England Vs Wales B - OFFICIAL Six Nations Match Thread

P in VG · Post by **P in VG** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:48 pm

Mick Mannock wrote:
P in VG wrote:
Double wrote:
Probably the powder-puff backrow.

Putting in illegal hits? - Patchell is a big boy anyway, I'm sure he can handle it.....unlike your 10
Nothing illegal about that. That would flatten Patchell too

Lawes is a mouth-breathing cheap-shot merchant

Mick Mannock · Post by **Mick Mannock** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:49 pm

P in VG wrote:
Mick Mannock wrote:
P in VG wrote:
Double wrote:
Probably the powder-puff backrow.

Putting in illegal hits? - Patchell is a big boy anyway, I'm sure he can handle it.....unlike your 10
Nothing illegal about that. That would flatten Patchell too
Lawes is a mouth-breathing cheap-shot merchant

Thankfully not ginger

fatcat · Post by **fatcat** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:49 pm

P in VG wrote:
Mick Mannock wrote:
P in VG wrote:
Double wrote:
Probably the powder-puff backrow.

Putting in illegal hits? - Patchell is a big boy anyway, I'm sure he can handle it.....unlike your 10
Nothing illegal about that. That would flatten Patchell too
Lawes is a mouth-breathing cheap-shot merchant

'Leading with the shoulder'

What a pillock!

Mick Mannock · Post by **Mick Mannock** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:00 pm

No you fvcking dickhead, what the fans want to see is a win

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/ ... ugby-union

Little more than an hour after the England head coach, Eddie Jones, had made a number of unflattering observations about Wales, their scrum coach Robin McBryde said: “I think we have a duty to the paying public – the price of tickets at Twickenham is quite high so the last thing [fans] want to see is a scrum-fest. We are comfortable with our attacking threats.”

C69 · Post by **C69** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:02 pm

Mick Mannock wrote:No you fvcking dickhead, what the fans want to see is a win

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/ ... ugby-union

Little more than an hour after the England head coach, Eddie Jones, had made a number of unflattering observations about Wales, their scrum coach Robin McBryde said: “I think we have a duty to the paying public – the price of tickets at Twickenham is quite high so the last thing [fans] want to see is a scrum-fest. We are comfortable with our attacking threats.”

I'd just like a good game with Rugby being the winner.

Jeff the Bear · Post by **Jeff the Bear** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:10 pm

The daft thing about Eddie's comments is, he's essentially told Wales that Joseph is going to be used an an outside shooter...and this is what happens when you have obvious outside shooters:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq3zOS5neJE&t=10m56s

You just go deeper and around!

Which incidentally is how your mum likes it as well.

cubby boi · Post by **cubby boi** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:11 pm

Anyone got that gif of Scott Williams man handling Lawes, stripping the ball off him and running in for the match winning try in Twickers?

YOYO · Post by **YOYO** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:24 pm

As a 3rd choice OH Patchell is not bad at all. He’s a skilful creative 10, and a fairly wirey lad. Not sure what his defence is like though. Experience could also go against him against England.

C69 · Post by **C69** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:27 pm

YOYO wrote:As a 3rd choice OH Patchell is not bad at all. He’s a skilful creative 10, and a fairly wirey lad. Not sure what his defence is like though. Experience could also go against him against England.

He is not a great defender, prone to interceptions and not great when a game needs control
Apart from that he is great

MaccTaff · Post by **MaccTaff** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:28 pm

Patchell doesn't seem to lack for confidence though, which he will find useful on Saturday.

Jeff the Bear · Post by **Jeff the Bear** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:29 pm

c69 wrote:
YOYO wrote:As a 3rd choice OH Patchell is not bad at all. He’s a skilful creative 10, and a fairly wirey lad. Not sure what his defence is like though. Experience could also go against him against England.
He is not a great defender, prone to interceptions and not great when a game needs control
Apart from that he is great

At some point he has to grow up. As noted he isn't a great defender, but he's a relatively big lad. I much prefer him defending at 10 than at 15. If Wales can compress the midfield, as is their usual tactic, then I don't think anyone is going directly through/over Patchell...his problems are more centred around making tackles when someones got outside of his shoulder.

Plato'sCave · Post by **Plato'sCave** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:35 pm

cubby boi wrote:Anyone got that gif of Scott Williams man handling Lawes, stripping the ball off him and running in for the match winning try in Twickers?

Jeff the Bear · Post by **Jeff the Bear** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:45 pm

Remember when Scott William had genuine pace.

MaccTaff · Post by **MaccTaff** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:45 pm

Plato'sCave wrote:
cubby boi wrote:Anyone got that gif of Scott Williams man handling Lawes, stripping the ball off him and running in for the match winning try in Twickers?

The bounce of the ball.

Plato'sCave · Post by **Plato'sCave** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:47 pm

MaccTaff wrote:
Plato'sCave wrote:
cubby boi wrote:Anyone got that gif of Scott Williams man handling Lawes, stripping the ball off him and running in for the match winning try in Twickers?

The bounce of the ball.

Bizarre moment. It’s their ball, pressuring hard and Scotty just decides, right, fudge everyone else I want a try.

MaccTaff · Post by **MaccTaff** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:49 pm

Plato'sCave wrote:
MaccTaff wrote:
Plato'sCave wrote:
cubby boi wrote:Anyone got that gif of Scott Williams man handling Lawes, stripping the ball off him and running in for the match winning try in Twickers?

The bounce of the ball.

Bizarre moment. It’s their ball, pressuring hard and Scotty just decides, right, fudge everyone else I want a try.

For a very quick guy, Tom Croft just looked as though he was running through treacle!

You're right though - sneeze, look up and youd wonder what the fudge had just happened.

mr flaps · Post by **mr flaps** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:52 pm

P in VG wrote:
A5D5E5 wrote:
I'm not sure it was penalised was it?
So what if he wasn't? - it's still illegal = high, late & leading with the shoulder

Not according to Owens.

Anonymous 1 · Post by **Anonymous 1** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:54 pm

Jeff the Bear wrote:The daft thing about Eddie's comments is, he's essentially told Wales that Joseph is going to be used an an outside shooter.

Would you like to buy a bridge

happyhooker · Post by **happyhooker** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:05 pm

I know I'm late to this, but I would like to add my mockery to the 'leading with the shoulder' remark

Clive Simms · Post by **Clive Simms** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:10 pm

I'm not worried by England anymore. Their national team hasn't played well for a very long time and their clubs have been performing woefully in Europe. Jonathan Joseph made negative yards carrying against these two centres last month and Anthony Watson got sidestepped by a lock for a try. George Ford is flaky and no Vunipola reduces their carrying threat by 59%

Advantage Wales

Margin_Walker · Post by **Margin_Walker** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:10 pm

Clive Simms wrote:I'm not worried by England anymore. Their national team hasn't played well for a very long time and their clubs have been performing woefully in Europe. Jamie Joseph made negative yards carrying against these two centres last month and Anthony Watson got sidestepped by a lock for a try. George Ford is flaky and no Vunipola reduces their carrying threat by 59%

Advantage Wales

Jamie Joseph's best days are behind him tbf

Clive Simms · Post by **Clive Simms** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:11 pm

Margin_Walker wrote:
Clive Simms wrote:I'm not worried by England anymore. Their national team hasn't played well for a very long time and their clubs have been performing woefully in Europe. Jamie Joseph made negative yards carrying against these two centres last month and Anthony Watson got sidestepped by a lock for a try. George Ford is flaky and no Vunipola reduces their carrying threat by 59%

Advantage Wales
Jamie Joseph's best days are behind him tbf

Shit. Too late editing

happyhooker · Post by **happyhooker** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:12 pm

Margin_Walker wrote:
Clive Simms wrote:I'm not worried by England anymore. Their national team hasn't played well for a very long time and their clubs have been performing woefully in Europe. Jamie Joseph made negative yards carrying against these two centres last month and Anthony Watson got sidestepped by a lock for a try. George Ford is flaky and no Vunipola reduces their carrying threat by 59%

Advantage Wales
Jamie Joseph's best days are behind him tbf

I think I'd probably prefer kyran bracken on the bench than wrigglesworth even now

P in VG · Post by **P in VG** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:13 pm

happyhooker wrote:I know I'm late to this, but I would like to add my mockery to the 'leading with the shoulder' remark

I meant that it was high & more akin to a shoulder charge

Clive Simms · Post by **Clive Simms** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:15 pm

Does anyone actually give a toss to what the clowns of these two head coaches say anymore. It's all total bullshit

A5D5E5 · Post by **A5D5E5** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:19 pm

P in VG wrote:
happyhooker wrote:I know I'm late to this, but I would like to add my mockery to the 'leading with the shoulder' remark

I meant that it was high & more akin to a shoulder charge

No, it was definitely a flying Kung-fu kick to the head.

The Man Without Fear · Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:21 pm

c69 wrote:
Mick Mannock wrote:No you fvcking dickhead, what the fans want to see is a win

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/ ... ugby-union

Little more than an hour after the England head coach, Eddie Jones, had made a number of unflattering observations about Wales, their scrum coach Robin McBryde said: “I think we have a duty to the paying public – the price of tickets at Twickenham is quite high so the last thing [fans] want to see is a scrum-fest. We are comfortable with our attacking threats.”
I'd just like a good game with Rugby being the winner.

Lies make baby Robin cry.

Plato'sCave · Post by **Plato'sCave** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:23 pm

Clive Simms wrote:Does anyone actually give a toss to what the clowns of these two head coaches say anymore. It's all total bullshit

Rome is the mob

croyals · Post by **croyals** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:50 pm

I assume I'm not the only who has the nerves starting to hit? Always a long old week.

Jeff the Bear · Post by **Jeff the Bear** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:51 pm

Anonymous. wrote:
Jeff the Bear wrote:The daft thing about Eddie's comments is, he's essentially told Wales that Joseph is going to be used an an outside shooter.
Would you like to buy a bridge

I'm not convinced it's a double bluff. Essentially, Eddie is right in that the way to counter a front foot ball fly half that likes to throw flat passes on the gainline is to rapidly close the umbrella on him from outside to in. I'd be amazed if that isn't going to be England's defensive tactic.

Wendigo7 · Post by **Wendigo7** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 10:57 pm

croyals wrote:I assume I'm not the only who has the nerves starting to hit? Always a long old week.

Been excited all week.

It's 6 nations, you gotta love it.

Madness · Post by **Madness** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:15 pm

Jeff the Bear wrote:
Anonymous. wrote:
Jeff the Bear wrote:The daft thing about Eddie's comments is, he's essentially told Wales that Joseph is going to be used an an outside shooter.
Would you like to buy a bridge
I'm not convinced it's a double bluff. Essentially, Eddie is right in that the way to counter a front foot ball fly half that likes to throw flat passes on the gainline is to rapidly close the umbrella on him from outside to in. I'd be amazed if that isn't going to be England's defensive tactic.

But is it the old you know, that we know, that you know, that we know, that you know double triple bluff????

ovalball · Post by **ovalball** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:15 pm

c69 wrote:
bessantj wrote:
De Damp Slaphead wrote:Latest betting is England 6/1 on, Wales 4/1 against. The bookies are usually right..
They do. I think most of the posts in this thread also reflect that.
The Bookies are almost always right. I predict a big win for the Saes.

Yeah, just like in the 2015 RWC

C69 · Post by **C69** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:18 pm

ovalball wrote:
c69 wrote:
bessantj wrote:
De Damp Slaphead wrote:Latest betting is England 6/1 on, Wales 4/1 against. The bookies are usually right..
They do. I think most of the posts in this thread also reflect that.
The Bookies are almost always right. I predict a big win for the Saes.
Yeah, just like in the 2015 RWC

"almost"

fatcat · Post by **fatcat** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:24 pm

Just got a ticket for the game.

Andalu · Post by **Andalu** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:27 pm

What's the weather looking like?

ovalball · Post by **ovalball** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:29 pm

Andalu wrote:What's the weather looking like?

A bit wet.

Mick Mannock · Post by **Mick Mannock** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:29 pm

Andalu wrote:What's the weather looking like?

A bit dark at the moment

Miguel Indurain · Post by **Miguel Indurain** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:32 pm

I'm looking forward to this match. After Ireland/England, this is my favourite fixture in every 6N's championship.

C'mon Wales (sorry Granny, but I can't shout for the country of your birth).

Masterji · Post by **Masterji** » Thu Feb 08, 2018 11:45 pm

I see England scoring 35-40 points and the Welsh barely registering.

Who is going to win?