clancy illegally goading his TMO Johan Meuwesen to rule on an All Black forward pass (which wasn’t allowed at the time) v the Springboks at Port Elizabeth in 2011.

I dread to imagine the uproar if it was a Springbok try that was disallowed in such ridiculous circumstances.
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I don't have a clip but Egon Seconds reffed a match between the Reds and Sunwolves a few years ago that the Sunwolves won handsomely. Egon in the middle with Japanese ARs and TMO. The TMO couldn't speak English and Egon couldn't communicate properly with him. It was a complete farce.

There was a line break which led to a dodgy pass and then a tackle over the line. Egon asked the TMO that he was happy that the ball was grounded but he wanted to see the pass. Literally 4 minutes went by with the TMO repeatedly showing the grounding and the try but not the pass before it. Egon was all "No, no. I want to see the pass not the grounding" and the TMO would reply "Here is the ball being grounded..."

This happened about 8 times. Egon asking to see the pass and the TMO showing the grounding.

Then the TMO said "I look at pass. It was fine"

It wasn't.
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Thomas wrote:I don't have a clip but Egon Seconds reffed a match between the Reds and Sunwolves a few years ago that the Sunwolves won handsomely. Egon in the middle with Japanese ARs and TMO. The TMO couldn't speak English and Egon couldn't communicate properly with him. It was a complete farce.

There was a line break which led to a dodgy pass and then a tackle over the line. Egon asked the TMO that he was happy that the ball was grounded but he wanted to see the pass. Literally 4 minutes went by with the TMO repeatedly showing the grounding and the try but not the pass before it. Egon was all "No, no. I want to see the pass not the grounding" and the TMO would reply "Here is the ball being grounded..."

This happened about 8 times. Egon asking to see the pass and the TMO showing the grounding.

Then the TMO said "I look at pass. It was fine"

It wasn't.
I remember seeing this TMO review in a game of league ages ago and they looked at the grounding for about 2 minutes and gave the try, except they didn't bother to check if the ball carrier was in touch and literally his entire bottom half was lying outside the field of play.
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Jay Cee Gee wrote:
Thomas wrote:I don't have a clip but Egon Seconds reffed a match between the Reds and Sunwolves a few years ago that the Sunwolves won handsomely. Egon in the middle with Japanese ARs and TMO. The TMO couldn't speak English and Egon couldn't communicate properly with him. It was a complete farce.

There was a line break which led to a dodgy pass and then a tackle over the line. Egon asked the TMO that he was happy that the ball was grounded but he wanted to see the pass. Literally 4 minutes went by with the TMO repeatedly showing the grounding and the try but not the pass before it. Egon was all "No, no. I want to see the pass not the grounding" and the TMO would reply "Here is the ball being grounded..."

This happened about 8 times. Egon asking to see the pass and the TMO showing the grounding.

Then the TMO said "I look at pass. It was fine"

It wasn't.
I remember seeing this TMO review in a game of league ages ago and they looked at the grounding for about 2 minutes and gave the try, except they didn't bother to check if the ball carrier was in touch and literally his entire bottom half was lying outside the field of play.
Check the clip EF posted. It's a Shute Shield match. Half of the guy is in touch as he slides in to score. Like, up to his waist.
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Thomas wrote:
Jay Cee Gee wrote:
Thomas wrote:I don't have a clip but Egon Seconds reffed a match between the Reds and Sunwolves a few years ago that the Sunwolves won handsomely. Egon in the middle with Japanese ARs and TMO. The TMO couldn't speak English and Egon couldn't communicate properly with him. It was a complete farce.

There was a line break which led to a dodgy pass and then a tackle over the line. Egon asked the TMO that he was happy that the ball was grounded but he wanted to see the pass. Literally 4 minutes went by with the TMO repeatedly showing the grounding and the try but not the pass before it. Egon was all "No, no. I want to see the pass not the grounding" and the TMO would reply "Here is the ball being grounded..."

This happened about 8 times. Egon asking to see the pass and the TMO showing the grounding.

Then the TMO said "I look at pass. It was fine"

It wasn't.
I remember seeing this TMO review in a game of league ages ago and they looked at the grounding for about 2 minutes and gave the try, except they didn't bother to check if the ball carrier was in touch and literally his entire bottom half was lying outside the field of play.
Check the clip EF posted. It's a Shute Shield match. Half of the guy is in touch as he slides in to score. Like, up to his waist.
Yeah, I remember that one. Hilarious.

Reminded me of this missed call in the NBA where 3 refs somehow thought Kevin Durant was in bounds when he knocked this ball back into play.

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Poite with the bullshit call re: Ken Owens offside, series decider, All Blacks v Lions 2017 /thread.
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Thomas wrote:BDP had the fucken nerve to smesh Dan Carter (who was hit hard but dived, it has to be said)
Carter committed so hard to the dive that he left the field injured with a dislocated shoulder and didn’t return to rugby for months.
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naki wrote:
Thomas wrote:BDP had the fucken nerve to smesh Dan Carter (who was hit hard but dived, it has to be said)
Carter committed so hard to the dive that he left the field injured with a dislocated shoulder and didn’t return to rugby for months.
See that's what makes him one of the greats, really commits himself into everything he does
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Jay Cee Gee wrote:What was that hilarious missed knock on in a Super Rugby match in SA? Think it was the Bulls involved and the ball went like 10m forward.

Against the Brumbies in 2012 - Marius Jonker. Was the winning margin...
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naki wrote:
Thomas wrote:BDP had the fucken nerve to smesh Dan Carter (who was hit hard but dived, it has to be said)
Carter committed so hard to the dive that he left the field injured with a dislocated shoulder and didn’t return to rugby for months.
What can I say? The guy could really dive. He was just THAT good.
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naki wrote:
Thomas wrote:BDP had the fucken nerve to smesh Dan Carter (who was hit hard but dived, it has to be said)
Carter committed so hard to the dive that he left the field injured with a dislocated shoulder and didn’t return to rugby for months.


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Thomas wrote:Go on. Post the Joubert decision in the AUS - SCO 1/4 final in 2015. That's a great one.
I would, but that would end the thread.
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I'm still shaking my head as to why Scotland threw long to that lineout - hard on defence and in the rain.

It beggars belief.
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Lloyd Linton sending the wrong Shingler to the bin in a Blues vs Scarlets match. Can't find the video but the brothers were on opposite teams and he gave a yellow card to the one that was fouled against
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The ref ruling a forward pass to Jonah in the 2nd half of the 95 WC final as the ABs looked to counterattack from deep in their own territory. Cost the MiB their second Bill
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jdogscoop wrote:I'm still shaking my head as to why Scotland threw long to that lineout - hard on defence and in the rain.

It beggars belief.

So are most Scotland fans x(

Joubert is still a plum.
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Two pages into this thread and I for one am pleased to see so few South African refs named in the highly contentious howlers. Keep up the good work my boets.
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Crikey I am amazed no one has mentioned Bar :thumbup: nes and the YC at the 2007 Quarter final yet :shock:

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Yellow was fine as McAlister didn't trust his cover and deliberately obstructed.
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Hand of Back

https://youtu.be/TAfepsoVPtQ

How did the touch judge miss this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIA7mx0b5OA
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This was the bastard birth of The Swarm and the beginning of the Irish descent into the moaning chavs of world rugby. A seminal moment for rugger.
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Openside wrote:Crikey I am amazed no one has mentioned Bar :thumbup: nes and the YC at the 2007 Quarter final yet :shock:

Proud of you kiwis
The forward pass and the yellow card were fine. All Blacks have gotten away with plenty of forward passes that have resulted in key tries.

Not getting any second half penalties from the Frogs being constantly offside at the ruck was ridiculous though. Barnes was still a toddler and should never have been assigned that game.
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BBB wrote:Can’t think of anything as blatantly bad as referee George Clancy illegally goading his TMO Johan Meuwesen to rule on an All Black forward pass (which wasn’t allowed at the time) v the Springboks at Port Elizabeth in 2011.

I dread to imagine the uproar if it was a Springbok try that was disallowed in such ridiculous circumstances.
I have no idea of the instance you are referring to - but why would a referee need to 'goad' anyone into doing anything? He's the ref!

Or are you suggesting that the ref should not in fact be the final arbiter of a rugby match?
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Posted this one recently - Lloyd Linton sinbins the wrong Shingler brother:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/37823975

Steve Shingler (Blues) tackles his brother Aaron Shingler (Scarlets) early.

Aaron gets the yellow.
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I don’t normally think slagging off refs is cool, passes get missed, offsides etc - so what. Even with action replay it’s easy enough to interpret things differently. There are some posters on here who perma slag off the refs saying they are biased and ruin games, but blaming the ref all the time is just a bit sad.

However, some howlers and favourites are pretty blatant , I actually think kiwi refs are amongst the worst. The worst match I can recall was A kiwi team at home to Sharks, Jon smit at half time was actually laughing at how bad it was, Beast got penalised for dangerous play but was stationary at a scrum !
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Hodges leaping shoulder to the face of the Fijian non decision in the middle of the great red card epidemic of WC 2019 Japan.

What a farce that whole gig was.
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