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https://edition-m.cnn.com/2018/08/13/po ... term=image


Got to admire a man for realising he was being lied to by the alt right and then doing something about it.


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Elizabeth Warren has released her DNA test, and yup she actually is part Native American.

Will Trump persist in calling her Pocahontas??


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Drumpf goes full Partridge:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/trump-han ... se-2018-10

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What. A. Twat.


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Rinkals wrote:
FairWeather_Aussie wrote:
Is this thread still going? What is the current theme, Kavanaugh being a bit rapey when he was younger and a serial liar when under oath when older, or something else? Or just personal attacks, that would be better?

You'd think so.

However, the loudest and most vocal on here are pushing their conviction that CBF is a liar who is quite happy to ruin an innocent man's life with her baseless and partisan accusations. The real victims here are the men and boys who have to live with these types of accusations. If they weren't lies, why didn't she report them at the time?

But yes, the insults have been flowing thick and fast; those who don't support Trump and his Supreme Court pick are morons, libtards, fckwits and stupid cvnts
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What a bunch of BS...so typical from the libs/socialists who outnumber the rational people on this thread about 10/1 :lol:


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He just can't ever give a short answer can he? There's a silence so he just has to fill it. It's where so many of his odd quotes come from.

The first line "Well I don't know. He hasn't told me that" was all he needed to say. All good, perfectly fine answer. But he just ploughs on....

No wonder his lawyers are so shit scared of him being questioned by Mueller.

She asked a lot of "just answer yes or no" questions. That's BS. All she was trying to do was pin him into a corner...most of these questions do not have simplistic yes/no answers to them... :thumbdown:


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Elizabeth Warren has released her DNA test, and yup she actually is part Native American.

Will Trump persist in calling her Pocahontas??



Somebody said the old Voortrekkers were all part indigenous African. I am descended from them (the old Voortrekkers, and thus, by implication, also from the old indigenous Africans)

Does that mean The Don will start calling me uChaka, now ?

:lol: @ Warren. Trump goaded her into it ...


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Drumpf goes full Partridge:

http://uk.businessinsider.com/trump-han ... se-2018-10

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What. A. Twat.


Not that the lamestream media will tell you - but his poll numbers are better than all those guys combined, believe me!


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saffer13 wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:
He just can't ever give a short answer can he? There's a silence so he just has to fill it. It's where so many of his odd quotes come from.

The first line "Well I don't know. He hasn't told me that" was all he needed to say. All good, perfectly fine answer. But he just ploughs on....

No wonder his lawyers are so shit scared of him being questioned by Mueller.

She asked a lot of "just answer yes or no" questions. That's BS. All she was trying to do was pin him into a corner...most of these questions do not have simplistic yes/no answers to them... :thumbdown:



Most reporters are quite deliberate with their use of the strategic silence, they actually want their subject to run their mouth. Set them up with a series of short answer only questions, then let the floodgates open.


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Turbogoat wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:
He just can't ever give a short answer can he? There's a silence so he just has to fill it. It's where so many of his odd quotes come from.

The first line "Well I don't know. He hasn't told me that" was all he needed to say. All good, perfectly fine answer. But he just ploughs on....

No wonder his lawyers are so shit scared of him being questioned by Mueller.

She asked a lot of "just answer yes or no" questions. That's BS. All she was trying to do was pin him into a corner...most of these questions do not have simplistic yes/no answers to them... :thumbdown:


Most reporters are quite deliberate with their use of the strategic silence, they actually want their subject to run their mouth. Set them up with a series of short answer only questions, then let the floodgates open.

Not in this case. She was deliberate in her yes/no questions.


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saffer13 wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:
He just can't ever give a short answer can he? There's a silence so he just has to fill it. It's where so many of his odd quotes come from.

The first line "Well I don't know. He hasn't told me that" was all he needed to say. All good, perfectly fine answer. But he just ploughs on....

No wonder his lawyers are so shit scared of him being questioned by Mueller.

She asked a lot of "just answer yes or no" questions. That's BS. All she was trying to do was pin him into a corner...most of these questions do not have simplistic yes/no answers to them... :thumbdown:


Most reporters are quite deliberate with their use of the strategic silence, they actually want their subject to run their mouth. Set them up with a series of short answer only questions, then let the floodgates open.

Not in this case. She was deliberate in her yes/no questions.


I'm sure she was. That's kinda the point.


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And Trump was deliberate in giving a "Ja, well, no, fine, I dunno but I reckon it will all come right, hopefully, or maybe it won't" answer. He's been at it for fifty years ...


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Interesting (™ Santa) piece on Trump's economic policies, such as they are:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/swamp-chronicles/will-trumponomics-collapse?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral

While I despise Trump as a narcissistic conman and crook, the economic health of the US implies that, economically at least, he is doing pretty well. Of course, Trump is right when he talks about the US' trading power; it's a buyer's market and the US is the biggest market on the planet, so playing hardball and driving a particularly hard bargain is obviously going to be successful, even if using ludicrous security concerns to shaft the Canadians is not the sort of behaviour designed to win friends.

And it's quite clear that Trump views other Nations as business competitors and rivals, there to be bilked, short-changed and swindled in any way necessary to turn a quick buck.

Certainly, China has a history of rampant disregard for IP and a reputation for questionable economic practices, but Trump has turned his trade war guns on erstwhile allies as well.

Anyway, FTA:

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Trumponomics is not a steady state. It is, by its nature, constant turmoil.

This is, of course, deeply self-serving. Trump gets to enrich his cronies and, one supposes, himself. He gets to distract the media and the public when there is unfavorable news about him. But I believe it is not right to assume that Trump—in his own experience—is solely cynical. His mentality, apparently, allows him to pay little heed to the forces leading him to prefer one action over another. Is he pitching Adelson and attacking the Fed because he wants to help himself or because it’s good for America? Who cares? They’re the same. If he wants to do it, it’s good for America, then it’s good for Trump, and vice versa.

Trump is no longer a mystery. He is among the most transparent of public figures. The mystery is that it all works. The stock market, even with this week’s drop, has been at record highs. Unemployment is at record lows. Consumer and business confidence is robust. How can this be? According to basic economic theory, businesspeople should look at this chaos and realize it is unsustainable.

G.O.P. politicians and some sympathetic economists argue that the tax cuts and deregulation are spurring business. But there is one idea that Keynesians and Chicago School thinkers have long agreed upon: It is always possible to give an economy a sugar rush, a short-term boost, by flushing huge amounts of government money through the system. One can do this through tax cuts or government spending. Or, in a sense, by weakening regulation. (When the government removes consumer protections, it makes it cheaper for banks to do business and operates like a tax cut or a subsidy.) This creates a promise of near-term profits for companies, which leads to higher stock prices, which can lead to business expansion and new hiring. The newly employed buy more things, increasing the rate of expansion. It can be exciting and self-reinforcing.


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saffer13 wrote:
Rinkals wrote:
FairWeather_Aussie wrote:
Is this thread still going? What is the current theme, Kavanaugh being a bit rapey when he was younger and a serial liar when under oath when older, or something else? Or just personal attacks, that would be better?

You'd think so.

However, the loudest and most vocal on here are pushing their conviction that CBF is a liar who is quite happy to ruin an innocent man's life with her baseless and partisan accusations. The real victims here are the men and boys who have to live with these types of accusations. If they weren't lies, why didn't she report them at the time?

But yes, the insults have been flowing thick and fast; those who don't support Trump and his Supreme Court pick are morons, libtards, fckwits and stupid cvnts
.

What a bunch of BS...so typical from the libs/socialists who outnumber the rational people on this thread about 10/1 :lol:


Because rational people normally make up 1/10th of a discussion.

Less rational and more national. ist


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houtkabouter wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
Rinkals wrote:
FairWeather_Aussie wrote:
Is this thread still going? What is the current theme, Kavanaugh being a bit rapey when he was younger and a serial liar when under oath when older, or something else? Or just personal attacks, that would be better?

You'd think so.

However, the loudest and most vocal on here are pushing their conviction that CBF is a liar who is quite happy to ruin an innocent man's life with her baseless and partisan accusations. The real victims here are the men and boys who have to live with these types of accusations. If they weren't lies, why didn't she report them at the time?

But yes, the insults have been flowing thick and fast; those who don't support Trump and his Supreme Court pick are morons, libtards, fckwits and stupid cvnts
.

What a bunch of BS...so typical from the libs/socialists who outnumber the rational people on this thread about 10/1 :lol:


Because rational people normally make up 1/10th of a discussion.

Less rational and more national. ist

Thanks, I didn't see Yank's comment.

The insults I've referred to have all been posted by Seneca. In contrast, I can't remember any retaliatory insults returned and in the main Trump's detractors have been a lot less inclined to resort to that sort of invective.


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Just spoke to the King of Saudi Arabia who denies any knowledge of whatever may have happened “to our Saudi Arabian citizen.” He said that they are working closely with Turkey to find answer. I am immediately sending our Secretary of State to meet with King!


I don't see any reason why it WOULD be [insert authoritarian dictatorship here].


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Seneca of the Night wrote:
Rinkals wrote:
Interesting (™ Santa) piece on Trump's economic policies, such as they are:

https://www.newyorker.com/news/swamp-chronicles/will-trumponomics-collapse?utm_source=quora&utm_medium=referral

While I despise Trump as a narcissistic conman and crook, the economic health of the US implies that, economically at least, he is doing pretty well. Of course, Trump is right when he talks about the US' trading power; it's a buyer's market and the US is the biggest market on the planet, so playing hardball and driving a particularly hard bargain is obviously going to be successful, even if using ludicrous security concerns to shaft the Canadians is not the sort of behaviour designed to win friends.

And it's quite clear that Trump views other Nations as business competitors and rivals, there to be bilked, short-changed and swindled in any way necessary to turn a quick buck.

Certainly, China has a history of rampant disregard for IP and a reputation for questionable economic practices, but Trump has turned his trade war guns on erstwhile allies as well.

Anyway, FTA:

Quote:
Trumponomics is not a steady state. It is, by its nature, constant turmoil.

This is, of course, deeply self-serving. Trump gets to enrich his cronies and, one supposes, himself. He gets to distract the media and the public when there is unfavorable news about him. But I believe it is not right to assume that Trump—in his own experience—is solely cynical. His mentality, apparently, allows him to pay little heed to the forces leading him to prefer one action over another. Is he pitching Adelson and attacking the Fed because he wants to help himself or because it’s good for America? Who cares? They’re the same. If he wants to do it, it’s good for America, then it’s good for Trump, and vice versa.

Trump is no longer a mystery. He is among the most transparent of public figures. The mystery is that it all works. The stock market, even with this week’s drop, has been at record highs. Unemployment is at record lows. Consumer and business confidence is robust. How can this be? According to basic economic theory, businesspeople should look at this chaos and realize it is unsustainable.

G.O.P. politicians and some sympathetic economists argue that the tax cuts and deregulation are spurring business. But there is one idea that Keynesians and Chicago School thinkers have long agreed upon: It is always possible to give an economy a sugar rush, a short-term boost, by flushing huge amounts of government money through the system. One can do this through tax cuts or government spending. Or, in a sense, by weakening regulation. (When the government removes consumer protections, it makes it cheaper for banks to do business and operates like a tax cut or a subsidy.) This creates a promise of near-term profits for companies, which leads to higher stock prices, which can lead to business expansion and new hiring. The newly employed buy more things, increasing the rate of expansion. It can be exciting and self-reinforcing.


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According to basic economic theory, businesspeople should look at this chaos and realize it is unsustainable.


That's a pretty definitive judgment.

It is?

How so?


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Rinkals wrote:
houtkabouter wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
Rinkals wrote:
FairWeather_Aussie wrote:
Is this thread still going? What is the current theme, Kavanaugh being a bit rapey when he was younger and a serial liar when under oath when older, or something else? Or just personal attacks, that would be better?

You'd think so.

However, the loudest and most vocal on here are pushing their conviction that CBF is a liar who is quite happy to ruin an innocent man's life with her baseless and partisan accusations. The real victims here are the men and boys who have to live with these types of accusations. If they weren't lies, why didn't she report them at the time?

But yes, the insults have been flowing thick and fast; those who don't support Trump and his Supreme Court pick are morons, libtards, fckwits and stupid cvnts
.

What a bunch of BS...so typical from the libs/socialists who outnumber the rational people on this thread about 10/1 :lol:


Because rational people normally make up 1/10th of a discussion.

Less rational and more national. ist

Thanks, I didn't see Yank's comment.

The insults I've referred to have all been posted by Seneca. In contrast, I can't remember any retaliatory insults returned and in the main Trump's detractors have been a lot less inclined to resort to that sort of invective.


Rinkals wrote:
Wilson's Toffee wrote:
Anything that runs contrary to one's own opinion should be considered fake news. That bar was long set by the libs.


You're the c unt who quotes the Onion as a serious resource., just to counter that little bit of fiction.


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Santa wrote:
Rinkals wrote:
houtkabouter wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
Rinkals wrote:
You'd think so.

However, the loudest and most vocal on here are pushing their conviction that CBF is a liar who is quite happy to ruin an innocent man's life with her baseless and partisan accusations. The real victims here are the men and boys who have to live with these types of accusations. If they weren't lies, why didn't she report them at the time?

But yes, the insults have been flowing thick and fast; those who don't support Trump and his Supreme Court pick are morons, libtards, fckwits and stupid cvnts
.

What a bunch of BS...so typical from the libs/socialists who outnumber the rational people on this thread about 10/1 :lol:


Because rational people normally make up 1/10th of a discussion.

Less rational and more national. ist

Thanks, I didn't see Yank's comment.

The insults I've referred to have all been posted by Seneca. In contrast, I can't remember any retaliatory insults returned and in the main Trump's detractors have been a lot less inclined to resort to that sort of invective.


Rinkals wrote:
Wilson's Toffee wrote:
Anything that runs contrary to one's own opinion should be considered fake news. That bar was long set by the libs.


You're the c unt who quotes the Onion as a serious resource., just to counter that little bit of fiction.

:blush:

My bad!


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Well, apart from the occasional small and totally understandable slip.

Mostly I do try not to indulge in rampant invective.


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Rinkals wrote:
houtkabouter wrote:
saffer13 wrote:
Rinkals wrote:
FairWeather_Aussie wrote:
Is this thread still going? What is the current theme, Kavanaugh being a bit rapey when he was younger and a serial liar when under oath when older, or something else? Or just personal attacks, that would be better?

You'd think so.

However, the loudest and most vocal on here are pushing their conviction that CBF is a liar who is quite happy to ruin an innocent man's life with her baseless and partisan accusations. The real victims here are the men and boys who have to live with these types of accusations. If they weren't lies, why didn't she report them at the time?

But yes, the insults have been flowing thick and fast; those who don't support Trump and his Supreme Court pick are morons, libtards, fckwits and stupid cvnts
.

What a bunch of BS...so typical from the libs/socialists who outnumber the rational people on this thread about 10/1 :lol:


Because rational people normally make up 1/10th of a discussion.

Less rational and more national. ist

Thanks, I didn't see Yank's comment.

The insults I've referred to have all been posted by Seneca. In contrast, I can't remember any retaliatory insults returned and in the main Trump's detractors have been a lot less inclined to resort to that sort of invective.

:lol:


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I'm starting to think that trump isn't just slinging insults at the media, he genuinely actually is destroying them. Remember the massive NYT tax expose of oh, ten days ago that was going to bring down the Presidency? No, me neither.

I watched CNN for half an hour last night as I was in a hotel room and that fat bald thirty something gimp who.has a more mysterious career than James corden was on. Holy crap he is shit. Trevor Noah without the laughter track.

And the New yorker has immolated itself in the space of a couple of weeks. It's pretty amazing really.

You should probably think about why this is a stupid idea.


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Seneca of the Night wrote:
I'm starting to think that trump isn't just slinging insults at the media, he genuinely actually is destroying them. Remember the massive NYT tax expose of oh, ten days ago that was going to bring down the Presidency? No, me neither.

I watched CNN for half an hour last night as I was in a hotel room and that fat bald thirty something gimp who.has a more mysterious career than James corden was on. Holy crap he is shit. Trevor Noah without the laughter track.

And the New yorker has immolated itself in the space of a couple of weeks. It's pretty amazing really.


Ooooh, thanks for reminding us about this, after all, if it's not in the immediate attention span of the public, it's surely a nothingburger. Apparently the Art of the Deal is to simply be propped up by Daddies money over and over and over. :thumbup:

It's a shame it's over so quickly, just after we learned that Weisselberg (Trump's chief Financial Exec) was granted immunity too. Imagine what secrets he would have had to tell, if only the ephemeral interest of the public hadn't been dragged off to the hurricane-of-the-day.

Mueller must be kicking himself for letting this one slip through.


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Not sure if posted already, but in light of Trumps tweet about his phone call to the king of that shithole country.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2018/oct/12/trump-khashoggi-case-will-not-stop-110bn-us-saudi-arms-trade-video

In some ways he is refreshingly awful in his honesty when talking about it...


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BokJock wrote:
Not sure if posted already, but in light of Trumps tweet about his phone call to the king of that shithole country.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2018/oct/12/trump-khashoggi-case-will-not-stop-110bn-us-saudi-arms-trade-video

In some ways he is refreshingly awful in his honesty when talking about it...


Most honest president ever. Better than the 'all options are on the table' crap they normally spout.


Yup, the Saudi $110Billion Arms Memorandum if understanding will go down as Trump's Cherry Tree moment.


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Ah but do you think he will keep this promise:

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Trump Offers $1 Million For "Pocahontas" Elizabeth Warren To Take DNA Test To Prove Indian Ancestry


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"We will take that little kit -- but we have to do it gently. Because we're in the #MeToo generation, we have to do it gently," the president trolled. "And we will very genlty take that kit, and slowly toss it, hoping it doesn't injure her arm, and we will say: I will give you a million dollars to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you're an Indian."


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Jesus Sen, I’m a bit concerned you’ve got Brett’s dealers number.Image


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Ah but do you think he will keep this promise:

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Trump Offers $1 Million For "Pocahontas" Elizabeth Warren To Take DNA Test To Prove Indian Ancestry


Quote:
"We will take that little kit -- but we have to do it gently. Because we're in the #MeToo generation, we have to do it gently," the president trolled. "And we will very genlty take that kit, and slowly toss it, hoping it doesn't injure her arm, and we will say: I will give you a million dollars to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you're an Indian."


Honest Don Trump is a man of his word. Shirely you have read this from SOTN and his mentor wee Tucker Carlson?


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Seneca of the Night wrote:
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Not sure if posted already, but in light of Trumps tweet about his phone call to the king of that shithole country.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2018/oct/12/trump-khashoggi-case-will-not-stop-110bn-us-saudi-arms-trade-video

In some ways he is refreshingly awful in his honesty when talking about it...


Most honest president ever. Better than the 'all options are on the table' crap they normally spout.

Quote:
All options are on the table


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... trong-ones

Quote:
All options are on the table


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... -the-table

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all options are on the table


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/wor ... 390343.cms


Refreshing stuff.


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Bullettyme wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
BokJock wrote:
Not sure if posted already, but in light of Trumps tweet about his phone call to the king of that shithole country.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2018/oct/12/trump-khashoggi-case-will-not-stop-110bn-us-saudi-arms-trade-video

In some ways he is refreshingly awful in his honesty when talking about it...


Most honest president ever. Better than the 'all options are on the table' crap they normally spout.

Quote:
All options are on the table


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... trong-ones

Quote:
All options are on the table


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... -the-table

Quote:
all options are on the table


https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/wor ... 390343.cms


Refreshing stuff.


But wait, one of the options is that it may have been "Rogue Killers" according to the Donald. Presumably that's one of the options on the table.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/15/midd ... index.html

It's possible that 15 rogue killers flew in private jets from Saudi to Turkey after luring Khashoggi into the embassy with promises of routine paperwork to enable him to get married, then decided that grabbing him, torturing him, killing him, dismembering him, all while his fiance is waiting outside and videos are confirming he never leaves and Turkish intel is apparently recording it all is the way to kill someone roguishly, then flew back to Saudi less than a day later, possibly with dismembered body parts in their carry on luggage.

Yup, that's just how "Rogue Killers" go about murdering random targets of opportunity, especially if a $110Billion arms Memorandum of Understanding between two countries may be at stake. :thumbup:


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CBS have explicitly asked him about Mattis leaving. Response was.

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Well, I don't know. He hasn't told me that.

I have a very good relationship with him. I had lunch with him two days ago. I have a very good relationship with him. It could be that he is. I think he's sort of a Democrat, if you want to know the truth,

But General Mattis is a good guy. We get along very well. He may leave. I mean, at some point, everybody leaves. Everybody. People leave. That's Washington.

Sounds like he's gone then. I wonder why Trump doesn't get on with him, I hope it's not because he won't let Trump blow something up.


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Ah but do you think he will keep this promise:

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Trump Offers $1 Million For "Pocahontas" Elizabeth Warren To Take DNA Test To Prove Indian Ancestry


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"We will take that little kit -- but we have to do it gently. Because we're in the #MeToo generation, we have to do it gently," the president trolled. "And we will very genlty take that kit, and slowly toss it, hoping it doesn't injure her arm, and we will say: I will give you a million dollars to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you're an Indian."

Apparently she's 1/1024th Native, which some clever clogs have decided means Trump owes her $976 :)


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Rugby2023 wrote:
BokJock wrote:
Ah but do you think he will keep this promise:

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Trump Offers $1 Million For "Pocahontas" Elizabeth Warren To Take DNA Test To Prove Indian Ancestry


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"We will take that little kit -- but we have to do it gently. Because we're in the #MeToo generation, we have to do it gently," the president trolled. "And we will very genlty take that kit, and slowly toss it, hoping it doesn't injure her arm, and we will say: I will give you a million dollars to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you're an Indian."

Apparently she's 1/1024th Native, which some clever clogs have decided means Trump owes her $976 :)


I'm not sure how she's spinning this as a win. She is quite literally as Indian as I am Nigerian (0.01% according to my DNA test). And I ain't no brother, that's for sure, as anyone how has seen me on either the basketball court or dancefloor can agree.


Given how much Trump made of it, and spun it into a derogatory epithet for her, it's now in his court. He can continue to call her Pocahontas, which would now have a more than oblique racial edge to it, or he can back away from it and try to find another more socially acceptable name to call her, probably from his garbage pail kids collector series.
Will he have the balls to stand by his now over-the-line pet name for her or not? Hey, you know it'll play well with his base, maybe he'll go for it.
Wonder if the million bucks will ever make it to the charity?


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BokJock wrote:
Ah but do you think he will keep this promise:

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Trump Offers $1 Million For "Pocahontas" Elizabeth Warren To Take DNA Test To Prove Indian Ancestry


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"We will take that little kit -- but we have to do it gently. Because we're in the #MeToo generation, we have to do it gently," the president trolled. "And we will very genlty take that kit, and slowly toss it, hoping it doesn't injure her arm, and we will say: I will give you a million dollars to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you're an Indian."

Apparently she's 1/1024th Native, which some clever clogs have decided means Trump owes her $976 :)


0.09% which is about half the rate of the average American and a rather long way from claims that her mother experienced racism due to her Native American heritage.

And it’s strictly speaking not Native “American” either, it’s Mexican, Peruvian and Colombian.

Trump is going to have a field day with this.


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I have literally no idea why Warren released this. You really have to believe your base is in the bag before putting out something as damaging as that.


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Turbogoat wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
Rugby2023 wrote:
BokJock wrote:
Ah but do you think he will keep this promise:

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Trump Offers $1 Million For "Pocahontas" Elizabeth Warren To Take DNA Test To Prove Indian Ancestry


Quote:
"We will take that little kit -- but we have to do it gently. Because we're in the #MeToo generation, we have to do it gently," the president trolled. "And we will very genlty take that kit, and slowly toss it, hoping it doesn't injure her arm, and we will say: I will give you a million dollars to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you're an Indian."

Apparently she's 1/1024th Native, which some clever clogs have decided means Trump owes her $976 :)


I'm not sure how she's spinning this as a win. She is quite literally as Indian as I am Nigerian (0.01% according to my DNA test). And I ain't no brother, that's for sure, as anyone how has seen me on either the basketball court or dancefloor can agree.


Given how much Trump made of it, and spun it into a derogatory epithet for her, it's now in his court. He can continue to call her Pocahontas, which would now have a more than oblique racial edge to it, or he can back away from it and try to find another more socially acceptable name to call her, probably from his garbage pail kids collector series.
Will he have the balls to stand by his now over-the-line pet name for her or not? Hey, you know it'll play well with his base, maybe he'll go for it.
Wonder if the million bucks will ever make it to the charity?


Given that you would have to go back to at least to the time of Pocahontas to find her indigenous heritage I imagine that he's still going to run with it.


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zt1903 wrote:
Rugby2023 wrote:
BokJock wrote:
Ah but do you think he will keep this promise:

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Trump Offers $1 Million For "Pocahontas" Elizabeth Warren To Take DNA Test To Prove Indian Ancestry


Quote:
"We will take that little kit -- but we have to do it gently. Because we're in the #MeToo generation, we have to do it gently," the president trolled. "And we will very genlty take that kit, and slowly toss it, hoping it doesn't injure her arm, and we will say: I will give you a million dollars to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you're an Indian."

Apparently she's 1/1024th Native, which some clever clogs have decided means Trump owes her $976 :)


0.09% which is about half the rate of the average American and a rather long way from claims that her mother experienced racism due to her Native American heritage.

And it’s strictly speaking not Native “American” either, it’s Mexican, Peruvian and Colombian.

Trump is going to have a field day with this.


This puts Ms Warren as between 1/32 and 1/512 Native-American, according to the Boston Globe.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45866168
It'd be interesting to research what continents Mexico, Peru and Colombia are on btw.... or what regions the Warren family tree inhabited for the last 6-10 generations.... but it doesn't really matter, given the context of the bet that Trump described so nicely, about gently - gently!- throwing a DNA kit at her.


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Given that you would have to go back to at least to the time of Pocahontas to find her indigenous heritage I imagine that he's still going to run with it.


For the more Buddhist amongst us, it means she could actually be Pocahontas.


Who would've thought that 'ancestry' meant before our time?


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Turbogoat wrote:
zt1903 wrote:
Rugby2023 wrote:
BokJock wrote:
Ah but do you think he will keep this promise:

Quote:
Trump Offers $1 Million For "Pocahontas" Elizabeth Warren To Take DNA Test To Prove Indian Ancestry


Quote:
"We will take that little kit -- but we have to do it gently. Because we're in the #MeToo generation, we have to do it gently," the president trolled. "And we will very genlty take that kit, and slowly toss it, hoping it doesn't injure her arm, and we will say: I will give you a million dollars to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you're an Indian."

Apparently she's 1/1024th Native, which some clever clogs have decided means Trump owes her $976 :)


0.09% which is about half the rate of the average American and a rather long way from claims that her mother experienced racism due to her Native American heritage.

And it’s strictly speaking not Native “American” either, it’s Mexican, Peruvian and Colombian.

Trump is going to have a field day with this.


This puts Ms Warren as between 1/32 and 1/512 Native-American, according to the Boston Globe.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45866168
It'd be interesting to research what continents Mexico, Peru and Colombia are on btw.... or what regions the Warren family tree inhabited for the last 6-10 generations.... but it doesn't really matter, given the context of the bet that Trump described so nicely, about gently - gently!- throwing a DNA kit at her.


You're an order of magnitude out. Minimum is 1/1,024th. She's homeopathically Indian.

All she's managed to prove is she is less Indian than the average honky.


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Turbogoat wrote:
Seneca of the Night wrote:
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Given that you would have to go back to at least to the time of Pocahontas to find her indigenous heritage I imagine that he's still going to run with it.


For the more Buddhist amongst us, it means she could actually be Pocahontas.


Who would've thought that 'ancestry' meant before our time?


Yeah - but it's a tough crowd in Oklahoma. Apparently her parents has to elope because they were mixed race. "Not one drop!".


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Turbogoat wrote:
zt1903 wrote:
Rugby2023 wrote:
BokJock wrote:
Ah but do you think he will keep this promise:

Quote:
Trump Offers $1 Million For "Pocahontas" Elizabeth Warren To Take DNA Test To Prove Indian Ancestry


Quote:
"We will take that little kit -- but we have to do it gently. Because we're in the #MeToo generation, we have to do it gently," the president trolled. "And we will very genlty take that kit, and slowly toss it, hoping it doesn't injure her arm, and we will say: I will give you a million dollars to your favorite charity, paid for by Trump, if you take the test and it shows you're an Indian."

Apparently she's 1/1024th Native, which some clever clogs have decided means Trump owes her $976 :)


0.09% which is about half the rate of the average American and a rather long way from claims that her mother experienced racism due to her Native American heritage.

And it’s strictly speaking not Native “American” either, it’s Mexican, Peruvian and Colombian.

Trump is going to have a field day with this.


This puts Ms Warren as between 1/32 and 1/512 Native-American, according to the Boston Globe.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-45866168
It'd be interesting to research what continents Mexico, Peru and Colombia are on btw.... or what regions the Warren family tree inhabited for the last 6-10 generations.... but it doesn't really matter, given the context of the bet that Trump described so nicely, about gently - gently!- throwing a DNA kit at her.


Media coverage is rather bizarre. I can understand Warren spinning it as a win, but the reporting?

Rather than “proving” her Native American heritage the test has shown her to be so white that even Richard Spencer would approve.


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