my 2 cents wrote: JM2K6 wrote:
my 2 cents wrote:It may well be. Doesn’t mean it has to be pulled down. He was an important man in Bristols history for bad and good.
The bad was very bad and had been completely whitewashed with any attempts to alter that squashed.
Okay then, I want the statue of Oliver Cromwell taken down from Parliament on account of the thousands of Irishmen died because of him
Fine by me. Glorifying these people is a nonsense to begin with.
I certainly don't think the world be worse off for publicly acknowledging some of the heinous shit these people did.
That’s where you and I disagree. I don’t think Cromwell should be taken down nor do I think Coulson one should be.
It's not that I think Cromwell should be taken down. It's that I would not give a shit if he was, because glorifying and hero-worshipping people who've been responsible for some pretty nasty shit is dumb.
These are hand-crafted relics of history depicting men with all their faults. Not all good (clearly), but also not all bad. We can surely evaluate these items as adults. Each statue tells part of the story of Britain. Do we erase that? Is a statue celebrating that really. History will be the judge of them. Is it fair that future generations can’t also look at Coulson and incredulously question how seemingly respectable humans acted in such a depraved manner?
But this is the bullshit part. The statue of Colston does not depict him with his faults. It literally ignores his role as a slave trader and simply glorifies what he did with the money he earned as a slave trader.
Needing to protect the Churchill statue which was also under threat? In Britain??
This cultish behaviour is trying to erase history (with all its faults). As we all know, if we can’t learn from history we are consigned to make the same mistakes.
??? The Churchill statue thing was an invention. It gets graffitied at every protest. It's been boarded up on several occasions.
If you put up monuments to men who've done some great things and some horrific things, expect pushback. It's precisely because
statues hide the downside of the history that they can attract this anger.
Statues are not history. Not having a statue to Hitler doesn't mean we can't learn what he did and why he was so bad.
I seem to recall the same happened in Nazi Germany, during communism in Eastern Europe and Russia, never mind Mao’s China.
People need to be a bit more grown up about history frankly
I'm sure they would be if it wasn't quite so one-sided.