Case closed. Independent Top-Level Independent referee confirms that AWJ is a consummate gent to deal with and that Eddie is a hypocritical plum who needs to wind his neck in.MaccTaff wrote:ExcellentDai another day wrote:All round top guy and one of the great referees, Jonathan Kaplan, takes a dislike to the comments made by Eddie Jones.
"I completely disagree with Eddie Jones in his accusation that Alun Wyn Jones “intimidated” referee Pascal Gauzere during Saturday’s game with Scotland.
I find Jones’s argument to be one-eyed at best, and plain wrong at worst. To my mind there is very little in that incident, and I am extremely surprised the England head coach has said what he has.
As a referee you are always keen to encourage dialogue with players, particularly the leaders of a team at international level. Alun Wyn was the Wales captain on Saturday and, as such, Pascal would have been speaking to him on a regular basis.
That means that if Scotland scored a try and Alun Wyn believes it merits another look from the officials then he can try to make that point – as long as he does so in a respectful fashion.
World Rugby would like their referees to be in sole control of this process but, if we are approached by a captain in the correct manner in the immediate aftermath of an incident, then we will often listen to them as it is in everyone’s benefit to get the big decisions right.
Looking at the conversation Alun Wyn had with Pascal I see absolutely no sign of disrespect, although when he stands in the way of the kicker that is probably a bit of gamesmanship as he tries to make his point – he clearly knows the try cannot be reviewed if the conversion has been taken.
However, once Pascal has made it clear the try is good, Alun Wyn walks away immediately.
When looking at this incident it is important to bear in mind that a lot has been made recently of the fact players need to show officials more respect, and I agree with World Rugby that we have a culture that needs to be maintained. While doing so it is also important that we don’t over-sanitise the lines of communication and refuse to allow leaders to express themselves.
I do wonder why Eddie never mentioned anything on this topic when Owen Farrell repeatedly questioned referee Ben O’Keefe during England’s win over Australia in November.
O’Keefe reviewed and eventually disallowed an Australian try after Farrell’s constant intervention and, if anything, that incident was arguably worse than what Jones is accusing the Welsh captain of – even if the right decision was reached in the end.
I myself have refereed Alun Wyn a number of times and did not have a single issue with him as a leader of his group. He may have disagreed with me on occasion but I had absolutely no problem with that as long as it did not tip over into disrespect or abuse. This incident was neither disrespectful or abusive, and I doubt very much it was intimidating for Pascal – and I would advise the England coach to look closer to home before pointing fingers at others"
Doesn't get more conclusive than that.