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danthefan wrote:Jeez fine I'll download your book.6.Jones wrote:Listen, everyone. Download my book.It's the end of the world for chrissakes. If Earth checks out without anyone reading my book I'll be pissed.
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It better be good6.Jones wrote:danthefan wrote:Jeez fine I'll download your book.6.Jones wrote:Listen, everyone. Download my book.It's the end of the world for chrissakes. If Earth checks out without anyone reading my book I'll be pissed.
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Shan't6.Jones wrote:Listen, everyone. Download my book.It's the end of the world for chrissakes. If Earth checks out without anyone reading my book I'll be pissed.
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No but you're an American.happyhooker wrote:Shan't6.Jones wrote:Listen, everyone. Download my book.It's the end of the world for chrissakes. If Earth checks out without anyone reading my book I'll be pissed.
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Persist with it - if you aren't affected by it at the end, you'll a heartless SOBNolanator wrote:The sleep thread reminded me of this.
I've completely stalled with Rise of Endymion. Mostly due to the fact that I only read in bed, and these days I'm asleep in minutes. Most of the time I'll get a maximum of one page done before I put it down or actually drop my Knidle onto my face.
Also, Anaea is really annoying. I don't care about her. She knows everything, everyone loves her, she's so fucking self assured. She's too in control. I have no invested interest in Raul's relationship with her. The bigger story is cool enough, in terms of the social evolution that humans go through, the weird and wonderful mad shit about the Ousters and how they live, a novel take on the whole machines VS humans story, etc.
I just have zero interest is the special one's superpowers.
Does everyone still have bog roll?Bindi wrote:Am reading William Gibson's Agency, and quite strangely am struggling with the near future genre. There's no 2020 virus. The world hasn't changed. That vision of the future can't happen.
Never bothered me with 70's novels missing the mobile phone, internet etc, but this really getting to me.
I didn't like the Endymion series very much for exactly the reasons you stated here. She's not a compelling character and I thought Raul was basically nothing more than a useless foil to illustrate just how "awesome" she is in every possible way. She comes across as a Mary Sue character.Nolanator wrote:The sleep thread reminded me of this.
I've completely stalled with Rise of Endymion. Mostly due to the fact that I only read in bed, and these days I'm asleep in minutes. Most of the time I'll get a maximum of one page done before I put it down or actually drop my Knidle onto my face.
Also, Anaea is really annoying. I don't care about her. She knows everything, everyone loves her, she's so fucking self assured. She's too in control. I have no invested interest in Raul's relationship with her. The bigger story is cool enough, in terms of the social evolution that humans go through, the weird and wonderful mad shit about the Ousters and how they live, a novel take on the whole machines VS humans story, etc.
I just have zero interest is the special one's superpowers.
Yep, it sounds like we're in the same boat with this one. It's been years since I've read either of the 2-book series but I know I won't be re-reading the Endymion duo. It really did feel tacked on to what was a truly brilliant effort in the Hyperion Cantos.Nolanator wrote:I'm not alone, at least.
Another thing is that the Endymion series feel a bit like fanfic or a different author trying to tack on something to a pre-existing work.
Not quite ret-conning the Hyperion plot, but there feels like a bit of "oh, that thing that I said before wasn't quite true, here's what really happened". The Kassad story certainly feels a bit that way, although I'm only about 80% of the way through, so he can still go all hero sacrifice.
The origin of the Shrike is massively muddled. It was cooler when it was just some time-jumping metal monster that was scary and butchered everyone indiscriminately. Bit of Terminator 2 about it.
In Hyperion, I found Sol's story really compelling and I thought the suffering they had with Rachel was well done. When Rachel showed up in Endymion it was just "ok, cool. I guess?". Lots of older characters seem a bit tacked-on.
Ozzie is fundamental to the initial trilogy, and forms the foundation of the later books - but it does seem out of place for a long whiletabascoboy wrote:Currently reading Peter F Hamilton's Commonwealth Saga and about 1/3 way through Judas Unchained. Quite a good read but he is the George R.R. Martin of sci-fi when it comes to adding ever more characters and sub plots. Most of the mini arcs are eventually are shown to be relevant to the main story but seem rather bloated. As for the one with Ozzie, there is still no sign whatsoever of any bearing on the main story...
I thought it must be the case, it's so tangential though so far.Saint wrote:Ozzie is fundamental to the initial trilogy, and forms the foundation of the later books - but it does seem out of place for a long whiletabascoboy wrote:Currently reading Peter F Hamilton's Commonwealth Saga and about 1/3 way through Judas Unchained. Quite a good read but he is the George R.R. Martin of sci-fi when it comes to adding ever more characters and sub plots. Most of the mini arcs are eventually are shown to be relevant to the main story but seem rather bloated. As for the one with Ozzie, there is still no sign whatsoever of any bearing on the main story...
What's not to like about apparently sex starved supermodels who only appear to have a single character motivation?ukjim wrote:Peter F Hamilton spins a good yarn but i find the way he writes his female characters a bit off/creepy
TBF that's entirely representative of my experience of women.Saint wrote:What's not to like about apparently sex starved supermodels who only appear to have a single character motivation?ukjim wrote:Peter F Hamilton spins a good yarn but i find the way he writes his female characters a bit off/creepy
Yeah, I've said before he's obsessed with writing about teenagers fucking. And goes out of his way to make the older characters look like teenagers.ukjim wrote:Peter F Hamilton spins a good yarn but i find the way he writes his female characters a bit off/creepy
It gets there.tabascoboy wrote:Currently reading Peter F Hamilton's Commonwealth Saga and about 1/3 way through Judas Unchained. Quite a good read but he is the George R.R. Martin of sci-fi when it comes to adding ever more characters and sub plots. Most of the mini arcs are eventually are shown to be relevant to the main story but seem rather bloated. As for the one with Ozzie, there is still no sign whatsoever of any bearing on the main story...
Ok. The ending was fairly poignant. Saw it coming from a while off, but still very bittersweet.Pat the Ex Mat wrote:Persist with it - if you aren't affected by it at the end, you'll a heartless SOBNolanator wrote:The sleep thread reminded me of this.
I've completely stalled with Rise of Endymion. Mostly due to the fact that I only read in bed, and these days I'm asleep in minutes. Most of the time I'll get a maximum of one page done before I put it down or actually drop my Knidle onto my face.
Also, Anaea is really annoying. I don't care about her. She knows everything, everyone loves her, she's so fucking self assured. She's too in control. I have no invested interest in Raul's relationship with her. The bigger story is cool enough, in terms of the social evolution that humans go through, the weird and wonderful mad shit about the Ousters and how they live, a novel take on the whole machines VS humans story, etc.
I just have zero interest is the special one's superpowers.
It's in every f**king book as well. I'm reading the first Greg Mendel story at the moment and 19/20 year old Julia and her mate are described in just weird ways. It's not necessary at all imo.JM2K6 wrote:Yeah, I've said before he's obsessed with writing about teenagers fucking. And goes out of his way to make the older characters look like teenagers.ukjim wrote:Peter F Hamilton spins a good yarn but i find the way he writes his female characters a bit off/creepy
Nolanator wrote:Hah, while on the subject of authors writing weirdly unnecessary sexual relationships, I found this summary of Endymion on Reddit.
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I didn't know Kid A wrote book reviews[/quote]Pat the Ex Mat wrote:Nolanator wrote:Hah, while on the subject of authors writing weirdly unnecessary sexual relationships, I found this summary of Endymion on Reddit.
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Massive story spoilers, but I can't help but agree with the points raised there.