Do you miss the times before the smart phone?

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I think 99% of us are addicted one way or another to modern tech. To our phones. Our iPads. Etc.

The improvement in phone’s mid 00s onwards was rather jaw dropping. Instantly captivated the consumer. To such an extent that society has never been quite the same. We had become zombified.

Also social meeja wasn’t really a thing.

Simpler times!
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I'm not addicted... he says after refreshing PR for the 50th time today.
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Derwyn wrote:I think 99% of us are addicted one way or another to modern tech. To our phones. Our iPads. Etc.

The improvement in phone’s mid 00s onwards was rather jaw dropping. Instantly captivated the consumer. To such an extent that society has never been quite the same. We had become zombified.

Also social meeja wasn’t really a thing.

Simpler times!
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Yes I do...I was sitting at a restaurant about a year ago and this group of teenage girls sat at the table beside me and they never talked...just texted or whatever on their phone and giggle and laughed. It really struck me how that is the norm.

And before, Derwyn, and I am talking at most 20 years, we would say, let's get together and have a few pints and watch the rugby. Now, a lot of people are more interested in where to check in, look at this photo of my new pint, etc..

Anyways, back to my 8 tracks and VCR :)
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They are designed to be addictive, it's not surprising. You can still 'save' yourself with some discipline. It's the full-on zombies you need to worry about.
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It’s rather sad really.

I try my best to be conscious of my phone activity especially when out socialising.

If I see some on their phones I’m not afraid to give ‘em a gentle word of encouragement to put them away.

Maybe it is just another generations world now. For some, being on phones constantly is all they know.
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For me no. This new age of information is f**king amazing. If it gives me a bent neck IDGAF.
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My wife and I have put some measures in place in the home (not at the dining table, not in the bedroom, not in front of the kids etc.) which have helped enormously.

I also have a policy with some friends/business associates when we're having a meal or a drink that the first person to check their phone pays the tab.

I'm no Luddite and see enormous value in being plugged in but agree a line needs to be walked to ensure it doesn't develop into addiction.
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ZappaMan wrote:My wife and I have put some measures in place in the home (not at the dining table, not in the bedroom, not in front of the kids etc.) which have helped enormously.

I also have a policy with some friends/business associates when we're having a meal or a drink that the first person to check their phone pays the tab.

I'm no Luddite and see enormous value in being plugged in but agree a line needs to be walked to ensure it doesn't develop into addiction.
My company does (maybe that should be did) a lot of those bonding things where they took us out for meals. Phones on silent and if call not an emergency you have to hang up. Those meals may not be in budget anytime soon.
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Still have a drinking rule that if anyone touches a phone, it goes out of the window. After one or two phones, you stop either taking it or touching it.
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God yes.

I try to explain to my lads that you used to be able to get away with almost anything because there was no social media and photos of everything, and all you had to do was deny everything. Happy days.

It’s also the reason young people are so hopeless without them. They never had to work anything out, use an A-Z, organise things, speak to people, and so on. Ironic how smart phones just make people thicker.
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Do I miss not being able to find HD porn of every description possible within a few seconds, for free ?
Hmmmm
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backrow wrote:Do I miss not being able to find HD porn of every description possible within a few seconds, for free ?
Hmmmm
Come on...think about all the exercise you are missing out on ...having to steal/take the magazine (penthouse jackpot) and strolling to the woods for a look :lol:
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Derwyn wrote:I think 99% of us are addicted one way or another to modern tech. To our phones. Our iPads. Etc.

The improvement in phone’s mid 00s onwards was rather jaw dropping. Instantly captivated the consumer. To such an extent that society has never been quite the same. We had become zombified.

Also social meeja wasn’t really a thing.

Simpler times!
Keeps me in a job
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iarmhiman wrote:
Derwyn wrote:I think 99% of us are addicted one way or another to modern tech. To our phones. Our iPads. Etc.

The improvement in phone’s mid 00s onwards was rather jaw dropping. Instantly captivated the consumer. To such an extent that society has never been quite the same. We had become zombified.

Also social meeja wasn’t really a thing.

Simpler times!
Keeps me in a job
Yeah #metoo :lol: hate the f**king things.
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tcc_dc wrote:
backrow wrote:Do I miss not being able to find HD porn of every description possible within a few seconds, for free ?
Hmmmm
Come on...think about all the exercise you are missing out on ...having to steal/take the magazine (penthouse jackpot) and strolling to the woods for a look :lol:
Bizarrely, never bought one until I was at uni, thanks to mates with older brothers getting rid of their stash when their bird moves in, to my Asian female platonic friend whose dad owned 3 newsagents in Berkshire, and used to bring in porn mags for us - when we in the last year at primary school !
:lol:
All of us, boys and girls, used to see these 1986 vintage hairy and shaved minges in Mayfair and Escort and just laugh and go” urrrrgh, her fanny has bits in it!” And other such clueless comments.


Was funny and naughty then but jayz, looking back that’s pretty messed up :lol:
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Punter15 wrote:God yes.

I try to explain to my lads that you used to be able to get away with almost anything because there was no social media and photos of everything, and all you had to do was deny everything. Happy days.

It’s also the reason young people are so hopeless without them. They never had to work anything out, use an A-Z, organise things, speak to people, and so on. Ironic how smart phones just make people thicker.
Something I was surprised by when I last worked in a secondary school... very superficial knowledge / problem solving ability with tech despite being phone addicted and a supposed "digital native with 21st century skills". Not all of them, but a LOT of students couldn't work out how to do certain not-too-difficult things in various apps or install programs following a seemingly logical series of steps like checking the menus and tables of options / reading carefully and following the directions on the screen. :?
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Nieghorn wrote:
Punter15 wrote:God yes.

I try to explain to my lads that you used to be able to get away with almost anything because there was no social media and photos of everything, and all you had to do was deny everything. Happy days.

It’s also the reason young people are so hopeless without them. They never had to work anything out, use an A-Z, organise things, speak to people, and so on. Ironic how smart phones just make people thicker.
Something I was surprised by when I last worked in a secondary school... very superficial knowledge / problem solving ability with tech despite being phone addicted and a supposed "digital native with 21st century skills". Not all of them, but a LOT of students couldn't work out how to do certain not-too-difficult things in various apps or install programs following a seemingly logical series of steps like checking the menus and tables of options / reading carefully and following the directions on the screen. :?
That’s not unique to kids today or anyone else. I’ve worked in IT for 20 years and 1/5 of all users can’t install software. They just have a block and quit/squeal for help.
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One of the most annoying things is folk calling off at the last minute by text. It used to be you were meeting your mates in the pub at 7 and there were absolutely no call offs after 6.30 as everyone had left the house. Now there are always “sorry lads, not going to make it” plum
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slick wrote:One of the most annoying things is folk calling off at the last minute by text. It used to be you were meeting your mates in the pub at 7 and there were absolutely no call offs after 6.30 as everyone had left the house. Now there are always “sorry lads, not going to make it” plum
Surely they just didn't turn up or would shit out straight away?



Love smart phones. Have so many apps I use for both jobs, cutting down the amount I'd need to carry around. Always have a book to read or TV to watch if I'm away. Can solve arguments in seconds.
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OptimisticJock wrote:Can solve arguments in seconds.
Are you new here?
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Sandstorm wrote:
Nieghorn wrote:
Punter15 wrote:God yes.

I try to explain to my lads that you used to be able to get away with almost anything because there was no social media and photos of everything, and all you had to do was deny everything. Happy days.

It’s also the reason young people are so hopeless without them. They never had to work anything out, use an A-Z, organise things, speak to people, and so on. Ironic how smart phones just make people thicker.
Something I was surprised by when I last worked in a secondary school... very superficial knowledge / problem solving ability with tech despite being phone addicted and a supposed "digital native with 21st century skills". Not all of them, but a LOT of students couldn't work out how to do certain not-too-difficult things in various apps or install programs following a seemingly logical series of steps like checking the menus and tables of options / reading carefully and following the directions on the screen. :?
That’s not unique to kids today or anyone else. I’ve worked in IT for 20 years and 1/5 of all users can’t install software. They just have a block and quit/squeal for help.
Those of us who grew up in the early days of IT and/or worked in the industry now so much more than todays young adults - they don't even know basic things like command prompts. I get frustrated with Apple devices as they are so locked down that it is almost impossible to diagnose faults. No f**king error logs or anything useful like that.
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happyhooker wrote:
OptimisticJock wrote:Can solve arguments in seconds.
Are you new here?
:lol:

Obviously I was talking about the real world where someone won't spend half an hour dredging through the Internet to find some dodgy tenuous link purely to be belligerent.
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ZappaMan wrote:My wife and I have put some measures in place in the home (not at the dining table, not in the bedroom, not in front of the kids etc.) which have helped enormously.

I also have a policy with some friends/business associates when we're having a meal or a drink that the first person to check their phone pays the tab.

I'm no Luddite and see enormous value in being plugged in but agree a line needs to be walked to ensure it doesn't develop into addiction.
So you now spend hours on the shitter, right?!?
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No, it is incredible technology and a powerful tool. What you are complaining about is poor manners which is a separate issue.

Being an older millennial I fit in the sweet spot of being blown away by the technology (which I couldn't have imagined as a kid) but not being afraid or bothered by it.
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My wife and I were out for dinner last night and the couple at the next table spent the entire time on their respective phones -- the only words they uttered were when they ordered their meals.
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I've yet to own a smartphone and it is threads like this and commuting on the train that make me happy I don't, despite frequent ridicule.
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massive_field_goal wrote:I've yet to own a smartphone and it is threads like this and commuting on the train that make me happy I don't, despite frequent ridicule.

Good effort. :thumbup:

I would get rid of mine were it not for Whatsapp and Spotify, the rest of the stuff I could do without on a permanent basis. Am not an FB or Twitter user but am quite prolific at checking news and brokerage apps. Moderated my use considerably in the last 3 to 4 years by virtue of owning a kindle, I have two weekly magazine subscriptions on that which keeps the commute (what a quaint concept now) entertaining.

I think the worst thing you see is kids (age 16 and under) utterly glued to their device when out with friends. Anecdotally, groups of girls aged 12-15 seem to be the worst offenders for this. Don't mind the tech but so glad the earliest models didn't appear until I was at university and even then were owned only by the richest clique of students for the first 3 or 4 years. Didn't get my first until 2013 and was already working at that point.
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God yes. Thankfully I came of age during the flip phone era where mobiles were advanced but not too advanced, so they were essentially only good for texting, calling, and not much else. So everything was more or less normal until my first few years of college. But the minute they put out phones that let you browse an internet that actually looked like the internet, it was f**king over.

Whenever I'm in any public place, I just see all the people on their phones and wonder what conversations, friendships, and everything that would flow from basic human interaction has just evaporated into thin air, never to be realized in this day and age, all so people can see what Beyonce had for lunch and look at videos of dogs dressed up like Madonna barking to the tune of Like a Virgin. It's utterly depressing.

But oh yeah, they're so essential, such great tools. I shudder to think back to the ancient, dark time of 2002. How did people survive! Can you believe that back then you and your friends would just have to try and remember who voiced Hank Scorpio in that episode of the Simpsons? The horror!
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massive_field_goal wrote:I've yet to own a smartphone and it is threads like this and commuting on the train that make me happy I don't, despite frequent ridicule.
You are my hero.
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Sandstorm wrote:
Nieghorn wrote:
Something I was surprised by when I last worked in a secondary school... very superficial knowledge / problem solving ability with tech despite being phone addicted and a supposed "digital native with 21st century skills". Not all of them, but a LOT of students couldn't work out how to do certain not-too-difficult things in various apps or install programs following a seemingly logical series of steps like checking the menus and tables of options / reading carefully and following the directions on the screen. :?
That’s not unique to kids today or anyone else. I’ve worked in IT for 20 years and 1/5 of all users can’t install software. They just have a block and quit/squeal for help.
Oh no doubt, but my point is that people assume they're all whizzes with tech and master coders because they grew up with the stuff and spend so much time on them. I've only worked at a few schools, but it seems like the numbers of geeks who can capably do that stuff is about the same as when I was a teen in the 90s. :)

My main issue, though, is how distracting they are. Thankfully, when I was a classroom teacher, not everyone had one. Sometimes I, as the librarian, felt like the bartender teachers would dump their gripes on and the most common was phone addiction/distraction in class. The board had a policy that they were essential learning tools, though, and my board office-based supervisor was a big champion of that policy. But even a poor school like ours had a few computer labs that each hold a whole class, two laptop carts that each had 30 in them, a library with 10 computers and 10 ipads...

I'll bet that if someone crunched the numbers, their phones were mostly used for texting friends and social media, looking at vids/memes, playing games, answering calls from parents in the middle of the day (or in rare cases, phoning parents to complain about something), and then as an education tool.
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I do miss carrying my ghetto blaster on my shoulder.

I dont miss the freakin DJ ruining my mixtape by cutting into the end of the song before it finished on the radio.
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Lemoentjie wrote:They are designed to be addictive, it's not surprising. You can still 'save' yourself with some discipline. It's the full-on zombies you need to worry about.
So who picks up the tab, including socially, or do we throw these zombies on the scrapheap?
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OptimisticJock wrote:
slick wrote:One of the most annoying things is folk calling off at the last minute by text. It used to be you were meeting your mates in the pub at 7 and there were absolutely no call offs after 6.30 as everyone had left the house. Now there are always “sorry lads, not going to make it” plum
Surely they just didn't turn up or would shit out straight away?



Love smart phones. Have so many apps I use for both jobs, cutting down the amount I'd need to carry around. Always have a book to read or TV to watch if I'm away. Can solve arguments in seconds.
As I remember people just turned up, on time. But I may be getting a bit misty eyed
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slick wrote:
OptimisticJock wrote:
slick wrote:One of the most annoying things is folk calling off at the last minute by text. It used to be you were meeting your mates in the pub at 7 and there were absolutely no call offs after 6.30 as everyone had left the house. Now there are always “sorry lads, not going to make it” plum
Surely they just didn't turn up or would shit out straight away?



Love smart phones. Have so many apps I use for both jobs, cutting down the amount I'd need to carry around. Always have a book to read or TV to watch if I'm away. Can solve arguments in seconds.
As I remember people just turned up, on time. But I may be getting a bit misty eyed
Wait wait wait...people...arranged ahead of time to be somewhere???

Sorry, not buying it.
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the curse wrote:I do miss carrying my ghetto blaster on my shoulder.
You don’t listen to music on your phone in public through the loudspeaker so everyone else can hear your shitty taste in music?
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Slick is entirely correct of course. If you arranged to meet somone or visit someone, then you’d be there, barring of course the odd half hour if a train was cancelled or somethign.
Now, not only do phones give flakey types a reason to quit last minute, but people (usually women) will squeeze in about 17 texts along lines of:
Hope the be there by 3!! Xxx
Just turning off A3 ! X
Just in traffic
Just on your road ! Xxx
.....


Worst of all, people can see when a text or WhatsApp or facetime message has been received or read, leading to a whole new board game of passive aggressive communication. My get out clause for everything is ‘sorry, phone was on charge, did you ring the home number ?’
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Nope but I do miss the times before Facebook
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the smartphone has enabled idiocy on an industrial scale.

So many people just treat it as a magic box that tells them everything they need to know.
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ukjim wrote:the smartphone has enabled idiocy on an industrial scale.

So many people just treat it as a magic box that tells them everything they need to know.
Nope, television already beat it.
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Kiwias wrote:My wife and I were out for dinner last night and the couple at the next table spent the entire time on their respective phones -- the only words they uttered were when they ordered their meals.
Quite sad really.
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