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Shrekles wrote:
"The Cover of Rolling Stone" – Dr. Hook & the Medicine Show
Why did this one get banned? Unrealistically aspirational?
:lol:

Not familiar with the song? They sing about pills, cocaine Katie, and groupies that’ll do anything they say. There are far more obscure bannings on that list.
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mr bungle wrote:
Shrekles wrote:
"The Cover of Rolling Stone" – Dr. Hook & the Medicine Show
Why did this one get banned? Unrealistically aspirational?
:lol:

Not familiar with the song? They sing about pills, cocaine Katie, and groupies that’ll do anything they say. There are far more obscure bannings on that list.
It is a pretty random list that is for sure.
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Space Oddity for one. Assume it made the list after a NASA accident?
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mr bungle wrote:Space Oddity for one. Assume it made the list after a NASA accident?
Seemingly not...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/music/articles/46 ... ffb0781bea
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eldanielfire wrote:
Lenny wrote:Funnily enough, I was listening to Johnny Cash on my headphones when out for a walk yesterday and was wondering when they’d get around to banning most of his songs. If he isn’t beating the shit out of, or shooting, some guy in a bar he’s beating the shit out of, or shooting, his wife/girlfriend in various locations. Can’t be long before half his songs are in old storage.
Even a few Beatles songs make reference to hitting women. Getting better, Run for your life.
John Lennon writing from experience.
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mr bungle wrote:
mr bungle wrote:Space Oddity for one. Assume it made the list after a NASA accident?
Seemingly not...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/music/articles/46 ... ffb0781bea
Boom-bang-a-bang? Lulu's eurovision smash was banned during the gulf war?
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UncleFB wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Lenny wrote:Funnily enough, I was listening to Johnny Cash on my headphones when out for a walk yesterday and was wondering when they’d get around to banning most of his songs. If he isn’t beating the shit out of, or shooting, some guy in a bar he’s beating the shit out of, or shooting, his wife/girlfriend in various locations. Can’t be long before half his songs are in old storage.
Even a few Beatles songs make reference to hitting women. Getting better, Run for your life.
John Lennon writing from experience.
Ouch.....but perfectly true.
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mr bungle wrote:
Shrekles wrote:
"The Cover of Rolling Stone" – Dr. Hook & the Medicine Show
Why did this one get banned? Unrealistically aspirational?
:lol:

Not familiar with the song? They sing about pills, cocaine Katie, and groupies that’ll do anything they say. There are far more obscure bannings on that list.
That's not why they banned it, though. From Wiki;
BBC Radio refused to play the song, as it contained the name of a commercial publication (Rolling Stone) and could therefore be considered advertising. An urban legend states that the song was re-recorded by the band as "The Cover of the Radio Times", the weekly television and radio guide published by the BBC; however, this is disputed by Dennis Locorriere, Dr. Hook's co-lead singer. "Legend has it that we went into a studio and re-recorded the song. What actually happened was that a bunch of BBC disc jockeys went into a studio and shouted 'RADIO TIMES' over our original chorus," Locorriere said. "It's the same recording that we released but with the addition of their voices layered on top of ours. You can, however, still hear us singing 'Rolling Stone,' but way in the background, under their voices." The new version was rush-released in the UK, but did not find its way onto the charts there.[3] However the band's UK publicists took advantage of the BBC's uptight attitude by advertising the single in the UK music press as "the first banned single of 1973".

Also, from Delilah's Wiki;
When Jones performed the song on The Ed Sullivan Show, the censors insisted that the line "At break of day when the man drove away" be changed to "At break of day I was still 'cross the way", as the original version implied he had spent the night with Delilah. Jones later described the change as "such bullshit"
So the censors were fine with the song being about stabbing a woman to death, but suggesting that it was after she'd had a gentleman caller? That's a no-no.
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DOB wrote:
mr bungle wrote:
Shrekles wrote:
"The Cover of Rolling Stone" – Dr. Hook & the Medicine Show
Why did this one get banned? Unrealistically aspirational?
:lol:

Not familiar with the song? They sing about pills, cocaine Katie, and groupies that’ll do anything they say. There are far more obscure bannings on that list.
That's not why they banned it, though. From Wiki;
BBC Radio refused to play the song, as it contained the name of a commercial publication (Rolling Stone) and could therefore be considered advertising. An urban legend states that the song was re-recorded by the band as "The Cover of the Radio Times", the weekly television and radio guide published by the BBC; however, this is disputed by Dennis Locorriere, Dr. Hook's co-lead singer. "Legend has it that we went into a studio and re-recorded the song. What actually happened was that a bunch of BBC disc jockeys went into a studio and shouted 'RADIO TIMES' over our original chorus," Locorriere said. "It's the same recording that we released but with the addition of their voices layered on top of ours. You can, however, still hear us singing 'Rolling Stone,' but way in the background, under their voices." The new version was rush-released in the UK, but did not find its way onto the charts there.[3] However the band's UK publicists took advantage of the BBC's uptight attitude by advertising the single in the UK music press as "the first banned single of 1973".

Also, from Delilah's Wiki;
When Jones performed the song on The Ed Sullivan Show, the censors insisted that the line "At break of day when the man drove away" be changed to "At break of day I was still 'cross the way", as the original version implied he had spent the night with Delilah. Jones later described the change as "such bullshit"
So the censors were fine with the song being about stabbing a woman to death, but suggesting that it was after she'd had a gentleman caller? That's a no-no.
American censorship is all about sex. Violence and gore is pretty much allowed - even obligatory - as it sells guns.
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towny wrote:
Derwyn wrote:Sure thing, snowflake. Try not to bore us with more of your crap surveys, eh?
Over 200 people took the time to help me with that.

You’re not very good as this spite stuff.
How many people help you with getting dressed, as Derwyn says don't bore us with lists you flake,
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Well said, Clive! :thumbup:
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Clive wrote:
towny wrote:
Derwyn wrote:Sure thing, snowflake. Try not to bore us with more of your crap surveys, eh?
Over 200 people took the time to help me with that.

You’re not very good as this spite stuff.
How many people help you with getting dressed, as Derwyn says don't bore us with lists you flake,
:lol:

Just so you know, I am very popular and can prove it.
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eldanielfire wrote:
UncleFB wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Lenny wrote:Funnily enough, I was listening to Johnny Cash on my headphones when out for a walk yesterday and was wondering when they’d get around to banning most of his songs. If he isn’t beating the shit out of, or shooting, some guy in a bar he’s beating the shit out of, or shooting, his wife/girlfriend in various locations. Can’t be long before half his songs are in old storage.
Even a few Beatles songs make reference to hitting women. Getting better, Run for your life.
John Lennon writing from experience.
Ouch.....but perfectly true.
Of course it’s true. Lennon specifically said the songs were about him being abusive.
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towny wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
UncleFB wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Lenny wrote:Funnily enough, I was listening to Johnny Cash on my headphones when out for a walk yesterday and was wondering when they’d get around to banning most of his songs. If he isn’t beating the shit out of, or shooting, some guy in a bar he’s beating the shit out of, or shooting, his wife/girlfriend in various locations. Can’t be long before half his songs are in old storage.
Even a few Beatles songs make reference to hitting women. Getting better, Run for your life.
John Lennon writing from experience.
Ouch.....but perfectly true.
Of course it’s true. Lennon specifically said the songs were about him being abusive.

I hope to fvck that cvnt hasn't got any statues of himself dotted around anywhere. :x :x
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Clogs wrote:

I hope to fvck that cvnt hasn't got any statues of himself dotted around anywhere. :x :x
We should burn Liverpool down just to be sure.

A weird thing though isthe old time rock stars always seem to be the celebrities imune to social movements and naming of bad acts. I'm surprised nothing in the #metoo has come up about them, despite the fact we know some slept with underage girls and groupies and treated them quite badly. Wasn't it Robert page who ahd a 114 yera old kipnapped for sex after Bowie was finished with her? Wasn't the leader singer of the Doors racist against black people?
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eldanielfire wrote:
Clogs wrote:

I hope to fvck that cvnt hasn't got any statues of himself dotted around anywhere. :x :x
We should burn Liverpool down just to be sure.

A weird thing though isthe old time rock stars always seem to be the celebrities imune to social movements and naming of bad acts. I'm surprised nothing in the #metoo has come up about them, despite the fact we know some slept with underage girls and groupies and treated them quite badly. Wasn't it Robert page who ahd a 114 yera old kipnapped for sex after Bowie was finished with her? Wasn't the leader singer of the Doors racist against black people?
114? Sounds like Fatcat
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eldanielfire wrote:
Clogs wrote:

I hope to fvck that cvnt hasn't got any statues of himself dotted around anywhere. :x : x
We should burn Liverpool down just to be sure.

A weird thing though isthe old time rock stars always seem to be the celebrities imune to social movements and naming of bad acts. I'm surprised nothing in the #metoo has come up about them, despite the fact we know some slept with underage girls and groupies and treated them quite badly. Wasn't it Robert page who ahd a 114 yera old kipnapped for sex after Bowie was finished with her? Wasn't the leader singer of the Doors racist against black people?
Jimmy Page played with 14 year olds.

I wouldn’t worry too much about what an attention seeking Jim Morrison bleated occasionally while off his face.
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mr bungle wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Clogs wrote:

I hope to fvck that cvnt hasn't got any statues of himself dotted around anywhere. :x : x
We should burn Liverpool down just to be sure.

A weird thing though isthe old time rock stars always seem to be the celebrities imune to social movements and naming of bad acts. I'm surprised nothing in the #metoo has come up about them, despite the fact we know some slept with underage girls and groupies and treated them quite badly. Wasn't it Robert page who ahd a 114 yera old kipnapped for sex after Bowie was finished with her? Wasn't the leader singer of the Doors racist against black people?
Jimmy Page played with 14 year olds.

I wouldn’t worry too much about what an attention seeking Jim Morrison bleated occasionally while off his face.
I don't think that makes it ok.
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We know for a fact that all these rockstars had sex with minors even though there are no complainants? Sounds legit.

And you’ve found a racist from the 60’s you want to hang for being racist? Fair call. I wonder what proportion of people weren’t racist in the 60’s. I wonder how Mother Theresa will be shredded by the vegan moralities of future generations. Maybe we will all look like scum because we kill flies in the house.

Judging people based on today’s standards and values is imbecilic and naive. Don’t get me wrong, if anyone is genuinely offended by the public bust to the KKK founder or a confederate general, I think it should be removed. But this looking around for people to tear down on behalf of someone else that might be offended is ludicrous and tiresome. The ‘left’ is f*cking up their big chance here by acting like the fuckwit SJWs the right always claimed they were. Piss-ants
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towny wrote:We know for a fact that all these rockstars had sex with minors even though there are no complainants? Sounds legit.

And you’ve found a racist from the 60’s you want to hang for being racist? Fair call. I wonder what proportion of people weren’t racist in the 60’s. I wonder how Mother Theresa will be shredded by the vegan moralities of future generations. Maybe we will all look like scum because we kill flies in the house.

Judging people based on today’s standards and values is imbecilic and naive. Don’t get me wrong, if anyone is genuinely offended by the public bust to the KKK founder or a confederate general, I think it should be removed. But this looking around for people to tear down on behalf of someone else that might be offended is ludicrous and tiresome. The ‘left’ is f*cking up their big chance here by acting like the fuckwit SJWs the right always claimed they were. Piss-ants
Any more obvious statements up your sleeve?
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towny wrote: I wonder how Mother Theresa will be shredded by the vegan moralities of future generations.
There's already an entire Wikipedia page devoted to criticism of the Baby Doc/Junta-supporting, religious fundamentalist.
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eldanielfire wrote:
mr bungle wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Clogs wrote:

I hope to fvck that cvnt hasn't got any statues of himself dotted around anywhere. :x : x
We should burn Liverpool down just to be sure.

A weird thing though isthe old time rock stars always seem to be the celebrities imune to social movements and naming of bad acts. I'm surprised nothing in the #metoo has come up about them, despite the fact we know some slept with underage girls and groupies and treated them quite badly. Wasn't it Robert page who ahd a 114 yera old kipnapped for sex after Bowie was finished with her? Wasn't the leader singer of the Doors racist against black people?
Jimmy Page played with 14 year olds.

I wouldn’t worry too much about what an attention seeking Jim Morrison bleated occasionally while off his face.
I don't think that makes it ok.
True, but there's hardly anything concrete about what was said and to whom.
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mr bungle wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
mr bungle wrote:
eldanielfire wrote:
Clogs wrote:

I hope to fvck that cvnt hasn't got any statues of himself dotted around anywhere. :x : x
We should burn Liverpool down just to be sure.

A weird thing though isthe old time rock stars always seem to be the celebrities imune to social movements and naming of bad acts. I'm surprised nothing in the #metoo has come up about them, despite the fact we know some slept with underage girls and groupies and treated them quite badly. Wasn't it Robert page who ahd a 114 yera old kipnapped for sex after Bowie was finished with her? Wasn't the leader singer of the Doors racist against black people?
Jimmy Page played with 14 year olds.

I wouldn’t worry too much about what an attention seeking Jim Morrison bleated occasionally while off his face.
I don't think that makes it ok.
True, but there's hardly anything concrete about what was said and to whom.
And what are we going to do - dig him up and cancel him?
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Ghost-Of-Nepia wrote:
And what are we going to do - dig him up and cancel him?
Nah, we are just having a discussion on the matter.
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