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Heading off on the West Highland Way tomorrow. did it many moons ago but this time I am taking the good lady with me. TBF she has put in far more training than myself so I will probably be dawdling along in her wake. Weather looks fair for the whole week so that will be half the battle


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I'm going to be hiking the Annapurna circuit in July (yes I know its monsoon season). Its the first long trek I'll have done in 6 years! In that time all I've done is a couple of one day hikes.

Any advice for anyone getting back into hiking?


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Heading off on the West Highland Way tomorrow. did it many moons ago but this time I am taking the good lady with me. TBF she has put in far more training than myself so I will probably be dawdling along in her wake. Weather looks fair for the whole week so that will be half the battle


A week?! Man up and walk faster princess, just because call you plod doesn't mean you have to walk like that!


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I'm going to be hiking the Annapurna circuit in July (yes I know its monsoon season). Its the first long trek I'll have done in 6 years! In that time all I've done is a couple of one day hikes.

Any advice for anyone getting back into hiking?


The usual... take your time and plenty of rest breaks. The AC is a steady climb, there's no up and down to it at all, you just keep going up. Once you do summit the pass and head down then, your legs will be screaming in agony within an hour. That's something to look forward to :thumbup:

There's a lot of road development in the area. For the most part you can stick to the trail and stay off the road but if you need a ride at any stage it's there and thumbing a lift should work. You might have to wait a while for a vehicle, hard to say in monsoon season how much traffic there would be.


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I'm going to be hiking the Annapurna circuit in July (yes I know its monsoon season). Its the first long trek I'll have done in 6 years! In that time all I've done is a couple of one day hikes.

Any advice for anyone getting back into hiking?


Invest in some good boots then get out there and do as many weekend hikes as you can between now and July. That'll get your hiking fitness up as well as break in the boots and confirm they are comfortable and a good fit. I did the AC with my ex girlfriend 20 odd years ago and she found out a few days into the hike that her brand new boots weren't quite right and she suffered agonising blisters on her heels.

A couple of years back I decided to do a day hike in Queenstown that I did 20 years ago no problem. Hadn't done any hiking in years but keep fit through moutain biking so figured I would be fine. WRONG! Totally different type of fitness and I was absolutely f**ked!

Having said all that the AC is long enough that you can build your fitness on the walk itself. Have fun. :thumbup:


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I'm going to be hiking the Annapurna circuit in July (yes I know its monsoon season). Its the first long trek I'll have done in 6 years! In that time all I've done is a couple of one day hikes.

Any advice for anyone getting back into hiking?


Invest in some good boots then get out there and do as many weekend hikes as you can between now and July. That'll get your hiking fitness up as well as break in the boots and confirm they are comfortable and a good fit. I did the AC with my ex girlfriend 20 odd years ago and she found out a few days into the hike that her brand new boots weren't quite right and she suffered agonising blisters on her heels.

A couple of years back I decided to do a day hike in Queenstown that I did 20 years ago no problem. Hadn't done any hiking in years but keep fit through moutain biking so figured I would be fine. WRONG! Totally different type of fitness and I was absolutely f**k!

Having said all that the AC is long enough that you can build your fitness on the walk itself. Have fun. :thumbup:


Thanks to you and Guy.

My old boots (Brasher's) are wrecked so I bought a pair of Meidl's which seem comfortable. I've got two 20km walks planned before I head out.

I've planned the walk so there's no more than 20km in a day. Even walking at 3kmph that's not much walking time, so I will definitely go slow. How did you guys find the altitude?


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I only walked part of the AC. Due to my girlfriend's blisters we had to bail out early so didn't make it high enough for altitude to be a factor.


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I only walked part of the AC. Due to my girlfriend's blisters we had to bail out early so didn't make it high enough for altitude to be a factor.


Sorry to hear that mate. Its never good to get so close to your goal...


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Thanks to you and Guy.

My old boots (Brasher's) are wrecked so I bought a pair of Meidl's which seem comfortable. I've got two 20km walks planned before I head out.

I've planned the walk so there's no more than 20km in a day. Even walking at 3kmph that's not much walking time, so I will definitely go slow. How did you guys find the altitude?


I doubt I got close to 20km in a day on the AC. I did a trek close to Everest last year and might have got up to 12km per day going up, I'm not sure... coming down from that was a different story. I had places to be :lol:

Altitude is ok so long as you don't hurry your ascent. I found the combination of thin air and steep terrain added up to the hardest work I've ever done but a lot of that is mental. The basics are that once you're over 3500m you only gain 3-500m elevation per day. I stuck to that and every now and then you find you have to do more... so long as you haven't hurried it that should be fine. Doing AC, you take a rest day at Manang, at 3500m... side hikes from there for a day can get you up and back down for the night as far as 800m if you go up to the ice lake. Doing so will help on the succeeding days... those day long elevation gains and a return to rest work a treat. From Manang it's relentless and you have some steep gains. We crossed the pass in 3 days from there... almost 2000m gained in a fair old hurry and looking back I think I was feeling the altitude on the last morning when I yakked up a multi vitamin at the door of my room straight after hoisting the pack :lol: I struggled a bit on the last day from Churi Ledhar to Thorung Pedi but took a nap at lunch then zoomed up to High Camp in 80 minutes. That was a big gain day and a lot of people struggle with a night at High Camp but we figured it was worth it to have the extra 400m behind us the next day getting over the pass. Altitude fucks with your sleep anyway and we were ok up there but a couple of others got pretty crook.

Take some Diamox or equivalent with you. If you think the altitude is getting to you, take one in the morning and another at night if you're woozy. Any sign of distress or behaviour change, just go down for a night. 300m down will make a difference.


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guy smiley wrote:
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Thanks to you and Guy.

My old boots (Brasher's) are wrecked so I bought a pair of Meidl's which seem comfortable. I've got two 20km walks planned before I head out.

I've planned the walk so there's no more than 20km in a day. Even walking at 3kmph that's not much walking time, so I will definitely go slow. How did you guys find the altitude?


I doubt I got close to 20km in a day on the AC. I did a trek close to Everest last year and might have got up to 12km per day going up, I'm not sure... coming down from that was a different story. I had places to be :lol:

Altitude is ok so long as you don't hurry your ascent. I found the combination of thin air and steep terrain added up to the hardest work I've ever done but a lot of that is mental. The basics are that once you're over 3500m you only gain 3-500m elevation per day. I stuck to that and every now and then you find you have to do more... so long as you haven't hurried it that should be fine. Doing AC, you take a rest day at Manang, at 3500m... side hikes from there for a day can get you up and back down for the night as far as 800m if you go up to the ice lake. Doing so will help on the succeeding days... those day long elevation gains and a return to rest work a treat. From Manang it's relentless and you have some steep gains. We crossed the pass in 3 days from there... almost 2000m gained in a fair old hurry and looking back I think I was feeling the altitude on the last morning when I yakked up a multi vitamin at the door of my room straight after hoisting the pack :lol: I struggled a bit on the last day from Churi Ledhar to Thorung Pedi but took a nap at lunch then zoomed up to High Camp in 80 minutes. That was a big gain day and a lot of people struggle with a night at High Camp but we figured it was worth it to have the extra 400m behind us the next day getting over the pass. Altitude f**k with your sleep anyway and we were ok up there but a couple of others got pretty crook.

Take some Diamox or equivalent with you. If you think the altitude is getting to you, take one in the morning and another at night if you're woozy. Any sign of distress or behaviour change, just go down for a night. 300m down will make a difference.


Grand, I've climbed Kilimanjaro a while back and spent most of the last day vomiting so I know I can be susceptible to altitude.

I'm mostly prepared now, just need to get walking fitness back. I'm running every 2 days for general fitness and have a couple of big walks coming up. Should be good fun, despite the monsoon...


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First training hike for the 31 mile day in August. 14.8 relatively flat, but occasionally tricky, miles. Don't like the current trail runners for this, although they're great for short runs and shorter walks. Back to the Merrell trail gloves.


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Grand, I've climbed Kilimanjaro a while back and spent most of the last day vomiting so I know I can be susceptible to altitude.

I'm mostly prepared now, just need to get walking fitness back. I'm running every 2 days for general fitness and have a couple of big walks coming up. Should be good fun, despite the monsoon...


:thumbup: :thumbup: From what I've heard, Kilimanjaro is a brute. You've done that so you should be right on the AC. Maximum elevation is 5416. It'll be interesting to see how you go in the monsoon.. I expect you'll get a lot of cloud and the humidity in the first week should be...

perfect for weight loss.


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Planning on hiking the Pembrokeshire coastal path in a couple of weeks time. Going to do it all in one go, wild camping near the path every night and am allocating two weeks for the job (188 miles with a lot of up and downing)

I'm generally fit, do the odd short hike, cycle, kayaking, climbing etc. I'm not planning on doing any training, just cracking on with it.

For those experienced at long distance hiking -am I mad, or does that all sound perfectly achievable?


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Well my plan to go to the Lake District and bag a few in September is stymied by the fact my ankle is still not 100%

Still doing Snowdon though - through gritted teeth.


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Planning on hiking the Pembrokeshire coastal path in a couple of weeks time. Going to do it all in one go, wild camping near the path every night and am allocating two weeks for the job (188 miles with a lot of up and downing)

I'm generally fit, do the odd short hike, cycle, kayaking, climbing etc. I'm not planning on doing any training, just cracking on with it.

For those experienced at long distance hiking -am I mad, or does that all sound perfectly achievable?


Sure those 13.5 miles a day will be a real struggle chubby boy.


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Well my plan to go to the Lake District and bag a few in September is stymied by the fact my ankle is still not 100%

Still doing Snowdon though - through gritted teeth.


You know there is a train service to the top?


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Well my plan to go to the Lake District and bag a few in September is stymied by the fact my ankle is still not 100%

Still doing Snowdon though - through gritted teeth.


You know there is a train service to the top?


That's for Bloody Tourists!

I used to live the other side of Lake Cwellyn and climbed Snowdon every month...


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Planning on hiking the Pembrokeshire coastal path in a couple of weeks time. Going to do it all in one go, wild camping near the path every night and am allocating two weeks for the job (188 miles with a lot of up and downing)

I'm generally fit, do the odd short hike, cycle, kayaking, climbing etc. I'm not planning on doing any training, just cracking on with it.

For those experienced at long distance hiking -am I mad, or does that all sound perfectly achievable?


Sure those 13.5 miles a day will be a real struggle chubby boy.


I'm unsure if this is a genuine response, or a continuation of the bitter and twisted Scots Lions shenanigans. Can someone confirm?


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cubby boi wrote:
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Planning on hiking the Pembrokeshire coastal path in a couple of weeks time. Going to do it all in one go, wild camping near the path every night and am allocating two weeks for the job (188 miles with a lot of up and downing)

I'm generally fit, do the odd short hike, cycle, kayaking, climbing etc. I'm not planning on doing any training, just cracking on with it.

For those experienced at long distance hiking -am I mad, or does that all sound perfectly achievable?


Sure those 13.5 miles a day will be a real struggle chubby boy.


I'm unsure if this is a genuine response, or a continuation of the bitter and twisted Scots Lions shenanigans. Can someone confirm?

You can do 13.5 miles in a morning.


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Planning on hiking the Pembrokeshire coastal path in a couple of weeks time. Going to do it all in one go, wild camping near the path every night and am allocating two weeks for the job (188 miles with a lot of up and downing)

I'm generally fit, do the odd short hike, cycle, kayaking, climbing etc. I'm not planning on doing any training, just cracking on with it.

For those experienced at long distance hiking -am I mad, or does that all sound perfectly achievable?


Sure those 13.5 miles a day will be a real struggle chubby boy.


I'm unsure if this is a genuine response, or a continuation of the bitter and twisted Scots Lions shenanigans. Can someone confirm?

You can do 13.5 miles in a morning.


Thanks. The thing I'm worried about though is if I don't do any training, will my legs be knackered the following day, early on? Or will blisters be a problem? I think what I I'm getting at is that I could probably push myself to hike 30 miles on the first day if I wanted, but at what point am I risking the rest of the trip?


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Also bear in mi d that I'll be wild camping and carrying a pack of around 12 KG. ..


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Also bear in mi d that I'll be wild camping and carrying a pack of around 12 KG. ..

12kg???
You sound a bit underpacked tbh.


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Also bear in mi d that I'll be wild camping and carrying a pack of around 12 KG. ..

You not taking anything with you then?


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Thanks. The thing I'm worried about though is if I don't do any training, will my legs be knackered the following day, early on? Or will blisters be a problem? I think what I I'm getting at is that I could probably push myself to hike 30 miles on the first day if I wanted, but at what point am I risking the rest of the trip?


Just push as hard as you can. You'll walk yourself into fitness :thumbup: :nod:


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Also bear in mi d that I'll be wild camping and carrying a pack of around 12 KG. ..

12kg???
You sound a bit underpacked tbh.


Well that's what I'm hoping to keep it to...
I'll be taking my terra nova jupiter bivi which is only 800g and my sleeping bag is about the same. My 50-60l pack is 1.3KG. I'll stay dressed if I get cold. I'm hoping I won't have to carry too much water or food at any one time as shops and toilets are relatively frequent. I'll defiantly be roughing it.

What would be a normal pack weight for this kind of trip then?


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guy smiley wrote:
cubby boi wrote:

Thanks. The thing I'm worried about though is if I don't do any training, will my legs be knackered the following day, early on? Or will blisters be a problem? I think what I I'm getting at is that I could probably push myself to hike 30 miles on the first day if I wanted, but at what point am I risking the rest of the trip?


Just push as hard as you can. You'll walk yourself into fitness :thumbup: :nod:


Yeah, this is what I'm aim aiming for, I just don't know how big to start without any "warm up" hikes. If I can start at 13 miles without damaging myself then I'd hope to increase that throughout the trip and hopefully finish quicker?


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Thanks. The thing I'm worried about though is if I don't do any training, will my legs be knackered the following day, early on? Or will blisters be a problem? I think what I I'm getting at is that I could probably push myself to hike 30 miles on the first day if I wanted, but at what point am I risking the rest of the trip?


Just push as hard as you can. You'll walk yourself into fitness :thumbup: :nod:


Yeah, this is what I'm aim aiming for, I just don't know how big to start without any "warm up" hikes. If I can start at 13 miles without damaging myself then I'd hope to increase that throughout the trip and hopefully finish quicker?


Oh, I thought you were going to do 30 miles on the first day. Now you're pussying out of it.


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guy smiley wrote:
cubby boi wrote:

Thanks. The thing I'm worried about though is if I don't do any training, will my legs be knackered the following day, early on? Or will blisters be a problem? I think what I I'm getting at is that I could probably push myself to hike 30 miles on the first day if I wanted, but at what point am I risking the rest of the trip?


Just push as hard as you can. You'll walk yourself into fitness :thumbup: :nod:


Guy beat me to it. You sound pretty fit already so you shouldn't have a problem. Do you have good boots that you've worn in and are comfortable in? New boots leading to blisters would be the only risk if you haven't done any training.

As for pack weight mine used to weigh about 12kg including a tent, sleeping bag, cooking gear and food for about 5 days. Since you don't need the cooking gear and food you should be able to travel relatively light.


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cubby boi wrote:
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Also bear in mi d that I'll be wild camping and carrying a pack of around 12 KG. ..

12kg???
You sound a bit underpacked tbh.


Well that's what I'm hoping to keep it to...
I'll be taking my terra nova jupiter bivi which is only 800g and my sleeping bag is about the same. My 50-60l pack is 1.3KG. I'll stay dressed if I get cold. I'm hoping I won't have to carry too much water or food at any one time as shops and toilets are relatively frequent. I'll defiantly be roughing it.

What would be a normal pack weight for this kind of trip then?


You might want a bit of redundancy in that pack...

What if your sleeping bag gets wet? Is it down? Nice and light and packable, but when wet it's useless and you won't have much option to dry it en route, I presume? That's your biggest risk, straight up.

What if your boots get wet? They probably will at some point. Do you have a spare pair of *something*?

Stay dressed if you're cold. What if your gear is wet - see wet sleeping bag problem again.

How will you dry your gear in a bivy if it does chuck it down?

Sorry, but I do a lot of walking in Scotland (especially the West) and apart from the sodding midges at this time of year, the biggest issue is water ingress - into everything. My down bag is packed very carefully, but I need to be gettig into it naked or with guaranteed dry clothes if I'm doing a multi day.

Speaking of which, I haven't walked properly for about 6 months. Trip on Friday is a 4-bagger - a nice little warmer-upper on Saturday (1km ascent) and then a bit of a bitch on Sunday - 3 hills with 2.4km of ascent (start at bloody sea level) over 24km. Should be good fun, but I'm expecting to be shattered by the end of it. We're boating along the loch to get to the start point too... so much room for utter disaster at basically every turn :)


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Thanks guys.

Yes, have good boots, well worn in.
That wasn't the whole list of stuff going with me, just showing that the gear I'm taking is generally light.
I'll have a lightweight stove, gas and will pick up food as I go once my initial rations have run out.
Will have a lightweight pair of flip flops in reserve.
hope to keep stuff dry inside lightweight waterproof rucksack liners.
Yeah rain will be a big problem with a bivy if I need to change, cook etc. But on the upside it's lightweight, tiny pack size, freestanding, warmer than a tent, setup is pretty much instantaneous and it only needs a tiny footprint - perfect for hiding out when wild camping, which isn't actually legal in Wales, unlike Scotland.

How many miles would you recommend limiting myself to on the first couple of days to break myself in?

PJM- sounds like a proper adventure :thumbup:


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Yes, have good boots, well worn in.
That wasn't the whole list of stuff going with me, just showing that the gear I'm taking is generally light.
I'll have a lightweight stove, gas and will pick up food as I go once my initial rations have run out.
Will have a lightweight pair of flip flops in reserve.
hope to keep stuff dry inside lightweight waterproof rucksack liners.
Yeah rain will be a big problem with a bivy if I need to change, cook etc. But on the upside it's lightweight, tiny pack size, freestanding, warmer than a tent, setup is pretty much instantaneous and it only needs a tiny footprint - perfect for hiding out when wild camping, which isn't actually legal in Wales, unlike Scotland.

How many miles would you recommend limiting myself to on the first couple of days to break myself in?

PJM- sounds like a proper adventure :thumbup:


Not sure why thought it was about lions, was the short distance that made me think you were a fat lad.

Don't aim for anything, walk amd rest at pace you are comfortable with (or the slowest in your group) even with basic fitness and uphill to deal with, 20 miles should be easy in a day. Do the same the next. Even if manage 17 the first and only 10 the second you are still ahead of target.
You will surprise yourself, barring injury once you have walked off the initial stiffness in the morning 15-20 miles should be a breeze and with long summer days and time taken enjoying the walk and views more should be easy if feel good.

If you are worried set yourself waypoints around 7-9 miles (if can find a pub close by them the perfect thing) lunch at the first and if hit the second early afternoon you head for the third, if feel shite take an early day, pint (and a steak pie) and steel yourself for next day.


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Thanks guys.

Yes, have good boots, well worn in.
That wasn't the whole list of stuff going with me, just showing that the gear I'm taking is generally light.
I'll have a lightweight stove, gas and will pick up food as I go once my initial rations have run out.
Will have a lightweight pair of flip flops in reserve.
hope to keep stuff dry inside lightweight waterproof rucksack liners.
Yeah rain will be a big problem with a bivy if I need to change, cook etc. But on the upside it's lightweight, tiny pack size, freestanding, warmer than a tent, setup is pretty much instantaneous and it only needs a tiny footprint - perfect for hiding out when wild camping, which isn't actually legal in Wales, unlike Scotland.

How many miles would you recommend limiting myself to on the first couple of days to break myself in?

PJM- sounds like a proper adventure :thumbup:


Not sure why thought it was about lions, was the short distance that made me think you were a fat lad.

Don't aim for anything, walk amd rest at pace you are comfortable with (or the slowest in your group) even with basic fitness and uphill to deal with, 20 miles should be easy in a day. Do the same the next. Even if manage 17 the first and only 10 the second you are still ahead of target.
You will surprise yourself, barring injury once you have walked off the initial stiffness in the morning 15-20 miles should be a breeze and with long summer days and time taken enjoying the walk and views more should be easy if feel good.

If you are worried set yourself waypoints around 7-9 miles (if can find a pub close by them the perfect thing) lunch at the first and if hit the second early afternoon you head for the third, if feel shite take an early day, pint (and a steak pie) and steel yourself for next day.


Cheers. I guess I'm just worried as having not done a great deal of multi day, I won't know when to stop, to save myself. It's only because on a couple of odd occasions previously I've done a relatively strenuous hike one day, and the next, I've been in agony. Such as one I did a while back including crib Coch on Snowdon. I'm doing it on my own and just don't want to come home on day 2 with my tail between my legs feeling like death!
Guess ill just Crack on then and try to judge for myself. I want to challenge myself as much as poss, so if I can do it in a week rather than 2, then I will do!


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The stuff you're talking about you could fit in a 35l pack.

I'd have redundancy packed in with all my clothing - a wet spell in a bivy will make life very uncomfortable very quickly.

I'd also always have a minimum of a day's rations and 2l of water. On a similar wilderness trip I once found that, despite planning, the shops were shut for 2 days solid.

Again, if you're bivvying, your spare shoes should be waterproof.

As an old training sergeant told me, any idiot can be uncomfortable


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Going to be near Winchester for a few days in August - any recommendations on the best stretch of the South Downs way?


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Thanks guys.

Yes, have good boots, well worn in.
That wasn't the whole list of stuff going with me, just showing that the gear I'm taking is generally light.
I'll have a lightweight stove, gas and will pick up food as I go once my initial rations have run out.
Will have a lightweight pair of flip flops in reserve.
hope to keep stuff dry inside lightweight waterproof rucksack liners.
Yeah rain will be a big problem with a bivy if I need to change, cook etc. But on the upside it's lightweight, tiny pack size, freestanding, warmer than a tent, setup is pretty much instantaneous and it only needs a tiny footprint - perfect for hiding out when wild camping, which isn't actually legal in Wales, unlike Scotland.

How many miles would you recommend limiting myself to on the first couple of days to break myself in?

PJM- sounds like a proper adventure :thumbup:


Not sure why thought it was about lions, was the short distance that made me think you were a fat lad.

Don't aim for anything, walk amd rest at pace you are comfortable with (or the slowest in your group) even with basic fitness and uphill to deal with, 20 miles should be easy in a day. Do the same the next. Even if manage 17 the first and only 10 the second you are still ahead of target.
You will surprise yourself, barring injury once you have walked off the initial stiffness in the morning 15-20 miles should be a breeze and with long summer days and time taken enjoying the walk and views more should be easy if feel good.

If you are worried set yourself waypoints around 7-9 miles (if can find a pub close by them the perfect thing) lunch at the first and if hit the second early afternoon you head for the third, if feel shite take an early day, pint (and a steak pie) and steel yourself for next day.


Cheers. I guess I'm just worried as having not done a great deal of multi day, I won't know when to stop, to save myself. It's only because on a couple of odd occasions previously I've done a relatively strenuous hike one day, and the next, I've been in agony. Such as one I did a while back including crib Coch on Snowdon. I'm doing it on my own and just don't want to come home on day 2 with my tail between my legs feeling like death!
Guess ill just Crack on then and try to judge for myself. I want to challenge myself as much as poss, so if I can do it in a week rather than 2, then I will do!


I was taking the piss earlier because you were being silly talking about going hard...

the idea is to enjoy the walk and your surroundings. Take your time, pace yourself for the whole event and forget the idea of knocking it out in quick time. I saw that attitude in Nepal last year and it seems to me to defeat the purpose of being out there walking.

Line your pack with plastic bin liners and seperate your gear with the same. Keep a change of clothes dry that way and wet gear separated off.


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Also bear in mi d that I'll be wild camping and carrying a pack of around 12 KG. ..

12kg???
You sound a bit underpacked tbh.


Well that's what I'm hoping to keep it to...
I'll be taking my terra nova jupiter bivi which is only 800g and my sleeping bag is about the same. My 50-60l pack is 1.3KG. I'll stay dressed if I get cold. I'm hoping I won't have to carry too much water or food at any one time as shops and toilets are relatively frequent. I'll defiantly be roughing it.

What would be a normal pack weight for this kind of trip then?


You might want a bit of redundancy in that pack...

What if your sleeping bag gets wet? Is it down? Nice and light and packable, but when wet it's useless and you won't have much option to dry it en route, I presume? That's your biggest risk, straight up.

What if your boots get wet? They probably will at some point. Do you have a spare pair of *something*?

Stay dressed if you're cold. What if your gear is wet - see wet sleeping bag problem again.

How will you dry your gear in a bivy if it does chuck it down?

Sorry, but I do a lot of walking in Scotland (especially the West) and apart from the sodding midges at this time of year, the biggest issue is water ingress - into everything. My down bag is packed very carefully, but I need to be gettig into it naked or with guaranteed dry clothes if I'm doing a multi day.

Speaking of which, I haven't walked properly for about 6 months. Trip on Friday is a 4-bagger - a nice little warmer-upper on Saturday (1km ascent) and then a bit of a bitch on Sunday - 3 hills with 2.4km of ascent (start at bloody sea level) over 24km. Should be good fun, but I'm expecting to be shattered by the end of it. We're boating along the loch to get to the start point too... so much room for utter disaster at basically every turn :)

It shouldn't be if you're waterproofing everything.


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Just got back from 18 days trekking in Nepal. Great time, and I avoided the rain seeing as it was monsoon season. My legs are definitely getting late onset tired now I'm back though!


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Just got back from 18 days trekking in Nepal. Great time, and I avoided the rain seeing as it was monsoon season. My legs are definitely getting late onset tired now I'm back though!

:o

How did you go? Get over the pass? And... no rain? really? I've seen photos of terrible flooding in Kathmandu. If you managed to miss that then I'm impressed and jealous :lol:


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Going to be near Winchester for a few days in August - any recommendations on the best stretch of the South Downs way?


From Winchester you can do the first leg of the SDW to Exon, roughly about 13 miles or so, once you cross over the M3 you climb up the south downs and it is a very pleasant walk though woodland, countryside, twee villages and farms. There are a few boozers enroute for refreshments although the Shoe Inn in Exon is worth having lunch/dinner in, lovely spot by the river and the village itself is lovely.


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Just got back from 18 days trekking in Nepal. Great time, and I avoided the rain seeing as it was monsoon season. My legs are definitely getting late onset tired now I'm back though!

:o

How did you go? Get over the pass? And... no rain? really? I've seen photos of terrible flooding in Kathmandu. If you managed to miss that then I'm impressed and jealous :lol:


Pretty well, its the first big trek I've done in 8 years and first trek at all in 2!

I got to Thorong La pass fine. I got very bad headaches on the way back down to Muktinath though.

I woke up at 5 every morning to leave at 5.30 and arrive at the next place by 1pm. It rained every night and about half the afternoons, but only twice whilst I was walking!


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