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Clogs wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:28 am
Ali's Choice wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:26 am
Clogs wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:14 am Victorians will be turned away at the state line if they arrive in queues after midnight and will not be allowed to enter hotel quarantine unless they have exceptional circumstances.
That sounds terrible, but that article is nearly two weeks old so I don't think it's accurate.
I have posted this one from the Age. Published yesterday. It is incredible if true.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/vict ... 56r57.html
Victorians will be turned away at the border if they arrive in queues after midnight and will not be allowed to enter hotel quarantine unless they had exceptional circumstances, Mr Weimar said.
That article has already proven to be false. The author tearfully lamenting that it would be easier to get home from London than it would from Sydney should have been a give away. You'll also not that the author made the deliberate decision to stay put in a 'red zone' and continue his holiday.
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Clogs wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:29 am
Ali's Choice wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:28 am Clogs, why are you spamming this thread with inaccurate, two week old articles?
Dumb post.
But you are. That ABC article, which you have both posted a link to and copy and pasted, was published on Dec 21st.
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Here is the full article. Again, if this is true it is mind boggling.
The clock is ticking for Victorians scrambling to get home from NSW before the border slams shut at 11.59pm on Friday.

Victorians will be turned away at the state line if they arrive in queues after midnight and will not be allowed to enter hotel quarantine unless they have exceptional circumstances.


The situation only applies to people travelling from regional NSW. Those who have been to Greater Sydney, Wollongong and the Blue Mountains are already barred from entering Victoria.

There was a steady stream of cars crossing the border throughout New Year's Day after a night of traffic jams as travellers cancelled their summer holidays to return home en masse.

Nathan Goring crossed the border at Albury at 2.30pm on Friday on his way to Mansfield after waiting about an hour to pass the police checkpoint. He said the situation wasn't too stressful, but noted the traffic had banked up quickly at busy periods.

"I wouldn't like to be there after 6pm tonight," he said. "It will be a shitfight."


Emma Morris, from Yarra Glen, crossed the border at Genoa on Friday morning, which meant that she and her husband, Wayne, avoided the massive bottlenecks on New Year's Eve.

However, their luck ran out when the police officer greeting them at the border noticed smoke coming from the wheel bearings of the boat trailer they were towing. After a couple of hours they were back on the road.

"In Bermagui [NSW] people were just packing up and getting out when they could.

"Our friends who left last night told us it took them six hours to get across, they were 30 kilometres from the border and slowly crawled.

"We were a little bit confused as to when the cut-off point was to come back without having to quarantine. It was just crazy because we were really only given seven hours' notice, that's why everyone panicked."

The border closure has even split up some Victorian families who chose to return at different times.

Rachelle Connor from Surrey Hills drove back to Victoria from regional NSW with her three sons on New Year's Eve after the announcement that the border would be closing.

However her husband, Peter, and daughter, Genevieve, stayed behind as they had been in Sydney on December 19, which meant they were not able to get a permit to come home.

They now face an uncertain wait for the border to reopen, even though they had been in areas previously considered a green zone.

"We're thinking potentially weeks [until they can return]," she said.

"Making things worse was the confusion of how the closure was announced, with DHHS struggling to deal with phone calls asking for clarification.

'Five kilometres in two hours': Stuck in the convoy racing to cross the Victoria-NSW border
"We thought if they elected to go into hotel quarantine that they could come back," she said.

"I guess its just the unknown, feeling like you can't trust the information you're getting. You stick to the rules then they slap this thing at you."

The announcement of the border closure on Thursday afternoon prompted thousands of Victorians on summer trips to NSW to flood home, causing bottlenecks at checkpoints that had been set up across the border. Travellers reported being stuck for hours trying to cross.

Police officers resorted to waving cars with Victorian number plates through border checkpoints to alleviate the traffic crush.

Deputy Police Commissioner Rick Nugent said public health authorities deemed it the safest method to deal with the dangers of leaving children and elderly people waiting in cars for hours.

"When it’s really clear it's a holidaymaker, Victorian plates, a whole family, the risk is low," he said.

He said every car with NSW or non-Victorian license plates was checked.

By lunchtime on Friday, Victorian police said the average wait time at border crossings was 15 minutes.

Readers who wrote to The Age and Sydney Morning Herald overnight said they moved at snail's pace as cars rushed to the border en masse, sometimes on single-lane highways.

Social media posts from holidaymakers returning to Victoria reported delays of up to six hours.

Mark Bernhard wrote: "Took six hours last night, from joining the queue at 10pm to get through crossing at Genoa. Absolute debacle, but police doing an exceptional job. Who signed off on the logistics and have they learned any lessons? Do they care about the inconvenience and ruined holidays with hours' notice?"

Andrew Grange said he "joined the traffic on the Cobb highway three kilometres from the Echuca bridge and moved 100 metres in an hour. A number of people are out [of their cars] walking their dogs."

Chelsea Dabner said "a friend of mine is 20 kilometres from Genoa border and the line is not moving. They are trying to get across by midnight."

Victoria's testing chief, Jeroen Weimar, said anyone waiting in line at 11.59pm on Friday evening would be allowed to pass through.

"If you're in NSW and you want to be back in Victoria you need to leave now," he said.

"Please prepare for a lengthy wait at the border so make sure you have fuel, water, food and whatever you need to isolate safely when you get home."

Victorians will be turned away at the border if they arrive in queues after midnight and will not be allowed to enter hotel quarantine unless they had exceptional circumstances, Mr Weimar said.

"We need to close the border because we do not wish to continue to import high-risk COVID cases back into Victoria … We do not think that would be right or fair for the Victorian community," Mr Weimar said.

"[This] is a very challenging thing to do and we do not ask it lightly."


"Let's be very clear – we do not have capacity to put hundreds of people into hotel quarantine because they elected to come home late.

"If you’re going to come home, come home today. If you’re not, that’s fine, but we’re not planning to provide alternative accommodation for you.


"If there are people who’ve gone to NSW, we did not design and set up a hotel quarantine system to enable people who’ve gone on holidays in NSW to come back a bit later."

“We’re not running a hotel quarantine scheme for convenience. We’ve been very clear for a number of weeks now around the risks of travelling to NSW,” Mr Weimar said.

On December 21, announcing the border closure to people from NSW hotspots, Premier Daniel Andrews said "as a returning Victorian [if] you arrive after midnight Monday then you will go into mandatory hotel quarantine".

There are about 70 people in Victorian quarantine hotels who had returned from NSW and, for differing reasons, could not quarantine in their Victorian homes or find accommodation in NSW.

One returning traveller, Jessica, said the border controls were not what her friends expected after they drove back from NSW without being questioned about movements, having carefully avoided hotspots.

"How is this going to stop people who won't tell the truth about where they have been? Another friend wasn’t even stopped, just waved through at the border."

The border troubles caused an influx of calls to the Victorian Health Department's hotline. The department said in a tweet late on Thursday that it understood the situation was stressful and directed people to a website.


Anyone who enters Victoria from NSW must now get tested and isolate for two weeks at their home.

Health Minister Martin Foley warned on Thursday morning, before the government announced the "hard" border closure, that Victorians currently in NSW needed to return immediately if they wanted to be able to return home.

The announcement came after eight cases were recorded in Victoria in two days and as 10 cases were recorded in NSW on Thursday.


The Victorian outbreak is likely to have been set in motion by Victorian who had returned from NSW and dined at a Thai restaurant with others on December 21.

"You do not want to be caught on the wrong side of a rapidly evolving situation," Mr Foley said.

"This is a very serious situation. Victorians who have sacrificed so much are not going to go back to a situation where we faced what we did in the past winter.”

Rules will soon be announced by the state government to allow travel across the border by residents of border communities and arrangements for freight will remain in place.

Albury councillor Murray King told Nine News on Thursday he hoped "both the Acting Premier of Victoria and the Premier of NSW realise the impact these decisions have on local people and the way they do business."
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Ali's Choice wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:31 am
Clogs wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:29 am
Ali's Choice wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:28 am Clogs, why are you spamming this thread with inaccurate, two week old articles?
Dumb post.
But you are. That ABC article, which you have both posted a link to and copy and pasted, was published on Dec 21st.
Yes. If you can read they are spelling out exactly the opposite of what you have claimed. In fact I quoted verbatim from Jeroen Weimar.

"In terms of people arriving after midnight Monday, the very strong message is anyone, Victorian or otherwise, coming in from the Greater Sydney area or Central Coast area will not be able to enter the state," he said.
"We are not offering mandatory hotel quarantine as an option.

Some people have already been blocked from entering Victoria. Not just from yesterday.It has been going on for some time now. Hence the article. Which is contrary to your claim that it is not happening.
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And for the avoidance of doubt, here is the report from the ABC.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-31/ ... a/13024468

Posted 1dday ago, updated Yesterday at 2:23pm
Victoria
Victoria will close its border with New South Wales from 11:59pm on Friday, January 1.

Those who arrive in the 24 hours before the border closure will still need to take a COVID-19 test.

Victorians who arrive back from NSW after the deadline will be turned back at the border or need to go into hotel quarantine.

A police officer standing in front of a white four-wheel-drive with cars lined up behind it
Victoria's border is already closed to the northern beaches, Greater Sydney and NSW Central Coast regions.(ABC News: Michael Clements)
"If you attempt to cross the border after midnight tonight, you will be turned back by our VicPol colleagues at the border," Mr Weimar said.

He said there may be exemptions in "extreme situations" or for people who have nowhere else to go, but stressed going into hotel quarantine "was not a ready option".

Those from the Blue Mountains and Wollongong areas will be barred from entering Victoria from midnight on January 1.

People travelling from those areas before then must apply for a new permit, be tested within 24 hours of arriving in Victoria and self-quarantine at home for 14 days from when they left the NSW regions.

Victoria's border is already effectively closed to the northern beaches, Greater Sydney and NSW Central Coast regions.
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Clogs, here is an article about NSW residents who arrived in Victoria, who were told they would need to stay in HQ for 14 days. Are you suggesting that NSW residents can enter Victoria, but Victorian residents are banned?

https://www.theage.com.au/national/coro ... 56r9v.html
NSW residents who fled police at Melbourne Airport to be fined
By Ashleigh McMillan
A pair of NSW residents who fled officers at Melbourne Airport after flying in from Canberra on Friday morning have now returned to NSW but will be fined at least $19,000.

Police said the 26-year-old man and 24-year-old woman got off the flight just before 11am on Friday.

Authorised officers spoke to the pair, and told them they would be required to quarantine in Victoria for 14 days, based on the current Chief Health Officer's directions.

"The pair then ran from the officer, fleeing the airport and were picked up by a vehicle outside," a Victoria Police spokeswoman said.

Health Minister Martin Foley said he believed the pair had now returned to NSW.

“Upon the advice of the public health team, those people have breached numerous orders of the public health state of emergency in Victoria and they will each be fined at least $19,000 for their breaching of those arrangements,” he said.

“This is a very serious matter.”
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Anyway, Clogs you have opposed every action that the Andrews government has ever taken to reduce the spread of COVID-19, so it's no surprise you're complaining now. You are nothing if not consistent. You will complain about ever action the govt takes, and then complain about every new case. How long until you start tearfully demanding that the elderly be sacrificed for the greater good of young Victorians?
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Ali's Choice wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:49 am Anyway, Clogs you have opposed every action that the Andrews government has ever taken to reduce the spread of COVID-19, so it's no surprise you're complaining now. You are nothing if not consistent. You will complain about ever action the govt takes, and then complain about every new case. How long until you start tearfully demanding that the elderly be sacrificed for the greater good of young Victorians?
I have said it before and I will say it again. Dan Andrews (insert any Labor politician) could strip down naked in the middle of the field of the MCG on Grand Final day, cover himself in lube and proceed to fvck a chicken and you would blame the chicken.
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Clogs wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 1:05 am
Ali's Choice wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:49 am Anyway, Clogs you have opposed every action that the Andrews government has ever taken to reduce the spread of COVID-19, so it's no surprise you're complaining now. You are nothing if not consistent. You will complain about ever action the govt takes, and then complain about every new case. How long until you start tearfully demanding that the elderly be sacrificed for the greater good of young Victorians?
I have said it before and I will say it again. Dan Andrews (insert any Labor politician) could strip down naked in the middle of the field of the MCG on Grand Final day, cover himself in lube and proceed to fvck a chicken and you would blame the chicken.
What a strange comment.
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Ali's Choice wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:10 am
Clogs wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:28 pm They are not allowed to return to where they live. No alternative arrangements.

Firstly, that's not happening at all.
There was an op-ed in The Age yesterday that alluded to that, but the journalist who wrote it was confused. No doubt it's a stressful time for everyone and that caused the confusion.
This from the ABC.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-01/ ... e/13024514
Some Victorians unsure when they will be allowed to return

Melbourne doctor Christine and her mum Louise Phillips have been in Albury for the past 11 days waiting to get home.

"At this point we don't know how we are going to ever get home, how we'll get a permit to get across the border because they just haven't explained for people in our situation," Ms Phillips said.

Christine travelled to Sydney for a three-day break in mid-December, but a dinner booking at a Manly restaurant meant she had visited Sydney's northern beaches when COVID cases emerged in that part of the city.

She had to spend 14 days outside of the northern beaches "hot zone" to return to Victoria.

Ms Phillips said her daughter spent three days self-isolating with a friend in another part of Sydney before all of the city was designated a "red zone" by Victoria.

She said when Sydney was designated a red zone it meant her daughter needed to spend 14 days in another part of NSW before she could get a permit to travel back to Victoria.

I am more than happy for you to revise your first point.

This clvsterfvck of a situation will be have to be changed. DHHS have royally fvcked up here. It won't surprise me to see them backtrack fairly quickly.

I will be stunned if this 'decree' remains in effect for too much longer. Jeroen we are looking at you!


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-01/ ... e/13024514
Ms Allan said Victorian travellers in NSW who arrived back in their home state on Thursday would be required to have a COVID test and isolate at home until they had their results back.

Victorians who make it home on Friday will need to isolate in their homes for 14 days, while Ms Allan said any Victorians returning from January 2 would be required to go through hotel quarantine for 14 days.

But DHHS's coronavirus response commander Jeroen Weimar said anyone arriving after the 11:59pm deadline on Friday would be turned back at the border.

"We did not design the hotel quarantine system, to enable people who went on holiday in NSW to come back a bit later," he said.
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Clogs, it's obviously not quite as bad as you are making out given that people who are arriving by plane are being ushered into HQ. It's clearly much harder to do that for car arrivals given the quarantine sites are all in Melbourne, hundreds of km's from the border/

What is your suggested alternative, leave the borders open indefinitely? You were screaming from Dan Andrews to close off Victoria just a few days ago.
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Ali's Choice wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 5:15 am Clogs, it's obviously not quite as bad as you are making out given that people who are arriving by plane are being ushered into HQ. It's clearly much harder to do that for car arrivals given the quarantine sites are all in Melbourne, hundreds of km's from the border/

What is your suggested alternative, leave the borders open indefinitely? You were screaming from Dan Andrews to close off Victoria just a few days ago.
So you have shifted your position from it not happening at all and basically calling me a liar, to now conceding I got it right and you were completely wrong? :nod:
















Aaand pisstaking aside (please ignore the gentle ribbing above - you really don't need to respond).





A serious answer to your question is, I would have thought it quite reasonable to allow Victorians to return home provided they self isolate for a certain period of time and/or are required to get a test?

I don't think too many would have an issue with that. But actually locking people out of their own state where they cannot get home? C'mon man, even for you that must seem unreasonable?

These Victorians have not broken any law yet they are being denied entry into their own state by the very public servants whose wage they pay. Surely the state government and its agencies should be doing everything they can to safely repatriate (and then safely support them to isolate) their tax paying citizens? Just refusing entry at Genoa because you were in NSW seems like a gross over reaction.
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Clogs wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 5:50 am A serious answer to your question is, I would have thought it quite reasonable to allow Victorians to return home provided they self isolate for a certain period of time and/or are required to get a test?

I don't think too many would have an issue with that. But actually locking people out of their own state where they cannot get home? C'mon man, even for you that must seem unreasonable?

These Victorians have not broken any law yet they are being denied entry into their own state by the very public servants whose wage they pay. Surely the state government and its agencies should be doing everything they can to safely repatriate (and then safely support them to isolate) their tax paying citizens? Just refusing entry at Genoa because you were in NSW seems like a gross over reaction.
I do think that seems unreasonable. I'm fair and balanced, and as always I am very happy to call out an ALP govt when I believe they have acted inappropriately.

One caveat though is that I am not privy to the information and data that Vic Health is, and I'm not sure that allowing Victorians in NSW hotspots to quarantine in the comfort of their own homes would have been much of an incentive for them to leave NSW.
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Ali's Choice wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 6:15 am
Clogs wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 5:50 am A serious answer to your question is, I would have thought it quite reasonable to allow Victorians to return home provided they self isolate for a certain period of time and/or are required to get a test?

I don't think too many would have an issue with that. But actually locking people out of their own state where they cannot get home? C'mon man, even for you that must seem unreasonable?

These Victorians have not broken any law yet they are being denied entry into their own state by the very public servants whose wage they pay. Surely the state government and its agencies should be doing everything they can to safely repatriate (and then safely support them to isolate) their tax paying citizens? Just refusing entry at Genoa because you were in NSW seems like a gross over reaction.
I do think that seems unreasonable.
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Whilst it is clear that returning Victorians who arrive by plane are being placed in HQ, it appears that those who return by car may not be as lucky. And may in fact be turned around at the border. Where are they meant to go? What are they meant to do? It costs $150-$200 per night for a family to stay at even the most modest motel, and food is on top of that. Are these excluded Victorians meant to stay in motels indefinitely? What if they cannot afford a motel? Do they sleep rough? Or offer handjobs to passing motorists so they can afford their motel accommodation?
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What seems to be even more remarkable, is that these poor returnees will have to remain in NSW (which is now a red zone) for 14 days before they are allowed back (now I may be wrong here and it may be they are not allowed to return indefinitely).

But if you think about it, if I have to remain in the red zone for 14 more days before I am allowed to go home surely that puts the state at more of a risk? More people remaining in the dirty state of NSW before being allowed back into Victoria is only more risky.



Dan would never have allowed this nonsense to happen. Bring back Dan!
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I thought they needed to apply for an exemption to come back. Once that is granted they are given a set crossover point and will then need to quarantine for 14 days in Vic.

It was supposed to take a day or two for the exemption to come through.

My guess this is done to manage how people come back.
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Farva wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:32 am I thought they needed to apply for an exemption to come back. Once that is granted they are given a set crossover point and will then need to quarantine for 14 days in Vic.

It was supposed to take a day or two for the exemption to come through.

My guess this is done to manage how people come back.
According to a Vic government website, from just before midnight NYE, all travellers from NSW into Vic (folk living in designated Vic/NSW 'border bubble' towns aside) need a 'letter of exemption'.

Going by something I saw in the general media rather than a Vic government website, I suspect a letter of exemption might be available to Vic returnees unable to stay in NSW because no money / no NSW relos or mates; in which case I'm guessing it will be hotel quarantine.
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Farva wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 8:32 am I thought they needed to apply for an exemption to come back. Once that is granted they are given a set crossover point and will then need to quarantine for 14 days in Vic.

It was supposed to take a day or two for the exemption to come through.

My guess this is done to manage how people come back.
You are right, just watched a replay of the Victorian Health Minister and Acting Victorian CMO press conference today. Returning Victorians simply need to apply for an exemption and they need to do this prior to arriving into the state by car or air. So there shouldn't need to be an families sleeping in cars or housewives forced to give hand-jobs to pay motel bills.
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Welcome to Victoria.
Exemptions
If I am a returning Victorian and miss the deadline what steps can I take to re-enter Victoria?
Exemptions are rare and will only be granted for limited reasons. If you believe you require an exemption and are a Victorian returning from NSW and unable to make it across the border prior to the border closure at 11:59pm on 1 January please adhere to the following advice:

Stay in place
If you don’t travel home before the border closes, but want to come home do not go to the border or commence travel. You should find a place to self-isolate where possible, leave only when necessary and consider wearing a face mask. You will need an exemption to return to Victoria.

Prepare for returning
Prepare proof of documents of your residence in Victoria and, if this applies to you, any urgent or compassionate reason to travel home. This documentation will be used when assessing your eligibility when considering granting an exemption to return to Victoria.

Applying for an exemption by calling the coronavirus hotline on 1800 675 398
When applying for an exemption you will be asked about your travel in NSW, how you’re feeling, your need for travel and urgency. Follow the instructions - send proof of your Victorian residence and reason for travel quickly. There are only limited reasons to be granted an exemption.

Re-entering Victoria
There are four designated Victoria Police checkpoints for visitors returning with an approved letter of exemption;

Mildura - Sturt Hwy A20
Echuca - Northern Hwy B75
Wodonga - Hume Fwy High Street (Split into sites A & B)
Genoa - Princes Hwy at Mallacoota turnoff
Isolation requirements
As part of the exemption process you will be advised if you are required to enter mandatory hotel quarantine or can quarantine at home.

Follow the instructions
Exemptions are being triaged based on urgency, compassion and need. Each application is granted at the discretion of the Chief Health Officer or delegate after the careful consideration of the public health risk and the requirements under the Public Health And Wellbeing Act. Exemptions are very rare and will only be granted in very limited circumstances due to the serious nature of the public health risk posed by COVID-19.

Your travel and return to Victoria will be subject to strict conditions - be ready to:

travel directly to Victoria wearing a face mask
isolate from when you arrive in Victoria; and
get a COVID-19 test
Additional restrictions may be applied by the Chief Health Officer depending on your circumstances.

Please think about what food and other provisions that you might need (including things like nappies, cleaning products and toys) and look to get them delivered via online shopping or a phone service. If you can’t, your networks and community might be able to help. Emergency support is also available for those who need it.
Or read:

I'm a Victorian stuck on the wrong side of the border. Can I get home?
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Posted 3hours ago, updated 3 hours ago

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-02/ ... e/13027520

Mr Weimar today warned people not to start the journey to the border unless they had been given an exemption to make the crossing.

"Do not come to the border. Do not get on a plane and come to the airport because you will be turned back and you won't be able to apply for an exemption at the border or at the airport," he says.

Every exemption will be reviewed by the Chief Health Officer or their delegate and it may take 24-48 hours before you hear back.

Can't I just cross the border and go into hotel quarantine?
No, you can't.
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Yeah that’s shite
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The “border”.....:

The balkanisation of Australia is something to witness.
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bimboman wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:36 am The “border”.....:

The balkanisation of Australia is something to witness.
Would you please just go away.
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Ellafan wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:46 am
bimboman wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:36 am The “border”.....:

The balkanisation of Australia is something to witness.
Would you please just go away.


No where has the collective madness of the covid fear been more apparent than Australia.....

I’ll occasionally comment on that hilarity.
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Ellafan wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:46 am
bimboman wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:36 am The “border”.....:

The balkanisation of Australia is something to witness.
Would you please just go away.
At last, something that can unite us all. Telling Bimboman to bugger off
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bimboman wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:52 am
Ellafan wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:46 am
bimboman wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:36 am The “border”.....:

The balkanisation of Australia is something to witness.
Would you please just go away.


No where has the collective madness of the covid fear been more apparent than Australia.....

I’ll occasionally comment on that hilarity.
Maybe NZ, who have an even smaller per capita infection rate. Strange that.
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bimboman wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:36 am The “border”.....:

The balkanisation of Australia is something to witness.
Nothing new here. Border posts used to check vehicles coming into and out of Queensland for fruit when I were but a lad. And not, neither a fib nor a metaphor.
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Ali's Choice wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 1:09 am
Clogs wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 1:05 am
Ali's Choice wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:49 am Anyway, Clogs you have opposed every action that the Andrews government has ever taken to reduce the spread of COVID-19, so it's no surprise you're complaining now. You are nothing if not consistent. You will complain about ever action the govt takes, and then complain about every new case. How long until you start tearfully demanding that the elderly be sacrificed for the greater good of young Victorians?
I have said it before and I will say it again. Dan Andrews (insert any Labor politician) could strip down naked in the middle of the field of the MCG on Grand Final day, cover himself in lube and proceed to fvck a chicken and you would blame the chicken.
What a strange comment.
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MungoMan wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:38 pm
bimboman wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:36 am The “border”.....:

The balkanisation of Australia is something to witness.
Nothing new here. Border posts used to check vehicles coming into and out of Queensland for fruit when I were but a lad. And not, neither a fib nor a metaphor.

Keeping it in or out ?
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bimboman wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:46 pm
MungoMan wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:38 pm
bimboman wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:36 am The “border”.....:

The balkanisation of Australia is something to witness.
Nothing new here. Border posts used to check vehicles coming into and out of Queensland for fruit when I were but a lad. And not, neither a fib nor a metaphor.

Keeping it in or out ?
Keeping a type of fruit fly out. Fruit went into a bin and all animals were checked for ticks.
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MungoMan wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:50 pm
bimboman wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:46 pm
MungoMan wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:38 pm
bimboman wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:36 am The “border”.....:

The balkanisation of Australia is something to witness.
Nothing new here. Border posts used to check vehicles coming into and out of Queensland for fruit when I were but a lad. And not, neither a fib nor a metaphor.

Keeping it in or out ?
Keeping a type of fruit fly out. Fruit went into a bin and all animals were checked for ticks.


Well that makes perfect sense (as do your airport food rules), I’m less keen on arbitrary rules restricting humans.
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bimboman wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 1:00 pm
MungoMan wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:50 pm
bimboman wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:46 pm
MungoMan wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 12:38 pm
bimboman wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:36 am The “border”.....:

The balkanisation of Australia is something to witness.
Nothing new here. Border posts used to check vehicles coming into and out of Queensland for fruit when I were but a lad. And not, neither a fib nor a metaphor.

Keeping it in or out ?
Keeping a type of fruit fly out. Fruit went into a bin and all animals were checked for ticks.


Well that makes perfect sense (as do your airport food rules), I’m less keen on arbitrary rules restricting humans.
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Just shit treatment. Poorly planned and poorly executed.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-03/ ... 9/13027768
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Clogs wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 11:19 pm Just shit treatment. Poorly planned and poorly executed.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-03/ ... 9/13027768
Who would have thought that in the midst of a global pandemic people's holiday plans may be impacted?
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Ali's Choice wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 11:20 pm
Clogs wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 11:19 pm Just shit treatment. Poorly planned and poorly executed.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-03/ ... 9/13027768
Who would have thought that in the midst of a global pandemic people's holiday plans may be impacted?
Every Victorian I spoke with was concerned their holiday plans would be impacted. The concern was they would be forced to return early or prevented from travelling. No one had any inkling that they would be prevented from returning home and forced to give hand jobs at the border.
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Clogs wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 11:39 pm Every Victorian I spoke with was concerned their holiday plans would be impacted. The concern was they would be forced to return early or prevented from travelling. No one had any inkling that they would be prevented from returning home and forced to give hand jobs at the border.
No-one had an inkling that the border to NSW might close if there was a full-blown cluster in that state? I find that hard to believe.

As an aside, if you were the Victorian Premier how would you have arranged things, so as not to impact on people's holidays in any way? Keeping in mind that you and your fellow Victorians have suffered more than any state from COVID-19 so I presume your appetite for a 3rd wave would be minimal.
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Ali's Choice wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 11:45 pm
Clogs wrote: Sat Jan 02, 2021 11:39 pm Every Victorian I spoke with was concerned their holiday plans would be impacted. The concern was they would be forced to return early or prevented from travelling. No one had any inkling that they would be prevented from returning home and forced to give hand jobs at the border.
No-one had an inkling that the border to NSW might close if there was a full-blown cluster in that state? I find that hard to believe.

As an aside, if you were the Victorian Premier how would you have arranged things, so as not to impact on people's holidays in any way? Keeping in mind that you and your fellow Victorians have suffered more than any state from COVID-19 so I resume your appetite for a 3rd wave would be minimal.
Dumb post. Everyone was concerned the border would close. If it did close then that meant you would have to return home and isolate if you were in NSW at the time or you would not be able to travel to NSW at all. What we are seeing now is that you have to apply for the willy wonka golden ticket to be allowed back to your fvcking house. And that it takes days for this special exemption which is only given to you in exceptional circumstances.

It's not as if they had to make all of this up on the fly like they have. They have had months to prepare for this. People are being turned away from fvcking testing centres. FFS! :x

Sadly what I fear has happened is once we got to zero cases, instead of planing for what happens if there is another outbreak, there was champagne corks popping and a knees up self congratulating style party. Dan and his team have defeated the virus. Yay! Well done everyone. And then nothing.


There is no way anyone can claim that this has been a well thought out and executed plan. A decent management team would have planned for this contingency. Operation Fvck NSW would have involved dramatically ramping up support staff so that people don't wait days on the phone to get answers to questions. Providing support at the border so that people could apply for a permit right there at the border (and it shouldn't even be a fvcking permit - simply register you address and DHHS staff will support you and check to make sure you are isolating) Most Melburnians would be compliant with isolating because we do not want to endure another fvcking lockdown. And ramp the fvck up of the testing centres. Rapid response testing. Build that capability up on steroids. But no. Sorry we are full you will have to come back for testing in a week or two.

Rant over.
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It might be harsh, but after two weeks of being strongly advised not to undertake non-essential travel into NSW, and that the border situation might change at short notice... and I’m using the exact terms outlined by DHHS here...
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Clogs,

Nice rant, but how would you have managed things if you were in charge? People that are still in NSW have for whatever reason made the choice to stay there. Are you suggesting that people should be allowed to finish their holidays in NSW when it suits them, and then return home at their leisure? Because that sounds like a recipe for a 3rd wave.
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