NFL - Washington name change

Anonymous 1 · Post by **Anonymous 1** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:28 am

Over the years Washington have resisted lots of calls to ditch the Redskins tag. It's looking like they might finally buckle under the pressure from sponsors. It's the team I've followed ever since they started showing the NFL in the UK. It's easy not to refer to them as the Redskins in print but it would be good not to see the name everywhere.

Washington Redskins agree review of controversial team name

The Washington Redskins American football team will review its name after demands from major sponsors.

Its headline sponsor, Fedex, joined a fresh wave of calls to scrap a team moniker long-criticised as racist.

The Washington DC-based team has faced years of pressure over a name seen as offensive to Native Americans. The latest calls come amid a fresh focus on racism sparked by worldwide protests.

FedEx made the request at the behest of its own investors.

Dan Snyder, owner of the Washington Redskins, said: "This process allows the team to take into account not only the proud tradition and history of the franchise but also input from our alumni, the organization, sponsors, the National Football League (NFL) and the local community."

At the turn of the millennium, FedEx paid $205m (£165m) for the naming rights to the Redskins' 82,000-seat stadium in Maryland. The deal expires in 2025.

But that is not the delivery giant's only tie to the team. The boss and founder of FedEx, Frederick Smith also owns a minority stake in the Redskins.

The team has been under pressure to change its name for decades.

Dark · Post by **Dark** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:49 am

Surely Washington and Washington DC should change their names as well?

That and they should blow up a bit of Mount Rushmore.

George Washington owned or over saw 317 slaves till his death, where he didn't bother setting them free in his will.

Dark · Post by **Dark** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 4:51 am

They should also probably ban US dollar notes

Anonymous 1 · Post by **Anonymous 1** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:00 am

Dark wrote:Surely Washington and Washington DC should change their names as well?

That and they should blow up a bit of Mount Rushmore.

George Washington owned or over saw 317 slaves till his death, where he didn't bother setting them free in his will.

You should start a campaign if you feel strongly enough

mr bungle · Post by **mr bungle** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:37 am

Anonymous 1 · Post by **Anonymous 1** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 5:43 am

Perhaps a reflection that putting a pejorative name for white people on a t-shirt would have been uncomfortable but totally acceptable for native Americans

mr bungle · Post by **mr bungle** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:06 am

It highlights how unusual the Redskins name is and how is should be gassed.

Anonymous 1 · Post by **Anonymous 1** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:27 am

mr bungle wrote:It highlights how unusual the Redskins name is and how is should be gassed.

The Redskins is the most egregious but not that unusual

mr bungle · Post by **mr bungle** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:33 am

Absolutely.

Bloody Highlanders could even be seen by some as offensive.

Anonymous 1 · Post by **Anonymous 1** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:38 am

mr bungle wrote:Absolutely.

Bloody Highlanders could even be seen by some as offensive.

Easy Tiger

Anonymous 1 · Post by **Anonymous 1** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:40 am

Exeter are another side who refuse to do the right thing

While at West Ham we've been celebrating diversity for decades

mr bungle · Post by **mr bungle** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:47 am

Anonymous. wrote:
mr bungle wrote:Absolutely.

Bloody Highlanders could even be seen by some as offensive.
Easy Tiger

Primo Choice wouldn’t stand for it, you reckon?

Anonymous 1 · Post by **Anonymous 1** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:04 am

mr bungle wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:
mr bungle wrote:Absolutely.

Bloody Highlanders could even be seen by some as offensive.
Easy Tiger
Primo Choice wouldn’t stand for it, you reckon?

Doubt there are any highlanders objecting but times and attitudes change. I remember when i first went to New Zealand i'd never heard anyone use the words primo or choice in the way kiwis used them and did so quite often. Last time I went I never heard anyone use them at all.

Big Nipper · Post by **Big Nipper** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:07 am

Dark wrote:Surely Washington and Washington DC should change their names as well?

That and they should blow up a bit of Mount Rushmore.

George Washington owned or over saw 317 slaves till his death, where he didn't bother setting them free in his will.

Typical Jordan Peterson Soy Boy

Bayern · Post by **Bayern** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:22 am

Anonymous. wrote:
mr bungle wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:
mr bungle wrote:Absolutely.

Bloody Highlanders could even be seen by some as offensive.
Easy Tiger
Primo Choice wouldn’t stand for it, you reckon?
Doubt there are any highlanders objecting but times and attitudes change. I remember when i first went to New Zealand i'd never heard anyone use the words primo or choice in the way kiwis used them and did so quite often. Last time I went I never heard anyone use them at all.

A progressive lot the Kiwi's Anon, they have graduated to "awesome". So 80's California, awesome man...

mr bungle · Post by **mr bungle** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:35 am

Bayern wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:
mr bungle wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:
mr bungle wrote:Absolutely.

Bloody Highlanders could even be seen by some as offensive.
Easy Tiger
Primo Choice wouldn’t stand for it, you reckon?
Doubt there are any highlanders objecting but times and attitudes change. I remember when i first went to New Zealand i'd never heard anyone use the words primo or choice in the way kiwis used them and did so quite often. Last time I went I never heard anyone use them at all.
A progressive lot the Kiwi's Anon, they have graduated to "awesome". So 80's California, awesome man...

Yes, awesome and the godforsaken chur. The Aussies on the other hand are all about 100%, 100%, 100%.

Pat the Ex Mat · Post by **Pat the Ex Mat** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:41 am

mr bungle wrote:The Aussies on the other hand are all about 100%, 100%, 100%.

Deadset

Bayern · Post by **Bayern** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:46 am

@ mr bungle
Yeah chur is another, I've noticed on my hometown f/b group sites (Sth Waikato) which I visit regularly whanau is the flavour of the day. I'm not suggesting any of it is good or bad btw, just an observation.

mr bungle · Post by **mr bungle** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:50 am

Pat the Ex Mat wrote:
mr bungle wrote:The Aussies on the other hand are all about 100%, 100%, 100%.
Deadset

True blue is old hat.

puku · Post by **puku** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:20 pm

The Washington organization couldn't give a flying fück previously. It was their heritage, and their name and icon was a badge of honor you see.

Fast forward to today and as soon as sponsors make noises Washington bends over. Shameful really that it took money for them to consider what is ethically right.

CrazyIslander · Post by **CrazyIslander** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:38 pm

I'd call them the Washington Indigenous Folks of All Genders.

Anonymous 1 · Post by **Anonymous 1** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:07 pm

puku wrote:The Washington organization couldn't give a flying fück previously. It was their heritage, and their name and icon was a badge of honor you see.

Fast forward to today and as soon as sponsors make noises Washington bends over. Shameful really that it took money for them to consider what is ethically right.

TBF no one thinks they give a shit. It's only a few years ago the owner said he would NEVER (he used capitals) change the name.

Exeter is even more pathetic. They've only had the Chief identity since the 90's and they have spent at least the last 10 years refusing to change it.

Brumby_in_Vic · Post by **Brumby_in_Vic** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:02 pm

Hopefully the Redskins tell the leftards who are trying change history to get farked.

Ali's Choice · Post by **Ali's Choice** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:03 pm

Brumby_in_Vic wrote:Hopefully the Redskins tell the leftards who are trying change history to get farked.

It's their wealthy corporate sponsors who are forcing the change, dickhead.

Brumby_in_Vic · Post by **Brumby_in_Vic** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:13 pm

They chose to sponsor the Washington Redskins you farkwit. This changing of team history by outsiders has been attempted in English and Welsh Football. Hull City and Cardiff City two recent examples. It did not go down well with supporters.

Ali's Choice · Post by **Ali's Choice** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:15 pm

Brumby_in_Vic wrote:They chose to sponsor the Washington Redskins you farkwit. This changing of team history by outsiders has been attempted in English and Welsh Football. Hull City and Cardiff City two recent examples. It did not go down well with supporters.

So just to be clear, you're saying that Washington's proposed name change has nothing to do with pressure from corporate sponsors?

Anonymous 1 · Post by **Anonymous 1** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:23 pm

Brumby_in_Vic wrote:Hopefully the Redskins tell the leftards who are trying change history to get farked.

CrazyIslander · Post by **CrazyIslander** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:23 pm

Brumby_in_Vic wrote:They chose to sponsor the Washington Redskins you farkwit. This changing of team history by outsiders has been attempted in English and Welsh Football. Hull City and Cardiff City two recent examples. It did not go down well with supporters.

Why don't the Redskins just say no to the sponsors?

MungoMan · Post by **MungoMan** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:28 pm

CrazyIslander wrote:I'd call them the Washington Indigenous Folks of All Genders.

You'd need to be a fat fúck to wear a supporters shirt with that mouthful emblazoned in it.

Brumby_in_Vic · Post by **Brumby_in_Vic** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:34 pm

Ali's Choice wrote:
Brumby_in_Vic wrote:They chose to sponsor the Washington Redskins you farkwit. This changing of team history by outsiders has been attempted in English and Welsh Football. Hull City and Cardiff City two recent examples. It did not go down well with supporters.
So just to be clear, you're saying that Washington's proposed name change has nothing to do with pressure from corporate sponsors?

People including activists (which sponsors have sadly become) have been trying to change their name for over twenty years. The team administration have been smart enough to say no.

Brumby_in_Vic · Post by **Brumby_in_Vic** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:37 pm

CrazyIslander wrote:
Brumby_in_Vic wrote:They chose to sponsor the Washington Redskins you farkwit. This changing of team history by outsiders has been attempted in English and Welsh Football. Hull City and Cardiff City two recent examples. It did not go down well with supporters.
Why don't the Redskins just say no to the sponsors?

They have for a long time.

I am surprised the woke company Gillette as the stadium naming rights sponsor haven’t told the New England Patriots to change their name as it is offensive to people who aren’t patriots.

Pat the Ex Mat · Post by **Pat the Ex Mat** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:39 pm

Exeter should tap into the local Dumnonii heritage

Anonymous 1 · Post by **Anonymous 1** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:42 pm

Brumby_in_Vic wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:
Brumby_in_Vic wrote:They chose to sponsor the Washington Redskins you farkwit. This changing of team history by outsiders has been attempted in English and Welsh Football. Hull City and Cardiff City two recent examples. It did not go down well with supporters.
So just to be clear, you're saying that Washington's proposed name change has nothing to do with pressure from corporate sponsors?
People including activists (which sponsors have sadly become) have been trying to change their name for over twenty years. The team administration have been smart enough to say no.

And if the owner wants to tell the sponsors to take their sponsorship millions and shove it up their arse he is well within his rights to so so.

Brumby_in_Vic · Post by **Brumby_in_Vic** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:49 pm

Pat the Ex Mat wrote:Exeter should tap into the local Dumnonii heritage

They should stick to being called Exeter. The English Rugby clubs should never have gone down that route. Sale Sharks

Bristol Bears

I can remember Bristol tarting themselves for a sponsor. Bristol Shoguns

At least the not nots, Bath and Gloucester have stuck with their club names.

CrazyIslander · Post by **CrazyIslander** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:50 pm

Basically the sponsors think the Redskins is a shit team to be associated with. They're hoping the owner says no so they can severe ties.

Brumby_in_Vic · Post by **Brumby_in_Vic** » Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:54 pm

MungoMan wrote:
CrazyIslander wrote:I'd call them the Washington Indigenous Folks of All Genders.
You'd need to be a fat fúck to wear a supporters shirt with that mouthful emblazoned in it.

No shortage of them in the US.

UncleFB · Post by **UncleFB** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:17 am

Brumby_in_Vic wrote:Hopefully the Redskins tell the leftards who are trying change history to get farked.

You're going full loon across a number of threads today.

US sports teams change names and cities all the time - you must really melt down when a whole team up and moves to another city.

Ali's Choice · Post by **Ali's Choice** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:19 am

UncleFB wrote:
Brumby_in_Vic wrote:Hopefully the Redskins tell the leftards who are trying change history to get farked.
You're going full loon across a number of threads today.

Yup, I'm guessing that BiV is on the sauce tonight. He's attacking everyone and everything.

merry! · Post by **merry!** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:53 am

washington lizard people seems to be catching on.

CrazyIslander · Post by **CrazyIslander** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:58 am

merry! wrote:washington lizard people seems to be catching on.

Disrespectful to the royal family.