The OFFICIAL 2017-18 Ashes Thread

shereblue · Post by **shereblue** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:33 am

ooops

ooops

ovalball · Post by **ovalball** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:34 am

I doubt we'll make it past the 1st session now.

Enzedder · Post by **Enzedder** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:37 am

Oz must be huge favourites now. Root will be too scared to attack the ball so 50 more runs will see it out.

shereblue · Post by **shereblue** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:46 am

will consider going back to bed if another wicket falls soon

grievous · Post by **grievous** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:46 am

Root fought well ......looking over now for Poms but their tail can wag

mojo · Post by **mojo** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:46 am

Never in doubt.

SecretAgentMan · Post by **SecretAgentMan** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:47 am

Game over. Well done, Australia.

ovalball · Post by **ovalball** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:47 am

Bit of an anti-climax - but no great surprise.

Ah well - at least we won't have to spend all night on tenterhooks.

JB1981 · Post by **JB1981** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:48 am

A bit of a limp finish on the cards after a potential great last day. Congrats to Australia for striking hard early.

Stu Wilsons gloves · Post by **Stu Wilsons gloves** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:48 am

Cricket is a cruel mistress.

jimmy speights · Post by **jimmy speights** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:54 am

FFS Poms - will probably have to do something productive at work this afternoon now.

Brumby_in_Vic · Post by **Brumby_in_Vic** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:56 am

About time Rort got out. He got away with a lot on day 4.

It's not game over yet England have the right batsmen at the crease to counter punch with a lengthy partnership.

Dumbledore · Post by **Dumbledore** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:05 am

Stu Wilsons gloves wrote:Cricket is a cruel mistress.

Is there anything like it?

This could flip very quickly. If either of these two get themselves in that total could start getting reeled in sharpish.

Stu Wilsons gloves · Post by **Stu Wilsons gloves** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:07 am

Dumbledore wrote:
Stu Wilsons gloves wrote:Cricket is a cruel mistress.
Is there anything like it?

This could flip very quickly. If either of these two get themselves in that total could start getting reeled in sharpish.

The Rebels v Force?

Rinkals · Post by **Rinkals** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:08 am

SecretAgentMan wrote:So we're finally all agreed then, if Smith hadn't arrogantly refused to enforce the follow-on Oz would've have won the game by now.

I certainly think so.

I don't think the English top order would have been able to play against the Aussie bowlers with the ball moving around like it did the other night.

I think Smith was also culpable in terms of his batsmen getting out looking for quick runs.

However, the loss of Root has certainly put the Aussies back on top, not least because the ball that got him never got up.

Brumby_in_Vic · Post by **Brumby_in_Vic** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:09 am

Have to target Bairstow's finger that he injured the other day.

Dumbledore · Post by **Dumbledore** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:14 am

Stu Wilsons gloves wrote:
Dumbledore wrote:
Stu Wilsons gloves wrote:Cricket is a cruel mistress.
Is there anything like it?

This could flip very quickly. If either of these two get themselves in that total could start getting reeled in sharpish.
The Rebels v Force?

Well we won that one at least.

Beautiful from Lyon. In the form of his life. He’s lethal against left handlers.

Brumby_in_Vic · Post by **Brumby_in_Vic** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:14 am

Following on would have been the arrogant call. There was a good chance that England would have had Australia out batting again today or last night had that been enforced.

Australia threw away their wickets stupidly in the first session trying hit the ball out of the ground and created enough chances yesterday. Got the players out eventually after more runs were added to the total. Particularly Stoneman (dropped by Hazlewood), Malan (dropped by Smith) and Cook (played his part in a 50 run opening partnership after refusing to refer the LBW shout when he was on one).

Rinkals · Post by **Rinkals** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:14 am

Two umpire calls.

Hmmm.

Enzedder · Post by **Enzedder** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:14 am

Same as Smiths LBW so fair cop

Enzedder · Post by **Enzedder** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:15 am

shereblue wrote:will consider going back to bed if another wicket falls soon

G'nite mate.

<Sorry>

grievous · Post by **grievous** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:15 am

Not over in first session shirely?

Brumby_in_Vic · Post by **Brumby_in_Vic** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:16 am

Rinkals wrote:Two umpire calls.

Hmmm.

The umpiring hasn't helped in this match but the calls are balancing themselves out in the end.

shereblue · Post by **shereblue** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:16 am

Moeen bogged down plays unnecessary sweep. Quicks contributed to that wicket. No need to worry about the new ball now. Well done Aussies

Ellafan · Post by **Ellafan** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:16 am

Ali desperately unlucky there. Umpire should have given him the benefit of the doubt. Which is another problem with the review on LBWs - the umpires shouldn't be giving "probably outs" and leaving it to a review.

Dumbledore · Post by **Dumbledore** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:16 am

Only one run in the last three overs as well as that wicket. Turning the screws.

shereblue · Post by **shereblue** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:17 am

Enzedder wrote:
shereblue wrote:will consider going back to bed if another wicket falls soon
G'nite mate.

<Sorry>

Might stay up. It shouldn't be long now. Good bowling.

Brumby_in_Vic · Post by **Brumby_in_Vic** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:22 am

Dumbledore wrote:Only one run in the last three overs as well as that wicket. Turning the screws.

Got to stop dragging them short or bowling rubbish on the pads. England are getting their cheap runs off that.

Clogs · Post by **Clogs** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:24 am

Ellafan wrote:Ali desperately unlucky there. Umpire should have given him the benefit of the doubt. Which is another problem with the review on LBWs - the umpires shouldn't be giving "probably outs" and leaving it to a review.

This.
There was no way that should have been given out by the umpire. He was so far down the wicket that it should have been a 'not out' from the ump and if it Australia were to review, then the only way it could be overturned was if on review it was clearly landing in line and then going on to smash middle stump half way up.

Dumbledore · Post by **Dumbledore** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:25 am

Brumby_in_Vic wrote:
Dumbledore wrote:Only one run in the last three overs as well as that wicket. Turning the screws.
Got to stop dragging them short or bowling rubbish on the pads. England are getting their cheap runs off that.

Yep, bit sloppy from both Cummins and Lyon after I said that. 160 runs is nothing with two guys who can hang around. Have to seriously dig in now.

Brumby_in_Vic · Post by **Brumby_in_Vic** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:26 am

Have to get Overton now as he batted at four for the England under 19s.

Brumby_in_Vic · Post by **Brumby_in_Vic** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:27 am

Dumbledore wrote:
Brumby_in_Vic wrote:
Dumbledore wrote:Only one run in the last three overs as well as that wicket. Turning the screws.
Got to stop dragging them short or bowling rubbish on the pads. England are getting their cheap runs off that.
Yep, bit sloppy from both Cummins and Lyon after I said that. 160 runs is nothing with two guys who can hang around. Have to seriously dig in now.

Would like to see the wagon wheel as the bulk of the England runs would have been scored from shíte pitched on or outside leg stump. Particularly those two Starc and Hazlewood overs which conceded 30 runs.

Dumbledore · Post by **Dumbledore** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:32 am

Who wears a chest guard?

Probably a good thing he does though, got himself in an awful mess there. Does look quite tidy though.

Brumby_in_Vic · Post by **Brumby_in_Vic** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:36 am

Another dropped catch

grievous · Post by **grievous** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:53 am

It's over now

Brumby_in_Vic · Post by **Brumby_in_Vic** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:53 am

Overton finally runs out of lives first ball with the new ball. Time for Broad to cop some chin music after his behaviour the other day.

Ellafan · Post by **Ellafan** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:54 am

Clogs wrote:
Ellafan wrote:Ali desperately unlucky there. Umpire should have given him the benefit of the doubt. Which is another problem with the review on LBWs - the umpires shouldn't be giving "probably outs" and leaving it to a review.
This.
There was no way that should have been given out by the umpire. He was so far down the wicket that it should have been a 'not out' from the ump and if it Australia were to review, then the only way it could be overturned was if on review it was clearly landing in line and then going on to smash middle stump half way up.

The ball tracking is not accurate anyway. The LBW review should be limited to what happens up to the point it hits the pad, So, did it pitch outside leg, hit in line, was there an edge.

Overton gone. That was absolutely plumb.

shereblue · Post by **shereblue** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:55 am

Goodnight Eileen from me. Didn't have long to worry about the new ball. Congrats Aussies.

Brumby_in_Vic · Post by **Brumby_in_Vic** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:02 am

Don't bowl it on the leg stump trying to swing it

Brumby_in_Vic · Post by **Brumby_in_Vic** » Wed Dec 06, 2017 6:09 am

Starc gets Broad no chin music. Doesn't mean that Anderson isn't going to escape.