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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:46 am 
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Shes the closest thing we have to trump imo, active on Twitter and happy to spread fake news.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics ... news-story

Edit: re Judith Collins


Not sure

Trumps immigration policys are closer to Winston and Labours

I thought that their attitude to the TPP was the same as Trump's too.
Turns out I was wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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Dark wrote:
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Shes the closest thing we have to trump imo, active on Twitter and happy to spread fake news.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics ... news-story

Edit: re Judith Collins


Not sure

Trumps immigration policys are closer to Winston and Labours


I don’t mean on policy. I mean she deliberately spread fake news from a dodgy site and doubled down on it when challenged. As far as her followers are concerned, the article she posted was true. She never retracted her comments or admitted to any of it being wrong.

Very Trump-esque


If all you have against Trump is fake news and the fact he is a misogynistic, racist, seemingly nearly imbecilic idiot, without mentioning his actual policy, then maybe yes, Collins was the one who fell for a fake story and is none of the rest and tweeted it.

Think it is a bit of a stretch to then call her NZ Trump when we have Winston.


Trumps policies on immigration are nothing new. His attitude to the media and his love for twitter are. Collins is obviously not that bad, but the story I posted is a worrying sign - mainly because she never admitted to being wrong.


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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Wilderbeast wrote:
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Dark wrote:
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Shes the closest thing we have to trump imo, active on Twitter and happy to spread fake news.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics ... news-story

Edit: re Judith Collins


Not sure

Trumps immigration policys are closer to Winston and Labours


I don’t mean on policy. I mean she deliberately spread fake news from a dodgy site and doubled down on it when challenged. As far as her followers are concerned, the article she posted was true. She never retracted her comments or admitted to any of it being wrong.

Very Trump-esque


If all you have against Trump is fake news and the fact he is a misogynistic, racist, seemingly nearly imbecilic idiot, without mentioning his actual policy, then maybe yes, Collins was the one who fell for a fake story and is none of the rest and tweeted it.

Think it is a bit of a stretch to then call her NZ Trump when we have Winston.


Trumps policies on immigration are nothing new. His attitude to the media and his love for twitter are. Collins is obviously not that bad, but the story I posted is a worrying sign - mainly because she never admitted to being wrong.


Fair point, but if you wanted NZ politicians hung out for not admitting they were wrong for making dumb mistakes and not admitting it, she would be a long list.

Top of head even bigger ones

Clark and the Pledge cards
Key and his ill-advised (I'm not going to say dumb as it was straight after and emotion was flying) comments after Pike River, and not following through enough

Lesser

Ardern and what a GDP is

Winston and Huka Lodge being sold to the Chinese (this guy could write his own dictionary on bullshit not admitted)

Joyce the hole

There is bound to be Bridges ones, but can't be bothered, too late


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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So...who the hell says "All sizzle and no sausage"? It's "All sizzle and no steak", ffs.


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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So...who the hell says "All sizzle and no sausage"? It's "All sizzle and no steak", ffs.


Twyford in the house years and years ago about National Standards which got heaps of laughs from Labour.

They are obviously using it as a pay back.

Which is dumb as no one remembers and it sounds like a joke about no penis.

Will link to it when I'm next at a computer


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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How stupid.

Though the arguments about sexism & mansplaining in the ad are also stupid. It's a shit ad, but arguing about its content actually makes it more effective as it gets the message out there even more. Stupid woke lefties.


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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I dont like her general policies, but I can appreciate her "car club" crushing policies. These hoons normally have an hilarious "baby on board" hangover sticker as well as their affiliate club emblazoned on the back and front of their shitty souped up Altezzas.

Crush em all and let god sort en out! Absolute wankers


How many got crushed under that legislation - less than 10, wasn't it?


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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I dont like her general policies, but I can appreciate her "car club" crushing policies. These hoons normally have an hilarious "baby on board" hangover sticker as well as their affiliate club emblazoned on the back and front of their shitty souped up Altezzas.

Crush em all and let god sort en out! Absolute wankers


How many got crushed under that legislation - less than 10, wasn't it?


I think it's similar to the number of Kiwibuild houses built to date. ;)


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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I dont like her general policies, but I can appreciate her "car club" crushing policies. These hoons normally have an hilarious "baby on board" hangover sticker as well as their affiliate club emblazoned on the back and front of their shitty souped up Altezzas.

Crush em all and let god sort en out! Absolute wankers


How many got crushed under that legislation - less than 10, wasn't it?


I think it's similar to the number of Kiwibuild houses built to date. ;)

I would avoid linking cars and houses, many would claim they were one and the same under National... ;)


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I dont like her general policies, but I can appreciate her "car club" crushing policies. These hoons normally have an hilarious "baby on board" hangover sticker as well as their affiliate club emblazoned on the back and front of their shitty souped up Altezzas.

Crush em all and let god sort en out! Absolute wankers


How many got crushed under that legislation - less than 10, wasn't it?


I think it's similar to the number of Kiwibuild houses built to date. ;)


LOL - nah, waaaaay less than that

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Thing is, that was one particular piece of legislation from National that I liked


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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So...who the hell says "All sizzle and no sausage"? It's "All sizzle and no steak", ffs.


Twyford in the house years and years ago about National Standards which got heaps of laughs from Labour.

They are obviously using it as a pay back.

Which is dumb as no one remembers and it sounds like a joke about no penis.

Will link to it when I'm next at a computer



Sorry to take so long

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Hon Anne Tolley: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. This bill is about national standards. It has nothing to do with national testing. I ask you to remind the member on his feet to speak to the bill.

The ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Hon Rick Barker): That is not a point of order. It is a debating point, and the member knows that.

PHIL TWYFORD: The so-called long tail of underachievement is indeed a very serious problem, and it is one that I do not doubt that every member of this House, on both sides of the aisle, cares about. But this bill has nothing to offer. It is all sizzle and no sausage. It does not introduce anything new—actually, it recognises explicitly that effective assessment tools are already at work in our schools.


https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/hansard ... -amendment


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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Mr Mike wrote:
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I dont like her general policies, but I can appreciate her "car club" crushing policies. These hoons normally have an hilarious "baby on board" hangover sticker as well as their affiliate club emblazoned on the back and front of their shitty souped up Altezzas.

Crush em all and let god sort en out! Absolute wankers


How many got crushed under that legislation - less than 10, wasn't it?


I think it's similar to the number of Kiwibuild houses built to date. ;)

I would avoid linking cars and houses, many would claim they were one and the same under National... ;)


:lol: not bad.


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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Saw there was a petition raised to rename the country to "Aotearoa New Zealand"

How would people feel about that change


Aotearoa as a name for all of NZ is a modern invention. New Zealand is a much older name.

I'm not opposed to changing the name but it should be an accurate tradition, and not something that feels forced for the sake of bilingualism. It feels a little bit token.

The reality is there probably is not a suitable name and in that case it may be best to not change.


I think the calls shows how depressingly mono-lingual we are as a nation. Lots of countries have names that change depending on what language you are speaking.

English speakers visit Germany, French visit Allemagne, Spanish Alemania, Poles Niemcy. And the locals they all meet there live in Deutschland.


Errr what?

Do you think New Zealand is called New Zealand in every other language?


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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Shes the closest thing we have to trump imo, active on Twitter and happy to spread fake news.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/politics ... news-story

Edit: re Judith Collins


Not sure

Trumps immigration policys are closer to Winston and Labours

I thought that their attitude to the TPP was the same as Trump's too.
Turns out I was wrong.


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You actually follow that account don't you Bill? You silly old twunt.


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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Saw there was a petition raised to rename the country to "Aotearoa New Zealand"

How would people feel about that change


Aotearoa as a name for all of NZ is a modern invention. New Zealand is a much older name.

I'm not opposed to changing the name but it should be an accurate tradition, and not something that feels forced for the sake of bilingualism. It feels a little bit token.

The reality is there probably is not a suitable name and in that case it may be best to not change.


I think the calls shows how depressingly mono-lingual we are as a nation. Lots of countries have names that change depending on what language you are speaking.

English speakers visit Germany, French visit Allemagne, Spanish Alemania, Poles Niemcy. And the locals they all meet there live in Deutschland.


Errr what?

Do you think New Zealand is called New Zealand in every other language?


No. I was actually trying to make the opposite point.

If you're speaking English than it's New Zealand, if you're speaking Maori it's Aotearoa, if you're speaking french it's Nouvelle-Zélande, if you're speaking turkish it's Yeni Zelanda, etc etc.

English and Maori are both official languages, so they're both official names for the country. So why combine them?


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That’s an interesting point, but it’s not a change of translation so not quite the same. New Zealand doesn’t translate to Aotearoa.


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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Fat Old Git wrote:
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Gordon Bennett wrote:
Saw there was a petition raised to rename the country to "Aotearoa New Zealand"

How would people feel about that change


Aotearoa as a name for all of NZ is a modern invention. New Zealand is a much older name.

I'm not opposed to changing the name but it should be an accurate tradition, and not something that feels forced for the sake of bilingualism. It feels a little bit token.

The reality is there probably is not a suitable name and in that case it may be best to not change.


I think the calls shows how depressingly mono-lingual we are as a nation. Lots of countries have names that change depending on what language you are speaking.

English speakers visit Germany, French visit Allemagne, Spanish Alemania, Poles Niemcy. And the locals they all meet there live in Deutschland.


Errr what?

Do you think New Zealand is called New Zealand in every other language?


No. I was actually trying to make the opposite point.

If you're speaking English than it's New Zealand, if you're speaking Maori it's Aotearoa, if you're speaking french it's Nouvelle-Zélande, if you're speaking turkish it's Yeni Zelanda, etc etc.

English and Maori are both official languages, so they're both official names for the country. So why combine them?


That is true and in many parts of the world and Trump call us "Where?"

Think the "?" is an inflection like an umlaut


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What happened to Nu Tirani?


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 Post subject: Re: NZ Politics Thread
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That’s an interesting point, but it’s not a change of translation so not quite the same. New Zealand doesn’t translate to Aotearoa.


Why does it need to? Mt Cook doesn't translate to Aoraki, but people speaking either language know what you are referring to regardless.

Yes, most names for NZ in other languages are versions of the English name, but that's only because, as someone pointed out earlier, for most of them the existence of these islands were not even known about until recently.


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That’s an interesting point, but it’s not a change of translation so not quite the same. New Zealand doesn’t translate to Aotearoa.


Why does it need to? Mt Cook doesn't translate to Aoraki, but people speaking either language know what you are referring to regardless.


Yes... but Aoraki refers to the mountain. Mt Cook also refers to the mountain. Aotearoa refers to North Island, NZ.


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Thing is, that was one particular piece of legislation from National that I liked


Yeah agreed. Maybe the deterrent of seeing their mates cars crushed made the others pull their head in. Those boy racer petrol heads really love their cars.


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Mr Mike wrote:
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I dont like her general policies, but I can appreciate her "car club" crushing policies. These hoons normally have an hilarious "baby on board" hangover sticker as well as their affiliate club emblazoned on the back and front of their shitty souped up Altezzas.

Crush em all and let god sort en out! Absolute wankers


How many got crushed under that legislation - less than 10, wasn't it?


I think it's similar to the number of Kiwibuild houses built to date. ;)

I would avoid linking cars and houses, many would claim they were one and the same under National... ;)


Touche! :D


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Mr Mike wrote:
booji boy wrote:
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I dont like her general policies, but I can appreciate her "car club" crushing policies. These hoons normally have an hilarious "baby on board" hangover sticker as well as their affiliate club emblazoned on the back and front of their shitty souped up Altezzas.

Crush em all and let god sort en out! Absolute wankers


How many got crushed under that legislation - less than 10, wasn't it?


I think it's similar to the number of Kiwibuild houses built to date. ;)

I would avoid linking cars and houses, many would claim they were one and the same under National... ;)


:lol: :lol:


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That’s an interesting point, but it’s not a change of translation so not quite the same. New Zealand doesn’t translate to Aotearoa.


Why does it need to? Mt Cook doesn't translate to Aoraki, but people speaking either language know what you are referring to regardless.


Yes... but Aoraki refers to the mountain. Mt Cook also refers to the mountain. Aotearoa refers to North Island, NZ.


Yeah but wikipedia says that since the 19th century the name has come to refer to the entire country. 8)


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I thought the north and south islands got official Māori names recently, and they weren’t aotearoa? I’ll need to visit Wikipedia won’t I?


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I thought the north and south islands got official Māori names recently, and they weren’t aotearoa? I’ll need to visit Wikipedia won’t I?


Yes you will :lol:

Only mother North Island was referred to as “aotearoa”

Have you been living under an Australian rock?


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Meh. Aotearoa may well have originally applied only to the North Island, but it is now universally understood to mean the country as a whole. Meanwhile Nu Tirene had its brief moment in the sun and has now vanished into the mists of time, hopefully never to be heard of again.


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Meh. Aotearoa may well have originally applied only to the North Island, but it is now universally understood to mean the country as a whole. Meanwhile Nu Tirene had its brief moment in the sun and has now vanished into the mists of time, hopefully never to be heard of again.


I always thought it was the Maori name for NZ. Doesn't it translate to land of the long white cloud?


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Meh. Aotearoa may well have originally applied only to the North Island, but it is now universally understood to mean the country as a whole. Meanwhile Nu Tirene had its brief moment in the sun and has now vanished into the mists of time, hopefully never to be heard of again.


I always thought it was the Maori name for NZ. Doesn't it translate to land of the long white cloud?


Aotearoa was originally only for the North Island but has changed over the years to mean the entire archipelago.


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Meh. Aotearoa may well have originally applied only to the North Island, but it is now universally understood to mean the country as a whole. Meanwhile Nu Tirene had its brief moment in the sun and has now vanished into the mists of time, hopefully never to be heard of again.


I always thought it was the Maori name for NZ. Doesn't it translate to land of the long white cloud?


Aotearoa was originally only for the North Island but has changed over the years to mean the entire archipelago.

If the South Islands purpose is to supply power to the North, along with a few farms, surely the name Aotearoa can extend to include the South


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My wife just replaced our modem and I noticed it is a Huawei model of modem? :shock:

Will the Chinese Govt be spying on me? Worse still what if they hack my PR account?


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Their modems/routers are shit; no matter what info they try to knick they'll never get it to upload.

Invest some $$$ and get a decent one.


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Their modems/routers are shit; no matter what info they try to knick they'll never get it to upload.

Invest some $$$ and get a decent one.


:lol: My wife runs her business from home and does some pretty grunty stuff on her computer (graphics etc) so if it's not up to scratch I'm sure she'll be taking it back for an upgrade pretty smartly.


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Meh. Aotearoa may well have originally applied only to the North Island, but it is now universally understood to mean the country as a whole. Meanwhile Nu Tirene had its brief moment in the sun and has now vanished into the mists of time, hopefully never to be heard of again.


I always thought it was the Maori name for NZ. Doesn't it translate to land of the long white cloud?


Aotearoa was originally only for the North Island but has changed over the years to mean the entire archipelago.

If the South Islands purpose is to supply power to the North, along with a few farms, surely the name Aotearoa can extend to include the South

I guess Aotearoa is easier to say than Aotearoa me Te Wai Pounamu.

TBH, I don't think South Island Maori have an issue with Aotearoa being used to represent all of, um, Aotearoa :P


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I thought the north and south islands got official Māori names recently, and they weren’t aotearoa? I’ll need to visit Wikipedia won’t I?


Yes you will :lol:

Only mother North Island was referred to as “aotearoa”

Have you been living under an Australian rock?

North Island is Te Ika o Maui.


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My wife just replaced our modem and I noticed it is a Huawei model of modem? :shock:

Will the Chinese Govt be spying on me? Worse still what if they hack my PR account?

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Not really a political post but a good dumping ground for this titbit - good to see the bullshitting frontbum get his comeuppance

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Whaleoil blogger Cameron Slater has lost one of the country's longest running defamation cases after failing to put up any credible defence.

The judgment has been greeted as "magnificent" by businessman Matthew Blomfield, who sued Slater for defamation after a series of blog posts in 2012 accused him of illegal and immoral behaviour.

Blomfield said: "Finally there is something solid out in the public domain to show that all of Cameron Slater's nonsense was just that, nonsense. Same can be said of all of his rants

"As this judgment clearly shows, he was given every possible chance to show that he had a defence to my defamation claim, but in the end he could produce nothing."

The judgment made public today saw Justice Paul Davison find in Blomfield's favour, ruling out a defence from Slater after long delays and failures to meet legal requirements to defend a claim of defamation.

Slater has taken the judgment to the Court of Appeal. There is yet to be a ruling on what the loss will cost Slater.

The case against Slater and his company, Social Media Consultants Ltd, focused on nine blog posts on the Whaleoil website over a month in mid-2012.

It saw claims by Blomfield the blog posts were a deliberate attack orchestrated by a former business partner Warren Powell and associates after a falling out in their Hells Pizza business.

Evidence on the court file showed Powell and others met with Slater before the blog posts to plan "Operation Bumslide" - a plan to target Blomfield.

The blogger then obtained - allegedly from Blomfield's former business associates - a hard drive which contained 10 years of Blomfield's communications and information.

The new judgment came after a defamation hearing as due to start on October 8 was adjourned when Slater and lawyers arrived at court without a proper defence.

In total, Slater had entered or attempted to enter five statements of defence over the course of the case which all failed to meet the legal requirements for attempted defences of truth and of honest opinion.

Those defences required the blogger to either present the source of details he claimed as fact to show they were true, or to show statements had been made as opinion based on facts which were known at the time of publication.

Davison said Slater had been "afforded considerable leniency" to meet deadlines and get a proper defence before the court.

There had been "indulgence" to allow Slater to change his defence with one High Court judge even providing the blogger guidance as to how to prepare for the defamation hearing.

Davison said Slater's attempts to change his defence and to introduce new pleadings was rightly seen as "a last-minute attempt to prevent the (Blomfield's) claim from being heard and determined by the court".

He said it was possible to see delay as Slater's objective when seeking court hearings on issues such as a security for costs.

Davison said the statement of defence Slater had arrived with when the trial was due to start failed to identify the facts which would have been used to prove his blog posts were true.

Instead, large piles of evidence had been pointed to which, in a number of cases, relied on "a third party's allegations about the plaintiff".

And instead of providing a defence of honest opinion, Slater's court filings instead repeated his inadequate defence of truth.

Davison said it wasn't necessary to rule on the merits of the case because of the legal, technical flaws in Slater's attempted defence.

"However, in my view the documents relied on by the defendants do not provide cogent support for the propositions and conclusions they seek to draw from them in relation to the defences of truth and honest opinion, or the bad reputation of the plaintiff."

The judgment recorded Slater had made claims in a blog post which included saying the "Blomfield files" would expose "drugs, fraud, extortion, bullying, corruption, collusion, compromises, perjury, deception, (and) hydraulic-ing".

Davison said Slater's defence "fell well short" of providing facts which supported the accusations printed.

An example highlighted by Davison was a blogpost by Slater claiming Blomfield had "ripped off" the charity KidsCan.

He said Slater's own lawyer had conceded "the emails (relied on) ... did not establish or support the existence of a conspiracy to 'rip off' or defraud the KidsCan charity involving the plaintiff".

Davison said the ongoing delays were unfair to Blomfield, who had a right to have the case heard.

The judgment was initially suppressed but is now public after a successful challenge by Blomfield's lawyer Felix Geiringer.

Blomfield said he believed the case would likely run another year or more through the appeal process.

"Our justice system is fundamentally broken in this way."

He said it allowed a litigant intent on delaying justice to drag out the court proceedings.

Asked if he had a message for Slater, Blomfield said: "You cannot do this to a person and suffer no consequence. You cannot make up lies about someone and try to destroy them and then simply walk away.

"You were paid to destroy me. You did irreparable damage to my businesses, to my family, to me. But no matter how long you delay things, your day will come."

Justice Raynor Asher, in a 2014 judgment, said " the material provided by the sources appears to have been unlawfully obtained" and it had "the hallmarks of a private feud". He said there was no public interest in the blog posts, which appeared driven by a "personal vendetta".

Asher also found the hard drive and other documents provided to Slater "appear to have been obtained illegitimately".

Slater featured in the 2014 book Dirty Politics, based on information hacked from his computer which revealed he had acted as an attack dog for elements of the National Party, and had accepted cash to write blog posts pushing or attacking particular issues.

His blogging activity has diminished recently after he suffered a stroke. Diddums

Slater is facing further defamation action from health academics. He recently came away empty-handed - and escaped unscathed - from mutual defamation actions against Colin Craig.

Slater and Powell did not respond to requests for comment.


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