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 Post subject: Re: Melbourne. Fvcked.
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Seven of eight. That could be a meme into the future. We nearly got there but for a hand job in the dunny of the Meridian.


Sorry, well have to take your first answer since it's now incorporated in my earlier reply.

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Seven of eight. That could be a meme into the future. We nearly got there.


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Seven of eight. That could be a meme into the future. We nearly got there.


That's 19 million people successfully protected. I wouldn't call that a laughing matter.

Victoria is now ringfenced from the rest of Australia and will surely bring it under control as well, eventually.
This bizarre state border concept means that the entire Australian populace in vulnerable now. I hope the numbers stabilise despite the shambles that is Australian federal and state government.

Good luck.


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Kiwis trolling Australia on covid, its really reached peak Kiwi in here.


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Seven of eight. That could be a meme into the future. We nearly got there but for a hand job in the dunny of the Meridian.


Sorry, well have to take your first answer since it's now incorporated in my earlier reply.

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Seven of eight. That could be a meme into the future. We nearly got there.
I think it was you who stated that it was simply a sexual encounter between quarantined people and security guards which has lead to Australia doubling its death rate. This has been your defence all along, hasn't it?

I will find the conversation where you were certain that VIC were doing it better than NZ economically and health-wise. In my travels I have seen a post where you say Daniel Andrews has done a great job. You might wan to resile from that now. Just saying.


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Kiwis trolling Australia on covid, its really reached peak Kiwi in here.
I'd be fine on this forum with Australia's Covid response if a couple of supposed Kiwis didn't put the boot in to our handling of this very serious pandemic. Or at least if they apologised for putting the boot in.

For clarity I am referring to ex-Kiwis jdogscoop and Ali's Choice.


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 Post subject: Re: Melbourne. Fvcked.
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Muttonbirds wrote:
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This thread...
That image you posted is typical of you. A load of privileged white males being cruel to an animal. You didn't need to do it. It also has nothing to do with the plight of the people of Melbourne currently in their second lockdown. Huge numbers of families removed from their normal lives. Tens of thousands of kids who can't participate in sport.

You are a disgraceful person. :?



I’m disgraceful? :lol:

You use the Covid outbreak in Melbourne as a platform to relentlessly and gleefully troll this board. You have no regard for the situation or the people effected other than to rub it in the faces of Australian posters. Engaging with you is literally wrestling with a pig.

God only knows why they leave you to stink up the place.


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 Post subject: Re: Melbourne. Fvcked.
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Harveys wrote:
Muttonbirds wrote:
Harveys wrote:
This thread...
That image you posted is typical of you. A load of privileged white males being cruel to an animal. You didn't need to do it. It also has nothing to do with the plight of the people of Melbourne currently in their second lockdown. Huge numbers of families removed from their normal lives. Tens of thousands of kids who can't participate in sport.

You are a disgraceful person. :?



I’m disgraceful? :lol:

You use the Covid outbreak in Melbourne as a platform to relentlessly and gleefully troll this board. You have no regard for the situation or the people effected other than to rub it in the faces of Australian posters. Engaging with you is literally wrestling with a pig.

God only knows why they leave you to stink up the place.
If you actually look at all my posts on this they are about minimising causalities and disruption to families and young people not only in VIC, but Australia, NZ and all over the world. My feeling is that complete and uninterrupted family bubbles for 4 weeks it the only solution. The ROW won't listen which is weird because NZ has proven a successful strategy. :((

For reference, we are in round six of kids' sport and life is literally normal here in every way.

But you clearly have no hope of forming any kind of family unit so I'm not surprised you struggle with the concept. Go fvck yourself Harveys, side ways.


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 Post subject: Re: Melbourne. Fvcked.
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Muttonbirds wrote:
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Kiwis trolling Australia on covid, its really reached peak Kiwi in here.
I'd be fine on this forum with Australia's Covid response if a couple of supposed Kiwis didn't put the boot in to our handling of this very serious pandemic. Or at least if they apologised for putting the boot in.

For clarity I am referring to ex-Kiwis jdogscoop and Ali's Choice.


People are dying

Not from bushfires alas, but from disease

On the bright side, they’re Australians who are dying. They might be someone’s Nan or Pop, but for sure they’re nasty, racist Australians

It’s an ill wind that blows nobody any good, as they say...?

But hey Jacinta, just asking questions, bantz, blah blah

And you’ve got 27 lives it seems.

Shitcvnt


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It has to be seasonal related.

More people congregate indoors in the winter and that promotes spreading.

Can I ask what sort of winter Victoria is having? Is it cold enough that people would prefer to be indoors than outdoors.

It would explain why it hasn't spread to Queensland where it would remain warm enough to be outside and therefore promote social distancing.

God only knows how big the second wave will be up here once our winter comes around again.


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It has to be seasonal related.

More people congregate indoors in the winter and that promotes spreading.

Can I ask what sort of winter Victoria is having? Is it cold enough that people would prefer to be indoors than outdoors.

It would explain why it hasn't spread to Queensland where it would remain warm enough to be outside and therefore promote social distancing.

God only knows how big the second wave will be up here once our winter comes around again.


It is seasonal related for many (all?) of the same reasons that cold and flu are.

https://www.sciencefocus.com/news/covid-19-more-severe-in-cold-weather-study-suggests/


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 Post subject: Re: Melbourne. Fvcked.
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Well that answers that.


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 Post subject: Re: Melbourne. Fvcked.
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Victoria's second outbreak originated from a disastrous hotel quarantine program. From there, numbers have exploded in aged care homes and essential industries as people who cannot afford to stay home go into work with symptoms.

Prior to that they were having the same success with stage 3 restrictions as the other states and territories, with several zero case days recorded in June.


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 Post subject: Re: Melbourne. Fvcked.
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Muttonbirds wrote:
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Seven of eight. That could be a meme into the future. We nearly got there.


That's 19 million people successfully protected. I wouldn't call that a laughing matter.

Victoria is now ringfenced from the rest of Australia and will surely bring it under control as well, eventually.
This bizarre state border concept means that the entire Australian populace in vulnerable now. I hope the numbers stabilise despite the shambles that is Australian federal and state government.

Good luck.


It's not a "bizarre state border concept", it's a federal model of government you fvcktard! :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Melbourne. Fvcked.
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Muttonmong seems to be one or two boozy benders away from morphing into one of those "Sovereign Citizen" types.


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Muttonmong seems to be one or two boozy benders away from morphing into one of those "Sovereign Citizen" types.

Can you stop using the term mong ffs


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 Post subject: Re: Melbourne. Fvcked.
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Muttonbirds wrote:
Harveys wrote:
Muttonbirds wrote:
Harveys wrote:
This thread...
That image you posted is typical of you. A load of privileged white males being cruel to an animal. You didn't need to do it. It also has nothing to do with the plight of the people of Melbourne currently in their second lockdown. Huge numbers of families removed from their normal lives. Tens of thousands of kids who can't participate in sport.

You are a disgraceful person. :?



I’m disgraceful? :lol:

You use the Covid outbreak in Melbourne as a platform to relentlessly and gleefully troll this board. You have no regard for the situation or the people effected other than to rub it in the faces of Australian posters. Engaging with you is literally wrestling with a pig.

God only knows why they leave you to stink up the place.
If you actually look at all my posts on this they are about minimising causalities and disruption to families and young people not only in VIC, but Australia, NZ and all over the world. My feeling is that complete and uninterrupted family bubbles for 4 weeks it the only solution. The ROW won't listen which is weird because NZ has proven a successful strategy. :((

For reference, we are in round six of kids' sport and life is literally normal here in every way.

But you clearly have no hope of forming any kind of family unit so I'm not surprised you struggle with the concept. Go fvck yourself Harveys, side ways.


Get f**ked with your “I’m about the families & preventing covid the world over” bullshit. You have both form & history for trolling the shit out of “racist Australia” and that’s your motivation right now, your MO never changes, ever, you just haven’t descended into full loon meltdown yet.

You get off on it like a little kid with a porno mag slapping himself silly, only you’re an adult so it’s embarrassingly pathetic.


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 Post subject: Re: Melbourne. Fvcked.
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Muttonmong seems to be one or two boozy benders away from morphing into one of those "Sovereign Citizen" types.

Can you stop using the term mong ffs


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Muttonmong seems to be one or two boozy benders away from morphing into one of those "Sovereign Citizen" types.

Can you stop using the term mong ffs


:lol:


You can laugh at me too if you like. It's a hateful term originally coined for people with Down Syndrome - in the bad old days when they were referred to as being mongoloid.

It would put it up there at least with gay bashing terms like poofter - and in many ways I find it a lot worse.


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Maniototo Man wrote:
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Muttonmong seems to be one or two boozy benders away from morphing into one of those "Sovereign Citizen" types.

Can you stop using the term mong ffs


:lol:


You can laugh at me too if you like. It's a hateful term originally coined for people with Down Syndrome - in the bad old days when they were referred to as being mongoloid.

It would put it up there at least with gay bashing terms like poofter - and in many ways I find it a lot worse.


I’m laughing at the hypocrite, c69 uses mong as an insult when it suits him.


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Good to see some actual talk between Andrews and Morrison about Level 4 lockdown's and shutting down everything except essential services.


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Muttonmong seems to be one or two boozy benders away from morphing into one of those "Sovereign Citizen" types.

Can you stop using the term mong ffs


You first.

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This attention whoring mong is casting the net a bit wider than just peace keeping.


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Good to see some actual talk between Andrews and Morrison about Level 4 lockdown's and shutting down everything except essential services.


I'm not sure how that tackles the root cause of the latest cases, that is essential service workers going in to work with symptoms.


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Thomas wrote:
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Muttonmong seems to be one or two boozy benders away from morphing into one of those "Sovereign Citizen" types.

Can you stop using the term mong ffs


You first.

Bimboc69 wrote:
This attention whoring mong is casting the net a bit wider than just peace keeping.




Ouch. But also 2 wrongs? But also ouch.


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Good to see some actual talk between Andrews and Morrison about Level 4 lockdown's and shutting down everything except essential services.


I'm not sure how that tackles the root cause of the latest cases, that is essential service workers going in to work with symptoms.


You have community transmission and I doubt 100% of that is between "essential" service workers. Victoria will never get on top of this with lax contact tracing, piecemeal lockdowns and hundreds of new cases per day. Hell I read a report yesterday of someone who tested positive then went into work the following day.

EDIT - 627 new cases overnight being hinted


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JPNZ wrote:
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Good to see some actual talk between Andrews and Morrison about Level 4 lockdown's and shutting down everything except essential services.


I'm not sure how that tackles the root cause of the latest cases, that is essential service workers going in to work with symptoms.


You have community transmission and I doubt 100% of that is between "essential" service workers. Victoria will never get on top of this with lax contact tracing, piecemeal lockdowns and hundreds of new cases per day. Hell I read a report yesterday of someone who tested positive then went into work the following day.

EDIT - 627 new cases overnight being hinted


The lockdowns aren't piecemeal, they're just stage 3 which has worked for 7 out of 8 states and territories.

The bold text is exactly what I'm referring to. Many of these people are essential workers who don't get sick pay so they keep going to work until they're too sick to stand.

I'm not sure how level 4 lockdown stops that, because an essential service worker still goes to work.


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Good to see some actual talk between Andrews and Morrison about Level 4 lockdown's and shutting down everything except essential services.


I'm not sure how that tackles the root cause of the latest cases, that is essential service workers going in to work with symptoms.


You have community transmission and I doubt 100% of that is between "essential" service workers. Victoria will never get on top of this with lax contact tracing, piecemeal lockdowns and hundreds of new cases per day. Hell I read a report yesterday of someone who tested positive then went into work the following day.

EDIT - 627 new cases overnight being hinted


The lockdowns aren't piecemeal, they're just stage 3 which has worked for 7 out of 8 states and territories.

The bold text is exactly what I'm referring to. Many of these people are essential workers who don't get sick pay so they keep going to work until they're too sick to stand.

I'm not sure how level 4 lockdown stops that, because an essential service worker still goes to work.


Obviously good levels of PPE and social distancing at these workplaces... :thumbdown:


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JPNZ wrote:
jdogscoop wrote:
JPNZ wrote:
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JPNZ wrote:
Good to see some actual talk between Andrews and Morrison about Level 4 lockdown's and shutting down everything except essential services.


I'm not sure how that tackles the root cause of the latest cases, that is essential service workers going in to work with symptoms.


You have community transmission and I doubt 100% of that is between "essential" service workers. Victoria will never get on top of this with lax contact tracing, piecemeal lockdowns and hundreds of new cases per day. Hell I read a report yesterday of someone who tested positive then went into work the following day.

EDIT - 627 new cases overnight being hinted


The lockdowns aren't piecemeal, they're just stage 3 which has worked for 7 out of 8 states and territories.

The bold text is exactly what I'm referring to. Many of these people are essential workers who don't get sick pay so they keep going to work until they're too sick to stand.

I'm not sure how level 4 lockdown stops that, because an essential service worker still goes to work.


Obviously good levels of PPE and social distancing at these workplaces... :thumbdown:


They are abbatoirs and the like so people are working cheek by jowl. The real issue is the casualisation of the workforce and the fact people can't afford to take sick days.

The government has made extra welfare available but people aren't going through the hassle of applying for it or perhaps speak English as a second language and don't fully understand.

New Zealand was fortunate in that it had low levels of community transition so didn't face the same issues with essential workers, because those factors certainly exist in NZ.


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Yea I realise the casual employee's and sick leave are an issue. Compared to NZ's 5 sick days a year, full time contracted people in Australia get double that.

Either way, like it or not the current lockdown may last months instead of weeks and may see a lot more businesses closed.


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Yea I realise the casual employee's and sick leave are an issue. Compared to NZ's 5 sick days a year, full time contracted people in Australia get double that.

Either way, like it or not the current lockdown may last months instead of weeks and may see a lot more businesses closed.


Fair comments. I'm listening to the Andrews presser and he's not making further announcements today but says door knocking has revealed 1 in 4 people with confirmed cases were not at home. Shocker. :thumbdown:


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Fair comments. I'm listening to the Andrews presser and he's not making further announcements today but says door knocking has revealed 1 in 4 people with confirmed cases were not at home. Shocker. :thumbdown:


Yeah, thats incredible. They should be rounded up by the police and strictly quarantined ASAP. I don't need to post a graph of what exponential growth looks like, but as I said if they don't get control of this soon its not going to slow down.


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Fair comments. I'm listening to the Andrews presser and he's not making further announcements today but says door knocking has revealed 1 in 4 people with confirmed cases were not at home. Shocker. :thumbdown:


Yeah, thats incredible. They should be rounded up by the police and strictly quarantined ASAP. I don't need to post a graph of what exponential growth looks like, but as I said if they don't get control of this soon its not going to slow down.


They've been referred to Victoria Police and face "significant" fines.


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Kiwis trolling Australia on covid, its really reached peak Kiwi in here.


Mittonbird is peak kiwi? That's a very low peak.


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Muttonmong seems to be one or two boozy benders away from morphing into one of those "Sovereign Citizen" types.

Can you stop using the term mong ffs


:lol:


You can laugh at me too if you like. It's a hateful term originally coined for people with Down Syndrome - in the bad old days when they were referred to as being mongoloid.

It would put it up there at least with gay bashing terms like poofter - and in many ways I find it a lot worse.


I’m laughing at the hypocrite, c69 uses mong as an insult when it suits him.


Ah - ok. Apologies then for the half-cocked response. :)


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The idea of introducing a "New Zealand-style" hard lockdown in Victoria has been a repeated question at the daily briefings.

Chief Health Officer Professor Brett Sutton has consistently said it wouldn't necessarily get the same results in Victoria.

"It was different circumstances at a different time," he says.

"We've got a lot more community transmission, bigger numbers."


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NZ style lockdown still not the right fit says Sutton

By Tom Cowie

The idea of introducing a "New Zealand-style" hard lockdown in Victoria has been a repeated question at the daily briefings.

Chief Health Officer Professor Brett Sutton has consistently said it wouldn't necessarily get the same results in Victoria.

"It was different circumstances at a different time," he says.

"We've got a lot more community transmission, bigger numbers."


Thats an oxymoron if I've ever heard one. Whats the plan then, keep doing something which obviously isn't working? If your community transmission is high (which it obviously is) you need faster contact tracing, and less social contact. Maybe level 4 isn't the perfect answer but its helped everywhere else in the world.


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The idea of introducing a "New Zealand-style" hard lockdown in Victoria has been a repeated question at the daily briefings.

Chief Health Officer Professor Brett Sutton has consistently said it wouldn't necessarily get the same results in Victoria.

"It was different circumstances at a different time," he says.

"We've got a lot more community transmission, bigger numbers."



Oh dear, you'll be in trouble for posting that.

I need to know what Jacinta thinks abut all this


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NZ style lockdown still not the right fit says Sutton

By Tom Cowie

The idea of introducing a "New Zealand-style" hard lockdown in Victoria has been a repeated question at the daily briefings.

Chief Health Officer Professor Brett Sutton has consistently said it wouldn't necessarily get the same results in Victoria.

"It was different circumstances at a different time," he says.

"We've got a lot more community transmission, bigger numbers."



Oh dear, you'll be in trouble for posting that.

I need to know what Jacinta thinks abut all this


If Muttonturds wants to send through his expert rejoinder as to why Prof Sutton is wrong, I'd be happy to pass it on to him.


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