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I understand why we're not favourites but don't quite get why we're not been given a chance. It's not that bad a side.
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Ed Byrne out , Bealham switches to 17 and John Ryan onto the bench to cover tight head
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Conspicuous wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:22 pm
irishrugbyua wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:59 pm Leinster Rugby (caps in brackets):

15. Jimmy O’Brien (23)
14. Cian Kelleher (18)
13. Liam Turner (3)
12. Ciarán Frawley (29)
11. Dave Kearney (153)
10. Harry Byrne (15)
9. Luke McGrath (133)
1. Peter Dooley (80)
2. James Tracy (115)
3. Michael Bent (146)
4. Ross Molony (101)
5. Ryan Baird (13)
6. Josh Murphy (37)
7. Dan Leavy (67)
8. Rhys Ruddock (179) CAPTAIN

16. Dan Sheehan (4)
17. Michael Milne (13)
18. Tom Clarkson (3)
19. Devin Toner (253)
20. Jack Dunne (9)
21. Rowan Osborne (5)
22. Michael Silvester (1)
23. Scott Penny (18)

Leavy playing at 7 will tell us a lot more about where he is now in his recovery. Didn’t expect to see him playing there again this quickly and it’s a good sign that the coaches have selected him to play there. Like most people I’m sceptical that he can deliver at openside again at the highest level but at least this game will be a good barometer of his speed around the park and influence at the breakdown post injury
It’s turning into a really tasty team. I expected to see Leavy Ruddock Penny so surprised at that. Baird starting is a massive result. I’m excited to see Harry Byrne and Frawley combo, and JOB at full back.

Why have Rte gone with Heaslip for fudge sake
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CM11 wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:53 pm I understand why we're not favourites but don't quite get why we're not been given a chance. It's not that bad a side.
Farrell needs a big scalp. We haven't looked convincing in the games we have won, if anything we look less organised. The criticism of Joe was he was too structured, if you sacrifice that you'd hope for creative dividends.

Any number of coaches kicking their heels right now could tread water with the players we have.

It's a tough ask to impress against this England team but that's the job.
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Jackman’s analysis of our last hammering In Twickers- Jesus we were f**king shite
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EOS just used the term rugby real estate. I have only ever heard one other person use this ridiculous term. He posts under the name Jumper.
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Duff Paddy wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:18 pm EOS just used the term rugby real estate. I have only ever heard one other person use this ridiculous term. He posts under the name Jumper.
That would be hilarious if jumper was EOS
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Why is Kelleher in the side when he's a worse thrower than Cronin?
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Seems we've found a hooker who's even worse than Besty on a bad day :blush:
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CM11 wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:53 pm I understand why we're not favourites but don't quite get why we're not been given a chance. It's not that bad a side.
Still think this?
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earl the beaver wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:26 pm
CM11 wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:53 pm I understand why we're not favourites but don't quite get why we're not been given a chance. It's not that bad a side.
Still think this?
Yes. :?
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Missed the first 20. Going well I see
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Farrell Out

He's worked with these guys for years if it's not happening now it never will.

The forwards are a mess. Sad to watch.
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Set piece is shite these days. All out
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Kelleher has to be hooked off.
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Shane Daly will have a huge opportunity to make his case for the 15 jersey when he starts next week.
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Just absolute dogshit.
Farrell isn't the man.
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Why is there absolutely no support for ball carriers? This is f**king bizarre.
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Floppykid wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:35 pm Just absolute dogshit.
Farrell isn't the man.
The player base is shit too. Take Stander out, and there isn't a single top class guy in the squad.
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Look at England's attacking shape compared to ours. It's depressing.
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Hmmm.

No positives from that at all.
Backrow missing, front five getting overpowered, setpiece a mess, no attacking shape.
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Handing over to the assistant after a hugely disappointing World Cup was a really stupid decision.

Andy Farrell always had a tough task to follow Joe Schmidt but the least you'd expect, having been part of the set-up already, is that the basic standards would be maintained.

Ireland need some new ideas.
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All Stockdale's fault :roll:
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Not good lads, not good.
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The entire coaching team has to go. The rot from Schmidt's last year is too deeply rooted to be fixed.
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Jumper wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:33 pm Shane Daly will have a huge opportunity to make his case for the 15 jersey when he starts next week.
He won't though, they'll give Stockdale the start, as he can actual do something in attack other than getting hit behind the gainline.
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Can we

PLEASE

PROTECT

THE

BALL

CARRIER

ffs.
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Kanbei wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:51 pm All Stockdale's fault :roll:
Chill out a bit, Stockdale still played like dogshit in his last few games.
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It's still on ...... we should only be 5-0 down






We're fvcked though as we've no set piece and byrne is too deep
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Zico wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:50 pm Handing over to the assistant after a hugely disappointing World Cup was a really stupid decision.

Andy Farrell always had a tough task to follow Joe Schmidt but the least you'd expect, having been part of the set-up already, is that the basic standards would be maintained.

Ireland need some new ideas.
The basic standards from the end of Schmidt's time have been maintained.
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Doesnt really matter who we pick in the back three as they so rarely see any attacking ball. I know he was beat in the air for the first try but I thought Keenan performed reasonably at first glance.

Other than that :blush:
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I actually thought JGP was ok for the first 20-30 mins.
Keenan had an okish game for the first 20.

Both started having mares as the pressure ramped up.
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Two things stand out here.

Experience is no use if you’re no longer physically competitive.

Bulking out the provinces with the likes of Byrne and Burns works great when we’re trying to get consistency in the Pro14. It bites us on the arse when we are looking around for potential Test stars and none of them have the experience.
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Fair to say that the most entertainment has come from Jonny May’s try.
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Floppykid wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:52 pm
Kanbei wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:51 pm All Stockdale's fault :roll:
Chill out a bit, Stockdale still played like dogshit in his last few games.
If he got charged down 3 times in 15 minutes like Lowe or missread that jump like Keenan, he'd be getting loads of shit. But non-UIster players made those mistakes.
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earl the beaver wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:01 pm
Floppykid wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:52 pm
Kanbei wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:51 pm All Stockdale's fault :roll:
Chill out a bit, Stockdale still played like dogshit in his last few games.
If he got charged down 3 times in 15 minutes like Lowe or missread that jump like Keenan, he'd be getting loads of shit. But non-UIster players made those mistakes.
He's made plenty of mistakes like that Earl.
Unbunch your jocks.

Body language from the players coming back out is bad.
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Floppykid wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:02 pm
earl the beaver wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:01 pm
Floppykid wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:52 pm
Kanbei wrote: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:51 pm All Stockdale's fault :roll:
Chill out a bit, Stockdale still played like dogshit in his last few games.
If he got charged down 3 times in 15 minutes like Lowe or missread that jump like Keenan, he'd be getting loads of shit. But non-UIster players made those mistakes.
He's made plenty of mistakes like that Earl.
Unbunch your jocks.

Body language from the players coming back out is bad.
Yes he's made mistakes and been hounded for it. As I said the reaction would be different if he had made those mistakes.
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I think Harry has to be the guy Cullen puts his chips on going forward now.

Sexton and Ross are just holding things up.
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Keenan has been no better than Stockdale in fairness. At least you could believe Stockdale might make something happen.
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When did we lose the ability to kick competently.
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