Re: Melbourne. Fvcked again. And again. And again.
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:54 am
I am in your head rent free.
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Everyone involved in these riots is a domestic terrorist, regardless of their profession or affiliation.
The Age wrote:
The CFMEU says the majority of the protesters are not union members and the crowds include far-right extremists.
Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:55 amEveryone involved in these riots is a domestic terrorist, regardless of their profession or affiliation.
The police will you safe. The same group you were attacking just a few hours ago by positing links to anti-Vic police articles and websites.Clogs wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:02 amAli's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:55 amEveryone involved in these riots is a domestic terrorist, regardless of their profession or affiliation.
Terrorists everywhere!!
But Dan will keep us safe?
Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:03 amThe police will you safe. The same group you were attacking just a few hours ago by positing links to anti-Vic police articles and websites.Clogs wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:02 amAli's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:55 amEveryone involved in these riots is a domestic terrorist, regardless of their profession or affiliation.
Terrorists everywhere!!
But Dan will keep us safe?
They aren't.Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:07 amNo, I don't believe they are. Neither are the Federal Government.
Well, our choice today was to support the Vic police, or a violent, angry mob of rioters that included proud neo Nazis and white supremacists. At this critical moment, you chose to post links attacking the Victorian Police as they risked their lives to keep the streets of Melbourne safe. The worst thing is, you seem proud of doing this. You think it makes you look clever.
Very deft attempted goal post shift there, AC But it failed. Along with the strawmanning. I am very proud of the ex ADF member who went down to the Shrine, wearing his medals (and/or his grandad's medals), and addressed the protestors and asked them to go and protest somewhere else. None of you soft lefties on this thread would have the guts to risk physical assault like that.Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:52 amFor someone who likes to claim to be pro ADF, you've been very quiet on these rioters congregating at the Shrine of Remembrance. It must be hard for you, because your views align almost entirely with the rioters? Like them you are anti-lockdown, anti-Labor, anti-Dan Andrews.Ellafan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:48 amNo he didn't you fibber. You tell me at precisely what time in his news conference he said that and I'll watch it again, on youtube, and come back with some specific time references where he said something quite different.Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:36 amThe Assistant Commissioner of Police was interviewed tonight. When asked of the make-up of the rioters, he said that only a very small portion of them were tradies, with the vast majority being individuals who have links to previous anti-lockdown and far-right groups. The fact that the CFMEU headquarters was targeted by these rioters suggests that these were not tradies. Having watched trade union protests over many years, I've never seen them attack and destroy their own buildings.
How should the react? They should get vaccinated of course.Clogs wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:10 amThey aren't.Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:07 amNo, I don't believe they are. Neither are the Federal Government.
So how do you think the members would react when told vaccines are mandatory for their industry?
Have you read Ben Schneider's lengthy analysis that went up on their site last night?
Probably like other industries that have been told they are mandatory like the airline industry but I dont see them flying planes into buildings.Clogs wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:10 amThey aren't.Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:07 amNo, I don't believe they are. Neither are the Federal Government.
So how do you think the members would react when told vaccines are mandatory for their industry?
Says the poster with the softest hands on this entire forum. You've worn a suit to work your entire life and the closest you've ever gotten to the 'bush' is a weekend away camping on the Hawkesbury River. Please don't pretend you're tough.Ellafan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:12 am Very deft attempted goal post shift there, AC But it failed. Along with the strawmanning. I am very proud of the ex ADF member who went down to the Shrine, wearing his medals (and/or his grandad's medals), and addressed the protestors and asked them to go and protest somewhere else. None of you soft lefties on this thread would have the guts to risk physical assault like that.
Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:12 amWell, our choice today was to support the Vic police, or a violent, angry mob of rioters that included proud neo Nazis and white supremacists. At this critical moment, you chose to post links attacking the Victorian Police as they risked their lives to keep the streets of Melbourne safe. The worst thing is, you seem proud of doing this. You think it makes you look clever.
Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:17 amSays the poster with the softest hands on this entire forum. You've worn a suit to work your entire life and the closest you've ever gotten to the 'bush' is a weekend away camping on the Hawkesbury River. Please don't pretend you're tough.Ellafan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:12 am Very deft attempted goal post shift there, AC But it failed. Along with the strawmanning. I am very proud of the ex ADF member who went down to the Shrine, wearing his medals (and/or his grandad's medals), and addressed the protestors and asked them to go and protest somewhere else. None of you soft lefties on this thread would have the guts to risk physical assault like that.
Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:14 amHow should the react? They should get vaccinated of course.Clogs wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:10 amThey aren't.Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:07 amNo, I don't believe they are. Neither are the Federal Government.
So how do you think the members would react when told vaccines are mandatory for their industry?
Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:49 amYou're a joke of a poster. You're now Australia's very own Mick Mannock. A proud conspiracy theorist. If your anti-lockdown, anti-police rhetoric wasn't so dangerous it would be funny. There has been almost unlimited evidence that shows that these rioters are largely the same crew who have been attending ant-lockdown protests for months.Clogs wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:44 amIt is remarkable that after the tradies lunch rooms were shut down, and they went on disruptive snap strikes in the streets of Melbourne to then it being announced that it was mandatory for tradies to get a jab in order to work, and they then reacted to that too, to then having all their work shut down 2 weeks, that suddenly the secretive right wing nazis have popped up out of the woodwork in solidarity with their left wing Labor supporting brethren.Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:36 amThe Assistant Commissioner of Police was interviewed tonight. When asked of the make-up of the rioters, he said that only a very small portion of them were tradies, with the vast majority being individuals who have links to previous anti-lockdown and far-right groups. The fact that the CFMEU headquarters was targeted by these rioters suggests that these were not tradies. Having watched trade union protests over many years, I've never seen them attack and destroy their own buildings.
Incredible that you are trying to sell this horse shit.
You need to re read some of the shit you are posting.
It didn't work the first time, so you predictably crank it up and go again. You really need to pay the extra $47 to get trolling for dummies 102, and get some new ideas.Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:17 amSays the poster with the softest hands on this entire forum. You've worn a suit to work your entire life and the closest you've ever gotten to the 'bush' is a weekend away camping on the Hawkesbury River. Please don't pretend you're tough.Ellafan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:12 am Very deft attempted goal post shift there, AC But it failed. Along with the strawmanning. I am very proud of the ex ADF member who went down to the Shrine, wearing his medals (and/or his grandad's medals), and addressed the protestors and asked them to go and protest somewhere else. None of you soft lefties on this thread would have the guts to risk physical assault like that.
Jeez Clogs, if you don't think that is terrifying, your standards have hit the floor mate.Clogs wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:20 amAli's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:53 amThese are domestic terrorists mate. And they are rioters, not protesters.Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:49 amSure they’re hardly any better calling a terrorism expert to comment on protestorsAli's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:44 am Terrorism expert on ABC right now, explaining how the constant references to 'Dictator Dan' by sections of the Murdoch media has fuelled the anger and sentiment that has led to the protests in Melbourne over the past three days.
As AC wants you to believe. This is what a Melbourne terrorist looks like.
Clogs wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:44 amAli's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:49 amYou're a joke of a poster. You're now Australia's very own Mick Mannock. A proud conspiracy theorist. If your anti-lockdown, anti-police rhetoric wasn't so dangerous it would be funny. There has been almost unlimited evidence that shows that these rioters are largely the same crew who have been attending ant-lockdown protests for months.Clogs wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:44 amIt is remarkable that after the tradies lunch rooms were shut down, and they went on disruptive snap strikes in the streets of Melbourne to then it being announced that it was mandatory for tradies to get a jab in order to work, and they then reacted to that too, to then having all their work shut down 2 weeks, that suddenly the secretive right wing nazis have popped up out of the woodwork in solidarity with their left wing Labor supporting brethren.Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:36 amThe Assistant Commissioner of Police was interviewed tonight. When asked of the make-up of the rioters, he said that only a very small portion of them were tradies, with the vast majority being individuals who have links to previous anti-lockdown and far-right groups. The fact that the CFMEU headquarters was targeted by these rioters suggests that these were not tradies. Having watched trade union protests over many years, I've never seen them attack and destroy their own buildings.
Incredible that you are trying to sell this horse shit.
You need to re read some of the shit you are posting.
I am the conspiracy theorist? You are the one desperately peddling there were no left wing militant union members protesting against mandatory vaccinations and/or if they were union Members then the CFMEU has been infiltrated by right win nazi domestic terrorists.
Unbefvckinglievable. I have caught many many fish in my time, but I have never seen as much slippery flip flopping and contorting and twisting as I have these last few days in this thread.
You fvcking Marxists don't know what to say or when or how anymore. Covid has utterly brain fvcked you into dazed crazed utterly out of touch stage of just utter fvcking garbage claims. Domestic fvcking terrorists instead of CFMEU members protesting mandatory vaccination and construction shut downs?
FFS you are emarassing yourselves.
The Age wrote:
The CFMEU says the majority of the protesters are not union members and the crowds include far-right extremists.
I find her claims to be highly dubious.Ted. wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:15 pmJeez Clogs, if you don't think that is terrifying, your standards have hit the floor mate.Clogs wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:20 amAli's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:53 amThese are domestic terrorists mate. And they are rioters, not protesters.Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:49 amSure they’re hardly any better calling a terrorism expert to comment on protestorsAli's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:44 am Terrorism expert on ABC right now, explaining how the constant references to 'Dictator Dan' by sections of the Murdoch media has fuelled the anger and sentiment that has led to the protests in Melbourne over the past three days.
As AC wants you to believe. This is what a Melbourne terrorist looks like.
So, tell me Jdog, did you go down to the Shrine today and address the scum who defiled it and tell them to go and protest somewhere else?jdogscoop wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:18 amAli's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:17 amSays the poster with the softest hands on this entire forum. You've worn a suit to work your entire life and the closest you've ever gotten to the 'bush' is a weekend away camping on the Hawkesbury River. Please don't pretend you're tough.Ellafan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:12 am Very deft attempted goal post shift there, AC But it failed. Along with the strawmanning. I am very proud of the ex ADF member who went down to the Shrine, wearing his medals (and/or his grandad's medals), and addressed the protestors and asked them to go and protest somewhere else. None of you soft lefties on this thread would have the guts to risk physical assault like that.
What a strange question. Like most rational, law-abiding citizens I left demonstrator control during lockdown restrictions to the 400-plus professionals from Victoria Police.Ellafan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:31 pmSo, tell me Jdog, did you go down to the Shrine today and address the scum who defiled it and tell them to go and protest somewhere else?jdogscoop wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:18 amAli's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:17 amSays the poster with the softest hands on this entire forum. You've worn a suit to work your entire life and the closest you've ever gotten to the 'bush' is a weekend away camping on the Hawkesbury River. Please don't pretend you're tough.Ellafan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:12 am Very deft attempted goal post shift there, AC But it failed. Along with the strawmanning. I am very proud of the ex ADF member who went down to the Shrine, wearing his medals (and/or his grandad's medals), and addressed the protestors and asked them to go and protest somewhere else. None of you soft lefties on this thread would have the guts to risk physical assault like that.
So, you didn't want to risk physical assault then?jdogscoop wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:36 pmWhat a strange question. Like most rational, law-abiding citizens I left demonstrator control during lockdown restrictions to the 400-plus professionals from Victoria Police.Ellafan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:31 pmSo, tell me Jdog, did you go down to the Shrine today and address the scum who defiled it and tell them to go and protest somewhere else?jdogscoop wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:18 amAli's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:17 amSays the poster with the softest hands on this entire forum. You've worn a suit to work your entire life and the closest you've ever gotten to the 'bush' is a weekend away camping on the Hawkesbury River. Please don't pretend you're tough.Ellafan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:12 am Very deft attempted goal post shift there, AC But it failed. Along with the strawmanning. I am very proud of the ex ADF member who went down to the Shrine, wearing his medals (and/or his grandad's medals), and addressed the protestors and asked them to go and protest somewhere else. None of you soft lefties on this thread would have the guts to risk physical assault like that.
Convenient they suddenly care about this as they piss all over the freedoms and rights of the citizens of Melbourne. That is extremely disingenuous of the Victoria police.
But the initial rally appears to have since been hijacked by far-right extremists, allegedly including neo-Nazis and anti-vaccination groups, who have organised via Telegram, Facebook and WhatsApp. Comments circulating on social media channels, seen by the Guardian, are explicitly racist, antisemitic, and include conspiracy theorist tropes.
Previous days had been dominated by people dressed in high-vis clothing – ostensibly tradespeople – but they were in the minority at Wednesday’s protest.
“There weren’t as many tradies as we could see – the group seemed much more mixed in terms of their motivations,” the police deputy commissioner, Ross Guenther, said.
FFS Slim, you can't make an allegation about numbers today that has more plausibility now, than for previous days, and then just backdate it. I know you are quoting one journo from the Guardian, but the DC made it clear in answer to a question at the presser that while there was a mix, he would not commit to one or other group being in the majority pending further enquiries.Slim 293 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:02 pm I’m not sure why it’s being disputed when it was clearly on display for all to see, but…
But the initial rally appears to have since been hijacked by far-right extremists, allegedly including neo-Nazis and anti-vaccination groups, who have organised via Telegram, Facebook and WhatsApp. Comments circulating on social media channels, seen by the Guardian, are explicitly racist, antisemitic, and include conspiracy theorist tropes.
Previous days had been dominated by people dressed in high-vis clothing – ostensibly tradespeople – but they were in the minority at Wednesday’s protest.
“There weren’t as many tradies as we could see – the group seemed much more mixed in terms of their motivations,” the police deputy commissioner, Ross Guenther, said.
That’s some impressive projection right there.Clogs wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:44 amAli's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:49 amYou're a joke of a poster. You're now Australia's very own Mick Mannock. A proud conspiracy theorist. If your anti-lockdown, anti-police rhetoric wasn't so dangerous it would be funny. There has been almost unlimited evidence that shows that these rioters are largely the same crew who have been attending ant-lockdown protests for months.Clogs wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:44 amIt is remarkable that after the tradies lunch rooms were shut down, and they went on disruptive snap strikes in the streets of Melbourne to then it being announced that it was mandatory for tradies to get a jab in order to work, and they then reacted to that too, to then having all their work shut down 2 weeks, that suddenly the secretive right wing nazis have popped up out of the woodwork in solidarity with their left wing Labor supporting brethren.Ali's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:36 amThe Assistant Commissioner of Police was interviewed tonight. When asked of the make-up of the rioters, he said that only a very small portion of them were tradies, with the vast majority being individuals who have links to previous anti-lockdown and far-right groups. The fact that the CFMEU headquarters was targeted by these rioters suggests that these were not tradies. Having watched trade union protests over many years, I've never seen them attack and destroy their own buildings.
Incredible that you are trying to sell this horse shit.
You need to re read some of the shit you are posting.
I am the conspiracy theorist? You are the one desperately peddling there were no left wing militant union members protesting against mandatory vaccinations and/or if they were union Members then the CFMEU has been infiltrated by right win nazi domestic terrorists.
Unbefvckinglievable. I have caught many many fish in my time, but I have never seen as much slippery flip flopping and contorting and twisting as I have these last few days in this thread.
You fvcking Marxists don't know what to say or when or how anymore. Covid has utterly brain fvcked you into dazed crazed utterly out of touch stage of just utter fvcking garbage claims. Domestic fvcking terrorists instead of CFMEU members protesting mandatory vaccination and construction shut downs?
FFS you are emarassing yourselves.
Fcuk you’re a dumb cnut.
'ken oath.Ted. wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:15 pmJeez Clogs, if you don't think that is terrifying, your standards have hit the floor mate.Clogs wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:20 amAli's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:53 amThese are domestic terrorists mate. And they are rioters, not protesters.Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:49 amSure they’re hardly any better calling a terrorism expert to comment on protestorsAli's Choice wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:44 am Terrorism expert on ABC right now, explaining how the constant references to 'Dictator Dan' by sections of the Murdoch media has fuelled the anger and sentiment that has led to the protests in Melbourne over the past three days.
As AC wants you to believe. This is what a Melbourne terrorist looks like.