Melbourne. About to be fvcked again. Fvck you Ozzie Open!

[grievous]

Its now multiple households isnt it? And potentially hundreds of exposures.
The way NZ dealt with an outbreak like this was a short, sharp lockdown to make sure that no further exposures happened.
This isnt a little outbreak, its not one or two people. Its 17 at last count. And SA is open with no masks.
A week now might save 3 months later.

Hmm, On Monday after 3 days of the outbreak and the outbreak getting beyond what everything I have read says the contact tracing can typically cope with. Ill stand by my position there. Hardly knee jerk, the contact tracing had gone for 3 days and was shown to be a very large outbreak.

What? 22, maybe 27, cases in the population of Adelaide? It's a statistical irrelevance.

I'm guessing you neither own a business in, nor earn a living in, the hospitality sector. People are losing their life's work in small businesses, their jobs, homes and dreams due to the economic disaster knee jerk shutdowns have caused in this country.

Have some empathy for chissakes, and stop the panic talk.

What's your take on hydroxychloroquine?

[mabunch78]

Latest SA COVID news conference:

The extreme lock down that we entered this week was imposed on the basis of what has now been determined a lie from a contact of the Parafield cluster that led authorities to believe they were dealing with an uber-infectious strain of COVID. Now the truth is known about this person's actual movements, activities and contacts, authorities now regard the cluster as 'normal' so our current level of restrictions is set to be relaxed almost immediately.

The Premier identified this person as male and working at the Stamford Hotel in the news conference. I'd say they should lay low for a veeerrrry long time....obviously they'll have to come out for perpetual Job Seeker meetings once they've finished serving their time in the clink....would be better off moving interstate, possibly emigrating.....

[mabunch78]

Bumping as you obviously think I'm f#cking with you....I'm not!

[Sensible Stephen]

Yeah, so we didn't need to go into lockdown. Only went in as they thought someone caught it collecting a pizza.

Dude is a total muppet.

But glad our contract tracing works, and lockdown was only triggered because of BS.

[mabunch78]

Got to say both this and the MEL 2nd wave incident have revealed a structural shortcoming too. The services and security roles around these quarantine hotels are risky and extremely important. Pay those in these roles at a rate that matches their importance and you'll only get the best and most professional doing jobs that won't need to be supplemented on the gig economy circuit. So actually my finger is pointing ultimately at the culture of outsourcing for the best value/cheapest service provider - the prevalent economic and political paradigm that has been badly shown up by various incidents throughout this pandemic. PPE procurement anyone?

[Pat the Ex Mat]

It also highlights the gig-economy for what it is, a side-hustle, not a replacement for full-time work.

[mabunch78]

It also highlights the gig-economy for what it is, a side-hustle, not a replacement for full-time work.

[Ellafan]

They need to fix this:

SA Police will launch an investigation into the lie by a Woodville pizza bar worker that sparked SA's lockdown, which will now lift at midnight on Saturday. There are three new cases today, all in quarantine.
...
However, the man will escape penalty because there is no available penalty for lying to contact tracers.

The above is a reference to criminal penalty, so that does not exclude other legal action, but query he has assets sufficient to make it worthwhile.

[Slim 293]

The thread title needs a-changin’, because Covid in Melbourne is goooooooooooooooooooone...

[Clogs]

The hard work and sacrifices that millions of Victorians have made has finally paid off. We are technically covid free. We have eliminated the virus. But we must still wear our masks. Even though we are Covid free.

[Sensible Stephen]

The hard work and sacrifices that millions of Victorians have made has finally paid off. We are technically covid free. We have eliminated the virus. But we must still wear our masks. Even though we are Covid free.

We don't have to wear masks in virus riddled Adelaide.

[Jeff the Bear]

Genuine question, but is Melbourne any good to visit (post Covid)? The missus has a friend living there who can put us up, and we're thinking it will be the first place we ravel once everyone has been dosed up with a cure.

Is there enough to do for an entire week...two weeks?

[Clogs]

The hard work and sacrifices that millions of Victorians have made has finally paid off. We are technically covid free. We have eliminated the virus. But we must still wear our masks. Even though we are Covid free.

We don't have to wear masks in virus riddled Adelaide.

In fairness you are all a lot better looking than we are...

[Clogs]

Genuine question, but is Melbourne any good to visit (post Covid)? The missus has a friend living there who can put us up, and we're thinking it will be the first place we ravel once everyone has been dosed up with a cure.

Is there enough to do for an entire week...two weeks?

There is a fair bit to do. A week would do it. A few days shopping, dining etc and a few days down the great ocean road or wilsons prom. Then spend the other week travelling up the coast via Sydney to visit the reef.

Fvck Adelaide. Don't go there. Disease ridden hell hole.

[Sensible Stephen]

Genuine question, but is Melbourne any good to visit (post Covid)? The missus has a friend living there who can put us up, and we're thinking it will be the first place we ravel once everyone has been dosed up with a cure.

Is there enough to do for an entire week...two weeks?

There is a fair bit to do. A week would do it. A few days shopping, dining etc and a few days down the great ocean road or wilsons prom. Then spend the other week travelling up the coast via Sydney to visit the reef.

Fvck Adelaide. Don't go there. Disease ridden hell hole.

We may be a hell hole, and disease ridden, and have dead bodies in our rivers, but we have the wine.

[Kiwias]

The thread title needs a-changin’, because Covid in Melbourne is goooooooooooooooooooone...

[Anonymous 1]

The thread title needs a-changin’, because Covid in Melbourne is goooooooooooooooooooone...

You know it hasn't

[UncleFB]

Genuine question, but is Melbourne any good to visit (post Covid)? The missus has a friend living there who can put us up, and we're thinking it will be the first place we ravel once everyone has been dosed up with a cure.

Is there enough to do for an entire week...two weeks?

Don’t listen to Clogs, I’m now convinced he’s never set foot in Melbourne.

You can definitely spend a week to two there (amd there’s the surrounds too).

[Zakar]

Genuine question, but is Melbourne any good to visit (post Covid)? The missus has a friend living there who can put us up, and we're thinking it will be the first place we ravel once everyone has been dosed up with a cure.

Is there enough to do for an entire week...two weeks?

Its good for a visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.

[Ogre]

Genuine question, but is Melbourne any good to visit (post Covid)? The missus has a friend living there who can put us up, and we're thinking it will be the first place we ravel once everyone has been dosed up with a cure.

Is there enough to do for an entire week...two weeks?

Its good for a visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.

Fvck Off We're Full

[Zakar]

Genuine question, but is Melbourne any good to visit (post Covid)? The missus has a friend living there who can put us up, and we're thinking it will be the first place we ravel once everyone has been dosed up with a cure.

Is there enough to do for an entire week...two weeks?

Its good for a visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.

Fvck Off We're Full

Full of plum.

[Working Class Rugger]

Genuine question, but is Melbourne any good to visit (post Covid)? The missus has a friend living there who can put us up, and we're thinking it will be the first place we ravel once everyone has been dosed up with a cure.

Is there enough to do for an entire week...two weeks?

Its good for a visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.

Fvck Off We're Full

Full of plum.

Can confirm.

[Clogs]

Genuine question, but is Melbourne any good to visit (post Covid)? The missus has a friend living there who can put us up, and we're thinking it will be the first place we ravel once everyone has been dosed up with a cure.

Is there enough to do for an entire week...two weeks?

There is a fair bit to do. A week would do it. A few days shopping, dining etc and a few days down the great ocean road or wilsons prom. Then spend the other week travelling up the coast via Sydney to visit the reef.

Fvck Adelaide. Don't go there. Disease ridden hell hole.

We may be a hell hole, and disease ridden, and have dead bodies in our rivers, but we have the wine.

So like Werribee, but with wine?

[BlackMac]

Genuine question, but is Melbourne any good to visit (post Covid)? The missus has a friend living there who can put us up, and we're thinking it will be the first place we ravel once everyone has been dosed up with a cure.

Is there enough to do for an entire week...two weeks?

Yes and yes.

[Ellafan]

Genuine question, but is Melbourne any good to visit (post Covid)? The missus has a friend living there who can put us up, and we're thinking it will be the first place we ravel once everyone has been dosed up with a cure.

Is there enough to do for an entire week...two weeks?

Yes and yes.

Being a foreigner like BlackMac, I agree. You can spend a week eating out at good non-overpriced places in Chapel St and wandering here and there to the galleries/sites etc, and still need another week or more to range out a bit.

[Slim 293]

Melbourne tourist destinations to avoid...

- Chapel Street (the Windsor end isn't as bad)
- Italian food along the Carlton end of Lygon Street
- Those al fresco dining cafes on Degraves St

[Ogre]

Genuine question, but is Melbourne any good to visit (post Covid)? The missus has a friend living there who can put us up, and we're thinking it will be the first place we ravel once everyone has been dosed up with a cure.

Is there enough to do for an entire week...two weeks?

There is a fair bit to do. A week would do it. A few days shopping, dining etc and a few days down the great ocean road or wilsons prom. Then spend the other week travelling up the coast via Sydney to visit the reef.

Fvck Adelaide. Don't go there. Disease ridden hell hole.

We may be a hell hole, and disease ridden, and have dead bodies in our rivers, but we have the wine.

So like Werribee, but with wine?

there is definately wine in werribee, it flows from the wine skins like rain for the critters that can buy it from one of the many liqour outlets. also there are no rivers, just a turd brown creek that dissolves corpses.

[Farva]

there are no rivers, just a turd brown creek that dissolves corpses.

Again much like Adelaide.

[Farva]

They need to fix this:

SA Police will launch an investigation into the lie by a Woodville pizza bar worker that sparked SA's lockdown, which will now lift at midnight on Saturday. There are three new cases today, all in quarantine.
...
However, the man will escape penalty because there is no available penalty for lying to contact tracers.

The above is a reference to criminal penalty, so that does not exclude other legal action, but query he has assets sufficient to make it worthwhile.

I’m a little surprised that the language used has been so heavy.
This guy is now the most hated man in Adelaide (even more than the bodies in a barrel guy). That’s all down to the language used. And he hasn’t had a trial yet.
In my experience, the contact tracers in Australia are scatter gun. The questions are all over the place. It’s entirely feasible that they asked him whether he went there for a pizza and that is what he answered or whether he was actively trying to hide his employment (as it contravened his visa perhaps). Don’t forget Wnglish isn’t his first language and he would have been sick and stressed having just received a Covid diagnosis. That’s on top of the terrible questioning (there are multiple people, information they give is often contradictory, etc) the contact tracers gave.

If he deliberately lied screw him. But I think there is a real chance that it’s not the full story. And for the premier to destroy someone’s reputation like that is pretty repugnant.

[Ali's Choice]

I haven't checked in to this thread for a while. Is Clogs still venting daily about 'Dictator Dan'? And is he still demanding that the weak and elderly be sacrificed so that young, productive people can work and earn money?

[Clogs]

I haven't checked in to this thread for a while. Is Clogs still venting daily about 'Dictator Dan'? And is he still demanding that the weak and elderly be sacrificed so that young, productive people can work and earn money?

Penguin Random House gave you a few days off did they?

[MungoMan]

I haven't checked in to this thread for a while. Is Clogs still venting daily about 'Dictator Dan'? And is he still demanding that the weak and elderly be sacrificed so that young, productive people can work and earn money?

Penguin Random House gave you a few days off did they?

If you have a moment of mature reflection, you might think about dotting that. It's lame to the nth and more than a bit embarrassing.

[Slim 293]

One rule for SAS, another for Dan Andrews

If we want the truth from our military about how people were killed in Afghanistan, we must also demand it from our political leaders about why people died in Victoria, Peta Credlin writes.

[Pat the Ex Mat]

One for Clogs as I'm positive he's a fan:

[True Blue]

The thread title needs a-changin’, because Covid in Melbourne is goooooooooooooooooooone...

Meanwhile, 18,000 cases in Texas today. America, fudge yeah.

[kiwigreg369]

One rule for SAS, another for Dan Andrews

If we want the truth from our military about how people were killed in Afghanistan, we must also demand it from our political leaders about why people died in Victoria, Peta Credlin writes.

i hope we see a mocked up chinese picture....

[Clogs]

One for Clogs as I'm positive he's a fan:

[Slim 293]

One for Clogs as I'm positive he's a fan:

[Ellafan]

One rule for SAS, another for Dan Andrews

If we want the truth from our military about how people were killed in Afghanistan, we must also demand it from our political leaders about why people died in Victoria, Peta Credlin writes.

i hope we see a mocked up chinese picture....

We don't need one KG. Everyone knows why the Vic government really "decided" to use contractors/subcontractors including front businesses for the likes of Mick Gatto.

Here is an extract from the statement to the enquiry of Lisa Neville (Vic Police Minister). National cabinet made the decision to use hotel quarantine at about 1200 midday - the fix was in within about 90 minutes.

"On 27 March 2020, I attended a meeting with Chief Commissioner Ashton and Commissioner Crisp to discuss pandemic issues. This was a regular daily meeting I had had with both of them most days since the pandemic had been underway in Victoria. The meeting had been scheduled before the announcements of hotel quarantine, and was not specifically concerned with the HQP. However, the proposal for the HQP was briefly discussed at the meeting, as well as other important existing issues.

My calendar shows that the meeting, using Microsoft Teams, was to start at 1:30pm, but I am now aware that it commenced closer to 2pm. I am aware that, as well as Commissioner Crisp, Chief Commissioner Ashton and myself, Corri McKenzie, Deputy Secretary, Police Fines and Crime Prevention, was present. Based on the invitations in my calendar, I believe that Kate Fitzgerald, Deputy Secretary of Emergency Management Victoria and David Griffith, my Chief of Staff, also attended.

By the time the meeting started, I already knew about the decision that DJPR was responsible for standing up the HQP, from the telephone call described in paragraph 20 above. To the best of my recollection, I believe that I first heard that private security would be used to guard returned travellers during the meeting.

The involvement of DJPR or use of private security were not raised for a decision in that meeting or for any particular input by me. I understood from the phone call I had already received, and the discussion at the meeting, that the broad structure of the HQP, including the use of private security and involvement of DJPR, had already been decided.

And the link is:

https://www.quarantineinquiry.vic.gov.au/exhibits

[towny]

Genuine question, but is Melbourne any good to visit (post Covid)? The missus has a friend living there who can put us up, and we're thinking it will be the first place we ravel once everyone has been dosed up with a cure.

Is there enough to do for an entire week...two weeks?

Melbourne is pretty okay. That is, if you like food or looking at stuff. Mornington Penisula is okay if you like beaches and wineries and food. King Valley is good if you like wine and food and mountains. Melbourne gets a few sports events if you like that shit. Coffee is tolerable. People aren’t all plums.