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Seneca of the Night wrote:
Kiwias wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:This one is a classic (how much longer is Bezos going to let this go on - I've seen no indications he's as personally bonkers as the stuff the wapo is coming up with lately) :


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Thanks for not raping us, all you ‘good men.’ But it’s not enough.

A flood of rage is rushing through women’s brains. Why can’t men organize to change themselves?



I yelled at my husband last night. Not pick-up-your-socks yell. Not how-could-you-ignore-that-red-light yell. This was real yelling. This was 30 minutes of from-the-gut yelling. Triggered by a small, thoughtless, dismissive, annoyed, patronizing comment. Really small. A micro-wave that triggered a hurricane. I blew. Hard and fast. And it terrified me. I’m still terrified by what I felt and what I said. I am almost 70 years old. I am a grandmother. Yet in that roiling moment, screaming at my husband as if he represented every clueless male on the planet (and I every angry woman of 2018), I announced that I hate all men and wish all men were dead. If one of my grandchildren yelled something that ridiculous, I’d have to stifle a laugh.

My husband of 50 years did not have to stifle a laugh. He took it dead seriously. He did not defend his remark, he did not defend men. He sat, hunched and hurt, and he listened. For a moment, it occurred to me to be grateful that I’m married to a man who will listen to a woman. The winds calmed ever so slightly in that moment. And then the storm surge welled up in me as I realized the pathetic impotence of nice men’s plan to rebuild the wreckage by listening to women. As my rage rushed through the streets of my mind, toppling every memory of every good thing my husband has ever done (and there are scores of memories), I said the meanest thing I’ve ever said to him: Don’t you dare sit there and sympathetically promise to change. Don’t say you will stop yourself before you blurt out some impatient, annoyed, controlling remark. No, I said, you can’t change. You are unable to change. You don’t have the skills and you won’t do it. You, I said, are one of the good men. You respect women, you believe in women, you like women, you don’t hit women or rape women or in any way abuse women. You have applauded and funded feminism for a half-century. You are one of the good men. And you cannot change. You can listen all you want, but that will not create one iota of change.

In the centuries of feminist movements that have washed up and away, good men have not once organized their own mass movement to change themselves and their sons or to attack the mean-spirited, teasing, punching thing that passes for male culture. Not once. Bastards. Don’t listen to me. Listen to each other. Talk to each other. Earn your power for once.

The gender war that has broken out in this country is flooding all our houses. It’s rising on the torrent of memories that every woman has. Those memories have come loose from the attic and the basement where we’ve stashed them. They are floating all around us and there is no place left to store them out of sight. Not just memories of sexual abuse. Memories of being dismissed, disdained, distrusted. Memories of having to endure put-downs at the office, catcalls in the parking lot, barked orders at a dinner party. And, for some reason, the most chilling memory of all, the one Christine Blasey Ford called up and that we all recognized: the laughter.


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Santa wrote::lol: So in response he immediately takes one data point and makes it stand for the set. What a putdown. What a f**king idiot. :lol:

Ratemyselfstyledprofessor.com should be an included source
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I do enjoy seeing the orange shitgibbonists become very upset when they get called on their bullshit. Even more amusing is when they have wt as their wingman!! :lol: :lol:
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Hong Kong wrote:I do enjoy seeing the orange shitgibbonists become very upset when they get called on their bullshit. Even more amusing is when they have wt as their wingman!! :lol: :lol:
Classic First year stuff.
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And to be fair, the fact that exports to the US grew at about the same rate as China’s exports to the rest of the world hints that Trump’s tariffs had some impact, according to a note from Julian Evans-Pritchard, economist at Capital Economics.
Cant you read your own link? The US$ increase will offset some of the tariff increase no doubt but 20 years of offshoring wont change that quick.
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shanky wrote:
Santa wrote::lol: So in response he immediately takes one data point and makes it stand for the set. What a putdown. What a f**king idiot. :lol:

Ratemyselfstyledprofessor.com should be an included source
Yes, I'd forgotten that one.
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FairWeather_Aussie wrote:Is this thread still going? What is the current theme, Kavanaugh being a bit rapey when he was younger and a serial liar when under oath when older, or something else? Or just personal attacks, that would be better?
You'd think so.

However, the loudest and most vocal on here are pushing their conviction that CBF is a liar who is quite happy to ruin an innocent man's life with her baseless and partisan accusations. The real victims here are the men and boys who have to live with these types of accusations. If they weren't lies, why didn't she report them at the time?

But yes, the insults have been flowing thick and fast; those who don't support Trump and his Supreme Court pick are morons, libtards, fckwits and stupid cvnts.
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Rinkals wrote:
FairWeather_Aussie wrote:Is this thread still going? What is the current theme, Kavanaugh being a bit rapey when he was younger and a serial liar when under oath when older, or something else? Or just personal attacks, that would be better?
You'd think so.

However, the loudest and most vocal on here are pushing their conviction that CBF is a liar who is quite happy to ruin an innocent man's life with her baseless and partisan accusations. The real victims here are the men and boys who have to live with these types of accusations. If they weren't lies, why didn't she report them at the time?

But yes, the insults have been flowing thick and fast; those who don't support Trump and his Supreme Court pick are morons, libtards, fckwits and stupid cvnts.
Try looking in the mirror occasionally.
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Looks like James Mattis has disagreed with Donny one time too often.

"I think he's sort of a Democrat"
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Seneca of the Night wrote:Prayer for Trump:

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1051218565448261634
Nauseating.
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Seneca of the Night wrote:
Saint wrote:Looks like James Mattis has disagreed with Donny one time too often.

"I think he's sort of a Democrat"
Is he a Globalist?
He's anti Russia and pro NATO, which I think is the problem

Once upon a time that would have made him a Republican
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Seneca of the Night wrote:Prayer for Trump:

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1051218565448261634
I guess nobody can say Trump doesn't have a prayer anymore then.
Interesting timing, with the Saudi/ Khashoggi incident still unfolding and Turkey possibly being willing to share intel of what happened within a sovereign embassy within it's borders... wonder if the full story of the horse trading that will have taken place there will ever come out.
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Saint wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
Saint wrote:Looks like James Mattis has disagreed with Donny one time too often.

"I think he's sort of a Democrat"
Is he a Globalist?
He's anti Russia and pro NATO, which I think is the problem

Once upon a time that would have made him a Republican
One of the few adults left in the room.
What the hell caused Trump to call him 'sort of a Democrat?' That's a really, really odd thing to say.
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Turbogoat wrote:
Saint wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
Saint wrote:Looks like James Mattis has disagreed with Donny one time too often.

"I think he's sort of a Democrat"
Is he a Globalist?
He's anti Russia and pro NATO, which I think is the problem

Once upon a time that would have made him a Republican
One of the few adults left in the room.
What the hell caused Trump to call him 'sort of a Democrat?' That's a really, really odd thing to say.
Trump has been a Democrat. Not sure why you view it as an insult.
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zt1903 wrote:
Rinkals wrote:
FairWeather_Aussie wrote:Is this thread still going? What is the current theme, Kavanaugh being a bit rapey when he was younger and a serial liar when under oath when older, or something else? Or just personal attacks, that would be better?
You'd think so.

However, the loudest and most vocal on here are pushing their conviction that CBF is a liar who is quite happy to ruin an innocent man's life with her baseless and partisan accusations. The real victims here are the men and boys who have to live with these types of accusations. If they weren't lies, why didn't she report them at the time?

But yes, the insults have been flowing thick and fast; those who don't support Trump and his Supreme Court pick are morons, libtards, fckwits and stupid cvnts.
Try looking in the mirror occasionally.
Are you suggesting that I support Trump?

Or are you suggesting that I have called CBF a liar whose sole purpose in testifying is to ruin an innocent man and destroy his family?

Or are you suggesting that I indulge in ad hominem attacks? I do try to avoid copying Seneca's rhetoric concerning morons, fckwits and stupid cvnts, so I hope you aren't accusing me of that.
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Bowens wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:
Saint wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
Saint wrote:Looks like James Mattis has disagreed with Donny one time too often.

"I think he's sort of a Democrat"
Is he a Globalist?
He's anti Russia and pro NATO, which I think is the problem

Once upon a time that would have made him a Republican
One of the few adults left in the room.
What the hell caused Trump to call him 'sort of a Democrat?' That's a really, really odd thing to say.
Trump has been a Democrat. Not sure why you view it as an insult.
No, not necessarily an insult, just a really, really odd thing to say.
Trump isn't ever going to use 'sort of a Democrat' as a compliment of course, but it does show how he views independents.
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Turbogoat wrote:
Saint wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
Saint wrote:Looks like James Mattis has disagreed with Donny one time too often.

"I think he's sort of a Democrat"
Is he a Globalist?
He's anti Russia and pro NATO, which I think is the problem

Once upon a time that would have made him a Republican
One of the few adults left in the room.
What the hell caused Trump to call him 'sort of a Democrat?' That's a really, really odd thing to say.
CBS have explicitly asked him about Mattis leaving. Response was.
Well, I don't know. He hasn't told me that.

I have a very good relationship with him. I had lunch with him two days ago. I have a very good relationship with him. It could be that he is. I think he's sort of a Democrat, if you want to know the truth,

But General Mattis is a good guy. We get along very well. He may leave. I mean, at some point, everybody leaves. Everybody. People leave. That's Washington.
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He just can't ever give a short answer can he? There's a silence so he just has to fill it. It's where so many of his odd quotes come from.

The first line "Well I don't know. He hasn't told me that" was all he needed to say. All good, perfectly fine answer. But he just ploughs on....

No wonder his lawyers are so shit scared of him being questioned by Mueller.
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SNL Trump-Kanye skit been posted yet? It's not bad. :)

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status ... 7938023425
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That’s the worst Kanye impression I have seen. Jay Pharoah was way better.
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Bowens wrote:That’s the worst Kanye impression I have seen. Jay Pharoah was way better.
Yeah, I wasn't high on the Kanye. The "black me" part was funny tho.
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Turbogoat wrote:He just can't ever give a short answer can he? There's a silence so he just has to fill it. It's where so many of his odd quotes come from.

The first line "Well I don't know. He hasn't told me that" was all he needed to say. All good, perfectly fine answer. But he just ploughs on....

No wonder his lawyers are so shit scared of him being questioned by Mueller.
especially since, from what i've read about him, the one thing Mueller does really well is silence.
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pigaaaa wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:He just can't ever give a short answer can he? There's a silence so he just has to fill it. It's where so many of his odd quotes come from.

The first line "Well I don't know. He hasn't told me that" was all he needed to say. All good, perfectly fine answer. But he just ploughs on....

No wonder his lawyers are so shit scared of him being questioned by Mueller.
especially since, from what i've read about him, the one thing Mueller does really well is silence.
It was quite telling to see FBI agents on the receiving end of the strategic silence. When both Comey and Strzok were being questioned by Congress, they'd often be given a question that they'd answer in one or two words. There'd then be an awkward silence that a less well prepared interviewee would generally feel obliged to fill, but they'd just sit and wait for Congress to move on to the next question.

It's surprising to see how susceptible Trump is to the strategic silence though, during one on one interviews or similar they can just sit back and let him fill in the silence with whatever ad lib he wants to add on to even well prepared answers. It's what's caused so many of his foot-in-mouth moments and opportunities for his haterz to snicker at ill-formed sentences and thoughts that he's simply used as filler so much of the time.
It's cheap copy, and a genuine distraction from more pressing issues, but makes for an easy headline. That's probably why none of his handlers have seen fit to coach him how to give short, succinct answers and enjoy the following silence, he makes such a good distraction from his own issues.
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It rather highlights a problem interviewing Trump with a view to prosecution if he rambles and bullshits as the norm
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piquant wrote:It rather highlights a problem interviewing Trump with a view to prosecution if he rambles and bullshits as the norm

They'd go into extra time for sure :lol:
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Turbogoat wrote:
piquant wrote:It rather highlights a problem interviewing Trump with a view to prosecution if he rambles and bullshits as the norm

They'd go into extra time for sure :lol:
Getting him to nail his colours to the mast whilst receiving legal advice would be problematic, and if he did seemingly admit to anything how would one know that was genuine?
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Turbogoat wrote:
Taranaki Snapper wrote:Image
:lol:
In most American hospitals, wearing your stethoscope round your neck is gonna get you being termed 'Med student', at best. Wearing one outside of your workplace? 'Actor'.
in fairness i think he was there to do El Doritto's physical exam and proclaim him the healthiest POTUS of all time with a body fat % = Christiano Ronaldo
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Turbogoat wrote:
Saint wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
Saint wrote:Looks like James Mattis has disagreed with Donny one time too often.

"I think he's sort of a Democrat"
Is he a Globalist?
He's anti Russia and pro NATO, which I think is the problem

Once upon a time that would have made him a Republican
One of the few adults left in the room.
What the hell caused Trump to call him 'sort of a Democrat?' That's a really, really odd thing to say.
didnt realize he was still there....must be a record
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Seneca of the Night wrote:Troll hunter, keeping us safe from bots:

https://edition-m.cnn.com/2018/08/13/po ... term=image
Got to admire a man for realising he was being lied to by the alt right and then doing something about it.
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Elizabeth Warren has released her DNA test, and yup she actually is part Native American.

Will Trump persist in calling her Pocahontas??
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Drumpf goes full Partridge:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/trump-han ... se-2018-10
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What. A. Twat.
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Rinkals wrote:
FairWeather_Aussie wrote:Is this thread still going? What is the current theme, Kavanaugh being a bit rapey when he was younger and a serial liar when under oath when older, or something else? Or just personal attacks, that would be better?
You'd think so.

However, the loudest and most vocal on here are pushing their conviction that CBF is a liar who is quite happy to ruin an innocent man's life with her baseless and partisan accusations. The real victims here are the men and boys who have to live with these types of accusations. If they weren't lies, why didn't she report them at the time?

But yes, the insults have been flowing thick and fast; those who don't support Trump and his Supreme Court pick are morons, libtards, fckwits and stupid cvnts
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What a bunch of BS...so typical from the libs/socialists who outnumber the rational people on this thread about 10/1 :lol:
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Turbogoat wrote:He just can't ever give a short answer can he? There's a silence so he just has to fill it. It's where so many of his odd quotes come from.

The first line "Well I don't know. He hasn't told me that" was all he needed to say. All good, perfectly fine answer. But he just ploughs on....

No wonder his lawyers are so shit scared of him being questioned by Mueller.
She asked a lot of "just answer yes or no" questions. That's BS. All she was trying to do was pin him into a corner...most of these questions do not have simplistic yes/no answers to them... :thumbdown:
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Turbogoat wrote:Elizabeth Warren has released her DNA test, and yup she actually is part Native American.

Will Trump persist in calling her Pocahontas??

Somebody said the old Voortrekkers were all part indigenous African. I am descended from them (the old Voortrekkers, and thus, by implication, also from the old indigenous Africans)

Does that mean The Don will start calling me uChaka, now ?

:lol: @ Warren. Trump goaded her into it ...
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Short Man Syndrome wrote:Drumpf goes full Partridge:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/trump-han ... se-2018-10
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What. A. Twat.
Not that the lamestream media will tell you - but his poll numbers are better than all those guys combined, believe me!
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saffer13 wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:He just can't ever give a short answer can he? There's a silence so he just has to fill it. It's where so many of his odd quotes come from.

The first line "Well I don't know. He hasn't told me that" was all he needed to say. All good, perfectly fine answer. But he just ploughs on....

No wonder his lawyers are so shit scared of him being questioned by Mueller.
She asked a lot of "just answer yes or no" questions. That's BS. All she was trying to do was pin him into a corner...most of these questions do not have simplistic yes/no answers to them... :thumbdown:

Most reporters are quite deliberate with their use of the strategic silence, they actually want their subject to run their mouth. Set them up with a series of short answer only questions, then let the floodgates open.
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Turbogoat wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:He just can't ever give a short answer can he? There's a silence so he just has to fill it. It's where so many of his odd quotes come from.

The first line "Well I don't know. He hasn't told me that" was all he needed to say. All good, perfectly fine answer. But he just ploughs on....

No wonder his lawyers are so shit scared of him being questioned by Mueller.
She asked a lot of "just answer yes or no" questions. That's BS. All she was trying to do was pin him into a corner...most of these questions do not have simplistic yes/no answers to them... :thumbdown:
Most reporters are quite deliberate with their use of the strategic silence, they actually want their subject to run their mouth. Set them up with a series of short answer only questions, then let the floodgates open.
Not in this case. She was deliberate in her yes/no questions.
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saffer13 wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:He just can't ever give a short answer can he? There's a silence so he just has to fill it. It's where so many of his odd quotes come from.

The first line "Well I don't know. He hasn't told me that" was all he needed to say. All good, perfectly fine answer. But he just ploughs on....

No wonder his lawyers are so shit scared of him being questioned by Mueller.
She asked a lot of "just answer yes or no" questions. That's BS. All she was trying to do was pin him into a corner...most of these questions do not have simplistic yes/no answers to them... :thumbdown:
Most reporters are quite deliberate with their use of the strategic silence, they actually want their subject to run their mouth. Set them up with a series of short answer only questions, then let the floodgates open.
Not in this case. She was deliberate in her yes/no questions.
I'm sure she was. That's kinda the point.
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And Trump was deliberate in giving a "Ja, well, no, fine, I dunno but I reckon it will all come right, hopefully, or maybe it won't" answer. He's been at it for fifty years ...
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