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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 8:06 pm 
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Go on then Rodders tell me where the differences are in policy between the groups.
Well when I say policy, clearly tye BP dont have any.



Tell,us what the BP manifesto is ?


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c69 wrote:
Go on then Rodders tell me where the differences are in policy between the groups.
Well when I say policy, clearly tye BP dont have any.


Brexit party/Farage - no deal brexit.

ERG/JRM - no deal brexit.

UKIP/Batten - Islam is a death cult and Muslims need to sign documents renouncing the qur'an.

Sure, EXACTLY the same.

Gove, Fox, Grayling, IDS - FAR RIGHT SCUM


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Assuming (that is a big assumption) that the predictions are correct than means that Leave (brexit) got 24 and remain (Lib Dem, SNP, Plaid Cymru and Green) got 21.

I am not counting Conservative or Labour as they could be remain/leave depending on whom you talk to.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 8:11 pm 
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RodneyRegis wrote:
c69 wrote:
Go on then Rodders tell me where the differences are in policy between the groups.
Well when I say policy, clearly tye BP dont have any.


Brexit party/Farage - no deal brexit.

ERG/JRM - no deal brexit.

UKIP/Batten - Islam is a death cult and Muslims need to sign documents renouncing the qur'an.

Sure, EXACTLY the same.

Gove, Fox, Grayling, IDS - FAR RIGHT SCUM

Strange thing to call them the far right.
They are not at all far right :uhoh:


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Assuming (that is a big assumption) that the predictions are correct than means that Leave (brexit) got 24 and remain (Lib Dem, SNP, Plaid Cymru and Green) got 21.

I am not counting Conservative or Labour as they could be remain/leave depending on whom you talk to.

It’s based on 2014/2010 figures.

Don’t pay attention.

They’ve just substituted UKIP for BP and haven’t factored in labour/cons problems.


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Assuming (that is a big assumption) that the predictions are correct than means that Leave (brexit) got 24 and remain (Lib Dem, SNP, Plaid Cymru and Green) got 21.

I am not counting Conservative or Labour as they could be remain/leave depending on whom you talk to.

It’s based on 2014/2010 figures.

Don’t pay attention.

They’ve just substituted UKIP for BP and haven’t factored in labour/cons problems.


It may be wide of the mark, but I think they put a little more thought into it that substituting UKIP for BP


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This is my anecdotal interpretation of my Twitter feed not fact, but the exit polls across Europe don't seem to be showing any right wing surge.

Very welcome if true.

Apart from the Brexit Party and Farage...


I suppose again, you could argue it is a repetition of last time when UKIP got the most seats, unless BP smash it and get loads more


UKIP are the far right vote. Stop this.


I said right wing surge. Personally I don't use the term "far right" to describe them or BP and if memory serves I don't think I ever have.

:lol:

My bad. I'd just read about Le Pen and thought you were talking about the far right.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 8:23 pm 
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mdaclarke wrote:
Assuming (that is a big assumption) that the predictions are correct than means that Leave (brexit) got 24 and remain (Lib Dem, SNP, Plaid Cymru and Green) got 21.

I am not counting Conservative or Labour as they could be remain/leave depending on whom you talk to.


This will be the bickering battle ground.

If you really want to be technical you'd count 1 in 4 tories as remainers and 3 in for Labour voters as remainers but I doubt anyone will go that far.

I'll be counting all Labour as remain :lol:


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It does seem to depend who you want to look at.

Election maps UK have Brexit party getting 33/34 MEPs, or 45-48% of the vote. (Bit bold a prediction for any party to get that high to be frank.)


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It's not a percentage of the vote - it is done by region.

So even if every single person in the NE voted for the BP, they could only get a certain amount of seats.


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SamShark wrote:
mdaclarke wrote:
Assuming (that is a big assumption) that the predictions are correct than means that Leave (brexit) got 24 and remain (Lib Dem, SNP, Plaid Cymru and Green) got 21.

I am not counting Conservative or Labour as they could be remain/leave depending on whom you talk to.


This will be the bickering battle ground.

If you really want to be technical you'd count 1 in 4 tories as remainers and 3 in for Labour voters as remainers but I doubt anyone will go that far.

I'll be counting all Labour as remain :lol:



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In the 2016 EU referendum, 148 Labour constituencies voted to leave, 84 to remain.


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It's not a percentage of the vote - it is done by region.

So even if every single person in the NE voted for the BP, they could only get a certain amount of seats.

Oh wow ok thank you sam. Thought it was based on percentage. My apologies.


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Tory sources saying they’ve probably got 5 or Just a bit more MEPs. - Beth Rigby.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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So 6 will be a triumph :lol:

When are results dropping?


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Labour source says the party has been "smashed" in Islington


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All part of the Absolute Boy's long game.


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So 6 will be a triumph :lol:

When are results dropping?

Another source is stating 0-1 MEP.

Not a joke either.


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bimboman wrote:
c69 wrote:
Go on then Rodders tell me where the differences are in policy between the groups.
Well when I say policy, clearly tye BP dont have any.



Tell,us what the BP manifesto is ?

Hard right


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 9:01 pm 
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SamShark wrote:
mdaclarke wrote:
Assuming (that is a big assumption) that the predictions are correct than means that Leave (brexit) got 24 and remain (Lib Dem, SNP, Plaid Cymru and Green) got 21.

I am not counting Conservative or Labour as they could be remain/leave depending on whom you talk to.


This will be the bickering battle ground.

If you really want to be technical you'd count 1 in 4 tories as remainers and 3 in for Labour voters as remainers but I doubt anyone will go that far.

I'll be counting all Labour as remain :lol:



That is the beauty of Labour they are all things to all me. If you're a remainer then they are remain, if you're a brexiteer then they are brexit. If you don't like their policy they have another one for you.

I'm adding them to Brexit!!! :-)


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RodneyRegis wrote:

Gove, Fox, Grayling, IDS - FAR RIGHT SCUM


Probably the first time I have agreed with you. You just forgot to mention Farage in there though.


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Wendigo7 wrote:
It does seem to depend who you want to look at.

Election maps UK have Brexit party getting 33/34 MEPs, or 45-48% of the vote. (Bit bold a prediction for any party to get that high to be frank.)


Will not be anything like that many


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easyray wrote:
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Gove, Fox, Grayling, IDS - FAR RIGHT SCUM


Probably the first time I have agreed with you. You just forgot to mention Farage in there though.


Far right! You hysterical queens.


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Mick Mannock wrote:
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RodneyRegis wrote:

Gove, Fox, Grayling, IDS - FAR RIGHT SCUM


Probably the first time I have agreed with you. You just forgot to mention Farage in there though.


Far right! You hysterical queens.

Blame Rodney he posted the shit :lol:


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2019 9:08 pm 
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c69 wrote:
Mick Mannock wrote:
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RodneyRegis wrote:

Gove, Fox, Grayling, IDS - FAR RIGHT SCUM


Probably the first time I have agreed with you. You just forgot to mention Farage in there though.


Far right! You hysterical queens.

Blame Rodney he posted the shit :lol:


True. Rodders you screaming plonker


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Mick Mannock wrote:
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It does seem to depend who you want to look at.

Election maps UK have Brexit party getting 33/34 MEPs, or 45-48% of the vote. (Bit bold a prediction for any party to get that high to be frank.)


Will not be anything like that many

Brexit party rumoured to have achieved 40% in North west.

That includes the remain areas Liverpool and Manchester too.


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Wendigo7 wrote:
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Wendigo7 wrote:
It does seem to depend who you want to look at.

Election maps UK have Brexit party getting 33/34 MEPs, or 45-48% of the vote. (Bit bold a prediction for any party to get that high to be frank.)


Will not be anything like that many

Brexit party rumoured to have achieved 40% in North west.

That includes the remain areas Liverpool and Manchester too.

As long as that cvny yaxley Lenin didn't get any


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c69 wrote:
Mick Mannock wrote:
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Gove, Fox, Grayling, IDS - FAR RIGHT SCUM


Probably the first time I have agreed with you. You just forgot to mention Farage in there though.


Far right! You hysterical queens.

Blame Rodney he posted the shit :lol:


You can fudge off. I misunderstood Sam's post, which I've freely admitted to.

You then posted that UKIP is the same party it was when Farage was there, and that the ERG, BP and UKIP are indistinguishable :blush:


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It's a massive turnout. Le Pen is going to get more votes than Macron did at the last GE.

:?: Not sure…
If by GE you mean the 2017 Presidential election the turnout for the second round was close to 75%.
52% turnout for this one.


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message #2527204 wrote:
Wendigo7 wrote:
Mick Mannock wrote:
Wendigo7 wrote:
It does seem to depend who you want to look at.

Election maps UK have Brexit party getting 33/34 MEPs, or 45-48% of the vote. (Bit bold a prediction for any party to get that high to be frank.)


Will not be anything like that many

Brexit party rumoured to have achieved 40% in North west.

That includes the remain areas Liverpool and Manchester too.

As long as that cvny yaxley Lenin didn't get any


The absolute scenes if he was elected :lol:


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Wales MPs confirming Brexit Party more than likely have 2/3 of the 4 seats.

Pretty much confirmed.


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Wales MPs confirming Brexit Party more than likely have 2/3 of the 4 seats.

Pretty much confirmed.


3 would be bigger than the pre-vote polls suggested (they were forcast 2)


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Clouseau wrote:
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It's a massive turnout. Le Pen is going to get more votes than Macron did at the last GE.

:?: Not sure…
If by GE you mean the 2017 Presidential election the turnout for the second round was close to 75%.
52% turnout for this one.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... navigation

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France had an unexpectedly high turnout, estimated to be over 50% – the highest in decades – and higher than the last parliamentary elections.


I dunno.


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Labour could have really screwed up in London.

Those votes might never come back.


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Labour could have really screwed up in London.

Those votes might never come back.

You’ve seen it too eh?

Congrats to the Lib Dem’s, stuck to their values. They aren’t mine but I admire them for that and Cable is a principled individual.


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RodneyRegis wrote:
Clouseau wrote:
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It's a massive turnout. Le Pen is going to get more votes than Macron did at the last GE.

:?: Not sure…
If by GE you mean the 2017 Presidential election the turnout for the second round was close to 75%.
52% turnout for this one.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... navigation

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France had an unexpectedly high turnout, estimated to be over 50% – the highest in decades – and higher than the last parliamentary elections.


I dunno.

I would guess presidential elections and parliamentary elections are separate.


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Labour have some good London MEPs - I feel bad for them.

Seb Dance is 2nd on the list. Hope he stays in politics if he doesn;t get a seat.


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Labour could have really screwed up in London.

Those votes might never come back.

They have a Jew hating Trotskyist as leader.
Only those with genuine, clearly voiced leave or remain agendas were going to come out on top, because that's the only issue people were voting for, not who can rubber stamp the quickest, or who can get the best expenses claims in. Neither of the two major parties offer that clear voice.


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That is the lie that I don't understand some in the UK keep peddling.

The Leave campaign lied repeatedly and knowlingly: yes
The Leave campaign funding was shady as fùck: yes
The Leaving process is a nightmare and we are getting fùcked: yes, yes we are
In light of all this the vote must be respected: YEEEEEEESSSSSS

It is crazed. Tbf I remember reading that the Brits ruling class had a stupid fatalism brought about by lessons of empire and afternoons having custard funneled up their bums by the head boys. Turns out he was right.

Politicians lie all the time. If our elections were going to be voided because people told lies or had no way or intention of fulfilling their promises we would be having elections every day. I'm sure there were many people who voted remain purely because they were scared into doing so by the lies told by the PM the Chancellor and the governor of the BoE about what would happen immediately after a leave vote. Remember these were the people who were in power and could actually act on their promises.

I suspect a decent tranche of Remain voters were, to some extent at least, influenced by the uncertainties of a leave outcome, as predicted by some Remain campaigners. There have been many predictions though by Leavers too. Just one example would be of the Armageddon implosion of the EU.
That is politics. What is not politics is lying. The bus. The disgraceful Mordaunt Turkey lie that some entrenched Leavers seem to believe to this day. There should, IMO, be far greater comeback accorded to lying - or reckless misstatement. The saying that a lie can travel halfway round the world before it is corrected shows contempt for consumers or electors etc

Like I said. The Prime Minister Lied. The Chancellor Lied and the governor of the BoE Lied. They didn't get it wrong they told bare faced lies.

So if lying IS normal in politics why are naive Leavers hysterical queens squealing betrayal? The referendum Was ADVISORY. A politician lied about implementing it. That was the job of Parliament, not the PM or the Govt. As you say, they lie all the time :thumbup:


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Labour could have really screwed up in London.

Those votes might never come back.

They have a Jew hating Trotskyist as leader.
Only those with genuine, clearly voiced leave or remain agendas were going to come out on top, because that's the only issue people were voting for, not who can rubber stamp the quickest, or who can get the best expenses claims in. Neither of the two major parties offer that clear voice.

Labours antisemetism and The Tories Windrush racism and rampant institutional Islamophobia is quitevremarkable.
Especially as both sides claim it is a smear campaign to suggest they have problems.
Even to suggest that either party has issues releases the attack dogs on either side and they smear the dissenters as racist or bigots. What a shit storm


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Brexit party topped every region in Wales.

Including Cardiff who votes remain.

They also won in Portsmouth.


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