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Ali's Choice wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:49 am
Clogs wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:44 am
Ali's Choice wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:36 am
Slim 293 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:31 am Clogs still believes they’re are all just tradies… :roll:
The Assistant Commissioner of Police was interviewed tonight. When asked of the make-up of the rioters, he said that only a very small portion of them were tradies, with the vast majority being individuals who have links to previous anti-lockdown and far-right groups. The fact that the CFMEU headquarters was targeted by these rioters suggests that these were not tradies. Having watched trade union protests over many years, I've never seen them attack and destroy their own buildings.
It is remarkable that after the tradies lunch rooms were shut down, and they went on disruptive snap strikes in the streets of Melbourne to then it being announced that it was mandatory for tradies to get a jab in order to work, and they then reacted to that too, to then having all their work shut down 2 weeks, that suddenly the secretive right wing nazis have popped up out of the woodwork in solidarity with their left wing Labor supporting brethren.

Incredible that you are trying to sell this horse shit.

You need to re read some of the shit you are posting.
You're a joke of a poster. You're now Australia's very own Mick Mannock. A proud conspiracy theorist. If your anti-lockdown, anti-police rhetoric wasn't so dangerous it would be funny. There has been almost unlimited evidence that shows that these rioters are largely the same crew who have been attending ant-lockdown protests for months.
:lol:
I am the conspiracy theorist? You are the one desperately peddling there were no left wing militant union members protesting against mandatory vaccinations and/or if they were union Members then the CFMEU has been infiltrated by right win nazi domestic terrorists.

Unbefvckinglievable. I have caught many many fish in my time, but I have never seen as much slippery flip flopping and contorting and twisting as I have these last few days in this thread.

You fvcking Marxists don't know what to say or when or how anymore. Covid has utterly brain fvcked you into dazed crazed utterly out of touch stage of just utter fvcking garbage claims. Domestic fvcking terrorists instead of CFMEU members protesting mandatory vaccination and construction shut downs?

FFS you are emarassing yourselves.

:lol:
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Ali's Choice wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:17 am
Ellafan wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:12 am Very deft attempted goal post shift there, AC :thumbup: But it failed. Along with the strawmanning. I am very proud of the ex ADF member who went down to the Shrine, wearing his medals (and/or his grandad's medals), and addressed the protestors and asked them to go and protest somewhere else. None of you soft lefties on this thread would have the guts to risk physical assault like that.
Says the poster with the softest hands on this entire forum. You've worn a suit to work your entire life and the closest you've ever gotten to the 'bush' is a weekend away camping on the Hawkesbury River. Please don't pretend you're tough.
It didn't work the first time, so you predictably crank it up and go again. :lol: You really need to pay the extra $47 to get trolling for dummies 102, and get some new ideas.

You have a very limited idea of where I have been or what I have done, BTW ;)
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Clogs wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:20 am
Ali's Choice wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:53 am
Duff Paddy wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:49 am
Ali's Choice wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:44 am Terrorism expert on ABC right now, explaining how the constant references to 'Dictator Dan' by sections of the Murdoch media has fuelled the anger and sentiment that has led to the protests in Melbourne over the past three days.
Sure they’re hardly any better calling a terrorism expert to comment on protestors
These are domestic terrorists mate. And they are rioters, not protesters.

As AC wants you to believe. This is what a Melbourne terrorist looks like.

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Jeez Clogs, if you don't think that is terrifying, your standards have hit the floor mate. x(
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Clogs wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:44 am
Ali's Choice wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:49 am
Clogs wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:44 am
Ali's Choice wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:36 am
Slim 293 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:31 am Clogs still believes they’re are all just tradies… :roll:
The Assistant Commissioner of Police was interviewed tonight. When asked of the make-up of the rioters, he said that only a very small portion of them were tradies, with the vast majority being individuals who have links to previous anti-lockdown and far-right groups. The fact that the CFMEU headquarters was targeted by these rioters suggests that these were not tradies. Having watched trade union protests over many years, I've never seen them attack and destroy their own buildings.
It is remarkable that after the tradies lunch rooms were shut down, and they went on disruptive snap strikes in the streets of Melbourne to then it being announced that it was mandatory for tradies to get a jab in order to work, and they then reacted to that too, to then having all their work shut down 2 weeks, that suddenly the secretive right wing nazis have popped up out of the woodwork in solidarity with their left wing Labor supporting brethren.

Incredible that you are trying to sell this horse shit.

You need to re read some of the shit you are posting.
You're a joke of a poster. You're now Australia's very own Mick Mannock. A proud conspiracy theorist. If your anti-lockdown, anti-police rhetoric wasn't so dangerous it would be funny. There has been almost unlimited evidence that shows that these rioters are largely the same crew who have been attending ant-lockdown protests for months.
:lol:
I am the conspiracy theorist? You are the one desperately peddling there were no left wing militant union members protesting against mandatory vaccinations and/or if they were union Members then the CFMEU has been infiltrated by right win nazi domestic terrorists.

Unbefvckinglievable. I have caught many many fish in my time, but I have never seen as much slippery flip flopping and contorting and twisting as I have these last few days in this thread.

You fvcking Marxists don't know what to say or when or how anymore. Covid has utterly brain fvcked you into dazed crazed utterly out of touch stage of just utter fvcking garbage claims. Domestic fvcking terrorists instead of CFMEU members protesting mandatory vaccination and construction shut downs?

FFS you are emarassing yourselves.

:lol:
The Age wrote:
The CFMEU says the majority of the protesters are not union members and the crowds include far-right extremists.
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Ted. wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:15 pm
Clogs wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:20 am
Ali's Choice wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:53 am
Duff Paddy wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:49 am
Ali's Choice wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:44 am Terrorism expert on ABC right now, explaining how the constant references to 'Dictator Dan' by sections of the Murdoch media has fuelled the anger and sentiment that has led to the protests in Melbourne over the past three days.
Sure they’re hardly any better calling a terrorism expert to comment on protestors
These are domestic terrorists mate. And they are rioters, not protesters.

As AC wants you to believe. This is what a Melbourne terrorist looks like.

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Jeez Clogs, if you don't think that is terrifying, your standards have hit the floor mate. x(
I find her claims to be highly dubious.

I strongly suspect it is in fact a gnarly jungle the Viet Cong would get lost in.
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jdogscoop wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:18 am
Ali's Choice wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:17 am
Ellafan wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:12 am Very deft attempted goal post shift there, AC :thumbup: But it failed. Along with the strawmanning. I am very proud of the ex ADF member who went down to the Shrine, wearing his medals (and/or his grandad's medals), and addressed the protestors and asked them to go and protest somewhere else. None of you soft lefties on this thread would have the guts to risk physical assault like that.
Says the poster with the softest hands on this entire forum. You've worn a suit to work your entire life and the closest you've ever gotten to the 'bush' is a weekend away camping on the Hawkesbury River. Please don't pretend you're tough.
:lol:
So, tell me Jdog, did you go down to the Shrine today and address the scum who defiled it and tell them to go and protest somewhere else?
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Ellafan wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:31 pm
jdogscoop wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:18 am
Ali's Choice wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:17 am
Ellafan wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:12 am Very deft attempted goal post shift there, AC :thumbup: But it failed. Along with the strawmanning. I am very proud of the ex ADF member who went down to the Shrine, wearing his medals (and/or his grandad's medals), and addressed the protestors and asked them to go and protest somewhere else. None of you soft lefties on this thread would have the guts to risk physical assault like that.
Says the poster with the softest hands on this entire forum. You've worn a suit to work your entire life and the closest you've ever gotten to the 'bush' is a weekend away camping on the Hawkesbury River. Please don't pretend you're tough.
:lol:
So, tell me Jdog, did you go down to the Shrine today and address the scum who defiled it and tell them to go and protest somewhere else?
What a strange question. Like most rational, law-abiding citizens I left demonstrator control during lockdown restrictions to the 400-plus professionals from Victoria Police.
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Ali's Choice wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:31 am Image
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jdogscoop wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:36 pm
Ellafan wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:31 pm
jdogscoop wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:18 am
Ali's Choice wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:17 am
Ellafan wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:12 am Very deft attempted goal post shift there, AC :thumbup: But it failed. Along with the strawmanning. I am very proud of the ex ADF member who went down to the Shrine, wearing his medals (and/or his grandad's medals), and addressed the protestors and asked them to go and protest somewhere else. None of you soft lefties on this thread would have the guts to risk physical assault like that.
Says the poster with the softest hands on this entire forum. You've worn a suit to work your entire life and the closest you've ever gotten to the 'bush' is a weekend away camping on the Hawkesbury River. Please don't pretend you're tough.
:lol:
So, tell me Jdog, did you go down to the Shrine today and address the scum who defiled it and tell them to go and protest somewhere else?
What a strange question. Like most rational, law-abiding citizens I left demonstrator control during lockdown restrictions to the 400-plus professionals from Victoria Police.
So, you didn't want to risk physical assault then?
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Ellafan wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:38 pm
Ali's Choice wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:31 am Image
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Convenient they suddenly care about this as they piss all over the freedoms and rights of the citizens of Melbourne. That is extremely disingenuous of the Victoria police.
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I’m not sure why it’s being disputed when it was clearly on display for all to see, but…
But the initial rally appears to have since been hijacked by far-right extremists, allegedly including neo-Nazis and anti-vaccination groups, who have organised via Telegram, Facebook and WhatsApp. Comments circulating on social media channels, seen by the Guardian, are explicitly racist, antisemitic, and include conspiracy theorist tropes.

Previous days had been dominated by people dressed in high-vis clothing – ostensibly tradespeople – but they were in the minority at Wednesday’s protest.

“There weren’t as many tradies as we could see – the group seemed much more mixed in terms of their motivations,” the police deputy commissioner, Ross Guenther, said.
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Slim 293 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:02 pm I’m not sure why it’s being disputed when it was clearly on display for all to see, but…
But the initial rally appears to have since been hijacked by far-right extremists, allegedly including neo-Nazis and anti-vaccination groups, who have organised via Telegram, Facebook and WhatsApp. Comments circulating on social media channels, seen by the Guardian, are explicitly racist, antisemitic, and include conspiracy theorist tropes.

Previous days had been dominated by people dressed in high-vis clothing – ostensibly tradespeople – but they were in the minority at Wednesday’s protest.

“There weren’t as many tradies as we could see – the group seemed much more mixed in terms of their motivations,” the police deputy commissioner, Ross Guenther, said.
FFS Slim, you can't make an allegation about numbers today that has more plausibility now, than for previous days, and then just backdate it. I know you are quoting one journo from the Guardian, but the DC made it clear in answer to a question at the presser that while there was a mix, he would not commit to one or other group being in the majority pending further enquiries.
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Clogs wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:44 am
Ali's Choice wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:49 am
Clogs wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:44 am
Ali's Choice wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:36 am
Slim 293 wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:31 am Clogs still believes they’re are all just tradies… :roll:
The Assistant Commissioner of Police was interviewed tonight. When asked of the make-up of the rioters, he said that only a very small portion of them were tradies, with the vast majority being individuals who have links to previous anti-lockdown and far-right groups. The fact that the CFMEU headquarters was targeted by these rioters suggests that these were not tradies. Having watched trade union protests over many years, I've never seen them attack and destroy their own buildings.
It is remarkable that after the tradies lunch rooms were shut down, and they went on disruptive snap strikes in the streets of Melbourne to then it being announced that it was mandatory for tradies to get a jab in order to work, and they then reacted to that too, to then having all their work shut down 2 weeks, that suddenly the secretive right wing nazis have popped up out of the woodwork in solidarity with their left wing Labor supporting brethren.

Incredible that you are trying to sell this horse shit.

You need to re read some of the shit you are posting.
You're a joke of a poster. You're now Australia's very own Mick Mannock. A proud conspiracy theorist. If your anti-lockdown, anti-police rhetoric wasn't so dangerous it would be funny. There has been almost unlimited evidence that shows that these rioters are largely the same crew who have been attending ant-lockdown protests for months.
:lol:
I am the conspiracy theorist? You are the one desperately peddling there were no left wing militant union members protesting against mandatory vaccinations and/or if they were union Members then the CFMEU has been infiltrated by right win nazi domestic terrorists.

Unbefvckinglievable. I have caught many many fish in my time, but I have never seen as much slippery flip flopping and contorting and twisting as I have these last few days in this thread.

You fvcking Marxists don't know what to say or when or how anymore. Covid has utterly brain fvcked you into dazed crazed utterly out of touch stage of just utter fvcking garbage claims. Domestic fvcking terrorists instead of CFMEU members protesting mandatory vaccination and construction shut downs?

FFS you are emarassing yourselves.

:lol:
That’s some impressive projection right there. :lol:
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:lol:

Careful, he'll try and tell you he's in your head rent free with that carry on.

He's clearly not in his own head, he must be living somewhere.
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The Video footage seen from Melbourne today is shocking. Australia and US, gonna be great bed fellows.

It's not an alliance I am happy to see the UK join.

While Sweden, Denmark and Croatia move to a grown up Covid world.... AUKUS loses the plot completely.

Frightening times.
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Dozy wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:43 pm
Ellafan wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:38 pm
Ali's Choice wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:31 am Image
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Convenient they suddenly care about this as they piss all over the freedoms and rights of the citizens of Melbourne. That is extremely disingenuous of the Victoria police.
Fcuk you’re a dumb cnut.
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Ted. wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:15 pm
Clogs wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:20 am
Ali's Choice wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:53 am
Duff Paddy wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:49 am
Ali's Choice wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:44 am Terrorism expert on ABC right now, explaining how the constant references to 'Dictator Dan' by sections of the Murdoch media has fuelled the anger and sentiment that has led to the protests in Melbourne over the past three days.
Sure they’re hardly any better calling a terrorism expert to comment on protestors
These are domestic terrorists mate. And they are rioters, not protesters.

As AC wants you to believe. This is what a Melbourne terrorist looks like.

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Jeez Clogs, if you don't think that is terrifying, your standards have hit the floor mate. x(
'ken oath.

Also, sonic attack wants his avatar back.
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It's pleasing to see the The Daily Telegraph doing what it can to calm the situation down in Melbourne :thumbup:

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Dan Andrews recounting how yesterday people who were vaccinating homeless people in the CBD were set upon and spat on by anti-vaxxer rioters. That's pretty shit.
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They've had to shut down the Town Hall vaccination hub due to the neo-nazi, anti-science, animal abusers... :thumbdown:
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Slim 293 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:07 am neo-nazi, anti-science, animal abusers...
Sounds like a CFMEU recruitment poster.
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https://vic.cfmeu.org/leadership-messag ... ur-enemies
SEEING OFF OUR ENEMIES

Our slogan in the BL days was always “Dare to Struggle, Dare to Win”. We struggled and we won: amenities, health and safety, clothing issue, the 36 hour week, decent wages, superannuation, redundancy, sick leave and long service leave.

“If you don’t fight, you lose” was the second part, but I’ve got to say, these days it’s “if you take on the CFMEU, you lose”. Our enemies don’t have the fight in them and we’re seeing them off one by one.

I’m not talking about dual citizenships knocking off politician after politician; other than our Aboriginal and Islander brothers and sisters, we’re all immigrants. I’m talking about the ones who picked a fight and fell.

For me, I like “The Most Committed Wins” as a saying because it’s true. That’s why we win and that’s why we see off our enemies, because we’re committed to what we do and we won’t back down.

Tony Abbott picked a fight with unions when he introduced WorkChoices with John Howard. We never forgot what he tried to do to workers and when the Liberal Party put him up as leader, well that didn’t last long.

Damien Mantach was the Victorian Liberal Party Director who orchestrated the campaign that tried to knock out the Labor Party by tying them to us, the CFMEU. They ran TV ads with my face and the CFMEU all over them. Not only did the Liberal Party lose that election, Damian Mantach is in jail for $1.5 million of fraud.

Dyson Heydon ran the latest Royal Commission designed to bring down the union movement and almost nothing has come of that. After being exposed as the Liberal Party’s special guest for a fundraiser, he refused to front up and face questioning himself at a Senate Inquiry into the ABCC. He obviously thought he was above the law, which was exactly what he accused the CFMEU of thinking.

Nigel Hadgkiss has been waging war on the CFMEU and the union movement with his ABCC for years. He’s gone, we’re still here. His illegal raids, failed prosecutions and misleading advice didn’t just make him an embarrassment to the Liberals, it landed him in court, pleading guilty to breaking the very laws he was supposed to enforce.

Now we have Michaelia Cash the apparent Minister for Employment. Another embarrassment for the imploding Turnbull Government, Cash fled the scene rather than face the music and resign after being caught out conducting raids on union offices as a media stunt.

She’s not committed, not like we are. Just like raids on CFMEU offices have been found to be illegal and documents have been returned, the raids on the AWU will result in nothing. It’s a pathetic PR stunt for a government that’s falling apart and hated – behind in the polls and turning on each other.

We are the most committed and it’s easy to see why. We’re fighting for the lives of workers, for our families, for our jobs and for the future of our industry and country. They just want to win the next election.

A proud history going back well over 100 years, wages and conditions fought for by generations of union members and safety that means we get home at the end of the day. Yes we’re committed, yes we’ll win and yes we’ll continue to see off our enemies because in the end, they’re fighting for nothing.



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Slim 293 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:07 am They've had to shut down the Town Hall vaccination hub due to the neo-nazi, anti-science, animal abusers... :thumbdown:
Clogs calls the anti-vaxx thugs "Freedom Fighters".
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https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... 58tiy.html
Inside the insurrection: Why construction workers took to the street
Ben Schneiders
By Ben Schneiders
September 21, 2021 — 7.14pm



The pressure within the construction industry has been building for months. Those opposed to vaccines or the hesitant – some among them close allies of construction union leader John Setka – have been growing angry and increasingly voluble.

The feeling is not confined to the Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union. Those who are outright opposed to COVID-19 vaccines, including the far right, have been trawling union forums online for months, raising suspicions about the jab, about lockdowns and the state government’s policies. ACTU secretary Sally McManus spoke recently about the issue emerging across a number of blue-collar unions.

Growing frustrations have exploded onto the streets.


But in the CFMEU, with its anti-authority culture and a persecution complex – sometimes justified, sometimes not – the opposition to vaccinations struck a particular chord, according to a number of sources close to the union who spoke anonymously to protect their positions.

By September 1, weeks before the state government made a first COVID-19 vaccination dose mandatory for those working on building sites, union officials were feeling the pressure. They put out a statement: the union did not support an anti-vaccine public rally, planned for later that month, that was due to start from the front of the union’s offices.

While vaccines were “the only way out of this pandemic”, the union told its members, it supported choice and it was “up to the individual” to decide.

The CFMEU was treading a fine line. Many on its Facebook thread supported the position. A loud minority did not.

A post on the CFMEU Facebook page from September 1
A post on the CFMEU Facebook page from September 1CREDIT:FACEBOOK

“You’s should be out in the street fighting against this tyranny not coercing members into the no jab, no job scenario,” one commenter wrote. “When will we rally against mandatory vaccinations, all the boys are ready to go,” said another.

“Will the union stand up for those who choose not to take the experimental vaccine,” said a third.

On Monday, those feelings exploded into action. Their frustration was directed not at the state government but at the union itself.

A crowd marched off city construction sites to the union’s Elizabeth Street office, smashing windows, hurling abuse and projectiles at Mr Setka, who, they chanted, was “Dan Andrews’ bitch”. The mayhem continued on Tuesday, initially in front of the union office, and later with protesters ranging widely around the city, blocking traffic and setting off flares.


The Age has spoken to half-a-dozen union people with strong links to and knowledge of the CFMEU, none of whom would comment publicly, fearing retribution or for their jobs. They say that while the CFMEU construction division is publicly regarded as a militant left-wing union, over the past 15 years its politics and practices have morphed.

Under Mr Setka, the CFMEU has left behind the strong class-based stance of its former leaders John Cummins and Martin Kingham and the Builders Labourers Federation’s Maoist leader, Norm Gallagher.

Long-time left-wing activists complain that Mr Setka has surrounded himself instead with a patronage network of shop stewards who are often related to him or, like him, from the Croatian community.

Many are, in fact, fiercely anti-communist and right-wing, with their families having fled Tito’s Yugoslavia. One Setka supporter attended a stewards’ meeting last year with a sticker on his car of a Croatian army division which fought alongside the Nazis in the 1940s.

And among these groups, anti-vax sentiment is rife.


Over months, Mr Setka has been forced to play a delicate game, supporting vaccines publicly while some of his members, and strongest supporters, wanted to fight any push to make the jab mandatory.

He was also under intense pressure on another front after his estranged wife, Emma Walters, provided a sworn statement to police in late August that Mr Setka had assaulted her. He had been previously convicted of harassing her and breaching court orders in 2019 and ever since has been on the warpath against opponents in the labour movement who want him to quit. An investigation into the alleged assault “remains ongoing”, police have confirmed.

At the same time, conditions in the construction industry were imploding. Three major Melbourne sites had significant COVID-19 outbreaks.


That industry was one of the few that had stayed largely open throughout Victoria’s 200-plus days of lockdown. Now, suddenly, there was pressure for it to shut down.

When Chief Health Officer Brett Sutton ordered last week that lunchrooms must close and vaccines would be mandatory from September 24 for those who wanted to continue working, the frustrations came into full public view.

Last Friday, workers downed tools and closed city streets to use tram lines and roads as their lunchrooms. Some even wheeled out barbecues.

It was a classic building worker protest – an “up yours” to the bosses and the government. Many who know Mr Setka suspect he helped orchestrate it, or at least encouraged it.

Mr Setka denied it was even a protest – the blokes just needed somewhere to eat.

The public reaction, however, was mostly negative. Many others, they noted, were suffering through the pandemic and were unable to work. What did construction workers have to complain about?

Inside the union, some observed what a blunt instrument the government’s directives were. The closure of lunchrooms was significant in a hazardous industry while the mandatory vaccination order did not account for the bubbling tension within the sector.

For some workers, it fed an ever-present sense of victimhood. For others, it pointed to the CFMEU’s lack of influence and input under a leader isolated from much of the labour movement.

Then on Monday came the trigger. Workers hated a proposal pushed by the union for no rest breaks and workers being paid eight hours for six hours’ work. Most construction contractors rejected the push as well.

People walked off their city building sites in their hundreds.

Senior CFMEU figures say far-right activists and anti-vaxxers exploited the situation, but it was wrong to say, as Mr Setka did on Tuesday, that there was “a small minority of construction workers” at Monday’s melee who had quickly walked away because of the violence of “professional protesters”.


Senior figures estimated that about 80 to 90 per cent of the protesters were construction workers.
Others said they knew many of the people at Monday’s rally as union delegates and members. Not all were opposed to vaccinations or were right-wing. Some were annoyed at the union caving in on safety and workers’ rights.

But by the end of the day, the union office was under such serious attack that officials turned fire hoses on protesters. In the end, they were bailed out by police, long the enemy of the CFMEU. The government promptly shut down the industry for a fortnight.

The blowback has been swift. Some rally attendees have already been sacked by their employers, industry sources say. Publicly, the union movement and supporters dismissed the protesters as far-right ring-ins and Nazis; Mr Setka colourfully called them “fascist un-Australian morons”.

But a separate message from four of Victoria’s building unions, including the CFMEU, seemed to mix that message: they had warned the government against making vaccines mandatory, they said, because it would cause “anger” and “discontent” in the industry.

As Mr Setka addressed the crowd on Monday, before he was forced back inside his battered office, he’d have known many of the protesters confronting him. They came from employers with close links to him and the union, such as I&D, a concrete formwork company.

One protester on Monday caught the mood, shouting at Mr Setka that they were the ones who paid his wages, and referring to “fighting for our freedom in Croatia”.

“Those boys fought against communism. Now we are staring down the barrel of communism again,” the man yelled. “No f---ing c--- is going to put a vaccine inside me.”
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Clogs, I'm pretty sure you posted a link to that same article two days ago. Why now have you copy and pasted it?
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Ali's Choice wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:30 am
Slim 293 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:07 am They've had to shut down the Town Hall vaccination hub due to the neo-nazi, anti-science, animal abusers... :thumbdown:
Clogs calls the anti-vaxx thugs "Freedom Fighters".
They are union thugs. Unhappy because their industry has been shut down. Unhappy because they don't want to get vaccinated. Unhappy because their lunch rooms have been closed.

This industry and its union is so out of touch with what the rest of us have been enduring. And in typical union fashion, when threatened, they protest violently.

They aren't freedom fighters, they are union thugs with a sprinkling of utterly deranged fvcktards in the mix. Although in fairness it is very difficult to tell any of the apart.
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So the Melb Freedom Rally/Reignite Democracy Australia/United Patriots Front/Facebook "independent "media bloggers etc. plan on targeting vaccination hubs today...

Pieces... of... shit.
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Slim 293 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 3:45 am So the Melb Freedom Rally/Reignite Democracy Australia/United Patriots Front/Facebook "independent "media bloggers etc. plan on targeting vaccination hubs today...

Pieces... of... shit.
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^ :lol: :lol:
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The protesters may be complete plums, but this is f**ked up.

https://twitter.com/fictillius/status/1 ... 4047843334
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Bindi wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:32 am The protesters may be complete plums, but this is f**ked up.

https://twitter.com/fictillius/status/1 ... 4047843334
That could quite easily kill someone.
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Bindi wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:32 am The protesters may be complete plums, but this is f**ked up.

https://twitter.com/fictillius/status/1 ... 4047843334
:shock: :shock:
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Pakia Pakia wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:38 am
Bindi wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:32 am The protesters may be complete plums, but this is f**ked up.

https://twitter.com/fictillius/status/1 ... 4047843334
That could quite easily kill someone.
You'd think after George Floyd, cops wouldn't be so dumb in front of people filming.
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Ali's Choice wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:01 am Is it wrong that I want to see these anti-lockdown/anti-vaccine thugs get bashed up by riot police?

https://twitter.com/fictillius/status/1 ... 4047843334


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Bindi wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:46 am
Pakia Pakia wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:38 am
Bindi wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 5:32 am The protesters may be complete plums, but this is f**ked up.

https://twitter.com/fictillius/status/1 ... 4047843334
That could quite easily kill someone.
You'd think after George Floyd, cops wouldn't be so dumb in front of people filming.
As much as in general cops do great work as they mandated to to people forget they recruit some very basically educated and intelligent people. If they weren't cops they would be security or pub bouncers. The power trip often collides with their restraint.
Everyone has a story to tell like this of someone known affected.
Plus its Victorian police, they have a reputation.
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I had to listen to some nutcase driving around St Kilda and Carlton looking for a protest for over an hour, spouting nonsensical theories about the media propaganda machine owned by those who control the world false flag staged militarised police state new world order something something...

I could really go for a body slam right now.
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Slim 293 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:10 am I had to listen to some nutcase driving around St Kilda and Carlton looking for a protest for over an hour, spouting nonsensical theories about the media propaganda machine owned by those who control the world false flag staged militarised police state new world order something something...

I could really go for a body slam right now.
Why didn't you just drop him off?
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Clogs wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:28 am
Slim 293 wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 6:10 am I had to listen to some nutcase's facebook live stream, driving around St Kilda and Carlton looking for a protest for over an hour, spouting nonsensical theories about the media propaganda machine owned by those who control the world false flag staged militarised police state new world order something something...

I could really go for a body slam right now.
Why didn't you just drop him off?

Fixed...
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