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bimboman wrote:Iran was being expansive before trump Saint. It was let of the leash and the cash went into that expansion.
I know - but like I said, you don;t try and do everything all at once, especially when there was fundamentally no real diplomatic relationship to start with,

So you do things one at a time. Pretty much everybody agreed that the Nuclear piece was the most important thing to address, so that's what you start with.

If you try and do one big deal to cover anything you end up not doing any deal at all.

I’d agree with one thing at a time if that’s what the deal had been.
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bimboman wrote:
Saint wrote:
bimboman wrote:Iran was being expansive before trump Saint. It was let of the leash and the cash went into that expansion.
I know - but like I said, you don;t try and do everything all at once, especially when there was fundamentally no real diplomatic relationship to start with,

So you do things one at a time. Pretty much everybody agreed that the Nuclear piece was the most important thing to address, so that's what you start with.

If you try and do one big deal to cover anything you end up not doing any deal at all.

I’d agree with one thing at a time if that’s what the deal had been.
The thing about one thing at a time is that there's gaps between each stage. The action Trump should have taken was to build on the previous agreement - offering further reductions of sanctions in return for curbing expansionist tendencies, or whatever specific next step he wanted to address. But each deal is a self contained deal in it's own right that you complete, allow to settle down, then move on.
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Saint wrote:
bimboman wrote:
Saint wrote:
bimboman wrote:Iran was being expansive before trump Saint. It was let of the leash and the cash went into that expansion.
I know - but like I said, you don;t try and do everything all at once, especially when there was fundamentally no real diplomatic relationship to start with,

So you do things one at a time. Pretty much everybody agreed that the Nuclear piece was the most important thing to address, so that's what you start with.

If you try and do one big deal to cover anything you end up not doing any deal at all.

I’d agree with one thing at a time if that’s what the deal had been.
The thing about one thing at a time is that there's gaps between each stage. The action Trump should have taken was to build on the previous agreement - offering further reductions of sanctions in return for curbing expansionist tendencies, or whatever specific next step he wanted to address. But each deal is a self contained deal in it's own right that you complete, allow to settle down, then move on.
Bimbo is the arch Brexiteer on the bored - fixing things that are wrong in a current deal is completely alien to him.

If certain things aren't working but the main goal of the deal is - what you should definitely always do is rip the whole thing up
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Turbogoat wrote:
Deadtigers wrote:
Jay Cee Gee wrote:Trump planning to pardon soldiers awaiting trial for war crimes & murder apparently.

Good to know in this world of fuzzy morals you can always rely on Trump to be a massive piece of shit.
When I heard that I was shocked. Will this play well with the troops? I mean these guys were turned in by their fellow soldiers. What about if you saw a guy killing a kid for fun now? What motivation is there for someone to risk their career to turn in a bad apple?
This is all sorts of fucked up.

Yeah, you'll get some people who won't look past the surface of it and just see the farce as 'supporting the troops', no matter how blindly this support is. Many others are pissed though. There's a pretty lengthy facebook discussion going on among a lot of ex-mil guys and the disgust at this is palpable among the majority of them.

The SEAL one, Chief Gallagher is yet to stand trial, but is accused of murdering a wounded prisoner and posing with the body, as well as non-combatant civilians. There's enough evidence for that to go to trial, and those accusations are pretty damn serious. There are pretty strict rules about this sort of thing and you'll find a lot of service personnel don't want to be seen as part of any group that is not held to any sense of honour.
What really strikes home though, is that it was his own SEAL team who turned him in and will bear witness against him. THEY understood that he had broken the rules of combat and had the strength of character to draw the line in the sand. Where the hell do they stand now? They've taken a stand, and are now effectively having the rug pulled out from under them for doing so. They've been completely hung out to dry. There needs to be a trial so they can back up their charges against one of their own (a decision they wouldn't have taken lightly). Unless they have fabricated the whole thing to frame their TL, they are the troops who need to be supported right now, not Chief Gallagher. Unless there is an actual trial, the truth will not be known.
Bit if a development going on with the Chief Gallagher saga. His lawyer is now Marc Mukasey, who is also now one of the personal lawyers of a certain Donald Jehosephat Trump.

I wonder if one of our legal geniuses here can expound on the ethics of having two clients, one who may potentially pardon the other?

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/ne ... ial-pardon
I've finally twigged why this alleged fukknuckle has been causing my brain to itch.
Chief.
Gallagher.

The Super Rugby team I support:

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Dammit.

One of Uncle Sam's Misguided Children just compared pardoning this guy to taking a steaming dump on the Stars and Stripes... there is a lot of bad feeling about giving this guy a free pass.
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Saint wrote:
bimboman wrote:Iran was being expansive before trump Saint. It was let of the leash and the cash went into that expansion.
I know - but like I said, you don;t try and do everything all at once, especially when there was fundamentally no real diplomatic relationship to start with,

So you do things one at a time. Pretty much everybody agreed that the Nuclear piece was the most important thing to address, so that's what you start with.

If you try and do one big deal to cover anything you end up not doing any deal at all.
It is amazing that a clear, concise description of the situation still is unable to convince bimbo that he is wrong.
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So considering how to terrorist acts by white offenders are more often than not labelled as hate crimes and the offender described as a little boy lost, while Muslim ones are terrorism regardless of the circumstances, I can't wait to see how people will behave and what will happen now that the original white boy lost is out and unrepentant about literally taking up arms against the US.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/23/america ... years.html
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You are reaching there a bit, mate
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Kiwias wrote:
Saint wrote:
bimboman wrote:Iran was being expansive before trump Saint. It was let of the leash and the cash went into that expansion.
I know - but like I said, you don;t try and do everything all at once, especially when there was fundamentally no real diplomatic relationship to start with,

So you do things one at a time. Pretty much everybody agreed that the Nuclear piece was the most important thing to address, so that's what you start with.

If you try and do one big deal to cover anything you end up not doing any deal at all.
It is amazing that a clear, concise description of the situation still is unable to convince bimbo that he is wrong.
Bimbo is Sarah Huckleberry Dim Sanders, and I claim my free ex-Jeremy Kyle Show Lie Detector machine.
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bimboman wrote:1.7 billion wasn’t it ?
Sorry, yes. But either way, that was undeniably Iran's money
Not to the likes of Bimbo. But ask them about Farmer's medical bill and they go silent.

They will ignore all through diplomatic analysis and explanation to get to what they believe. We live in a world where an idiots opinion is as valid as your facts because he believes in it as deeply.
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Deadtigers wrote:So considering how to terrorist acts by white offenders are more often than not labelled as hate crimes and the offender described as a little boy lost, while Muslim ones are terrorism regardless of the circumstances, I can't wait to see how people will behave and what will happen now that the original white boy lost is out and unrepentant about literally taking up arms against the US.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/23/america ... years.html
Really? :lol: :lol: which tv channels are you watching ?

Please guys don't quote bimbo and his ludicrous comments, he already made an arse of himself in the brexit thread.
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lexpat wrote:
Deadtigers wrote:So considering how to terrorist acts by white offenders are more often than not labelled as hate crimes and the offender described as a little boy lost, while Muslim ones are terrorism regardless of the circumstances, I can't wait to see how people will behave and what will happen now that the original white boy lost is out and unrepentant about literally taking up arms against the US.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/23/america ... years.html
Really? :lol: :lol: which tv channels are you watching ?

Please guys don't quote bimbo and his ludicrous comments, he keeps making an arse of himself in the brexit thread.
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lexpat wrote:
Deadtigers wrote:So considering how to terrorist acts by white offenders are more often than not labelled as hate crimes and the offender described as a little boy lost, while Muslim ones are terrorism regardless of the circumstances, I can't wait to see how people will behave and what will happen now that the original white boy lost is out and unrepentant about literally taking up arms against the US.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/23/america ... years.html
Really? :lol: :lol: which tv channels are you watching ?

Please guys don't quote bimbo and his ludicrous comments, he already made an arse of himself in the brexit thread.
Check out how Dylan Roof was portrayed, Heather Meyer's killer only got hate crimes when a Muslim driving into a crowd would have been terrorism. Same for the synagogue shooters and etc. There is always this extra effort to find out what turned them into these "killers" while the Muslim person is kind of how did no one see this coming. The fact that the Pulse nightclub shooter is not viewed as a little boy lost and labelled a terrorist is says a lot.
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Deadtigers wrote:
lexpat wrote:
Deadtigers wrote:So considering how to terrorist acts by white offenders are more often than not labelled as hate crimes and the offender described as a little boy lost, while Muslim ones are terrorism regardless of the circumstances, I can't wait to see how people will behave and what will happen now that the original white boy lost is out and unrepentant about literally taking up arms against the US.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/23/america ... years.html
Really? :lol: :lol: which tv channels are you watching ?

Please guys don't quote bimbo and his ludicrous comments, he already made an arse of himself in the brexit thread.
Check out how Dylan Roof was portrayed, Heather Meyer's killer only got hate crimes when a Muslim driving into a crowd would have been terrorism. Same for the synagogue shooters and etc. There is always this extra effort to find out what turned them into these "killers" while the Muslim person is kind of how did no one see this coming. The fact that the Pulse nightclub shooter is not viewed as a little boy lost and labelled a terrorist is says a lot.
I am not sure what you are arguing here - the person in your article is a muslim
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BokJock wrote:
Deadtigers wrote:
lexpat wrote:
Deadtigers wrote:So considering how to terrorist acts by white offenders are more often than not labelled as hate crimes and the offender described as a little boy lost, while Muslim ones are terrorism regardless of the circumstances, I can't wait to see how people will behave and what will happen now that the original white boy lost is out and unrepentant about literally taking up arms against the US.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/23/america ... years.html
Really? :lol: :lol: which tv channels are you watching ?

Please guys don't quote bimbo and his ludicrous comments, he already made an arse of himself in the brexit thread.
Check out how Dylan Roof was portrayed, Heather Meyer's killer only got hate crimes when a Muslim driving into a crowd would have been terrorism. Same for the synagogue shooters and etc. There is always this extra effort to find out what turned them into these "killers" while the Muslim person is kind of how did no one see this coming. The fact that the Pulse nightclub shooter is not viewed as a little boy lost and labelled a terrorist is says a lot.
I am not sure what you are arguing here - the person in your article is a muslim
It is how there is always a good kid gone bad angle with white terrorists (who are never called that.) And a Muslim terrorist is always, we should have seen it coming. So I want to see how that is now juxtaposed when you have a while boy converted to Islam and a proud terrorist. Will the kid gloves white terrorist get treated with win out or will they go with the evil Muslim narrative.
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Deadtigers wrote:So considering how to terrorist acts by white offenders are more often than not labelled as hate crimes and the offender described as a little boy lost, while Muslim ones are terrorism regardless of the circumstances, I can't wait to see how people will behave and what will happen now that the original white boy lost is out and unrepentant about literally taking up arms against the US.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/23/america ... years.html
A mate of mine (Robert Young Pelton) was the first Westerner to spot who this kid was, all those years ago. Back then it was a real novelty (to the regular world), that an American might go and join a group like this. (There had been others, like those who fought in Chechnya, but nothing that reached the mainstream attention).
He held this little shit in a fair bit of contempt back then, in contrast to much of the 'poor misguided child' type narrative that was spun about him. Lindh knew what he was doing, much more so than was portrayed, but he was the first posterchild of this sort of thing... people back home struggled to rationalize it all.
Since Lindh, we've now gotten more accustomed to idiots joining ISIS etc... and it's less of a novelty that needs to be comprehended from our perspective, so there's less rationalization going on.

Here's RYPs account of what went down:
https://www.kathryncramer.com/kathryn_c ... about.html

What's remarkable is that he's served his time, about to be freed, and the conflict in Afghanistan is still going on with Western forces still on the ground there... it's been that long.
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Deadtigers wrote:
lexpat wrote:
Deadtigers wrote:So considering how to terrorist acts by white offenders are more often than not labelled as hate crimes and the offender described as a little boy lost, while Muslim ones are terrorism regardless of the circumstances, I can't wait to see how people will behave and what will happen now that the original white boy lost is out and unrepentant about literally taking up arms against the US.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/23/america ... years.html
Really? :lol: :lol: which tv channels are you watching ?

Please guys don't quote bimbo and his ludicrous comments, he already made an arse of himself in the brexit thread.
Check out how Dylan Roof was portrayed, Heather Meyer's killer only got hate crimes when a Muslim driving into a crowd would have been terrorism. Same for the synagogue shooters and etc. There is always this extra effort to find out what turned them into these "killers" while the Muslim person is kind of how did no one see this coming. The fact that the Pulse nightclub shooter is not viewed as a little boy lost and labelled a terrorist is says a lot.
Whatever race, color or religion you'll always have crazy lose canons everywhere. But when it's a group or an individual having a central leader calling for destruction and chaos that recruits, trains , indoctrinates and is supported by an ethnic, religious or political base that is sympathetic to its cause this is terrorism.
And yes, I wish we could exterminate all of them.

Enjoy your Memorial Day weekend.


@Laurent - Merci.
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lexpat wrote:
Deadtigers wrote:
lexpat wrote:
Deadtigers wrote:So considering how to terrorist acts by white offenders are more often than not labelled as hate crimes and the offender described as a little boy lost, while Muslim ones are terrorism regardless of the circumstances, I can't wait to see how people will behave and what will happen now that the original white boy lost is out and unrepentant about literally taking up arms against the US.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/23/america ... years.html
Really? :lol: :lol: which tv channels are you watching ?

Please guys don't quote bimbo and his ludicrous comments, he already made an arse of himself in the brexit thread.
Check out how Dylan Roof was portrayed, Heather Meyer's killer only got hate crimes when a Muslim driving into a crowd would have been terrorism. Same for the synagogue shooters and etc. There is always this extra effort to find out what turned them into these "killers" while the Muslim person is kind of how did no one see this coming. The fact that the Pulse nightclub shooter is not viewed as a little boy lost and labelled a terrorist is says a lot.
Whatever race, color or religion you'll always have crazy lose canons everywhere. But when it's a group or an individual having a central leader calling for destruction and chaos that recruits, trains , indoctrinates and is supported by an ethnic, religious or political base that is sympathetic to its cause this is terrorism.
And yes, I wish we could exterminate all of them.

Enjoy your Memorial Day weekend.


@Laurent - Merci.
Enjoy yours too. I get your point but the Orlando guy was a repressed gay Muslim man who killed those he hated because he couldn't be as free as them. That is not terrorism. He may have claimed some Islamist group towards the end but if you look at his history and actions, it was a last minute attempt to redeem himself as a "good Muslim." How this was a terrorist act and the Synagogue shooters were not, is beyond me.
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Lone GOP rep. From Texas, right outside Austin, blocks 19 Billion dollar disaster relief. Apparently his issues were the looking deficit and money for the border was not included.
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poor old jerry nadler is starting to feel the pace.

panic attack?

https://twitter.com/buzzman888/status/1 ... 2503355394
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Deadtigers wrote:Lone GOP rep. From Texas, right outside Austin, blocks 19 Billion dollar disaster relief. Apparently his issues were the looking deficit and money for the border was not included.

Ferchrissakes... blocking disaster relief for political gamesmanship is beyond malicious.
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merry! wrote:poor old jerry nadler is starting to feel the pace.

panic attack?

https://twitter.com/buzzman888/status/1 ... 2503355394
Getting one’s laughs from someone’s physical discomfort is not very classy at all. But if it floats your boat.
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Kiwias wrote:
merry! wrote:poor old jerry nadler is starting to feel the pace.

panic attack?

https://twitter.com/buzzman888/status/1 ... 2503355394
Getting one’s laughs from someone’s physical discomfort is not very classy at all. But if it floats your boat.
It's a shit attempt at a diagnosis too. Poor merry hasn't the first clue what to look for.
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Democrats are claiming Trump telling Barr to declass all docs is a cover up? What exactly does declassifying cover up? They are vbashit crazy. Thoughts and prayers are with Pelosi and Schiff.#makeAOClooksane
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kiwinoz wrote:Democrats are claiming Trump telling Barr to declass all docs is a cover up? What exactly does declassifying cover up? They are vbashit crazy. Thoughts and prayers are with Pelosi and Schiff.#makeAOClooksane
#TrumptheWLB #makeseveryonelooksane
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Trump delivers another huge FUCK OFF to Congress

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo notified lawmakers Friday that President Trump is invoking his emergency authority to sidestep Congress and complete 22 arms deals worth approximately $8 billion that would benefit Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, and other countries, despite lawmakers’ objections to the transactions.
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kiwinoz wrote:Democrats are claiming Trump telling Barr to declass all docs is a cover up? What exactly does declassifying cover up? They are vbashit crazy. Thoughts and prayers are with Pelosi and Schiff.#makeAOClooksane
Don't think so, it's all the other amoral stuff that he's trying to pull that's the cover up - stonewalling subpoenas, intimidating/influencing witnesses, flouting laws to attempt to prevent perfectly legal oversight, flat out lying, inducing others to lie - that sort of thing.

Wholesale declassification without any due regard to protecting methodology, systems or processes is a whole different form of amoral behaviour that a President shouldn't engage in. I guess someone could make the argument that he's doing this to obfuscate and attempt to undermine the investigation... but not sure if that's what you'd classify as a cover up.
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Turbogoat wrote:
kiwinoz wrote:Democrats are claiming Trump telling Barr to declass all docs is a cover up? What exactly does declassifying cover up? They are vbashit crazy. Thoughts and prayers are with Pelosi and Schiff.#makeAOClooksane
Don't think so, it's all the other amoral stuff that he's trying to pull that's the cover up - stonewalling subpoenas, intimidating/influencing witnesses, flouting laws to attempt to prevent perfectly legal oversight, flat out lying, inducing others to lie - that sort of thing.

Wholesale declassification without any due regard to protecting methodology, systems or processes is a whole different form of amoral behaviour that a President shouldn't engage in. I guess someone could make the argument that he's doing this to obfuscate and attempt to undermine the investigation... but not sure if that's what you'd classify as a cover up.
KiO is happy on Earth 2. He either doesn't fully read or comprehend these news reports or he is prison planet level kook.
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Remember King Obama? Hold on to that and read this article.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/we ... spartanntp
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Kiwias wrote:Trump delivers another huge FUCK OFF to Congress

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo notified lawmakers Friday that President Trump is invoking his emergency authority to sidestep Congress and complete 22 arms deals worth approximately $8 billion that would benefit Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, and other countries, despite lawmakers’ objections to the transactions.
And the great mystery of who or what might be driving the aggression toward Iran (other than FOX News) is solved. I'm sure nooooooobody saw that one coming. :|
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Of course there is perfectly nothing wrong with Trump's behaviour in this case either.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-b ... gop-2019-5
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In Adams Schiffs own words

He calls for transparency and uses the term cover up. They are getting what they wanted.

Trump has now called out Australia, Downer will go down along with Clapper, Brennan, Comey and McCabe. Don't worry DT they are all white.
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kiwinoz wrote:In Adams Schiffs own words

He calls for transparency and uses the term cover up. They are getting what they wanted.

Trump has now called out Australia, Downer will go down along with Clapper, Brennan, Comey and McCabe. Don't worry DT they are all white.
Hmmm... the cover up would be the stonewalling, the dangerous phase would be the thoughtless declassification carte blanche handed out, the way I read it.

Maybe he could have thought to more clearly classify each phase of the amoral undermining by Trump?

You're jumping the gun quite a bit predicting that all those people will 'go down' - that's QAnon sealed indictment territory there.
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kiwinoz wrote:In Adams Schiffs own words

He calls for transparency and uses the term cover up. They are getting what they wanted.

Trump has now called out Australia, Downer will go down along with Clapper, Brennan, Comey and McCabe. Don't worry DT they are all white.
Is it remotely possible that Schiff is talking about the blanket refusal to respond to subpoenas for witnesses and the incessant law suits brought against subpoeanas on banks and accountancy firms to handover documents? It is hard to claim that Trump is being transparent in those areas.
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Turbogoat wrote:
kiwinoz wrote:In Adams Schiffs own words

He calls for transparency and uses the term cover up. They are getting what they wanted.

Trump has now called out Australia, Downer will go down along with Clapper, Brennan, Comey and McCabe. Don't worry DT they are all white.
Hmmm... the cover up would be the stonewalling, the dangerous phase would be the thoughtless declassification carte blanche handed out, the way I read it.

Maybe he could have thought to more clearly classify each phase of the amoral undermining by Trump?

You're jumping the gun quite a bit predicting that all those people will 'go down' - that's QAnon sealed indictment territory there.
So Alexander Downer is some manner of communist anticommunist post-communism traitor?

I would not have thought the silly cúnt had it in him.
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Turbogoat wrote:
kiwinoz wrote:In Adams Schiffs own words

He calls for transparency and uses the term cover up. They are getting what they wanted.

Trump has now called out Australia, Downer will go down along with Clapper, Brennan, Comey and McCabe. Don't worry DT they are all white.
Hmmm... the cover up would be the stonewalling, the dangerous phase would be the thoughtless declassification carte blanche handed out, the way I read it.

Maybe he could have thought to more clearly classify each phase of the amoral undermining by Trump?

You're jumping the gun quite a bit predicting that all those people will 'go down' - that's QAnon sealed indictment territory there.
what, like the mueller report?

you clowns are all over the place.
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Boss Tweet of Trumpanny Hall...
Trump has personally and repeatedly urged the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to award a border-wall contract to a specific construction firm in North Dakota run by a GOP donor. The company's CEO is a frequent guest on conservative media and has courted Washington officials by arranging meetings at congressional offices and inviting officials to review border-wall prototypes. (Washington Post)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigrat ... 873d88a376
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merry! wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:
kiwinoz wrote:In Adams Schiffs own words

He calls for transparency and uses the term cover up. They are getting what they wanted.

Trump has now called out Australia, Downer will go down along with Clapper, Brennan, Comey and McCabe. Don't worry DT they are all white.
Hmmm... the cover up would be the stonewalling, the dangerous phase would be the thoughtless declassification carte blanche handed out, the way I read it.

Maybe he could have thought to more clearly classify each phase of the amoral undermining by Trump?

You're jumping the gun quite a bit predicting that all those people will 'go down' - that's QAnon sealed indictment territory there.
what, like the mueller report?

you clowns are all over the place.
You do know that the demands for the public release of the full Mueller report are with the ever-present caveat that it not include items that breach national security protocols, right?

I'd really like for you to be able to understand this point, it'd give me a spark of hope for you yet. Please tell me you can grasp this simple point.
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merry! wrote:
Turbogoat wrote:
kiwinoz wrote:In Adams Schiffs own words

He calls for transparency and uses the term cover up. They are getting what they wanted.

Trump has now called out Australia, Downer will go down along with Clapper, Brennan, Comey and McCabe. Don't worry DT they are all white.
Hmmm... the cover up would be the stonewalling, the dangerous phase would be the thoughtless declassification carte blanche handed out, the way I read it.

Maybe he could have thought to more clearly classify each phase of the amoral undermining by Trump?

You're jumping the gun quite a bit predicting that all those people will 'go down' - that's QAnon sealed indictment territory there.
what, like the mueller report?

you clowns are all over the place.
Schiff's English is not that hard to understand
While Trump stonewalls the public from learning the truth about his obstruction of justice,

Trump and Barr conspire to weaponize law enforcement and classified information against their political enemies.
The first part refers to Trump refusing even legal requests for information and is stopping all witnesses from answering subpoenas, the second to Trump's decision to declassify all information in the Mueller report in order to attack his political enemies.

They are not linked.
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Taranaki Snapper wrote:Boss Tweet of Trumpanny Hall...
Trump has personally and repeatedly urged the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to award a border-wall contract to a specific construction firm in North Dakota run by a GOP donor. The company's CEO is a frequent guest on conservative media and has courted Washington officials by arranging meetings at congressional offices and inviting officials to review border-wall prototypes. (Washington Post)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigrat ... 873d88a376
:lol:
Never turn down an opportunity for a bit of good old pork barrel self-enrichment and corruption there, Don.
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Good ol Merry, back for a visit with his lying ways. PR’s current snake oil merchant.
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