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For me the top 3 RWCs were
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11 (though Joubert's disgrace spoiled it)
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Best RWC so far. Even the typhoon was a pretty exciting factor.

Two nitpicky memories.
1: no alternative for typhoon affected games, although I'm not sure what the could really have done. Be nice to think you could just move the whole gig a few hundred kilometers away and carry on as normal, I'm sure the reasons why it didn't happen are justified.
2: the high tackle drama of pool matches. That kind of madness should have been sorted between cycles so it's all clear and totally sorted heading into the showcase tourney.
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Floppykid wrote:For me the top 3 RWCs were
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11 (though Joubert's disgrace spoiled it)
Too young for 1995?
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2011 was the worst. It was like watching something out of the Soviet Union. Kick off times were a mess too.
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2011 was my personal favourite. I was in university so could set my alarm for 4 am, roll out of bed, watch Wales hammer Fiji and then go back to sleep for another 5 hours. Perfect. :thumbup:

Would be a nightmare now mind.
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mr bungle wrote:
Floppykid wrote:For me the top 3 RWCs were
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15
11 (though Joubert's disgrace spoiled it)
Too young for 1995?
I was 4.
Actually swap out 11 for 99.
Just because the final of 11, well, you know.
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Floppykid wrote:
mr bungle wrote:
Floppykid wrote:For me the top 3 RWCs were
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15
11 (though Joubert's disgrace spoiled it)
Too young for 1995?
I was 4.
Actually swap out 11 for 99.
Just because the final of 11, well, you know.
It was awesome. Sunny, hard tracks. NZ changing the way the game was played. SA getting up and the unity on some levels the game engendered.
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Jim Lahey wrote:Yeah England’s demolition job on NZ in the semi was a classic in terms of strategy.
The 12-point gap in the end was incredibly flattering to NZ.

England played the perfect game, except for that botched lineout that gifted the Darkness a consolation try.
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Average Joe wrote:Not true until Kiwias agrees.
:lol: My exact thoughts when reading title.
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They missed COVID19 by a few months.
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Floppykid wrote:
handyman wrote:
Floppykid wrote:Probably never. We're a joke at world cups, especially Japan. That'll be a permanent embarrassment.

I'm totally neutral in assessing the quality of the rest of it.
Explain the boring winner? South Africa came from nowhere to win it, playing a kicking game through-out, but changing in the final to a more expansive game, scoring 2 great tries.
You guys won, ye did it cynical and blood and guts, winning rugby.
You don't have to be the most flash rugby either.
Try be a little less precious about a tournament SA won.
Cynical, blood and guts rugby in the final? Seems you missed it boet.
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Jim Lahey wrote:Yeah England’s demolition job on NZ in the semi was a classic in terms of strategy.
The 12-point gap in the end was incredibly flattering to NZ.
An Eddie Jones masterclass perfectly executed by the players. NZ was lucky to get on the scoreboard.
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Best RWC I've attended. Was great to see the Japanese getting so in to it
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guy smiley wrote:
handyman wrote:
Floppykid wrote:Probably never. We're a joke at world cups, especially Japan. That'll be a permanent embarrassment.

I'm totally neutral in assessing the quality of the rest of it.
Explain the boring winner? South Africa came from nowhere to win it, playing a kicking game through-out, but changing in the final to a more expansive game, scoring 2 great tries.
Came from nowhere?

:lol: :lol:

Most of us rated them as equal favourites before the tournament.

This is why they’re boring winners... planks like you.
You're having a laugh boet. We were utter shite for years with Coetzee setting records for the wrong reasons.

Equal favorites :lol:
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Nieghorn wrote:
Average Joe wrote:Not true until Kiwias agrees.
I wondered if he'd penned this: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/ ... y-in-japan
It was a remarkable tournament, despite a range of issues that every tournament faces (different ones of course). The participation of the locals was a genuine surprise to pretty much everyone I know but they really did get stuck into it, the performance of their team naturally being a big boost.

To get through a massive typhoon with only three games cancelled was a superb achievement.

After all of that, the article in the Guardian is pretty much spot on. There has been no real boost, though covid-19 can be blamed for some of it but not all of it. The JRFU has lived up to its reputation for being incredibly inefficient.
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handyman wrote:
Jim Lahey wrote:Yeah England’s demolition job on NZ in the semi was a classic in terms of strategy.
The 12-point gap in the end was incredibly flattering to NZ.
An Eddie Jones masterclass perfectly executed by the players. NZ was lucky to get on the scoreboard.
There was a period after being utterly dominated where we were within a score or two from the lead. As fans watching we thought that remarkable considering the game England had played and how unworthy it would have been if we’d managed to get up.
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RWC should only ever be played in near perfect weather conditions, and should be moved to the best time of year depending on where its being hosted.
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mr bungle wrote:
handyman wrote:
Jim Lahey wrote:Yeah England’s demolition job on NZ in the semi was a classic in terms of strategy.
The 12-point gap in the end was incredibly flattering to NZ.
An Eddie Jones masterclass perfectly executed by the players. NZ was lucky to get on the scoreboard.
There was a period after being utterly dominated where we were within a score or two from the lead. As fans watching we thought that remarkable considering the game England had played and how unworthy it would have been if we’d managed to get up.
True. NZ will always be in a game, no matter how much the other team is dominating.
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WR almost wrecked the tournament with a ridiculous initiative to make any contact with the head or neck, no matter how light, accidental or incidental, a red card offense. This policy would have ruined the tournament had common sense no prevailed from the quarter final stages, and WR reverted back to the previously used interpretation.
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CrazyIslander wrote:
Average Joe wrote:Not true until Kiwias agrees.
:lol: My exact thoughts when reading title.
He said it would never work.
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I was over there for about 2 and a half weeks, attending 6 games, and had a great time, but it was far from perfect.

A lot of things were done really well but a few moans I would have, ranging in severity.

The cyclone contingency was a f**king joke. their 'robust plan' was just cancelling games.
Fan zones were a shambles. Way too small, and often way too few places to watch the games at. And if you didnt get into these, there was sweet fudge all to do except to try and jam way too many people into tiny bars.
Around matches, bizarre lack of bins and toilets (i know this is how they do it, but you need to predict how fans from all over will behave and it was carnage for a lot of these things)
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FravBront wrote:I was over there for about 2 and a half weeks, attending 6 games, and had a great time, but it was far from perfect.

A lot of things were done really well but a few moans I would have, ranging in severity.

The cyclone contingency was a f**king joke. their 'robust plan' was just cancelling games.
Fan zones were a shambles. Way too small, and often way too few places to watch the games at. And if you didnt get into these, there was sweet fudge all to do except to try and jam way too many people into tiny bars.
Around matches, bizarre lack of bins and toilets (i know this is how they do it, but you need to predict how fans from all over will behave and it was carnage for a lot of these things)
A mate said the same around their misunderstanding about western drinking culture, not that they dont drink, just differently ...or as much.
Hey the French had dry stadiums on 2007, they had better change that for the next one.
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grievous wrote:
CrazyIslander wrote:
Average Joe wrote:Not true until Kiwias agrees.
:lol: My exact thoughts when reading title.
He said it would never work.
No, I did not. I said it would be well organized and efficiently run, because that is what japan does. I did not expect the general public to get behind the tournament to the extent they did. I also argued that it would not generate any meaningful or long-lasting benefits for the sport here, given the utter incompetence of the JRFU.
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£2 million pledged for the Childfund Pass It Back programme, a partnership between Childfund, World Rugby, Asia Rugby and the JRFU
2.25 million people introduced to rugby in Asia via the Impact Beyond programme (769,000 children involved in tag rugby in elementary schools in Japan)
Significant infrastructure legacy for rugby and community sport, including the Kamaishi Recovery Memorial Stadium
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Average Joe wrote:
£2 million pledged for the Childfund Pass It Back programme, a partnership between Childfund, World Rugby, Asia Rugby and the JRFU
2.25 million people introduced to rugby in Asia via the Impact Beyond programme (769,000 children involved in tag rugby in elementary schools in Japan)
Significant infrastructure legacy for rugby and community sport, including the Kamaishi Recovery Memorial Stadium
They are unable to provide any credible source for the 769,000 children and offer no explanation for the lack of any path for any kids who wish to continue playing rugby. What we see is a bunch of kids playing tag rugby at primary school but almost none of them carrying on with it at junior high or high school. Naturally almost all of school rugby is played on harsh compacted gravelly sand.
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They just need a few more Kiwias shouting "Get of my lawn" and they'll be right as fok with some pitches.
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Kiwias wrote:
Average Joe wrote:
£2 million pledged for the Childfund Pass It Back programme, a partnership between Childfund, World Rugby, Asia Rugby and the JRFU
2.25 million people introduced to rugby in Asia via the Impact Beyond programme (769,000 children involved in tag rugby in elementary schools in Japan)
Significant infrastructure legacy for rugby and community sport, including the Kamaishi Recovery Memorial Stadium
They are unable to provide any credible source for the 769,000 children and offer no explanation for the lack of any path for any kids who wish to continue playing rugby. What we see is a bunch of kids playing tag rugby at primary school but almost none of them carrying on with it at junior high or high school. Naturally almost all of school rugby is played on harsh compacted gravelly sand.

Whenever I see those intro kids to rugby initiatives, they always seem to involve a lot of standing in lines waiting to have a go at exciting things like running 10m and passing sideways to one other kid before getting back in line for 2 mins.

First drill I found:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QirCpVBNozE
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Kiwias wrote:
grievous wrote:
CrazyIslander wrote:
Average Joe wrote:Not true until Kiwias agrees.
:lol: My exact thoughts when reading title.
He said it would never work.
No, I did not. I said it would be well organized and efficiently run, because that is what japan does. I did not expect the general public to get behind the tournament to the extent they did. I also argued that it would not generate any meaningful or long-lasting benefits for the sport here, given the utterly incompetence of the JRFU.
So nothing good has come out of it as a legacy?
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2011 was without a doubt the worst RWC. Blighted by refereeing errors, with some games played in stadiums barely fit for schoolboy rugby. It was sort of excusable in 1987, in 2011 it was a crime against rugby.
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Lemoentjie wrote:2011 was without a doubt the worst RWC. Blighted by refereeing errors, with some games played in stadiums barely fit for schoolboy rugby. It was sort of excusable in 1987, in 2011 it was a crime against rugby.
Don’t forget about the jokeshop refereeing.
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Floppykid wrote:Kolbe scored a try.
Epic stuff.
South Africa's first try in a final IIRC.
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Average Joe wrote:They just need a few more Kiwias shouting "Get of my lawn" and they'll be right as fok with some pitches.
I'd be shouting "Get on the grass!!!" (any one of the 3,600 grass playfields my NPO has installed nationwide)
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grievous wrote:
Kiwias wrote:
grievous wrote:
CrazyIslander wrote:
Average Joe wrote:Not true until Kiwias agrees.
:lol: My exact thoughts when reading title.
He said it would never work.
No, I did not. I said it would be well organized and efficiently run, because that is what japan does. I did not expect the general public to get behind the tournament to the extent they did. I also argued that it would not generate any meaningful or long-lasting benefits for the sport here, given the utterly incompetence of the JRFU.
So nothing good has come out of it as a legacy?
Nothing specific yet.
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Kiwias wrote:
Average Joe wrote:They just need a few more Kiwias shouting "Get of my lawn" and they'll be right as fok with some pitches.
I'd be shouting "Get on the grass!!!" (any one of the 3,600 grass playfields my NPO has installed nationwide)
I'm just giving you some shit. You do good work there boet, keep at it.
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Average Joe wrote:
Kiwias wrote:
Average Joe wrote:They just need a few more Kiwias shouting "Get of my lawn" and they'll be right as fok with some pitches.
I'd be shouting "Get on the grass!!!" (any one of the 3,600 grass playfields my NPO has installed nationwide)
I'm just giving you some shit. You do good work there boet, keep at it.
:thumbup:
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Uncle Fester wrote:
Floppykid wrote:Kolbe scored a try.
Epic stuff.
South Africa's first try in a final IIRC.
I was so entertained that try.
Made up for all the by the numbers, meat grinder rugby.
Epic.
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Uncle Fester wrote:
Floppykid wrote:Kolbe scored a try.
Epic stuff.
South Africa's first try in a final IIRC.
Well, besides this one, 7 minutes earlier:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WIiSJhXud7A

I’m starting to think the Irish may not have watched the knockout stages.
Can’t imagine why. :roll:
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Floppykid wrote:For me the top 3 RWCs were
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11 (though Joubert's disgrace spoiled it)
Him not sending the gouger off was pretty disgraceful but the game was won anyway so we can't be too hard on Joubert.
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The way Jamie Joseph got Japan playing was phenomenal.
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