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Brumbieman

Post subject: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:59 am

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Fark, 27 stories up in flames

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Old Man by the Sea

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:21 am

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Location: Next to the Ocean.

Sounds terrible.

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TheDocForgotHisLogon

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:21 am

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That's looking very very bad. Seems to have spread very quickly and lots of witnesses seem to be indicating a lot of people didn't get out.

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village

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:33 am

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God it looks horrible.

Seems to have consumed the building at an alarming speed and councils were supposed to have checked safety regulations after the one in 2009.

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comets

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:48 am

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https://twitter.com/RT_com/status/874831077264773121

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Jays Myth

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:53 am

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Reports of people making ropes from sheets to escape :shock:

I wish I paid more attention at scouts!

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Yourmother

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:55 am

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It looks horrific.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40269625

Another London tragedy

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freewheelan

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:29 am

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This is horrible. What on earth could have caused such an intense fire?

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DragsterDriver

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:33 am

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Looks like they've clad the tower in a combustible material from the way it's burning?

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comets

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:47 am

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https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.c ... with-fire/

they knew and still allowed this to happen :/

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Troll

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:47 am

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Location: London

Speechless

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Kiwias

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:49 am

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Just watching it on BBC World Service.

Appalling

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Yourmother

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:54 am

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https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.c ... -fire/amp/

Predicted to happen.

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Peaches

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:59 am

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religiously motivated arson?

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Rumham

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:10 am

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I saw a fire like this in Shanghai about 7 years ago. That killed over 50 people

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freewheelan

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:17 am

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I just saw an interview with a resident who said within 45 minutes of him first noticing the fire the whole building was on fire.

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TheDocForgotHisLogon

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:39 am

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Yourmother wrote:

https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com/2016/11/20/kctmo-playing-with-fire/amp/

Predicted to happen.

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In the last twenty years and despite the terrifying power surge incident in 2013 and recent fire at Adair Tower, the residents of Grenfell Tower have received no proper fire safety instructions from the KCTMO. Residents were informed by a temporary notice stuck in the lift and one announcement in a recent regeneration newsletter that they should remain in their flats in the event of fire. There are not and never have been any instructions posted in the Grenfell Tower noticeboard or on individual floor as to how residents should act in event of a fire. Anyone who witnessed the recent tower block fire at Shepherds Court, in nearby Shepherd’s Bush, will know that the advice to remain in our properties would have led to certain fatalities and we are calling on our landlord to re-consider the advice that they have so badly circulated.

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wamberal99

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:56 am

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Peaches wrote:

religiously motivated arson?

The authorities who allow a building like this to be inhabited should be charged.

A building like this in a first world city is totally unbelievable. WTF?

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Denirostaxidriver

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:00 am

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TheDocForgotHisLogon wrote:

Yourmother wrote:

https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com/2016/11/20/kctmo-playing-with-fire/amp/

Predicted to happen.

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WTF. That is terrible. The footage of this is just horrible. I really hope people got out in time.

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RuggaBugga

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:04 am

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Fucking hell :shock:

There are going to be a lot of fatalities from that.

:((

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Brumbieman

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:11 am

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fudge me, this is just f**king horrific

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brat

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:13 am

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Apparently a brave Aussie got an axe to break down doors to let people out

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Bimboc69

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:17 am

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Location: For Wales the Welsh and aproppriate pronouns

DragsterDriver wrote:

Looks like they've clad the tower in a combustible material from the way it's burning?

The building was refurbished very recently apparently.
The poor guy trapped :((

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Willie Falloon

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:21 am

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Looks like a lot of fatalities, couldn't have happened at a worse time when everyone is in their bed.

Very sad.

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Pat the Ex Mat

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:27 am

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TheDocForgotHisLogon wrote:

Yourmother wrote:

https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com/2016/11/20/kctmo-playing-with-fire/amp/

Predicted to happen.

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How is that even possibly allowable?!

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Market Square Hero

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:30 am

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brat wrote:

Apparently a brave Aussie got an axe to break down doors to let people out

Quade Cooper looking for a laptop?

Sorry, too soon.

Looks bloody horrific - did I hear reports they'd been working on the gas supply recently?

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Bimboc69

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:33 am

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Pat the Ex Mat wrote:

TheDocForgotHisLogon wrote:

Yourmother wrote:

https://grenfellactiongroup.wordpress.com/2016/11/20/kctmo-playing-with-fire/amp/

Predicted to happen.

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How is that even possibly allowable?!

Feck that sounds bad

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village

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:35 am

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Reports of no communal fire alarms, just smoke detectors in flats. Sounds like the council have done everything possible to make that place a deathtrap.

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JB1981

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:39 am

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Location: NZ

Fingers crossed for those in hospital. Reading about a mother holding a child out the window was pretty grim.

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Bimboc69

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:44 am

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Location: For Wales the Welsh and aproppriate pronouns

village wrote:

Reports of no communal fire alarms, just smoke detectors in flats. Sounds like the council have done everything possible to make that place a deathtrap.

Sounds terrible. The reports about the cladding spreading the fire is startling.

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Maniototo Man

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:58 am

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Location: Well South

Utterly horrific. I can't think of anything more terrifying.

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henry

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:04 am

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Jesus. Horrific. Given the time, scale and ferocity of the fire, and the eyewitness reports, looks likely that there are a large number of fatalities.

UK not having the best of runs at the moment.

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Rumham

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:10 am

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c69 wrote:

village wrote:

Reports of no communal fire alarms, just smoke detectors in flats. Sounds like the council have done everything possible to make that place a deathtrap.

Sounds terrible. The reports about the cladding spreading the fire is startling.

The Shanghai fire was started when dodgy welders lit the insulation they were installing and basically the whole building went up immediately.

Also if a fire catches on quickly at a lower level then you don't have much chance at a higher floor regardless of what fancy alarm systems you might have. With no central fire suppression system you are goosed at the higher levels of these older buildings. This is fairly common and a big risk.

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Crash_12

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:15 am

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We have the technology to prevent anything like this, it shouldn't even be a possibility in this day and age.

'Stay in your flat' :uhoh:

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englishchief

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:17 am

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If this was arson, the person responsible should be publicly hung. BBC reporting numerous casualties.

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Nolanator

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:17 am

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Those images are terrifying. :uhoh:

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Petros

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:22 am

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Where was Steve McQueen?

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TheDocForgotHisLogon

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:27 am

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englishchief wrote:

If this was arson, the person responsible should be publicly hung. BBC reporting numerous casualties.

Well it's sounding like the root cause is the vulnerability of the building and the people in it rather than a fact a small fire started, deliberately or otherwise.

I also don't get why the press / TV are so reluctant to discuss the scale. The Fire Service and plod will already know if there were 100s of casualties, which looks very likely.

This will also create s$$$$$$$quillions in building remediation in all those cities with similar housing.

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village

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:28 am

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Just imagine living in one of those other 3 towers on that estate, knowing you and your kids are sleeping in a deathtrap too.

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bimboman

Post subject: Re: Tower Block fire in London?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 8:29 am

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englishchief wrote:

If this was arson, the person responsible should be publicly hung. BBC reporting numerous casualties.

Being reported as fire from a fridge ...

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This will also create s$$$$$$$quillions in building remediation in all those cities with similar housing.

The continent is covered in tower blocks. They're not rebuilding them.

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