Crusaders vs Blues: MATCH THREAD; Sat 11th July

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Beauden really is losing his glow with each passing game at the Blues must be the gloomier Auckland weather
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What a f**king try that was.
Great timing
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26-15 Sadists
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Blocked down conversion was a game changer.
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Good guys leading 26 - 15 with two mins to go
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Kiwias wrote:Good guys leading 26 - 15 with two mins to go
What a glorious day it was. Bad luck all of auckland
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Crusaders on a 35-game winning streak at home

EDIT: now 36 games
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Difference in the game has been Mounga able to create something in the face of a brilliant and brutal Blues defense. Whereas the Blues haven't been able to do similar in the face of a efficient Crusaders defense which is a sad reflection on Barrett.
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Toss a coin for MOTM among Taylor, Bridge, RMo
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Crusaders class as usual, was nice to see them a bit whingey and grubby for 60 minutes though.
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tubbyj wrote:Difference in the game has been Mounga able to create something in the face of a brilliant and brutal Blues defense. Whereas the Blues haven't been able to do similar in the face of a efficient Crusaders defense which is a sad reflection on Barrett.
The Blues defense was awesome for long stretches
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Kiwias wrote:Toss a coin for MOTM among Taylor, Bridge, RMo
Richie for me. Amazing from the best 10 in NZ
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Not that good, TJ.

Well done Saders. Battled away to a win, though very fortunate for the end margin.
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BlueThunder wrote:Crusaders class as usual, was nice to see them a bit whingey and grubby for 60 minutes though.
Credit to the Blues for the pressure they exerted.
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Can someone clear this up for me. Can you now drop goal or cheeky chip and chase off a knock on advantage and then go back for it? How long has this been the case? It’s bullshit.
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100 more posts on the NotPR game thread, getting close to double PR. Only mention as I must say I’m surprised with the difference in traffic. I’m sure someone will do a character count that shows the difference to be marginal.
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tubbyj wrote:Difference in the game has been Mounga able to create something in the face of a brilliant and brutal Blues defense. Whereas the Blues haven't been able to do similar in the face of a efficient Crusaders defense which is a sad reflection on Barrett.
BB was playing 15 for most of the game. This is an odd take.
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JPNZ wrote:
Kiwias wrote:Toss a coin for MOTM among Taylor, Bridge, RMo
Richie for me. Amazing from the best 10 in NZ
I’d go for Mo’unga as well. It’s really pleasing to see him keep stepping up in the big games - and that was a really tough one. The way he can play flat to the line is impressive.
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That was quality code, Crusaders ability to play for 80 minutes the difference..
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mr bungle wrote:100 more posts on the NotPR game thread, getting close to double PR. Only mention as I must say I’m surprised with the difference in traffic. I’m sure someone will do a character count that shows the difference to be marginal.
Time to jump on over
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Wilderbeast wrote:Can someone clear this up for me. Can you now drop goal or cheeky chip and chase off a knock on advantage and then go back for it? How long has this been the case? It’s bullshit.
As far as I recall, as long as your side has advantage you can do whatever the heck you want unless ref calls advantage over. Typically advantage doesnt last as long for knock ons compared to penalty advantage
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The joy and personal pride this game fills me with is uncountable. Love my team
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mr bungle wrote:100 more posts on the NotPR game thread, getting close to double PR. Only mention as I must say I’m surprised with the difference in traffic. I’m sure someone will do a character count that shows the difference to be marginal.
It’s not the count of characters that matters, it’s the characters making them.*

*I have no idea who was posting over there.
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Very happy with the win. Great effort by the Blues but the Crusaders get the result. Really gritty defense from both teams. Mo'unga was the difference IMO, his moments of class were telling. Otere Black played well too, but there is a big gulf in class between him and RM.
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JB1981 wrote:
JPNZ wrote:
Kiwias wrote:Toss a coin for MOTM among Taylor, Bridge, RMo
Richie for me. Amazing from the best 10 in NZ
I’d go for Mo’unga as well. It’s really pleasing to see him keep stepping up in the big games - and that was a really tough one. The way he can play flat to the line is impressive.
No argument with RMo
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trapper wrote:That was quality code, Crusaders ability to play for 80 minutes the difference..
The same as last week. It’s the mark of the team though when you can make that a habit.
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mr bungle wrote:100 more posts on the NotPR game thread, getting close to double PR. Only mention as I must say I’m surprised with the difference in traffic. I’m sure someone will do a character count that shows the difference to be marginal.
I'd argue that most established posters are posting, or at least lurking, on both forums. I have posted on both match threads and I'll probably continue to do so. NPR is without a doubt a prettier, sexier forum whereas this forum has more history.
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Kiwias wrote:Crusaders on a 35-game winning streak at home

EDIT: now 36 games
Woot!

Thanks for all the updates guys.
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RMo bought it back in a big way and could rightly claim motm. It’s quite impressive considering he was quite iffy in the first half.
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Noob wrote:
Wilderbeast wrote:Can someone clear this up for me. Can you now drop goal or cheeky chip and chase off a knock on advantage and then go back for it? How long has this been the case? It’s bullshit.
As far as I recall, as long as your side has advantage you can do whatever the heck you want unless ref calls advantage over. Typically advantage doesnt last as long for knock ons compared to penalty advantage
This isn’t how I recall it. I’m sure I remember refs calling advantage over once a team opts to kick. McAlister doing a droppy in the France quarter in 2007 always comes to mind.
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Exciting game to watch as a neutral. Crusaders well done fully deserved win.

Blues defence cracked under the pressure, they really don't know how to chase a lead, they look very robotic systematically under pressure.
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Razor making a good point about Mitchell Drummond there. He has really impressed this season coming off the bench. Is this a specialist role that should see him move ahead of others for the All Blacks who are maybe better starting 9s but not so good making an impact coming on with 20 left.
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I'll post some more in-depth reflections tomorrow, but fresh from viewing it's hard not to be excited about both these coaches. Both Robertson and Macdonald look like special talents, and I hope they don't follow the path of 95% of our elite coaches who spend their best years coaching offshore. We need to remember that Leon Macdonald was part of Scott Robertson's All Black coaching team when he applied for the job last November. Have the NZR stuffed up badly.

The Blues are the real deal this year. Their defense was first class, as good as any I've seen this year. The Crusaders are one of the most lethal teams in world rugby right now, and they were made to look pedestrian at times in attack.

George Bridge will have silenced many of his critics with that performance. All week people were trolling him, and demanding for Jordan to retain his place in the starting team. Bridge was great, he caught a number of contested box kicks, saved a try with his tackle of Mark Telea and his try assist for Drummond was just class.

As has long been the case, the Crusaders bench 9 made a huge impact. Mitch Drummond was awesome. He didn't just score a try, his decision making was first class and he was very accurate at the breakdown when the Crusaders were lifting the tempo in the final quarter of the match.

Interesting to hear people's thought on the contest at centre between Ennor and Ioane? Reiko scored a great try but Ennor did some key things as well, his charge down was crucial and then a late touch finding kick was high quality.
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Leon makes a great JAFA, always liked him.
Sotutu and Telea are so good. Telea is too dependable for a Blues player.
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Wilderbeast wrote:RMo bought it back in a big way and could rightly claim motm. It’s quite impressive considering he was quite iffy in the first half.
Agree with that. That was a game of inches and many times in the first half with some of his stupid kicking of what the f... was that Ritchie. Where as with Codie Taylor it was jeez bro are you the everyready constant leading everywhere machine or what.
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Ali's Choice wrote:I'll post some more in-depth reflections tomorrow, but fresh from viewing it's hard not to be excited about both these coaches. Both Robertson and Macdonald look like special talents, and I hope they don't follow the path of 95% of our elite coaches who spend their best years coaching offshore. We need to remember that Leon Macdonald was part of Scott Robertson's All Black coaching team when he applied for the job last November. Have the NZR stuffed up badly.

The Blues are the real deal this year. Their defense was first class, as good as any I've seen this year. The Crusaders are one of the most lethal teams in world rugby right now, and they were made to look pedestrian at times in attack.

George Bridge will have silenced many of his critics with that performance. All week people were trolling him, and demanding for Jordan to retain his place in the starting team. Bridge was great, he caught a number of contested box kicks, saved a try with his tackle of Mark Telea and his try assist for Drummond was just class.

As has long been the case, the Crusaders bench 9 made a huge impact. Mitch Drummond was awesome. He didn't just score a try, his decision making was first class and he was very accurate at the breakdown when the Crusaders were lifting the tempo in the final quarter of the match.

Interesting to hear people's thought on the contest at centre between Ennor and Ioane? Reiko scored a great try but Ennor did some key things as well, his charge down was crucial and then a late touch finding kick was high quality.
I think you as with most of us are guilty at times at being mesmerized by the ball in hand player. Case in point is the big ball runners of the Blues loosies. Jeez they were magnificent while fresh in the first 20 but jeez where were they in the next 60 when the game was being decided. Look at the lead up to the Jordan try. Who were the dominant players hammering at the Blues line...hint they has Saders starting and bench players loose forward numbers. The Blues loosies were where in the 2nd half? I think for the whole half I seen Sotutu get a mention for a line out gone wrong landing in his hands.
The same for Ennor. Running from depth for easy yardage like a one dimensional Laumape is pittance compared to the overall skills of a charge down or bit spot tackle in an arm wrestle. Having said that it was a very strong game from Reiko as a power runner.
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Being way too harsh on the blues there. They didn’t have as much ball toward the end did they? Hard for ball runners to make statements without the ball.
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Codie Taylor was good around the field no doubt but the Crusaders lineout is misfiring too much this season and while that is not all on the hooker he can not be excused either. As a leader in the side he needs to get on top of that shit and demand more of others if they are the ones making mistakes.

I like Ennor but he hasn't excelled at centre this season as some were hoping, IMO Goodhue has had to carry him. While the charge down was a factor in the change in momentum it wasn't any thing to do with him showing he is coming to grips with the demands of the 13 jersey at this level and I would take Ioane (who i have been happily surprised with at 13) all day long ahead of him.
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Roadman wrote:
Wilderbeast wrote:RMo bought it back in a big way and could rightly claim motm. It’s quite impressive considering he was quite iffy in the first half.
Agree with that. That was a game of inches and many times in the first half with some of his stupid kicking of what the f... was that Ritchie. Where as with Codie Taylor it was jeez bro are you the everyready constant leading everywhere machine or what.

Taylor was awesome, easily MOTM for me
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Crusaders found only one weakness in the Blues game,
Taking the high ball.
Bridge especially exploited that ruthlessly.
For 60 minutes of the game they couldn't find any other way to make the gain line.

After an average first half, Mo'unga was irrepressible in the second. Two moments of absolute class.

Blues must be wondering what they have to do to beat the Crusaders. Beat them at the gain line, beat them in thffe lineout, shaded them at scrum time. Their brutal defense forced the Crusaders into mistakes, but still lost by more than 1 score.

FWIW, now think Tuipolotu and Barrett are the two best locks, Whitelock is good but nowhere near the player he was 4 years ago.
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