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I acquired The Wheel of Time books 1-7 for free last night from the local public library (means no one's really read them in years :( ) I was going to transfer them to the school library I work at, but realised it already has Books 1-10. (I'm new, and building it up as best I can, having just sorted out the mess.)


Question for those who've read it, seeing as I'm keeping this series for myself now ... It's been hinted that books 7-10 are boring, that Jordan's last (couple?) pick up the pace and the posthumous ghost writer really did it justice with Jordan's notes.

Can / should I skip those boring books, or are the events essential - even if boring - to get to the end?
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Just about to finish Gould's Book of Fish by Richard Flanagan.

About a convict transported down to Oz back in the day, but a whole lot more going on. Have really enjoyed it.
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Nieghorn wrote:I acquired The Wheel of Time books 1-7 for free last night from the local public library (means no one's really read them in years :( ) I was going to transfer them to the school library I work at, but realised it already has Books 1-10. (I'm new, and building it up as best I can, having just sorted out the mess.)


Question for those who've read it, seeing as I'm keeping this series for myself now ... It's been hinted that books 7-10 are boring, that Jordan's last (couple?) pick up the pace and the posthumous ghost writer really did it justice with Jordan's notes.

Can / should I skip those boring books, or are the events essential - even if boring - to get to the end?
No. Don't even start reading them. Gift them to a kid you don't like.
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Franco's International Brigades, by Christopher Othen, about the foreigners who volunteered to fight for Nationalist Spain. Full of "Well, I Never" moments, such as the fact that nearly three times more foreigners volunteered for Franco than joined the International Brigades - admittedly mostly Moroccan mercenaries - though they are nearly entirely forgotten, Ireland and Portugal were the only other countries which sent more to Franco than the other side (in the end, Franco refused to send a boat to collect any more Irish volunteers) and a typically idiotic intervention by Jeremy Corbyn. Very entertaining.
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Wondered what kind of Christmas books we had and realised I could cater to two types ... (wanted better pictures, but I didn't have easy access to a colour printer).

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Just finished Tiffany Haddish' The Last Black Unicorn. Nice light reading. Started on this trilogy today...

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Picked this up at the weekend:

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Truly shocking secret history. Describes itself well, but if, like me, you wondered why the civil rights movement was necessary 100 years after the Civil War, this explains why. And Roy Moore just missed out being voted US Senator for Alabama.

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Ramming Speed wrote:Truly shocking secret history. Describes itself well, but if, like me, you wondered why the civil rights movement was necessary 100 years after the Civil War, this explains why. And Roy Moore just missed out being voted US Senator for Alabama.

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Have you read The New Jim Crow? Harrowing. This looks good. Will look for it.
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Will have a look for it, thanks.
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Has anyone read My Life with Mr S by one of Sinatra's former staff?

I must get my hands on a copy. I bet it's fvcking outrageous. I believe one of his terms of endearment for his former boss was "The Prince of Pussy".
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jdogscoop wrote:Has anyone read My Life with Mr S by one of Sinatra's former staff?

I must get my hands on a copy. I bet it's fvcking outrageous. I believe one of his terms of endearment for his former boss was "The Prince of Pussy".
For a while, at least. It seems that little Frank's farewell tour was a few years before big Frank's. Not even a penile implant was able to get him back on the road.
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Just finished the Divine Cities trilogy by Robert Jackson Bennett. Absolutely superb. Up there with China Mieville's Bas-Lag books. If your into speculative fiction, highly highly recommended. Every book is superb. Bit of a golden age for that genre at the moment.

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Ramming Speed wrote:
jdogscoop wrote:Has anyone read My Life with Mr S by one of Sinatra's former staff?

I must get my hands on a copy. I bet it's fvcking outrageous. I believe one of his terms of endearment for his former boss was "The Prince of Pussy".
For a while, at least. It seems that little Frank's farewell tour was a few years before big Frank's. Not even a penile implant was able to get him back on the road.
I just ordered a copy from the UK. Unfortunately I just noticed the pre-fill booked my name the same as my street name. That might prove challenging when Mr Street turns up at the post office to collect his book.
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The lucky ones by Mark Edwards. 👍
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Bindi wrote:Just finished the Divine Cities trilogy by Robert Jackson Bennett. Absolutely superb. Up there with China Mieville's Bas-Lag books. If your into speculative fiction, highly highly recommended. Every book is superb. Bit of a golden age for that genre at the moment.

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? Sci-fi effectively?
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Just finished moving my sister into her new home and in unpacking her library I realise she has 5 Terry Pratchett Discworld books that I haven't read.

Yet.
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Floppykid wrote:
Bindi wrote:Just finished the Divine Cities trilogy by Robert Jackson Bennett. Absolutely superb. Up there with China Mieville's Bas-Lag books. If your into speculative fiction, highly highly recommended. Every book is superb. Bit of a golden age for that genre at the moment.

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? Sci-fi effectively?
No fantasy, but not your typical, great characters and storytelling set in an original setting, it's not medieval England for starters. Involves gods but really it's the characters that shine.
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Anyone read Zadig?
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Any good books on the Oligarchic lootfest that was Russia a couple decades ago?
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Finally got round to this one. Been sitting on my shelf for a few years and I am so annoyed I did not read it earlier. Best laugh I've had from a book for many a year.

The Hundred-Year-Old Man Who Climbed Out of the Window and Disappeared

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Finished "Against a dark background" by Banks last night. Had somehow missed it before, until my dad was talking about it.

Very good, huge amount of creativity and environments jammed into one book. Build up to the climax was bleak as fudge.
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Just finished this.

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About to start on the next in the series, ''Between the Woods and the Water''
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Demilich wrote:
Nieghorn wrote:I acquired The Wheel of Time books 1-7 for free last night from the local public library (means no one's really read them in years :( ) I was going to transfer them to the school library I work at, but realised it already has Books 1-10. (I'm new, and building it up as best I can, having just sorted out the mess.)


Question for those who've read it, seeing as I'm keeping this series for myself now ... It's been hinted that books 7-10 are boring, that Jordan's last (couple?) pick up the pace and the posthumous ghost writer really did it justice with Jordan's notes.

Can / should I skip those boring books, or are the events essential - even if boring - to get to the end?
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This, unfortunately.

I was a big fan whilst a teenager, but the series becomes really slow and just plain bad around book 8. Jordan couldn't write female characters, throughout the series. I really enjoyed books 1-4, books 5,6,7 are OK-ish, then things go bad. The conclusion of the series was really a bit 'meh' for me, there is just so much crap to wade through from book 6 onwards, I finished the series purely because I started it, and had fond memories of getting into it as a teenager.

Start reading book 1, you may just like it. I still think the first 4 are good fantasy novels.

If you are looking to read an "epic fantasy series", read Steven Erikson's 'Malazan Book of the Fallen'. 10 Books, already completed and it some of the best fantasy I have read, IMHO.
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https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/ ... ret-atwood

2017 100 bestselling books

Over 10% of them by David Walliams
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Boobs not Moobs wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/ ... ret-atwood

2017 100 bestselling books

Over 10% of them by David Walliams
Is that the best selling UK books?

I am currently reading Martin Meridith's The Fate of Africa. What depressing reading.
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Just finished Patchwork man by DB Martin. Looking forward to the next
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A standing ovation from me for Golden Hill, by Francis Spufford. Beautifully written story of an English visitor to New York in 1746, great plotting, historical detail and literary pastiche. Finished it in two days, absolutely outstanding.
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Fangle wrote:
Boobs not Moobs wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/ ... ret-atwood

2017 100 bestselling books

Over 10% of them by David Walliams
Is that the best selling UK books?

I am currently reading Martin Meridith's The Fate of Africa. What depressing reading.
Truly depressing reading.

On the first book in the Three Body Problem by Cixin Liu. Pretty good so far although I think something(s) may have been lost in translation. Still, not too bad. Trying to get my daughter interested in the Artemis Fowl books.
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Man In Black wrote:
Floppykid wrote:Any good books on the Oligarchic lootfest that was Russia a couple decades ago?
Look for something called "Nothing is sacred and everything is possible" by Peter Pomerantsev. The title and author might be wrong but they are similar enough if you google them.
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His name is mud in Russia, but the brazenness of the villainy he describes is breathtaking.

I saw a mention of Patrick Leigh Fermor earlier. Anyone interested in his circle would enjoy Outlandish Knight, a biography of Steven Runciman by Minoo Dinshaw. Very entertaining stories of amateur espionage in the Balkans and Levant in the war involving PLF, among many other delights.
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Ramming Speed wrote:
Man In Black wrote:
Floppykid wrote:Any good books on the Oligarchic lootfest that was Russia a couple decades ago?
Look for something called "Nothing is sacred and everything is possible" by Peter Pomerantsev. The title and author might be wrong but they are similar enough if you google them.
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Try also...Image

His name is mud in Russia, but the brazenness of the villainy he describes is breathtaking.
A shining endorsement. :thumbup:
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Just finished this, and it was absolutely fantastic. A little sympathetic to the Bolsheviks, but who isn't? Having said that, he doesn't hesitate to criticise them either. Extremely readable, and really captures the chaos of 1917.

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Mieville is a top notch writer. Really liked the one with two cities (forget the name)
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Wilderbeast wrote:Mieville is a top notch writer. Really liked the one with two cities (forget the name)
The City and the City??? Didn't realise until now that 1. Mieville did anything other than sci-fi/fantasy and that he was male.
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flaggETERNAL wrote:
Wilderbeast wrote:Mieville is a top notch writer. Really liked the one with two cities (forget the name)
The City and the City??? Didn't realise until now that 1. Mieville did anything other than sci-fi/fantasy and that he was male.

You'd like this one I reckon
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Read 'all the light we cannot see' over Christmas

Excellent
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Redsfan wrote:Just finished this, and it was absolutely fantastic. A little sympathetic to the Bolsheviks, but who isn't? Having said that, he doesn't hesitate to criticise them either. Extremely readable, and really captures the chaos of 1917.

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Non-fiction?

City and the City certainly has socialist undertones.
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Pat the Ex Mat wrote: Non-fiction?

City and the City certainly has socialist undertones.
Yep, it’s non-fiction. He’s really emphasised the narrative though, so I found it hard to put down (well, turn off in my case). Would love to see him tackle the Russian civil war in a similar fashion. It’s quite well researched, too.

I actually listened to it after I noticed I could get it from a free trial on Audible. Because it moves at a fast pace, and is only really dealing with a year or so of history, it translate to audiobook really well.
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Nice, that will sequel really well from the book I was reading on the previous page!
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On the subject of China Mieville I'm finding Embassytown incredibly hard-going, to the point that I've put it to one side. The conceit's brilliant but I can't recall a story where I gave so little of a fuck about the characters or the consequences of the narrative.
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