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Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:16 pm**

Right:

Firstly, reports of my demise on NPR are seriously misreported.

Secondly:
The Forum here;

Any changes that are made or to be made are nothing really to do the forums here or on F365. It's much more to do with stability of content and CMS on the main pages. Forums make up about 0.5% of the revenue of the group but are a part of the whole site, so we have also to mend them and sort them for the other parts to function too.

22nd May, I told the mods what I thought was happening- that was a migration to a totally new platform, XenForo. At that time, I also contacted Houts and briefed him fully to ensure the users got continuity.

However, due to the sheer brokenness of the DB's and stuff, the XenForo move in one go was nigh on technically impossible and we (me included) have spent 2 months repairing it.

So, PR will get a new DB fix and update in the next 2 weeks as I put in someone's thread y'day. That doesn't say it's going. Far from it. It'll be here. The Security Cert was an unrelated co-incidence.

We will then move again once things have stabilised to the XenForo option. (probably!)

Now, if you want to go to NPR, fine. If you want to stay, fine.

Apols to all that, through sheer time pressures and the fact F365 is 400 times bigger and has taken up my life in sorting it, I forgot to tell you (and also, for this update today, the mods).

If you want to ask questions, I'll try and answer as far as I can.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:21 pm**

PR Apokolypse averted

NPR might be handly when the board crashes, like CP was.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:22 pm**

Shame poor ASMO had to waste so much time and effort on what seems to have been a "prank" by Jake

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:25 pm**

You mentioned that the new site would be rugby only (or maybe sports only - I can't remember). Is that still likely to be the case Jake?

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:33 pm**

Enzedder wrote:You mentioned that the new site would be rugby only (or maybe sports only - I can't remember). Is that still likely to be the case Jake?

Lance:

This is unfortunately how messages become mixed- and if that's my fault I apologise.

Plan Sport have 5 products- the roll out is over each of them IN TURN. So yes, all sports, but 5 seperate fora.

So this will be rugby. However, and this is for avoidance of doubt, my preference is a full migration to XenForo and a new style of forum.

That is still being debated by the team as we have tried the migration once (F365 not here), but not succeeded. Now we've rebuilt the structure, we might succeed.

If you look at this logically, the forum 'concept' is 20 yrs old and this iteration is 9 yrs old. In that time, media consumption habits have changed dramatically.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:43 pm**

EverReady wrote:
HighKingLeinster wrote:Shame poor ASMO had to waste so much time and effort on what seems to have been a "prank" by Jake
I would be FUMMIN

I'm going to keep flitting between the two, a sort of quantum poster if you will.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:47 pm**

Jake, you mentioned though that this bored will in future be moderated by the owners, or outsiders appointed by the owners.

The way I understood it from day 1, was that this forum will still exist, but the owners will take over the running thereof.

In my view, and I think this might have been forgotten by some, is that this change in modding is what will "kill" the forum.

It will still exist, but will not be the same place we all loved. It will become a stale version of itself.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:50 pm**

troglodiet wrote:Jake, you mentioned though that this bored will in future be moderated by the owners, or outsiders appointed by the owners.

The way I understood it from day 1, was that this forum will still exist, but the owners will take over the running thereof.

In my view, and I think this might have been forgotten by some, is that this change in modding is what will "kill" the forum.

It will still exist, but will not be the same place we all loved. It will become a stale version of itself.

Trog;

That is absolutely correct. However, since XenForo not happening yet, that's now on the back burner as of Monday this week- I just hadn't had time to communicate it- in fact I clean forgot due to pressures of other things. This is a moving feast.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:01 pm**

Jake wrote:
troglodiet wrote:Jake, you mentioned though that this bored will in future be moderated by the owners, or outsiders appointed by the owners.

The way I understood it from day 1, was that this forum will still exist, but the owners will take over the running thereof.

In my view, and I think this might have been forgotten by some, is that this change in modding is what will "kill" the forum.

It will still exist, but will not be the same place we all loved. It will become a stale version of itself.
Trog;

That is absolutely correct. However, since XenForo not happening yet, that's now on the back burner as of Monday this week- I just hadn't had time to communicate it- in fact I clean forgot due to pressures of other things. This is a moving feast.

Bollox

You decided to have another "look at me" episode and then shit hit the fan when a viable alternative came along and people started leaving. You then got your ass handed to you by the owners and have now rowed back on the pretence that is was all a big misunderstanding

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:02 pm**

Jake. This is me. The notion of your rooting around, mending tech. is a credible as if you had claimed to have hired OS to oversee as a consultant.

This may still be your fiefdom but no one is buying your building the temple.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:04 pm**

HighKingLeinster wrote:
Jake wrote:
troglodiet wrote:Jake, you mentioned though that this bored will in future be moderated by the owners, or outsiders appointed by the owners.

The way I understood it from day 1, was that this forum will still exist, but the owners will take over the running thereof.

In my view, and I think this might have been forgotten by some, is that this change in modding is what will "kill" the forum.

It will still exist, but will not be the same place we all loved. It will become a stale version of itself.
Trog;

That is absolutely correct. However, since XenForo not happening yet, that's now on the back burner as of Monday this week- I just hadn't had time to communicate it- in fact I clean forgot due to pressures of other things. This is a moving feast.
Bollox

You decided to have another "look at me" episode and then shit hit the fan when a viable alternative came along and people started leaving. You then got your ass handed to you by the owners and have now rowed back on the pretence that is was all a big misunderstanding

Yes, I am sure we're bothered about a forum that generates 4k a year in ad revenue in a business that turns over 12million. Sure you're right.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:06 pm**

EverReady wrote:I want my cut of the 4k

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:09 pm**

Jake explicitly told me on messenger that the bored was being shutdown and that he would do everything he could to help a transition to a new bored not tied to Planet Rugby and was discussing with Houts.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:10 pm**

Jake wrote: Yes, I am sure we're bothered about a forum that generates 4k a year in ad revenue in a business that turns over 12million. Sure you're right.

Turnover for vanity, profit for sanity. How much profit does this schoolboy reporting enterprise make?

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:10 pm**

Whatever has happened, it’s had some effect.

There’s about six people currently viewing this place.

Time to pull the trigger and end it. It’s just sad now.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:11 pm**

henry wrote:Whatever has happened, it’s had some effect.

There’s about six people currently viewing this place.

Time to pull the trigger and end it. It’s just sad now.

THIS

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:14 pm**

I also wish to go down with the ship.

The lifeboats are populated by bellends.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:21 pm**

Sir has volunteered to man the tiller.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:39 pm**

classic PR

So basically we’ll all still be here posting on the same board for the next 50 years

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:43 pm**

Duff Paddy wrote: classic PR

So basically we’ll all still be here posting on the same board for the next 50 years

Why did the four Yorkshiremen sketch just come to mind ?

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:44 pm**

henry wrote:I also wish to go down with the ship.

The lifeboats are populated by bellends.

Why are you still here? You're nearly as tedious as bimbo at this stage.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:44 pm**

Duff Paddy wrote: classic PR

So basically we’ll all still be here posting on the same board for the next 50 years

I genuinely hope to have sorted XenForo before then. With any luck.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:46 pm**

I have obviously missed something because I don't really follow the first post in this thread, is the bored shutting or no?

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:47 pm**

Jake wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote: classic PR

So basically we’ll all still be here posting on the same board for the next 50 years
I genuinely hope to have sorted XenForo before then. With any luck.

I’ve no idea what xenforo is but it sounds shit. It better not have sub forums

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:47 pm**

danthefan wrote:I have obviously missed something because I don't really follow the first post in this thread, is the bored shutting or no?

Apparently not.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:48 pm**

Duff Paddy wrote:
Jake wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote: classic PR

So basically we’ll all still be here posting on the same board for the next 50 years
I genuinely hope to have sorted XenForo before then. With any luck.
I’ve no idea what xenforo is but it sounds shit. It better not have sub forums

Seems to be ten year old software from a quick google.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:04 pm**

Gavin Duffy wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:
Jake wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote: classic PR

So basically we’ll all still be here posting on the same board for the next 50 years
I genuinely hope to have sorted XenForo before then. With any luck.
I’ve no idea what xenforo is but it sounds shit. It better not have sub forums
Seems to be ten year old software from a quick google.

So, in response;

PR is pretty unusual in so far as we get huge desktop traffic but little mobile. People's media consumption has changed due to smartphones.

Xenforo started 10 yrs ago, but 3.0 is cutting edge stuff and allows phone posting easily and much more streaming content stability.

I will reiterate this again- the driver isn't the forums- it's the main sites and if we change those then we may as well change to a more usable forum broswer.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:06 pm**

NPR has much funkier colours. Also I see no bbot infection over there yet.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:20 pm**

Gavin Duffy wrote:
henry wrote:I also wish to go down with the ship.

The lifeboats are populated by bellends.
Why are you still here? You're nearly as tedious as bimbo at this stage.

Hello.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:33 pm**

Duff Paddy wrote: classic PR

So basically we’ll all still be here posting on the same board for the next 50 years

It's not really "classic PR", more "classic Jake".

Generate pointless drama from some rumour he has heard and then slink away.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:42 pm**

henry wrote:
Gavin Duffy wrote:
henry wrote:I also wish to go down with the ship.

The lifeboats are populated by bellends.
Why are you still here? You're nearly as tedious as bimbo at this stage.
Hello.

Hello Welsh bimbo

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:43 pm**

Welsh????

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:44 pm**

HighKingLeinster wrote:Welsh????

Lanky bimbo doesn’t roll off the tongue so well

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:46 pm**

Well, this is a hurtful ending.

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Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:49 pm**

Thanks Jake, now it's clear, there was a coup d'etat intent here and it failed.

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Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:55 pm**

Jeff the Bear wrote:

Look at those tits on the left, mama!

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:56 pm**

Though it is very telling about the type of character they have on NPR. ASMO worked hard on his site yet those on there are willing to jump ship back to PR as soon as they click their fingers...

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