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Anyone with knee trouble should check out @Kneesovertoeguy on IG. I had grade3 LCL tear with grade 2 ACL and PCL tears in July 2015. 2 years later I completed my first half marathon but still had those painful niggles that would randomly appear. Signed up to kneesovertoeguy and those niggles were gone within a month. Slightly annoying (but worth it despite) is all the exercises he had me doing he gives away free on his page :x :lol:
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assfly wrote:Starting a 19 week training schedule today for a marathon in June.

Running without a race booked in the near future is difficult. I lose motivation so quickly.
Yep, it's tough to keep training without a goal or a race.

Currently got 2 on the go. Sub 20 for the 5km (pr just before Christmas of 20:12 at a flat and fast parkrun) and a sub 1:43 half.
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My goal is to be less fat. And I guess keep the streak going. What is prob going to happen is training to try BQ once I hit my birthday this year, as I go up a group and gain 5 minutes. That (BQ) is going to be rough though and prob a pipe dream
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BokJock wrote:Same here. Into week 6 of my program for Edinburgh. got a couple of 10km and probably a 1/2 to do along the way.

(Had to stop 30km into the Loch Ness Marathon due to old rugby hip injury, so this is the last chance to do a marathon before I am 40)
You'll need to do a couple of long runs (i.e. longer than 21km) if you're training for the full marathon.

I'm sure you can carry on running after you turn 40. Running has actually made me feel much younger. I was also chatting to a fella on the weekend who is 55 and has run 16 marathons since turning 40.
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assfly wrote:
BokJock wrote:Same here. Into week 6 of my program for Edinburgh. got a couple of 10km and probably a 1/2 to do along the way.

(Had to stop 30km into the Loch Ness Marathon due to old rugby hip injury, so this is the last chance to do a marathon before I am 40)
You'll need to do a couple of long runs (i.e. longer than 21km) if you're training for the full marathon.

I'm sure you can carry on running after you turn 40. Running has actually made me feel much younger. I was also chatting to a fella on the weekend who is 55 and has run 16 marathons since turning 40.
I’m 42 in a couple weeks and still run semi-regularly (the Saturday morning club runs are the easiest current option for taking the kids out exercising). There are several runners at the club older than me running marathons on a regular basis, and some who’ve got into ultra-distance at that age.

I can understand wanting to do a marathon while still under 40 just to set a personal time. Even at that, I’m sure there are people out there who’ve set PBs well past 40.
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assfly wrote:
BokJock wrote:Same here. Into week 6 of my program for Edinburgh. got a couple of 10km and probably a 1/2 to do along the way.

(Had to stop 30km into the Loch Ness Marathon due to old rugby hip injury, so this is the last chance to do a marathon before I am 40)
You'll need to do a couple of long runs (i.e. longer than 21km) if you're training for the full marathon.

I'm sure you can carry on running after you turn 40. Running has actually made me feel much younger. I was also chatting to a fella on the weekend who is 55 and has run 16 marathons since turning 40.
I started running long distance again by entering Comrades on the morning of my 40th. I'm turning 52 this year and have done 4 × 21, 2 x 32km (1 this weekend coming) and a 42km since the beginning of the year. Which is fairly standard Comrades training at this stage.
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sorCrer wrote:I started running long distance again by entering Comrades on the morning of my 40th. I'm turning 52 this year and have done 4 × 21, 2 x 32km (1 this weekend coming) and a 42km since the beginning of the year. Which is fairly standard Comrades training at this stage.
Is it up or down this year? My mate in Joburg is doing his third this year. His first was a DNF and his second was 11 hours 45 minutes.

Once I can comfortable slip under the 5 hour mark of a marathon I'll consider it.

But those distances you have to cover :shock: it's hard to maintain a work and family life whilst clocking those hours every week.
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danny_fitz wrote:
HKCJ wrote:
le chat wrote:I used to be a 2:44 marathoner but have put weight on in recent years and I am just getting back into running regularly. Currently just doing 3-5 miles, averaging below 9 minute miles at the moment so happy with that progress at 103kg.

Hoping to run a marathon later in the year looking at Marine corps (expensive) or Valencia (cheap). I would never do a marathon in England except London as I like a lot of crowd support which they don't tend to get here.

Currently running in Hoka Clifton's which are ready to be changed. Recently tried some Altras in a running store which were nice so also looking at this brand. It was a professional development session for podiatrists when I tried these and found that there is little alteration in my running gait depending on what shoe I wore. I don't think it is too far off of the mark to run in a shoe which you find comfortable, lots of the guys in running shoes talk absolute shite.

Also bought some Hoka sliders last week which are comfy but I am doubtful that they're particularly beneficial for recovery as advertised
Can recommend the Marine Corps Marathon. Really nice route, decent support, well organised.. the only bitch is the last 100m which is very uphill. You do have a bunch of marines screaming at you though which is good for the motivation. Some pretty impressive times by amputees too.
Have you got anything lined up?

I did the Hampton Court Half last year, I like to think I have another marathon in the tank but rowing is just getting in the way now. Would love to do London but I simply cant be arsed to take a charity place.
I’ve got the Edinburgh marathon in May. I’ve been ridiculously stupid in that I didn’t run any races last year when I got pretty fit and was doing 1hr35 half’s in training and was seriously contemplating training to go for a sub 3 (don’t think I would have got there but I should’ve given it a shot). Then I got married, had a big Christmas and couldn’t be arsed running in the cold. 6 months later I’m 10 kg heavier again and my first run back yesterday I barely broke 1hr30 for 15k. Pretty annoyed with myself but I’ll get there again.

My missus got a ballot place for London.. first time she has entered :x
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BokJock wrote:
assfly wrote:Starting a 19 week training schedule today for a marathon in June.

Running without a race booked in the near future is difficult. I lose motivation so quickly.
Same here. Into week 6 of my program for Edinburgh. got a couple of 10km and probably a 1/2 to do along the way.

(Had to stop 30km into the Loch Ness Marathon due to old rugby hip injury, so this is the last chance to do a marathon before I am 40)
Am also doing Edinburgh.. week 6 already?! Fk I’ve got some catching up to do! Where do you run BJ? The old cycle paths around Water of Leith are brilliant for training I find as is the Union Canal.. lots of Strava times on them to keep you motivated.
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Do your courses have much elevation? Just ran an 8km with 134m gain mostly in the first 2km's
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Duff Paddy wrote:
Mog The Almighty wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:
Mog The Almighty wrote:Why do I struggle to get my heart rate up into a decent zone on an elliptical machine, but struggle to keep it down into a decent zone on a road run?

I'm seem to sweat and huff and puff just as much doing either one.
It’s actually hard to run slow
Erm what? Please explain because my experience is the exact opposite.
Most people have a natural jogging pace that puts their heart rate quite high. Your “conversational” running pace where you can hold a full conversation whilst running is very slow so if you’re running on your own you’re usually way faster than that.
Now I'm just more confused.
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sorCrer wrote:Do your courses have much elevation? Just ran an 8km with 134m gain mostly in the first 2km's
My usual 10k course has 150m of elevation but it’s fairly gradual. There’s plenty of decent hills about in Edinburgh if you want to find them. The park run I do though is flat as a pancake. I think the Edinburgh marathon can’t count for nations records etc as is pretty downhill as it starts at the castle and goes down to the cost then flat all the way to the finish.
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HKCJ wrote:
sorCrer wrote:Do your courses have much elevation? Just ran an 8km with 134m gain mostly in the first 2km's
My usual 10k course has 150m of elevation but it’s fairly gradual. There’s plenty of decent hills about in Edinburgh if you want to find them. The park run I do though is flat as a pancake. I think the Edinburgh marathon can’t count for nations records etc as is pretty downhill as it starts at the castle and goes down to the cost then flat all the way to the finish.
Comrades up has around 2000m over the 89km's and roughly 1000m on the down. You do need to factor in hill training for it.
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So long as you’re not one of those people who try to run up Arthur’s Seat at noon on a Sunday when it’s peak time for tourists
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Duff Paddy wrote:So long as you’re not one of those people who try to run up Arthur’s Seat at noon on a Sunday when it’s peak time for tourists
Had me confused for a second. :lol:

There is an Arthur's Seat just past 1/2 way at Comrades. Legend has it if you drop a flower there and doff your cap, you'll have a good second half.
It is literally a “hole” that has been cut out of the bank and is reputed to be a favourite “resting spot” for Arthur Newton, a 5 times winner of the Comrades.
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HKCJ wrote:
sorCrer wrote:Do your courses have much elevation? Just ran an 8km with 134m gain mostly in the first 2km's
My usual 10k course has 150m of elevation but it’s fairly gradual. There’s plenty of decent hills about in Edinburgh if you want to find them. The park run I do though is flat as a pancake. I think the Edinburgh marathon can’t count for nations records etc as is pretty downhill as it starts at the castle and goes down to the cost then flat all the way to the finish.
HKCJ, were you the poster with a back/neck operation? No problem with running after that?
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Duff Paddy wrote:So long as you’re not one of those people who try to run up Arthur’s Seat at noon on a Sunday when it’s peak time for tourists
Fkin tourists have ruined Arthur’s seat :x I do sometimes run up there but I use the routes the tourists don’t know about. The ring road is a great 5k loop for training either running or cycling.


Handyman - yeah good memory! I had that neck op 11 years ago and ran a marathon 6 months after. It barely affected my running at all. Breaking my pelvis on the other hand... that was a 2-3 year recovery.
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HKCJ wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:So long as you’re not one of those people who try to run up Arthur’s Seat at noon on a Sunday when it’s peak time for tourists
Fkin tourists have ruined Arthur’s seat :x I do sometimes run up there but I use the routes the tourists don’t know about. The ring road is a great 5k loop for training either running or cycling.


Handyman - yeah good memory! I had that neck op 11 years ago and ran a marathon 6 months after. It barely affected my running at all. Breaking my pelvis on the other hand... that was a 2-3 year recovery.
Good to know. Will be having a neck operation to relieve a pinched nerve. Doc says should be fine to run after recovery.
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HKCJ wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:So long as you’re not one of those people who try to run up Arthur’s Seat at noon on a Sunday when it’s peak time for tourists
Fkin tourists have ruined Arthur’s seat :x I do sometimes run up there but I use the routes the tourists don’t know about. The ring road is a great 5k loop for training either running or cycling.


Handyman - yeah good memory! I had that neck op 11 years ago and ran a marathon 6 months after. It barely affected my running at all. Breaking my pelvis on the other hand... that was a 2-3 year recovery.
Where are those routes? *opens TripAdvisor
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handyman wrote:
HKCJ wrote:
Duff Paddy wrote:So long as you’re not one of those people who try to run up Arthur’s Seat at noon on a Sunday when it’s peak time for tourists
Fkin tourists have ruined Arthur’s seat :x I do sometimes run up there but I use the routes the tourists don’t know about. The ring road is a great 5k loop for training either running or cycling.


Handyman - yeah good memory! I had that neck op 11 years ago and ran a marathon 6 months after. It barely affected my running at all. Breaking my pelvis on the other hand... that was a 2-3 year recovery.
Good to know. Will be having a neck operation to relieve a pinched nerve. Doc says should be fine to run after recovery.
What are you having done? Fusion or discectomy? I really hope it goes as well for you as mine did. Was like someone just pressed a switch and the pain disappeared and I got my life back. I know others haven’t been so lucky but it was an absolute life changer for me.
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Booked Amsterdam marathon. Super flat 8) maximum elevation is 32m
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Kahu wrote:Anyone with knee trouble should check out @Kneesovertoeguy on IG. I had grade3 LCL tear with grade 2 ACL and PCL tears in July 2015. 2 years later I completed my first half marathon but still had those painful niggles that would randomly appear. Signed up to kneesovertoeguy and those niggles were gone within a month. Slightly annoying (but worth it despite) is all the exercises he had me doing he gives away free on his page :x :lol:
Went to physio. Medial meniscus unfortunately though he reckons it isn't on the terribly severe side as my pain and movement is good. Going to do rehab three weeks, try an injection and more rehab and then off for an MRI if needed
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le chat wrote:Booked Amsterdam marathon. Super flat 8) maximum elevation is 32m
Good luck.
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ElementFreak wrote:
le chat wrote:Booked Amsterdam marathon. Super flat 8) maximum elevation is 32m
Good luck.
Sounds dull to me, I'm doing the green 26.2mile which is 78 laps around a victorian prison including steps up and down in the wings...

I hate flat races and, I like races that make people go WTF?
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blindcider wrote:
ElementFreak wrote:
le chat wrote:Booked Amsterdam marathon. Super flat 8) maximum elevation is 32m
Good luck.
Sounds dull to me, I'm doing the green 26.2mile which is 78 laps around a victorian prison including steps up and down in the wings...

I hate flat races and, I like races that make people go WTF?
Yep, 78 laps of something did make me go WTF.

You're mental strength is crazy dude, I would get bored after 10 or so.
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blindcider wrote:
ElementFreak wrote:
le chat wrote:Booked Amsterdam marathon. Super flat 8) maximum elevation is 32m
Good luck.
Sounds dull to me, I'm doing the green 26.2mile which is 78 laps around a victorian prison including steps up and down in the wings...

I hate flat races and, I like races that make people go WTF?
Jesus. You’ll be doing the Sri Chinmoy next.
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blindcider wrote:
ElementFreak wrote:
le chat wrote:Booked Amsterdam marathon. Super flat 8) maximum elevation is 32m
Good luck.
Sounds dull to me, I'm doing the green 26.2mile which is 78 laps around a victorian prison including steps up and down in the wings...

I hate flat races and, I like races that make people go WTF?
Flats are the worst especially long straight ones x( have a very tough 32 tomorrow morning with several hundred meters of elevation
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Anyone here run the Frankfurt Marathon before?
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HKCJ wrote:
blindcider wrote:
ElementFreak wrote:
le chat wrote:Booked Amsterdam marathon. Super flat 8) maximum elevation is 32m
Good luck.
Sounds dull to me, I'm doing the green 26.2mile which is 78 laps around a victorian prison including steps up and down in the wings...

I hate flat races and, I like races that make people go WTF?
Jesus. You’ll be doing the Sri Chinmoy next.
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assfly wrote:
BokJock wrote:Same here. Into week 6 of my program for Edinburgh. got a couple of 10km and probably a 1/2 to do along the way.

(Had to stop 30km into the Loch Ness Marathon due to old rugby hip injury, so this is the last chance to do a marathon before I am 40)
You'll need to do a couple of long runs (i.e. longer than 21km) if you're training for the full marathon.

I'm sure you can carry on running after you turn 40. Running has actually made me feel much younger. I was also chatting to a fella on the weekend who is 55 and has run 16 marathons since turning 40.
Ah - yes I plan on running long after that as I have the bug now. the looming 4-0 was just the incentive I needed.

and yeah will be doing the longer runs in my training - the others mentioned are just races along the way.

One of the 10km will be the Balmoral 10k, which is an absolute belter around the queens estate. Has a very sneaky hill that absolutely f**ked me last year - but they have a bunch of pipers to greet you at the top which adds nicely to the atmosphere.

https://runbalmoral.com/content/

Next year I am contemplating the Devil of Deeside challenge.
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HKCJ wrote:
danny_fitz wrote:
HKCJ wrote:
le chat wrote:I used to be a 2:44 marathoner but have put weight on in recent years and I am just getting back into running regularly. Currently just doing 3-5 miles, averaging below 9 minute miles at the moment so happy with that progress at 103kg.

Hoping to run a marathon later in the year looking at Marine corps (expensive) or Valencia (cheap). I would never do a marathon in England except London as I like a lot of crowd support which they don't tend to get here.

Currently running in Hoka Clifton's which are ready to be changed. Recently tried some Altras in a running store which were nice so also looking at this brand. It was a professional development session for podiatrists when I tried these and found that there is little alteration in my running gait depending on what shoe I wore. I don't think it is too far off of the mark to run in a shoe which you find comfortable, lots of the guys in running shoes talk absolute shite.

Also bought some Hoka sliders last week which are comfy but I am doubtful that they're particularly beneficial for recovery as advertised
Can recommend the Marine Corps Marathon. Really nice route, decent support, well organised.. the only bitch is the last 100m which is very uphill. You do have a bunch of marines screaming at you though which is good for the motivation. Some pretty impressive times by amputees too.
Have you got anything lined up?

I did the Hampton Court Half last year, I like to think I have another marathon in the tank but rowing is just getting in the way now. Would love to do London but I simply cant be arsed to take a charity place.
I’ve got the Edinburgh marathon in May. I’ve been ridiculously stupid in that I didn’t run any races last year when I got pretty fit and was doing 1hr35 half’s in training and was seriously contemplating training to go for a sub 3 (don’t think I would have got there but I should’ve given it a shot). Then I got married, had a big Christmas and couldn’t be arsed running in the cold. 6 months later I’m 10 kg heavier again and my first run back yesterday I barely broke 1hr30 for 15k. Pretty annoyed with myself but I’ll get there again.

My missus got a ballot place for London.. first time she has entered :x
FFS, you might have mentioned that when I was proudly telling you about me lumbering around 5K.

My target this year is the Glencoe half in September.
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slick wrote:
My target this year is the Glencoe half in September.
That looks awesome 8)
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BokJock wrote:
slick wrote:
My target this year is the Glencoe half in September.
That looks awesome 8)
Are you involved in it?
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slick wrote:
BokJock wrote:
slick wrote:
My target this year is the Glencoe half in September.
That looks awesome 8)
Are you involved in it?
Not yet, but think I might be now - the scenery around there will be immense.

Running up hills is a challenge due to my size - 120kg but the downhill parts will be fun!
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BokJock wrote:
slick wrote:
BokJock wrote:
slick wrote:
My target this year is the Glencoe half in September.
That looks awesome 8)
Are you involved in it?
Not yet, but think I might be now - the scenery around there will be immense.

Running up hills is a challenge due to my size - 120kg but the downhill parts will be fun!
was planning on doing the Aviemore half in October...
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BokJock wrote:
slick wrote:
BokJock wrote:
slick wrote:
My target this year is the Glencoe half in September.
That looks awesome 8)
Are you involved in it?
Not yet, but think I might be now - the scenery around there will be immense.

Running up hills is a challenge due to my size - 120kg but the downhill parts will be fun!
120kg?! Fk I’ve put on 10kg since August and am up to 85 and find the difference in effort is huge. Don’t know how you cope at that weight!
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blindcider wrote:
ElementFreak wrote:
le chat wrote:Booked Amsterdam marathon. Super flat 8) maximum elevation is 32m
Good luck.
Sounds dull to me, I'm doing the green 26.2mile which is 78 laps around a victorian prison including steps up and down in the wings...

I hate flat races and, I like races that make people go WTF?
I like the crowd support and high participation numbers and the general feel of a big event and they're good ways to see a city
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Anybody ever tried running shoes from Decathlon? My Hoka shoes are falling to bits but don't fancy a new pair of them. Need to get a load of gear from Decathlon anyway and have always been impressed by their general range of clothing for running and cycling.
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le chat wrote:
blindcider wrote:
ElementFreak wrote:
le chat wrote:Booked Amsterdam marathon. Super flat 8) maximum elevation is 32m
Good luck.
Sounds dull to me, I'm doing the green 26.2mile which is 78 laps around a victorian prison including steps up and down in the wings...

I hate flat races and, I like races that make people go WTF?
I like the crowd support and high participation numbers and the general feel of a big event and they're good ways to see a city
I hate crowds so I am absolutely the other way, prefer the personal touch of smaller events. Did enjoy York Marathon in October though which was actually my first ever marathon that wasn't preceded by a swim and bike or an ultramarathon
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