Delilah - regretting domestic violence or celebrating it?

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https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.wale ... 455444.amp
Unlike swing low, where the singer may be unaware of the song’s origin, Delilah is obviously about domestic violence, but is he celebrating it? He clearly doesn’t get away with it, (they’re breaking down the door, ffs), and he asks for forgiveness too, after stabbing her, not just for laughing at him, but for infidelity too. So basically a song about a bloke who stabs his girlfriend and then regrets it, which we sing because Tom Jones sang it. So all songs about murderers are banned? That will include The green green grass of home for starters, any song about Jesse James, Bonny and Clyde etc. And banning the singing of the song won’t mean that domestic violence will disappear.
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Gwenno wrote:https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.wale ... 455444.amp
Unlike swing low, where the singer may be unaware of the song’s origin, Delilah is obviously about domestic violence, but is he celebrating it? He clearly doesn’t get away with it, (they’re breaking down the door, ffs), and he asks for forgiveness too, after stabbing her, not just for laughing at him, but for infidelity too. So basically a song about a bloke who stabs his girlfriend and then regrets it, which we sing because Tom Jones sang it. So all songs about murderers are banned? That will include The green green grass of home for starters, any song about Jesse James, Bonny and Clyde etc. And banning the singing of the song won’t mean that domestic violence will disappear.
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Are you offering the argument that stalking and murder are OK as long as you express regret. Or worse, victim blaming?
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message #2527204 wrote:
Gwenno wrote:https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.wale ... 455444.amp
Unlike swing low, where the singer may be unaware of the song’s origin, Delilah is obviously about domestic violence, but is he celebrating it? He clearly doesn’t get away with it, (they’re breaking down the door, ffs), and he asks for forgiveness too, after stabbing her, not just for laughing at him, but for infidelity too. So basically a song about a bloke who stabs his girlfriend and then regrets it, which we sing because Tom Jones sang it. So all songs about murderers are banned? That will include The green green grass of home for starters, any song about Jesse James, Bonny and Clyde etc. And banning the singing of the song won’t mean that domestic violence will disappear.
Personal computer gone mad.
Are you offering the argument that stalking and murder are OK as long as you express regret. Or worse, victim blaming?
Neither. It’s his story
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A rather vocal section of our society seem to have a monopoly on what we should have and what we shouldn’t have. What is comedy and what is offensive. What should be sung and what shouldn’t. What statues we should keep and what we should take down.

They’re somewhat of a tour de force now. Thinking they’re edging their way to some form of utopia where there will be sunshine, rainbows and lollipops yet the future will be anything but.
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Forget Delilah, what about poor Delia?
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mr bungle wrote:Forget Delilah, what about poor Delia?
Indeed

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NiC679ASOyA
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In defence of swing low, before it was adopted by the England fans, it was just a rugby song. We loved singing it in the 70s and 80s in Cardiff Med Club. The gestures alone made it worth it. Yes, we knew that it was a spiritual, but we often sang spirituals in male voice choirs, and still do. You won’t hear me singing it now though - who wants to be mistaken for an England fan?
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Gwenno wrote:In defence of swing low, before it was adopted by the England fans, it was just a rugby song. We loved singing it in the 70s and 80s in Cardiff Med Club. The gestures alone made it worth it. Yes, we knew that it was a spiritual, but we often sang spirituals in male voice choirs, and still do. You won’t hear me singing it now though - who wants to be mistaken for an England fan?
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Gwenno wrote:In defence of swing low, before it was adopted by the England fans, it was just a rugby song. We loved singing it in the 70s and 80s in Cardiff Med Club. The gestures alone made it worth it. Yes, we knew that it was a spiritual, but we often sang spirituals in male voice choirs, and still do. You won’t hear me singing it now though - who wants to be mistaken for an England fan?
Now I understand the furore - England fans have culturally appropriated it from the Welsh.

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Gwenno wrote:In defence of swing low, before it was adopted by the England fans, it was just a rugby song. We loved singing it in the 70s and 80s in Cardiff Med Club. The gestures alone made it worth it. Yes, we knew that it was a spiritual, but we often sang spirituals in male voice choirs, and still do. You won’t hear me singing it now though - who wants to be mistaken for an England fan?
:thumbup: the Med Club at the Heath was great
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Dobbin wrote:
Gwenno wrote:In defence of swing low, before it was adopted by the England fans, it was just a rugby song. We loved singing it in the 70s and 80s in Cardiff Med Club. The gestures alone made it worth it. Yes, we knew that it was a spiritual, but we often sang spirituals in male voice choirs, and still do. You won’t hear me singing it now though - who wants to be mistaken for an England fan?
Now I understand the furore - England fans have culturally appropriated it from the Welsh.

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Scots really should lay claim to Delilah as the SAHB version is way superior.
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Mick Mannock wrote:Scots really should lay claim to Delilah as the SAHB version is way superior.
I cannot disagree.
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It's definitely victim blaming.
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Derwyn wrote:A rather vocal section of our society seem to have a monopoly on what we should have and what we shouldn’t have. What is comedy and what is offensive. What should be sung and what shouldn’t. What statues we should keep and what we should take down.

They’re somewhat of a tour de force now. Thinking they’re edging their way to some form of utopia where there will be sunshine, rainbows and lollipops yet the future will be anything but.
Agree with you 100%, its becoming very silly first no laughing at jokes with slight racial hint, now no singing, I've been following rugby for 40 years and I've never heard any racists chants nor a bloke who has just stuck a knife in his missus because she laughed at him for sleeping with ted the butcher.

I think we need to shout out loud to these snowflake political correct arseholes, Bollocks, as Alf Garnet would say.
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Derwyn wrote:A rather vocal section of our society seem to have a monopoly on what we should have and what we shouldn’t have. What is comedy and what is offensive. What should be sung and what shouldn’t. What statues we should keep and what we should take down.
Can you please point me to the time and place in history when this wasn’t the case?
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Clive wrote:
Derwyn wrote:A rather vocal section of our society seem to have a monopoly on what we should have and what we shouldn’t have. What is comedy and what is offensive. What should be sung and what shouldn’t. What statues we should keep and what we should take down.

They’re somewhat of a tour de force now. Thinking they’re edging their way to some form of utopia where there will be sunshine, rainbows and lollipops yet the future will be anything but.
Agree with you 100%, its becoming very silly first no laughing at jokes with slight racial hint, now no singing, I've been following rugby for 40 years and I've never heard any racists chants nor a bloke who has just stuck a knife in his missus because she laughed at him for sleeping with ted the butcher.

I think we need to shout out loud to these snowflake political correct arseholes, Bollocks, as Alf Garnet would say.
tbf, you’re the one crying about a statue or two. Who exactly are you calling snowflake, snowflake?
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Funnily enough, I was listening to Johnny Cash on my headphones when out for a walk yesterday and was wondering when they’d get around to banning most of his songs. If he isn’t beating the shit out of, or shooting, some guy in a bar he’s beating the shit out of, or shooting, his wife/girlfriend in various locations. Can’t be long before half his songs are in old storage.
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Lenny wrote:Funnily enough, I was listening to Johnny Cash on my headphones when out for a walk yesterday and was wondering when they’d get around to banning most of his songs. If he isn’t beating the shit out of, or shooting, some guy in a bar he’s beating the shit out of, or shooting, his wife/girlfriend in various locations. Can’t be long before half his songs are in old storage.
Which countries are banning songs in 2020?
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towny wrote:
Lenny wrote:Funnily enough, I was listening to Johnny Cash on my headphones when out for a walk yesterday and was wondering when they’d get around to banning most of his songs. If he isn’t beating the shit out of, or shooting, some guy in a bar he’s beating the shit out of, or shooting, his wife/girlfriend in various locations. Can’t be long before half his songs are in old storage.
Which countries are banning songs in 2020?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_s ... by_the_BBC
Plenty of time yet, but not seen one dated 2020, there is at least one from 2019.
A
"A-huggin' and A-chalkin'" – Johnny Mercer (1946)[21]
"All the Young Dudes" – Mott the Hoople (1972)[22]
"Angels in the Sky" – The Crew-Cuts (1955)[23]
"Answer Me" – Frankie Laine (1953)[1]
B
"Baby, Let Me Follow You Down" – Bob Dylan (1962)[2]
"The Battle of New Orleans" – Johnny Horton (1959)[23]
"Baubles, Bangles and Beads" – Kirby Stone Four (1958)[23]
"Be Prepared" – Tom Lehrer (1953)[23]
"Beep Beep" – The Playmates (1958)[23]
"Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered" – Ella Fitzgerald (1958)[21]
"Big Eight" – Judge Dread (1973)[24]
"Big Seven" – Judge Dread (1972)[24]
"Big Six" – Judge Dread (1972)[24]
"Big Ten" – Judge Dread (1975)[24]
"The Blue Danube" – Spike Jones and His City Slickers (1945)[21]
"Burn My Candle" – Shirley Bassey (1956)[21]
C
"(Celebrate) The Day After You" – The Blow Monkeys and Curtis Mayfield (1987)[25]
"Celebrate the Bullet" – The Selecter (1981)[26]
"Chaabian Boyz" – Frenzo Harami (2019)[27]
"Charlie Brown" – The Coasters (1959)[citation needed]
"The Christening" – Arthur Askey (1943)[21]
"Come Again" – Au Pairs (1981)[28]
"Come Monday" – Jimmy Buffett (1974)[29]
"Come Together" – The Beatles (1969)[30][note 2]
"The Cover of Rolling Stone" – Dr. Hook & the Medicine Show (1973)[32]
"Cradle Song (Brahms' Lullaby)" – Frank Sinatra (1944)[21]
"Creep" – Radiohead (1992)[33]
"Croce di Oro (Cross of Gold)" – Joan Regan (1955)[21]
"Crying in the Chapel" – Lee Lawrence (1953)[21]
"Cuddle Me" – Ted Heath featuring Dennis Lotis (1954)[21]
D
"Danny Boy" – Conway Twitty (1959)[23]
"A Day in the Life" – The Beatles (1967)[16]
"The Deck of Cards" – T. Texas Tyler (1948)[21]
"Deep in the Heart of Texas" – Bing Crosby and Woody Herman (1942)[21]
"The Devil Is a Woman" – Herb Jeffries (1957)[21]
"Diggin' My Potatoes" – Lonnie Donegan (1954)[14]
"Dinner with Drac" – John Zacherle (1958)[23]
"Don't Let's Be Beastly to the Germans" – Noël Coward (1943)[14]
"Disarm" – The Smashing Pumpkins (1994)[34]
E
"Ebeneezer Goode" – The Shamen (1992)[35]
"Ebony Eyes" – The Everly Brothers (1961)[36]
"Eve of Destruction" – Barry McGuire (1965)[1]
F
"The Foggy, Foggy, Dew" – Peter Pears (1950)[21]
"French Kiss" – Lil Louis (1989)[25]
"f**king in Heaven" – Fatboy Slim (1998)[3]
G
"The Garden of Eden" – Frankie Vaughan (1957)[21]
"Gimme a Pigfoot (And a Bottle of Beer)" – Bessie Smith (1933)[23]
"Give Ireland Back to the Irish" – Wings (1972)[37]
"Glad to Be Gay" – Tom Robinson Band (1978)[38]
"Gloomy Sunday" – Billie Holiday (1941)[1]
"God Bless the Child" – Billie Holiday (1942)[21]
"God Save the Queen" – Sex Pistols (1977)[10]
"Green Jeans" – The Flee-Rekkers (1960)[2]
"Granny Takes a Trip" – Purple Gang (1967)[39]
"Greensleeves" – The Beverley Sisters (1956)[21]
"Guess Things Happen That Way" – Johnny Cash (1958)[23]
H
"Hank Janson Blues" – Anne Shelton (1953)[21]
"Have a Whiff on Me" – Mungo Jerry (1971)[40]
"Hard Headed Woman" – Elvis Presley (1958)[23]
"He" – Al Hibbler (1955)[23]
"Heaven and Hell" – The Easybeats (1967)[41]
"The Heel" – Eartha Kitt (1955)[21]
"Hi, Hi, Hi" – Wings (1972)[37]
"High Class Baby" – Cliff Richard and the Drifters (1958)[23]
"Hold My Hand" – Don Cornell (1954)[42]
"Honey Hush" – The Rock and Roll Trio (1956)[23]
"Honey Love" – Dennis Lotis (1954)[21]
"Honeycomb" – Jimmie Rodgers (1957)[21]
"(How Little It Matters) How Little We Know" – Frank Sinatra (1956)[21]
"The House of the Rising Sun" – Josh White (1950)[21]
"Hype on the Mic" – Frenzo Harami (2019)[43]
I
"I Am the Walrus" – The Beatles (1967)[3][note 2]
"I Can't Control Myself" – The Troggs (1966)[44]
"I Can't Make It" – Small Faces(1967)[45][46]
"I Hear the Angels Singing" – Frankie Laine (1954)[21]
"I Leaned on a Man" – Connie Francis (1957)[23]
"I Love a Man in Uniform" – Gang of Four (1982)[47]
"I Want to Be Evil" – Eartha Kitt (1953)[23]
"I Want You to Be My Baby" – Annie Ross (1956)[6]
"I Want Your Sex" – George Michael (1987)[25]
"I Went to Your Wedding" – Spike Jones and His City Slickers (1953)[21]
"I'll Be Home for Christmas" – Bing Crosby (1943)[2]
"I'm Always Chasing Rainbows" – Ken Dodd (1963)[1]
"I'm Always Chasing Rainbows" – Perry Como (1949)[1]
"I'm Nobody's Baby" – Frankie Howerd (1948)[21]
"In the Beginning" – Frankie Laine (1955)[23]
"In the Hall of the Mountain King" – Nero and the Gladiators (1961)[48]
"Invisible Sun" – The Police (1981)[49]
"It Is No Secret" – Jo Stafford (1954)[21]
"It Wasn't God Who Made Honky Tonk Angels" – Kitty Wells (1952)[21]
"It Would Be So Nice" – Pink Floyd (1968)[50]
"I've Come of Age" – Billy Storm (1959)[23]
J
"Jack The Ripper" – Screaming Lord Sutch (1963)[47]
"Jackie" – Scott Walker (1967)[51]
"Je t'aime... moi non-plus" – Jane Birkin and Serge Gainsbourg (1969)[33][52]
"John and Marsha" – Stan Freberg (1950)[21]
"Johnny Remember Me" – John Leyton (1961)[53]
"Jungle Fever" – The Chakachas (1971)[54]
K
"Keep Me in Mind" – Lita Roza and Al Timothy (1955)[21]
"Killing an Arab" – The Cure (1979) (banned during Gulf War)[3]
"Kodachrome" – Paul Simon (1973)[55]
L
"Landing of the Daleks" – The Earthlings (1965)[56]
"La Petite Tonkinoise" – Josephine Baker (1930)[21]
"Lazy Mary" – Lou Monte (1958)[23]
"Leader of the Pack" – The Shangri-Las (1964)[57]
"Let the People Go" – McGuinness Flint (1972)[49]
"Let's Spend the Night Together" – The Rolling Stones (1967)[3]
"Light a Candle in the Chapel" – Frank Sinatra (1942)[21]
"Lili Marleen" – Lale Andersen (1939)[23]
"Little Star" – The Elegants (1958)[23]
"Lola" – The Kinks (1970)[3]
Lostprophets' discography (2001–2012)[58]
"Love for Sale" – Cole Porter (1930)[42]
"Love for Sale" – Ella Fitzgerald (1956)[21]
"Love Is" – Alma Cogan (1958)[23]
"Love Is Strange" – Mickey & Sylvia (1956)[21]
"Love to Love You Baby" – Donna Summer (1975)[18]
"Lovin' Machine" – Wynonie Harris (1951)[23]
"Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" – The Beatles (1967)[14][note 2]
M
"Mack the Knife" – Bobby Darin (1959)[59]
"Made You" – Adam Faith (1960)[60]
"Maggie May" – The Vipers Skiffle Group (1957)[21]
"The Man with the Golden Arm" – Eddie Calvert (1956)[6]
"Maybellene" – Chuck Berry (1955)[61]
"Mighty Mighty Man" – Bobby Darin (1958)[23]
"Minnie the Moocher" – Cab Calloway (1931)[21]
"Miss You" – Bing Crosby (1942)[23]
"Mix-A-Fix" – Haydock's Rockhouse (1967)[62]
"The Mocking Bird" – The Four Lads (1958)[23]
"Monster Mash" – Bobby "Boris" Pickett and the Crypt-Kickers (1962)[63]
"Moonlight Love" – Perry Como (1956)[23]
"My Christmas Prayer" – Billy Fury (1959)[1]
"My Friend" – Eddie Fisher (1954)[21]
"My Friend Jack" – The Smoke (1967)[1]
"My Generation" – The Who (1965)[64]
"My Little Ukulele" – Joe Brown and The Bruvvers (1963)[65]
N
"Night of the Vampire" – The Moontrekkers (1961)[14]
"Ninety-Nine Years (Dead or Alive)" – Guy Mitchell (1956)[23]
"Nobody Loves Like an Irishman" – Lonnie Donegan (1958)[23]
O
"The Old Dope Peddler" – Tom Lehrer (1953)[21]
"Old Man Atom" – The Sons of the Pioneers (1950)[23]
"One Has My Name (The Other Has My Heart)" – Jimmy Wakely (1948)[23]
P
"Paper Doll" – The Mills Brothers (1943)[1]
"Peaches" – The Stranglers (1977)[66]
"Peaceful Street" – Ernest Butcher (1936)[23]
"Please No Squeeza da Banana" – Louis Prima (1945)[23]
R
"Radio Times" – The BBC Dance Orchestra (1935)[21]
"The Reefer Song (If You're a Viper)" – Fats Waller (1943)[23]
"Relax" – Frankie Goes to Hollywood (1984)[10]
"Respectable Street" – XTC (1981)[67]
"Rock You Sinners" – Art Baxter and His Rock 'n' Roll Sinners (1958)[21]
"A Rose and a Baby Ruth" – George Hamilton IV (1956)[21]
"Rum and Coca-Cola" – The Andrews Sisters (1945)[21]
"A Russian Love Song" – The Goons (1957)[23]
S
"The Sabre Dance" – Woody Herman (1948)[21]
"Sad Affair" – Marxman (1993)[49]
"Saturday Nite at the Duckpond" – The Cougars (1963)[2]
"Say a Prayer for the Boys Over There" – Deanna Durbin (1943)[21]
"Send Me to the 'Lectric Chair" – George Melly (1953)[21]
"Sex & Drugs & Rock & Roll" – Ian Dury (1977)[68][69]
"The Shag (Is Totally Cool)" – Billy Graves (1958)[23]
"Shall We Take a Trip" – Northside (1990)[70]
"She Had to Go and Lose It at the Astor" – Johnny Messner (1939)[21]
"She Was Only a Postmaster's Daughter" – Durium Dance Band (1933)[23]
"Silent Running (On Dangerous Ground)" – Mike and the Mechanics (1985)[71]
"The Silver Madonna" – Kirk Stevens (1957)[21]
"Sincerely" – Liberace (1955)[21]
"Sink the Bismark – Johnny Horton (1960)[56]
"Six Months in a Leaky Boat" – Split Enz (1982) (banned during Falklands War)[72]
"Sixty Minute Man" – The Dominoes (1951)[21]
"The Sky" – Petula Clark (1957)[21]
"Smack My Bitch Up" – The Prodigy (1997)[12][13][note 3]
"Song of India" – Tommy Dorsey (1938)[21]
"So What?" – Anti-Nowhere League (1981)[14]
"Soldier" – Harvey Andrews (1972)[50]
"Somebody Up There Likes Me" – Perry Como (1956)[23]
"A Souvenir of London" – Procol Harum (1973)[73]
"Space Oddity – David Bowie (1969)[56]
"Spasticus Autisticus" – Ian Dury and the Blockheads (1981)[47]
"Statue of Liberty" – XTC (1978)[74]
"St. Therese of the Roses" – Malcolm Vaughan (1956)[75]
"The Story of a Starry Night" – Glenn Miller (1943)[21]
"The Story of Three Loves" – Ray Martin (1954)[21]
"Stranger in Paradise" – The Four Aces (1953)[1]
"Such a Night" – Johnnie Ray (1954)[1]
"Summer Smash" – Denim (1997)[1]
T
"Take Off Your Clothes" – Peter Sarstedt (1969)[76]
"Teen Angel" – Mark Dinning (1959)[57]
"Teen Age Prayer" – Gale Storm (1955)[6]
"Tell Laura I Love Her" – Ray Peterson (1960)[57]
"Tell Laura I Love Her" – Ricky Valance (1960)[77]
"Terry" – Twinkle (1964)[57]
"The Test of Time" – Robert Earl (1959)[23]
"A Theme from the Threepenny Orchestra (Mack the Knife)" – Louis Armstrong (1956)[21]
"Three Stars" – Ruby Wright (1959)[23]
"'Til the Following Night" – Screaming Lord Sutch (1961)[78]
"Till the End of Time" – Perry Como (1945)[21]
"Ting Tong Tang" – Ken Platt (1958)[23]
"To Keep My Love Alive" – Ella Fitzgerald (1956)[23]
"Toll the Bell Easy" – Les Hobeaux (1957)[21]
"The Tommy Rot Story" – Morris & Mitch (1957)[23]
"Too Drunk to fudge" – Dead Kennedys (1981)[79]
"Tribute to Buddy Holly" – Mike Berry and The Outlaws (1961)[80]
U
"The Unbeliever" – Guy Mitchell (1957)[21]
"Urban Guerrilla" – Hawkwind (1973)[81]
V
"The Voice in My Heart" – Eydie Gormé (1958)[23]
W
"Walk Hand in Hand" – Tony Martin (1956)[21]
"Walking on Water" – Eliza Doolittle (2013)[33]
"We Call It Acieed" – D-Mob (1988)[82]
"We Can't Let You Broadcast That" – Norman Long (1932)[1]
"(We Don't Need This) Fascist Groove Thang" – Heaven 17 (1981)[31]
"We Have to Be So Careful" – The Beverley Sisters (1953)[21]
"We Will All Go Together When We Go" – Tom Lehrer (1959)[23]
"Wet Dream" – Max Romeo (1969)[83]
"When I'm Cleaning Windows" – George Formby (1936)[84]
"When Your Lights Turned On" - The Hollies (1967)[85]
"Whoa Buck" – Lonnie Donegan (1959)[23]
"With My Little Stick of Blackpool Rock" – George Formby (1937)[21]
"With My Little Ukulele in My Hand" – George Formby (1933)[21]
"Woman Love" – Gene Vincent (1956)[21]
"A Worried Man" – The Kingston Trio (1959)[23]
Y
"You'll Get Yours" – Frank Sinatra (1956)[23]
Gulf War blacklist
As the first Gulf War began, the BBC deemed several songs inappropriate for airplay in light of the situation and subsequently banned them from their radio stations for the duration of the war. A list of sixty-seven banned songs was published by New Statesman and Society in conjunction with British public-service television broadcaster Channel 4.[citation needed] The Cure's "Killing an Arab" is absent from the list, but is known to have been banned in connection with the Gulf War.[3]

Song Artist Year
"(I Just) Died in Your Arms" Cutting Crew 1986
"Act of War" Elton John and Millie Jackson 1985
"Armed and Extremely Dangerous" First Choice 1973
"Army Dreamers" Kate Bush 1980
"Atomic" Blondie 1979
"Back in the U.S.S.R" The Beatles 1968
"Ball of Confusion (That's What the World Is Today)" The Temptations 1970
"Bang Bang" B. A. Robertson 1979
"Bang Bang (My Baby Shot Me Down)" Cher 1966
"Billy Don't Be a Hero" Paper Lace 1974
"Boom Bang-a-Bang" Lulu 1969
"Brothers in Arms" Dire Straits 1985
"Buffalo Soldier" Bob Marley and the Wailers 1983
"Burning Bridges" Status Quo 1988
"The End of the World" Skeeter Davis 1962
"Everybody Wants to Rule the World" Tears for Fears 1985
"Fields of Fire" Big Country 1982
"Fire" The Crazy World of Arthur Brown 1968
"Flash" Queen 1980
"Fools Rush In" Ricky Nelson 1963
"Forget Me Not" Martha and the Vandellas 1968
"Ghost Town" The Specials 1981
"Gimme Hope Jo'anna" Eddy Grant 1988
"Give Peace a Chance" Plastic Ono Band 1969
"Heaven Help Us All" Stevie Wonder 1979
"Hunting High and Low" A-ha 1985
"I Don't Like Mondays" The Boomtown Rats 1979
"I Don't Want to Be a Hero" Johnny Hates Jazz 1987
"I Shot the Sheriff" Eric Clapton 1974
"I Will Survive" Arrival 1980
"I'll Fly for You" Spandau Ballet 1984
"I'm Gonna Get Me a Gun" Cat Stevens 1967
"I'm on Fire" Bruce Springsteen 1984
"Imagine" John Lennon 1971
"In the Air Tonight" Phil Collins 1981
"In the Army Now" Status Quo 1986
"Israelites" Desmond Dekker and the Aces 1968
"Killer Queen" Queen 1974
"Killing Me Softly with His Song" Roberta Flack 1973
"Light My Fire" José Feliciano 1968
"A Little Peace" Nicole 1982
"Living on the Front Line" Eddy Grant 1979
"Love Is a Battlefield" Pat Benatar 1983
"Midnight at the Oasis" Maria Muldaur 1974
"The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down" Joan Baez 1971
"Oliver's Army" Elvis Costello 1979
"Rubber Bullets" 10cc 1973
"Ruby, Don't Take Your Love to Town" Kenny Rogers and The First Edition 1969
"Sailing" Rod Stewart 1972
"Saturday Night's Alright for Fighting" Elton John 1973
"Silent Running (On Dangerous Ground)" Mike + The Mechanics 1985
"Sixty Eight Guns" The Alarm 1983
"Soldier of Love" Donny Osmond 1989
"State of Independence" Donna Summer 1982
"Stop the Cavalry" Jona Lewie 1980
"Suicide Is Painless" M*A*S*H 1970
"Two Tribes" Frankie Goes to Hollywood 1984
"Under Attack" ABBA 1982
"A View to a Kill" Duran Duran 1985
"Walk Like an Egyptian" The Bangles 1986
"War" Edwin Starr 1970
"War Baby" Tom Robinson 1982
"Warpaint" The Brook Brothers 1961
"Waterloo" ABBA 1974
"We Gotta Get Out of This Place" The Animals 1965
"When I'm Dead and Gone" McGuinness Flint 1970
"When the Going Gets Tough, the Tough Get Going" Billy Ocean 1985
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Lenny wrote:Funnily enough, I was listening to Johnny Cash on my headphones when out for a walk yesterday and was wondering when they’d get around to banning most of his songs. If he isn’t beating the shit out of, or shooting, some guy in a bar he’s beating the shit out of, or shooting, his wife/girlfriend in various locations. Can’t be long before half his songs are in old storage.
Even a few Beatles songs make reference to hitting women. Getting better, Run for your life.
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I am many confused. You lamented that old Johnny Cash songs will be banned and think a list of songs from previous times, when song banning seemed far more common than it is today, is somehow supporting your position? Did I misunderstand? If Cash wasn’t banned in the 60’s and 70’s, he’s probably not going to bother the...... well, whomever it is that bans songs these days.

What’s more, who the hell are the BBC? Can they ban songs or just refuse to play them? Do they call the shots for the other stations in a censoring role? You’re all over the place, mate. Go have a lie down and come back with a better woke strawman to burn.
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eldanielfire wrote:
Lenny wrote:Funnily enough, I was listening to Johnny Cash on my headphones when out for a walk yesterday and was wondering when they’d get around to banning most of his songs. If he isn’t beating the shit out of, or shooting, some guy in a bar he’s beating the shit out of, or shooting, his wife/girlfriend in various locations. Can’t be long before half his songs are in old storage.
Even a few Beatles songs make reference to hitting women. Getting better, Run for your life.
One Beatles song mentioned fingering girls in summer time. Wouldn’t get away with that filth in this day and age. x(
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Towny - defender of woke culture
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towny wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Lenny wrote:Funnily enough, I was listening to Johnny Cash on my headphones when out for a walk yesterday and was wondering when they’d get around to banning most of his songs. If he isn’t beating the shit out of, or shooting, some guy in a bar he’s beating the shit out of, or shooting, his wife/girlfriend in various locations. Can’t be long before half his songs are in old storage.
Even a few Beatles songs make reference to hitting women. Getting better, Run for your life.
One Beatles song mentioned fingering girls in summer time. Wouldn’t get away with that filth in this day and age. x(
It's a springtime action for you then?
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Derwyn wrote:Towny - defender of woke culture
:lol:
Not sure who the f*ck you are. Do you have a point, cnut? If you do, perhaps you can try hard to articulate it better. I don’t mind slapping you around, but you have to make it worth my while.
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towny wrote:
Derwyn wrote:Towny - defender of woke culture
:lol:
Not sure who the f*ck you are. Do you have a point, cnut? If you do, perhaps you can try hard to articulate it better. I don’t mind slapping you around, but you have to make it worth my while.
I’ll shove my two feet so far up your arse that when you brush your teeth you’ll be polishing my shoes.
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How stupid do you have to be to think Delilah is trivialising domestic violence?


"Why dont we sing what's new pussy cat instead?". Er, maybe because its f**king shit.
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New guy wrote:How stupid do you have to be to think Delilah is trivialising domestic violence?


"Why dont we sing what's new pussy cat instead?". Er, maybe because its f**king shit.
Sad that churnalists like Carolyn Hitt make a living writing the drivel they do.
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Derwyn wrote:
towny wrote:
Derwyn wrote:Towny - defender of woke culture
:lol:
Not sure who the f*ck you are. Do you have a point, cnut? If you do, perhaps you can try hard to articulate it better. I don’t mind slapping you around, but you have to make it worth my while.
I’ll shove my two feet so far up your arse that when you brush your teeth you’ll be polishing my shoes.
Sure thing. I wonder if shit like that was ever considered funny or tough or whatever effect you hoped to achieve. Take it easy 👋
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Sure thing, snowflake. Try not to bore us with more of your crap surveys, eh?
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Has anyone had a pop at Waltzing Matilda yet? The songs about some poor tramp getting chased to his death by the police.

Doesn't seem appropriate in the year 2020.
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Was bored the other day and watched the Euro 96 re-run of England beating the Netherlands 4-1, the England fans were singing Swing Low during that match which was very odd as I'd only ever heard England rugby fans singing it.
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Derwyn wrote:Sure thing, snowflake. Try not to bore us with more of your crap surveys, eh?
Over 200 people took the time to help me with that.

You’re not very good as this spite stuff.
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It was an interesting survey :thumbup:
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JM2K6 wrote:It was an interesting survey :thumbup:
Thank you for saying that!!
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towny wrote:
Derwyn wrote:Sure thing, snowflake. Try not to bore us with more of your crap surveys, eh?
Over 200 people took the time to help me with that.

You’re not very good as this spite stuff.
Maybe it was the same person 200 times. Ever thought of that? Hah!
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message #2527204 wrote:
towny wrote:
Derwyn wrote:Sure thing, snowflake. Try not to bore us with more of your crap surveys, eh?
Over 200 people took the time to help me with that.

You’re not very good as this spite stuff.
Maybe it was the same person 200 times. Ever thought of that? Hah!
Classic naki behaviour.
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JM2K6 wrote:It was an interesting survey :thumbup:

I thought it was OK, yeah.
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"The Cover of Rolling Stone" – Dr. Hook & the Medicine Show
Why did this one get banned? Unrealistically aspirational?
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