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bimboman wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:20 pm https://twitter.com/melbprisoner/status ... 0003696641


It’s all going well then.

MungoMan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:24 pm

bimboman wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:20 pm https://twitter.com/melbprisoner/status ... 0003696641


It’s all going well then.

Another reminder of why I hate tw@tter.

MungoMan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:24 pm

bimboman wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:20 pm https://twitter.com/melbprisoner/status ... 0003696641


It’s all going well then.

Another reminder why I hate tw@tter.

Farva wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:36 pm I dare say that police officer will be enjoying some quarantine time himself fairly soon

bimboman wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:26 pm

MungoMan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:24 pm

bimboman wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:20 pm https://twitter.com/melbprisoner/status ... 0003696641


It’s all going well then.

Another reminder why I hate tw@tter.

I’m with you. That head stomp though needs prosecution.

MungoMan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:43 pm

bimboman wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:26 pm

MungoMan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:24 pm

bimboman wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:20 pm https://twitter.com/melbprisoner/status ... 0003696641


It’s all going well then.

Another reminder why I hate tw@tter.

I’m with you. That head stomp though needs prosecution.

It does and I hope it is forthcoming

Ellafan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:31 pm

MungoMan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:43 pm

bimboman wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:26 pm

MungoMan wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:24 pm

bimboman wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 12:20 pm https://twitter.com/melbprisoner/status ... 0003696641


It’s all going well then.

Another reminder why I hate tw@tter.

I’m with you. That head stomp though needs prosecution.

It does and I hope it is forthcoming

I actually think the officer who deliberately drove the vehicle into him (after stopping) is more requiring of prosecution than the head stomp, although they both require gaol time.

Pat the Ex Mat wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:28 pm VicPol have been like this far longer than these covid restrictions.

MungoMan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:53 am

Pat the Ex Mat wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:28 pm VicPol have been like this far longer than these covid restrictions.

They certainly have. And news has just come in of VicPol shooting (not fatally, it seems) some fella at Lilydale. Mind you, according to a non-police witness the fella was waving a large knife.

Farva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:20 am Anyway, old stompy has been stood down pending an inquiry. One would assume prison is in his future.

MungoMan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:53 am

Pat the Ex Mat wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:28 pm VicPol have been like this far longer than these covid restrictions.

They certainly have. And news has just come in of VicPol shooting (not fatally, it seems) some fella at Lilydale. Mind you, according to a non-police witness the fella was waving a large knife.

CrazyIslander wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:23 am

MungoMan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 2:53 am

Pat the Ex Mat wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:28 pm VicPol have been like this far longer than these covid restrictions.

They certainly have. And news has just come in of VicPol shooting (not fatally, it seems) some fella at Lilydale. Mind you, according to a non-police witness the fella was waving a large knife.

Coronavirus Victoria: Twitter user dobs in boys selling soft drinks from stall

A Melbourne man has been abused on social media after he “dobbed in” two young boys selling soft drinks and lollies from a stall.


Frank Chung
@franks_chung

SEPTEMBER 15, 20201:24PM

A Melbourne man has been hounded off social media after “dobbing in” kids selling drinks from a stall during coronavirus lockdown, suggesting the council send “someone down there”.
The man, who has since deleted his Twitter account, posted a photo over the weekend of two young boys sitting at a makeshift stall fashioned from an ironing board, selling cans of soft drink and lollies.
“Group of lads selling sweets and drinks for cash in Ramsden Reserve, during stage four lockdown is pretty silly in my humble opinion,” he said in the post, which tagged the Yarra Council Twitter handle.
“Maybe worth sending someone down there? They didn’t listen to me. Along the Yarra Trail walking track.”
The post drew hundreds of angry responses, with many criticising him for showing the children’s faces.
“OMG, arrest them immediately. Selling soft drinks and lollies on a sunny spring day, how dare they,” one person wrote.
Another said, “A grown man dobbing on a couple of kids for doing something completely harmless and posting their photo online is pretty silly in my humble opinion.”
Herald Sun columnist Rita Panahi linked to the tweet, writing, “Look at this hero dobbing in a couple of kids for supposedly breaking lockdown restrictions.”

Farva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:20 am Anyway, old stompy has been stood down pending an inquiry. One would assume prison is in his future.

Ellafan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:56 am

Farva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:20 am Anyway, old stompy has been stood down pending an inquiry. One would assume prison is in his future.

What about the one driving the car?

Ellafan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:56 am

Farva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:20 am Anyway, old stompy has been stood down pending an inquiry. One would assume prison is in his future.

What about the one driving the car?

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:40 am

Ellafan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:56 am

Farva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:20 am Anyway, old stompy has been stood down pending an inquiry. One would assume prison is in his future.

What about the one driving the car?

At the speed he hit the guy I doubt they will see that he did anything wrong. Doesn't seem to matter what country it is police seem to like beating up on people with mental health issues.

I think maybe the cops were upset that he had hit one of them and damaged the police car (before they hit him with it).

Farva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 6:50 am

Ellafan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:56 am

Farva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:20 am Anyway, old stompy has been stood down pending an inquiry. One would assume prison is in his future.

What about the one driving the car?

Havent heard. Hopefully the same fate.

Ellafan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:56 am

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:40 am

Ellafan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:56 am

Farva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:20 am Anyway, old stompy has been stood down pending an inquiry. One would assume prison is in his future.

What about the one driving the car?

At the speed he hit the guy I doubt they will see that he did anything wrong. Doesn't seem to matter what country it is police seem to like beating up on people with mental health issues.

I think maybe the cops were upset that he had hit one of them and damaged the police car (before they hit him with it).

Or, possibly. there is a ding on the bonnet where they knocked him down, and (not knowing they had been videoed) lied about it in their report.

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:00 am

Ellafan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:56 am

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:40 am

Ellafan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:56 am

Farva wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:20 am Anyway, old stompy has been stood down pending an inquiry. One would assume prison is in his future.

What about the one driving the car?

At the speed he hit the guy I doubt they will see that he did anything wrong. Doesn't seem to matter what country it is police seem to like beating up on people with mental health issues.

I think maybe the cops were upset that he had hit one of them and damaged the police car (before they hit him with it).

Or, possibly. there is a ding on the bonnet where they knocked him down, and (not knowing they had been videoed) lied about it in their report.

There is a massive sent in the car door

Ellafan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:28 am
If you are saying that he kicked the car door or somesuch, prior to the video starting, then that does not give the driver the right to use the car to knock him down.

Ellafan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:28 am

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:00 am

Ellafan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:56 am

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:40 am

Ellafan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 5:56 am

What about the one driving the car?

At the speed he hit the guy I doubt they will see that he did anything wrong. Doesn't seem to matter what country it is police seem to like beating up on people with mental health issues.

I think maybe the cops were upset that he had hit one of them and damaged the police car (before they hit him with it).

Or, possibly. there is a ding on the bonnet where they knocked him down, and (not knowing they had been videoed) lied about it in their report.

There is a massive sent in the car door

If you are saying that he kicked the car door or somesuch, prior to the video starting, then that does not give the driver the right to use the car to knock him down.

Clogs wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 10:41 am

Ellafan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:28 am

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:00 am

Ellafan wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:56 am

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 7:40 am
At the speed he hit the guy I doubt they will see that he did anything wrong. Doesn't seem to matter what country it is police seem to like beating up on people with mental health issues.

I think maybe the cops were upset that he had hit one of them and damaged the police car (before they hit him with it).

Or, possibly. there is a ding on the bonnet where they knocked him down, and (not knowing they had been videoed) lied about it in their report.

There is a massive sent in the car door

If you are saying that he kicked the car door or somesuch, prior to the video starting, then that does not give the driver the right to use the car to knock him down.

He kicked the door. That is on video. He had also spent around 20 hours in emergency awaiting treatment which wasn't provided. He voluntarily went to hospital to get treatment.

Pat the Ex Mat wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:28 pm VicPol have been like this far longer than these covid restrictions.

towny wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:31 pm

Pat the Ex Mat wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:28 pm VicPol have been like this far longer than these covid restrictions.

Exactly. This has happened a million times. This time someone filmed it.

towny wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:31 pm

Pat the Ex Mat wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:28 pm VicPol have been like this far longer than these covid restrictions.

Exactly. This has happened a million times. This time someone filmed it.

Ellafan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 2:10 am

towny wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:31 pm

Pat the Ex Mat wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:28 pm VicPol have been like this far longer than these covid restrictions.

Exactly. This has happened a million times. This time someone filmed it.

Before mobile phones with cameras, the rozzers would organise their version of events on the way back to the station, and then all stick to that like glue. Even if was a bit pongy, the police sergeant prosecutors in the magistrates' courts didn't challenge it.

It is entirely possible (and subject to Clogs identifying this further video he says exists) that the allegation the victim "damaged" the car was their agreed version of why there is a ding in the bonnet, and they didn't know they'd been filmed when they sorted out the story at the hospital car park and reported it back to their superiors.

Miami Police Union Says Cop Should Be "Commended" for Running Kick at Suspect's Head

The Miami Police Department has new union leadership, but its public statements remain as boneheaded as ever. Yesterday MPD Officer Mario Figueroa was acquitted of assault charges after he was filmed in May 2018 taking a running, football-punt-style kick at a handcuffed suspect's head. A judge ruled that because the kick actually missed, Figueroa didn't commit assault.

Miami Police Chief Jorge Colina yesterday told the Miami Herald that, even after the acquittal, he still doesn't think Figueroa should be a cop anymore. But MPD's Fraternal Order of Police, led by siblings Tommy and Matt Reyes, astoundingly chimed in on Twitter to say not only will the union defend him, but also Figueroa should be "commended" for his actions.

"It was going to be a kick and he deescalated as he was trained to do and pulled the kick," the person running the @MiamiFOP Twitter account wrote. "If anything he should be commended for his quick thinking and fast reflexes."

Video

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:25 am Come on they almost certainly are not accusing him of causing a "ding in the bonnet" just that rather obvious damage to the side of the car before he was hit with it.

Dep Comm Paterson said the man was “running amongst traffic, (and) kicking a police vehicle”. “At one stage he hops on the bonnet of a police vehicle and then we see the police vehicle hit the man and then members tackle the man to the ground,” he said.

https://www.news.com.au/national/victor ... 13fe5c44fa

Ellafan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:27 am

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:25 am Come on they almost certainly are not accusing him of causing a "ding in the bonnet" just that rather obvious damage to the side of the car before he was hit with it.

The only people making that allegation are the police themselves as far as I can tell. It's part of the usual spin and rank-closing.

Dep Comm Paterson said the man was “running amongst traffic, (and) kicking a police vehicle”. “At one stage he hops on the bonnet of a police vehicle and then we see the police vehicle hit the man and then members tackle the man to the ground,” he said.

https://www.news.com.au/national/victor ... 13fe5c44fa

That emboldened bit is on any objective examination of the video, poppycock, and makes the kicking assertion look suspect.

Until they actually present some evidence backing up their version, it should be treated as concocted horseshit.

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:40 am Only that we can see the rather obvious damage to the police car

At a press conference, Deputy Commissioner Neil Paterson said he had viewed the footage online and footage from the body cameras of officers and concluded that it was an "inappropriate use of force by a police member with regard to the kick or the stomp to the head of the man involved in that incident".

"I've also formed the view that the use of force in using a police vehicle with the man involved in that incident is concerning," he said.

[Paterson] described the man running among traffic, kicking a police car and hopping on its bonnet before being hit by the vehicle and tackled to the ground.

"We've got a man that's shown quite excessive violence at the hospital, smashed two large glass doors, taken them off their hinges and exited the hospital," Mr Paterson said.

"The police up there describe a situation where they thought this man will carjack a vehicle."

He added Mr Atkins was likely to be charged.

https://www.bendigoadvertiser.com.au/st ... p/?cs=9676

Ellafan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:52 pm

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:40 am Only that we can see the rather obvious damage to the police car

Are you familiar with what happens if you kick a (MOVING) vehicle - as opposed to that vision which looks like vehicle collision damage?

You might want to credit experience on this one anon.

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 1:09 pm

Ellafan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 12:52 pm

Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:40 am Only that we can see the rather obvious damage to the police car

Are you familiar with what happens if you kick a (MOVING) vehicle - as opposed to that vision which looks like vehicle collision damage?

You might want to credit experience on this one anon.

For at least the third time and maybe the fourth time but most defiantly the last time I am telling you that I am not saying I believe the police version of events. As for experience of crash damage I have plenty but I don't know if he did or didn't do the damage to the police car. It should all come out and it's pretty much irrelevant anyway.