Australia eager to harvest Hong Kong's human capital

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massive_field_goal wrote:there is absolutely no valid humanitarium basis for this - zero. otherwise you would have to say that all Chinese citizens are eligible.

selling visas and citizenship to the highest bidders is an insult to the cultural identity of a country. but no surprise for australia.
90% of our migrant intake have been skilled/wealthy migrants for decades. We don't make them bid for the vias, per se. But they have to meet certain criteria (ie. be rich, have skills, qualifications etc).
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massive_field_goal wrote:there is absolutely no valid humanitarium basis for this - zero. otherwise you would have to say that all Chinese citizens are eligible.

selling visas and citizenship to the highest bidders is an insult to the cultural identity of a country. but no surprise for australia.
Is that supposed to be a cutting riposte?

Yeah nah try harder.

O hang on, you’re already a tryhard.

Also, sort out your spellchecker, FFS. Is ‘humanitarium’ akin to herbarium, aquarium, terrarium etc?
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Ali's Choice wrote:We offered similar safe-haven for white South Africans in the early 1990's, liberating them from the terrors of a tolerant and apartheid-free society.
:roll: :roll:
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Pat the Ex Mat wrote:
Ellafan wrote:
Pat the Ex Mat wrote:
Ellafan wrote: Which ones are queue jumping though? - the ones who make an application through proper channels whilst domiciled in their home state, and get a visa before traveling here, or the ones who decided to try to illegally enter without a visa?
Refugees don't need a visa to claim asylum....
So, do you say that by paying a people smuggler to bring them here on a boat, and claim asylum, they are entitled to advance their visa application up the queue in front of other applicants?

There are some people in a refugee camp adjacent to the Sudan who might disagree.
Where did I say that exactly?
You didn't, but that would be the effect. You shouldn't get preferred processing over the refugee in the camp in Ethiopia just because you had the $US to pay someone to ship you to Christmas Island. Nor, over an applicant from Hong Kong advancing their application through the correct channels.
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Lemoentjie wrote:
Ali's Choice wrote:We offered similar safe-haven for white South Africans in the early 1990's, liberating them from the terrors of a tolerant and apartheid-free society.
:roll: :roll:
It's a wonder he didn't drop the "Capetown" photo in there.
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MungoMan wrote:
massive_field_goal wrote:there is absolutely no valid humanitarium basis for this - zero. otherwise you would have to say that all Chinese citizens are eligible.

selling visas and citizenship to the highest bidders is an insult to the cultural identity of a country. but no surprise for australia.
Is that supposed to be a cutting riposte?

Yeah nah try harder.

O hang on, you’re already a tryhard.

Also, sort out your spellchecker, FFS. Is ‘humanitarium’ akin to herbarium, aquarium, terrarium etc?
sorry about typo.

and why am I a "tryhard" for saying what I did?
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I truly hope none of the dumb fxcks on this thread will ever have to face the undignified situation of being a refugee. Based on the crap some of you have uttered in this thread you don’t deserve to enjoy the privileges you’re born with.

Over and out.
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These subjects are the property of her Majesty. She should do the quotas imo.
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vitoplaysrugby wrote:I truly hope none of the dumb fxcks on this thread will ever have to face the undignified situation of being a refugee. Based on the crap some of you have uttered in this thread you don’t deserve to enjoy the privileges you’re born with.

Over and out.
while I understand the plight of the Honk Kong folk and their situation, declaring them refugees is a bit of a stretch, and an insult to refugees in much more dire situations. I wonder what the latter must think of this plan.
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At least with South Africans you get the odd Marnus Labuschagne, Irene van Dyck, Clyde Rathbone or David Pocock.
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massive_field_goal wrote:
vitoplaysrugby wrote:I truly hope none of the dumb fxcks on this thread will ever have to face the undignified situation of being a refugee. Based on the crap some of you have uttered in this thread you don’t deserve to enjoy the privileges you’re born with.

Over and out.
while I understand the plight of the Honk Kong folk and their situation, declaring them refugees is a bit of a stretch, and an insult to refugees in much more dire situations. I wonder what the latter must think of this plan.
Exactly.

Some of the more right-wing members forget that Refugees have a right to apply for Asylum from ANY point, not just their original country.

Keeping Refugees in camps for 7+ years is just ridiculous
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I'm sure that Australia is not alone. I was living in HK during the handover and then Canada was the prefferred destination to anyone leaving.
The very rich had already made their own arrangements for themselves and their money secreted in London and and into accounts around the world, and I have little doubt the current ones have done the same .
I dont doubt who ever gets the bulk will enjoy a net benefit of having them in their country
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Pat the Ex Mat wrote:
massive_field_goal wrote:
vitoplaysrugby wrote:I truly hope none of the dumb fxcks on this thread will ever have to face the undignified situation of being a refugee. Based on the crap some of you have uttered in this thread you don’t deserve to enjoy the privileges you’re born with.

Over and out.
while I understand the plight of the Honk Kong folk and their situation, declaring them refugees is a bit of a stretch, and an insult to refugees in much more dire situations. I wonder what the latter must think of this plan.
Exactly.

Some of the more right-wing members forget that Refugees have a right to apply for Asylum from ANY point, not just their original country.

Keeping Refugees in camps for 7+ years is just ridiculous
Yeah, so based on todays press conference, its quite clear they are not being treated as refugees.

They are simply making it more attractive for students and highly skilled people to come here. :thumbup:
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Sensible Stephen wrote:
Pat the Ex Mat wrote:
massive_field_goal wrote:
vitoplaysrugby wrote:I truly hope none of the dumb fxcks on this thread will ever have to face the undignified situation of being a refugee. Based on the crap some of you have uttered in this thread you don’t deserve to enjoy the privileges you’re born with.

Over and out.
while I understand the plight of the Honk Kong folk and their situation, declaring them refugees is a bit of a stretch, and an insult to refugees in much more dire situations. I wonder what the latter must think of this plan.
Exactly.

Some of the more right-wing members forget that Refugees have a right to apply for Asylum from ANY point, not just their original country.

Keeping Refugees in camps for 7+ years is just ridiculous
Yeah, so based on todays press conference, its quite clear they are not being treated as refugees.

They are simply making it more attractive for students and highly skilled people to come here. :thumbup:

Good to hear they have changed the message.
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Pat the Ex Mat wrote:
Sensible Stephen wrote:
Pat the Ex Mat wrote:
massive_field_goal wrote: while I understand the plight of the Honk Kong folk and their situation, declaring them refugees is a bit of a stretch, and an insult to refugees in much more dire situations. I wonder what the latter must think of this plan.
Exactly.

Some of the more right-wing members forget that Refugees have a right to apply for Asylum from ANY point, not just their original country.

Keeping Refugees in camps for 7+ years is just ridiculous
Yeah, so based on todays press conference, its quite clear they are not being treated as refugees.

They are simply making it more attractive for students and highly skilled people to come here. :thumbup:
Good to hear they have changed the message.
It is becoming increasingly clear that there is an auction on progress with the items for auction being HK's wealthier and/or better educated residents. A few countries have submitted preliminary bids and I anticipate there being more.

All that is lacking is an auctioneer.
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I would welcome them to the UK if they can pick fruit or work in Hotels.
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Pat the Ex Mat wrote:
massive_field_goal wrote:
vitoplaysrugby wrote:I truly hope none of the dumb fxcks on this thread will ever have to face the undignified situation of being a refugee. Based on the crap some of you have uttered in this thread you don’t deserve to enjoy the privileges you’re born with.

Over and out.
while I understand the plight of the Honk Kong folk and their situation, declaring them refugees is a bit of a stretch, and an insult to refugees in much more dire situations. I wonder what the latter must think of this plan.
Exactly.

Some of the more right-wing members forget that Refugees have a right to apply for Asylum from ANY point, not just their original country.

Keeping Refugees in camps for 7+ years is just ridiculous
Just because they pay big money to get on a boat and illegally enter Australia, then make their application AT THAT POINTdoesn't mean they should have their application advanced up the queue in front of people who have had respect for the laws of this country, and UN procedures, and applied through the proper channels. AIMHO.

Are you advocating that they should?
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massive_field_goal wrote:there is absolutely no valid humanitarium basis for this - zero. otherwise you would have to say that all Chinese citizens are eligible.

selling visas and citizenship to the highest bidders is an insult to the cultural identity of a country. but no surprise for australia.
I smell your jalopy
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