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Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:24 am
by UncleFB
Jeff the Bear wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:39 am Genuine question, but is Melbourne any good to visit (post Covid)? The missus has a friend living there who can put us up, and we're thinking it will be the first place we ravel once everyone has been dosed up with a cure.

Is there enough to do for an entire week...two weeks?
Don’t listen to Clogs, I’m now convinced he’s never set foot in Melbourne.

You can definitely spend a week to two there (amd there’s the surrounds too).

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:29 am
by Zakar
Jeff the Bear wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:39 am Genuine question, but is Melbourne any good to visit (post Covid)? The missus has a friend living there who can put us up, and we're thinking it will be the first place we ravel once everyone has been dosed up with a cure.

Is there enough to do for an entire week...two weeks?
Its good for a visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:32 am
by Ogre
Zakar wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:29 am
Jeff the Bear wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:39 am Genuine question, but is Melbourne any good to visit (post Covid)? The missus has a friend living there who can put us up, and we're thinking it will be the first place we ravel once everyone has been dosed up with a cure.

Is there enough to do for an entire week...two weeks?
Its good for a visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.
Fvck Off We're Full :x

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:35 am
by Zakar
Ogre wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:32 am
Zakar wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:29 am
Jeff the Bear wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:39 am Genuine question, but is Melbourne any good to visit (post Covid)? The missus has a friend living there who can put us up, and we're thinking it will be the first place we ravel once everyone has been dosed up with a cure.

Is there enough to do for an entire week...two weeks?
Its good for a visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.
Fvck Off We're Full :x
Full of wit kant.

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:08 am
by Working Class Rugger
Zakar wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:35 am
Ogre wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:32 am
Zakar wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:29 am
Jeff the Bear wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:39 am Genuine question, but is Melbourne any good to visit (post Covid)? The missus has a friend living there who can put us up, and we're thinking it will be the first place we ravel once everyone has been dosed up with a cure.

Is there enough to do for an entire week...two weeks?
Its good for a visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.
Fvck Off We're Full :x
Full of plum.

Can confirm.

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:41 am
by Clogs
Sensible Stephen wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:01 am
Clogs wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:55 am
Jeff the Bear wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:39 am Genuine question, but is Melbourne any good to visit (post Covid)? The missus has a friend living there who can put us up, and we're thinking it will be the first place we ravel once everyone has been dosed up with a cure.

Is there enough to do for an entire week...two weeks?
There is a fair bit to do. A week would do it. A few days shopping, dining etc and a few days down the great ocean road or wilsons prom. Then spend the other week travelling up the coast via Sydney to visit the reef.

Fvck Adelaide. Don't go there. Disease ridden hell hole.
We may be a hell hole, and disease ridden, and have dead bodies in our rivers, but we have the wine.
So like Werribee, but with wine?

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:41 am
by BlackMac
Jeff the Bear wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:39 am Genuine question, but is Melbourne any good to visit (post Covid)? The missus has a friend living there who can put us up, and we're thinking it will be the first place we ravel once everyone has been dosed up with a cure.

Is there enough to do for an entire week...two weeks?
Yes and yes.

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:29 am
by Ellafan
BlackMac wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:41 am
Jeff the Bear wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:39 am Genuine question, but is Melbourne any good to visit (post Covid)? The missus has a friend living there who can put us up, and we're thinking it will be the first place we ravel once everyone has been dosed up with a cure.

Is there enough to do for an entire week...two weeks?
Yes and yes.
Being a foreigner like BlackMac, I agree. You can spend a week eating out at good non-overpriced places in Chapel St and wandering here and there to the galleries/sites etc, and still need another week or more to range out a bit.

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:38 pm
by Slim 293
Melbourne tourist destinations to avoid...

- Chapel Street (the Windsor end isn't as bad)
- Italian food along the Carlton end of Lygon Street
- Those al fresco dining cafes on Degraves St

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:30 pm
by Ogre
Clogs wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:41 am
Sensible Stephen wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:01 am
Clogs wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:55 am
Jeff the Bear wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:39 am Genuine question, but is Melbourne any good to visit (post Covid)? The missus has a friend living there who can put us up, and we're thinking it will be the first place we ravel once everyone has been dosed up with a cure.

Is there enough to do for an entire week...two weeks?
There is a fair bit to do. A week would do it. A few days shopping, dining etc and a few days down the great ocean road or wilsons prom. Then spend the other week travelling up the coast via Sydney to visit the reef.

Fvck Adelaide. Don't go there. Disease ridden hell hole.
We may be a hell hole, and disease ridden, and have dead bodies in our rivers, but we have the wine.
So like Werribee, but with wine?
there is definately wine in werribee, it flows from the wine skins like rain for the critters that can buy it from one of the many liqour outlets. also there are no rivers, just a turd brown creek that dissolves corpses.

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:29 am
by Farva
Ogre wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:30 pm there are no rivers, just a turd brown creek that dissolves corpses.
Again much like Adelaide.

Re: Melbourne. UnFvcked. Almost

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:56 am
by Farva
Ellafan wrote: Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:30 am They need to fix this:
SA Police will launch an investigation into the lie by a Woodville pizza bar worker that sparked SA's lockdown, which will now lift at midnight on Saturday. There are three new cases today, all in quarantine.
...
However, the man will escape penalty because there is no available penalty for lying to contact tracers.
The above is a reference to criminal penalty, so that does not exclude other legal action, but query he has assets sufficient to make it worthwhile.
I’m a little surprised that the language used has been so heavy.
This guy is now the most hated man in Adelaide (even more than the bodies in a barrel guy). That’s all down to the language used. And he hasn’t had a trial yet.
In my experience, the contact tracers in Australia are scatter gun. The questions are all over the place. It’s entirely feasible that they asked him whether he went there for a pizza and that is what he answered or whether he was actively trying to hide his employment (as it contravened his visa perhaps). Don’t forget Wnglish isn’t his first language and he would have been sick and stressed having just received a Covid diagnosis. That’s on top of the terrible questioning (there are multiple people, information they give is often contradictory, etc) the contact tracers gave.

If he deliberately lied screw him. But I think there is a real chance that it’s not the full story. And for the premier to destroy someone’s reputation like that is pretty repugnant.

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:41 am
by Ali's Choice
I haven't checked in to this thread for a while. Is Clogs still venting daily about 'Dictator Dan'? And is he still demanding that the weak and elderly be sacrificed so that young, productive people can work and earn money?

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:47 am
by Clogs
Ali's Choice wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:41 am I haven't checked in to this thread for a while. Is Clogs still venting daily about 'Dictator Dan'? And is he still demanding that the weak and elderly be sacrificed so that young, productive people can work and earn money?

Penguin Random House gave you a few days off did they?

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:26 am
by MungoMan
Clogs wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 4:47 am
Ali's Choice wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:41 am I haven't checked in to this thread for a while. Is Clogs still venting daily about 'Dictator Dan'? And is he still demanding that the weak and elderly be sacrificed so that young, productive people can work and earn money?

Penguin Random House gave you a few days off did they?
If you have a moment of mature reflection, you might think about dotting that. It's lame to the nth and more than a bit embarrassing.

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:49 am
by Slim 293
One rule for SAS, another for Dan Andrews

If we want the truth from our military about how people were killed in Afghanistan, we must also demand it from our political leaders about why people died in Victoria, Peta Credlin writes.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:04 am
by Pat the Ex Mat
One for Clogs as I'm positive he's a fan:

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:nod: :lol: :lol:

Re: Melbourne. UnFvcked. Almost

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:13 am
by True Blue
Slim 293 wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:48 am The thread title needs a-changin’, because Covid in Melbourne is goooooooooooooooooooone...

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Meanwhile, 18,000 cases in Texas today. America, fudge yeah. :uhoh:

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:33 am
by kiwigreg369
Slim 293 wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:49 am
One rule for SAS, another for Dan Andrews

If we want the truth from our military about how people were killed in Afghanistan, we must also demand it from our political leaders about why people died in Victoria, Peta Credlin writes.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
i hope we see a mocked up chinese picture....

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:36 am
by Clogs
Pat the Ex Mat wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:04 am One for Clogs as I'm positive he's a fan:

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:nod: :lol: :lol:

:lol:

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 6:54 am
by Slim 293
Pat the Ex Mat wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:04 am One for Clogs as I'm positive he's a fan:

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:nod: :lol: :lol:

:lol: :thumbup:

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 7:14 am
by Ellafan
kiwigreg369 wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:33 am
Slim 293 wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:49 am
One rule for SAS, another for Dan Andrews

If we want the truth from our military about how people were killed in Afghanistan, we must also demand it from our political leaders about why people died in Victoria, Peta Credlin writes.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
i hope we see a mocked up chinese picture....
We don't need one KG. Everyone knows why the Vic government really "decided" to use contractors/subcontractors including front businesses for the likes of Mick Gatto.

Here is an extract from the statement to the enquiry of Lisa Neville (Vic Police Minister). National cabinet made the decision to use hotel quarantine at about 1200 midday - the fix was in within about 90 minutes.
"On 27 March 2020, I attended a meeting with Chief Commissioner Ashton and Commissioner Crisp to discuss pandemic issues. This was a regular daily meeting I had had with both of them most days since the pandemic had been underway in Victoria. The meeting had been scheduled before the announcements of hotel quarantine, and was not specifically concerned with the HQP. However, the proposal for the HQP was briefly discussed at the meeting, as well as other important existing issues.

My calendar shows that the meeting, using Microsoft Teams, was to start at 1:30pm, but I am now aware that it commenced closer to 2pm. I am aware that, as well as Commissioner Crisp, Chief Commissioner Ashton and myself, Corri McKenzie, Deputy Secretary, Police Fines and Crime Prevention, was present. Based on the invitations in my calendar, I believe that Kate Fitzgerald, Deputy Secretary of Emergency Management Victoria and David Griffith, my Chief of Staff, also attended.

By the time the meeting started, I already knew about the decision that DJPR was responsible for standing up the HQP, from the telephone call described in paragraph 20 above. To the best of my recollection, I believe that I first heard that private security would be used to guard returned travellers during the meeting.

The involvement of DJPR or use of private security were not raised for a decision in that meeting or for any particular input by me. I understood from the phone call I had already received, and the discussion at the meeting, that the broad structure of the HQP, including the use of private security and involvement of DJPR, had already been decided.
And the link is:

https://www.quarantineinquiry.vic.gov.au/exhibits

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:14 am
by towny
Jeff the Bear wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:39 am Genuine question, but is Melbourne any good to visit (post Covid)? The missus has a friend living there who can put us up, and we're thinking it will be the first place we ravel once everyone has been dosed up with a cure.

Is there enough to do for an entire week...two weeks?
Melbourne is pretty okay. That is, if you like food or looking at stuff. Mornington Penisula is okay if you like beaches and wineries and food. King Valley is good if you like wine and food and mountains. Melbourne gets a few sports events if you like that shit. Coffee is tolerable. People aren’t all plums.

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:15 am
by towny
Slim 293 wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 6:54 am
Pat the Ex Mat wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:04 am One for Clogs as I'm positive he's a fan:

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:nod: :lol: :lol:

:lol: :thumbup:
:lol:

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:35 pm
by kiap
Andrew Bolts? :arrow: 8)

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:03 pm
by Pat the Ex Mat
kiap wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:35 pm Andrew Bolts? :arrow: 8)
:D

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:32 am
by Clogs
Dan tells Sydney to go fvck itself. Hard border goes back up. Dan's approval rating in Victoria is now at 115.3%

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 4:39 am
by jdogscoop
Melbourne has it all. /post.

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 4:40 am
by jdogscoop
Pat the Ex Mat wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 11:03 pm
kiap wrote: Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:35 pm Andrew Bolts? :arrow: 8)
:D
Got 'im yes. :nod:

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 4:41 am
by jdogscoop
Clogs wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:32 am Dan tells Sydney to go fvck itself. Hard border goes back up. Dan's approval rating in Victoria is now at 115.3%
:lol:

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 4:42 am
by jdogscoop
Neighbours report Dan Andrews has been seen swigging from a bottle of Starward, pulling on one of Havana's finest and waltzing Catherine around his Melbourne living room.

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 4:47 am
by Clogs
jdogscoop wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 4:42 am Neighbours report Dan Andrews has been seen swigging from a bottle of Starward, pulling on one of Havana's finest and waltzing Catherine around his Melbourne living room.
He will be absolutely positively turgid round about now. Keep those dirty cvnts out of our pristine city. Please. While you are at it Dan, ban those dirty queenslanders too. Just cos you can. Please.

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:13 pm
by MungoMan
I just watched ABC news online, and here's the Vic Health Minister sporting a North Face jacket.

Wt actual f? Is North Face the official sponsor of the Vic Government?

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:27 pm
by Clogs
MungoMan wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:13 pm I just watched ABC news online, and here's the Vic Health Minister sporting a North Face jacket.

Wt actual f? Is North Face the official sponsor of the Vic Government?
It is the Labor party's unofficial position to support their Labor brethren in third world countries like Viet Nam and Bangladesh by buying products manufactured there.

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:58 am
by MungoMan
Clogs wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:27 pm
MungoMan wrote: Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:13 pm I just watched ABC news online, and here's the Vic Health Minister sporting a North Face jacket.

Wt actual f? Is North Face the official sponsor of the Vic Government?
It is the Labor party's unofficial position to support their Labor brethren in third world countries like Viet Nam and Bangladesh by buying products manufactured there.
Cultural marxism, as manifested in couture. By their brands shall ye know them.

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:57 am
by Ali's Choice
The Inquiry into Victroia's hotel quarantine process has released its report. Highly critical of the Commonwealth government's lack of a plan for quarantining overseas arrivals. Apparently the Victorian govt was given 36 hours notice to develop a Hotel Quarantine framework from scratch, with zero guidance or support provided from the federal govt.

Justice for Jenny Mikakos!

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:05 am
by Ellafan
In the Guardian just now:

Justice for Jenny Mikakos!

No-one made the decision to use private security - they just treated it as a fait accomplis that they should do what the CFMEU wanted:
The final report of Victoria’s hotel quarantine inquiry has been released in two volumes at over 500 pages.

The immediate takeaway from the initial reading is the board’s chair, former judge Jennifer Coate, does not find anyone in the ministry or the public service ultimately responsible for the decision to use private security in hotel quarantine.

Ultimately, the evidence did not identify that any one person decided to engage private security in the program. However, there were clearly people who influenced the position that was found to have been adopted at the [state control centre] SCC meeting on the afternoon of 27 March 2020.”

The report finds that the then-chief commissioner of police Graham Ashton did express a preference to use private security, and that ultimately that set off the chain of events for private security to be used.

It had been a source of focus of the inquiry due to several security guards in the two hotels that had outbreaks of Covid-19 being linked to those outbreaks.

The report finds there was no consideration on 27 March of the respective merits of using private security or police or Australian Defence Force personnel in the hotels.
The report says the public will likely be shocked there was no rationale given on the date for using private security, or approval by upper levels of government, including the ministry.

The people of Victoria should understand, with clarity, how it was that such a decision to spend millions of dollars of public money came about. The people should be able to be satisfied that the action to proceed in this way was a considered one that addressed the benefits, risks and options available in arriving at such a decision. There was no evidence that any such considered process occurred, either on 27 March 2020 or in the days and weeks that followed, until the outbreaks occurred.”

Coate found premier Daniel Andrews, and former health minister Jenny Mikakos played no part in the decision to use private security, and while police minister Lisa Neville was aware of the proposal, the report found she was not responsible.

The report said jobs minister Martin Pakula “appears not to have been told” until after private security was engaged.

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:08 am
by kiwigreg369
Ali's Choice wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:57 am The Inquiry into Victroia's hotel quarantine process has released its report. Highly critical of the Commonwealth government's lack of a plan for quarantining overseas arrivals. Apparently the Victorian govt was given 36 hours notice to develop a Hotel Quarantine framework from scratch, with zero guidance or support provided from the federal govt.
amongst other things...

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:22 am
by Ellafan
The people of Victoria should understand, with clarity, how it was that such a decision to spend millions of dollars of public money came about. The people should be able to be satisfied that the action to proceed in this way was a considered one that addressed the benefits, risks and options available in arriving at such a decision. There was no evidence that any such considered process occurred, either on 27 March 2020 or in the days and weeks that followed, until the outbreaks occurred.
This is a serious failure of governmental processes and oversight. Dan Andrews was not on top of this decision making process, nor had he considered any option other than sheepishly doing what the unions wanted.

If he is truly accountable, he should re-instate Mikalos, and fall on his sword.

Re: Melbourne. World's greatest city. FACT!

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:24 am
by Clogs
Ali's Choice wrote: Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:57 am The Inquiry into Victroia's hotel quarantine process has released its report. Highly critical of the Commonwealth government's lack of a plan for quarantining overseas arrivals. Apparently the Victorian govt was given 36 hours notice to develop a Hotel Quarantine framework from scratch, with zero guidance or support provided from the federal govt.
Just as you suspected, it was all Scomo's fault.