

Me too. Brilliant, brilliant player. Recently saw a docu on him. Just not the best person.Short Man Syndrome wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:33 pm For my money, the greatest footballer who ever lived. RIP, you crazy Argentinian genius.
"You have to say... that's magnificent!"
I don't think he was a bad dude... he put up with a LOT because of his fame. My favourite line [good one! - Ed] from his autobiography was:LandOTurk wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:43 pmMe too. Brilliant, brilliant player. Recently saw a docu on him. Just not the best person.Short Man Syndrome wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:33 pm For my money, the greatest footballer who ever lived. RIP, you crazy Argentinian genius.
"You have to say... that's magnificent!"
Are substance abuse and depression 2 edges of the same sword? Diego had his demons, no less than Christophe. Just looked on google, and it looks like he had withdrawal symptoms after coming out of surgery just 2 weeks ago.
Things nobody mentions about that goal;
Also focusing on that goal does a disservice to the incredible second goal he scoredDOB wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:13 pm Things nobody mentions about that goal;
The skill from Maradona, surrounded by defenders, to get the pass away to start the 1-2.
Wtf was Hodge doing hacking it up in the air, when it looked simpler to hoof it away.
Hand or not, Shilton really should've been able to outjump the midget.
At Napoli, Maradona reached the peak of his professional career: he soon inherited the captain's armband from Napoli veteran defender Giuseppe Bruscolotti[47] and quickly became an adored star among the club's fans; in his time there he elevated the team to the most successful era in its history.[45] Maradona played for Napoli at a period when north–south tensions in Italy were at a peak due to a variety of issues, notably the economic differences between the two.[45] Led by Maradona, Napoli won their first ever Serie A Italian Championship in 1986–87.[45] Goldblatt wrote, "The celebrations were tumultuous. A rolling series of impromptu street parties and festivities broke out contagiously across the city in a round-the-clock carnival which ran for over a week. The world was turned upside down. The Neapolitans held mock funerals for Juventus and Milan, burning their coffins, their death notices announcing 'May 1987, the other Italy has been defeated. A new empire is born.'"[45] Murals of Maradona were painted on the city's ancient buildings, and newborn children were named in his honour.[45] The following season, the team's prolific attacking trio, formed by Maradona, Bruno Giordano and Careca, was later dubbed the "Ma-Gi-Ca" (magical) front-line.[48]
Napoli would win their second league title in 1989–90, and finish runners up in the league twice, in 1987–88 and 1988–89.[45] Other honours during the Maradona era at Napoli included the Coppa Italia in 1987, (as well as a second-place finish in the Coppa Italia in 1989), the UEFA Cup in 1989 and the Italian Supercup in 1990.[45] During the 1989 UEFA Cup Final against Stuttgart, Maradona scored from a penalty in a 2–1 home victory in the first leg, later assisting Careca's match–winning goal,[49][50] while in the second leg on 17 May – a 3–3 away draw –, he assisted Ciro Ferrara's goal with a header.[51][52] Despite primarily playing in a creative role as an attacking midfielder, Maradona was the top scorer in Serie A in 1987–88, with 15 goals, and was the all-time leading goalscorer for Napoli, with 115 goals,[53] until his record was broken by Marek Hamšík in 2017.
He was a drug cheat.Short Man Syndrome wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:24 pm As well as getting his hands on the WC, his achievements with Napoli remain the most impressive. Single-handedly winning the league twice and running-up twice - you could argue that maybe Napoli had some other useful players, but not really.
At Napoli, Maradona reached the peak of his professional career: he soon inherited the captain's armband from Napoli veteran defender Giuseppe Bruscolotti[47] and quickly became an adored star among the club's fans; in his time there he elevated the team to the most successful era in its history.[45] Maradona played for Napoli at a period when north–south tensions in Italy were at a peak due to a variety of issues, notably the economic differences between the two.[45] Led by Maradona, Napoli won their first ever Serie A Italian Championship in 1986–87.[45] Goldblatt wrote, "The celebrations were tumultuous. A rolling series of impromptu street parties and festivities broke out contagiously across the city in a round-the-clock carnival which ran for over a week. The world was turned upside down. The Neapolitans held mock funerals for Juventus and Milan, burning their coffins, their death notices announcing 'May 1987, the other Italy has been defeated. A new empire is born.'"[45] Murals of Maradona were painted on the city's ancient buildings, and newborn children were named in his honour.[45] The following season, the team's prolific attacking trio, formed by Maradona, Bruno Giordano and Careca, was later dubbed the "Ma-Gi-Ca" (magical) front-line.[48]
Napoli would win their second league title in 1989–90, and finish runners up in the league twice, in 1987–88 and 1988–89.[45] Other honours during the Maradona era at Napoli included the Coppa Italia in 1987, (as well as a second-place finish in the Coppa Italia in 1989), the UEFA Cup in 1989 and the Italian Supercup in 1990.[45] During the 1989 UEFA Cup Final against Stuttgart, Maradona scored from a penalty in a 2–1 home victory in the first leg, later assisting Careca's match–winning goal,[49][50] while in the second leg on 17 May – a 3–3 away draw –, he assisted Ciro Ferrara's goal with a header.[51][52] Despite primarily playing in a creative role as an attacking midfielder, Maradona was the top scorer in Serie A in 1987–88, with 15 goals, and was the all-time leading goalscorer for Napoli, with 115 goals,[53] until his record was broken by Marek Hamšík in 2017.
Let's be clear.
Nah, substance abuse isn't the same as doping.
Coke works for about 10-15 minutes and I doubt he was taking it for doping reasons.message #2527204 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:40 pm He was banned for a couple of seasons for doping. His 'substance' of choice was cocaine and you say that isn't performance enhancing?
No other player can be said to have come as close to having won the World Cup basically as a solo operation. You don't have to accept him as the best ever, but you can't have the conversation without mentioning his name.Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:44 pm Great footballer but no serious argument can be made that he was the greatest imo
Probably involved threats of violence to the opposition. He was a convicted cheat.Short Man Syndrome wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:47 pm He 'may' have been on the sniff, but I fail to see how that would enable ANYONE to take a mediocre, mid-table team like Napoli and win the league TWICE and nearly FOUR times, in what could be considered to be a very strong period for Italian football. Even Michael Jordan had Scotty Pippen.
It wasn't a great team but they weren't shite but the greats are more judged on what they have done for their country than their club sides. I just think you remember the players of your youth as better than they really were.DOB wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:47 pmNo other player can be said to have come as close to having won the World Cup basically as a solo operation. You don't have to accept him as the best ever, but you can't have the conversation without mentioning his name.Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:44 pm Great footballer but no serious argument can be made that he was the greatest imo
Aye. Close control, acceleration, finish. That goal had the lot, he had the lot.de_Selby wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:21 pmAlso focusing on that goal does a disservice to the incredible second goal he scoredDOB wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:13 pm Things nobody mentions about that goal;
The skill from Maradona, surrounded by defenders, to get the pass away to start the 1-2.
Wtf was Hodge doing hacking it up in the air, when it looked simpler to hoof it away.
Hand or not, Shilton really should've been able to outjump the midget.
Probably not the way he shovelled it in.message #2527204 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:40 pm He was banned for a couple of seasons for doping. His 'substance' of choice was cocaine and you say that isn't performance enhancing?
All fair and reasonable, but lacks perspective.Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:01 pmIt wasn't a great team but they weren't shite but the greats are more judged on what they have done for their country than their club sides. I just think you remember the players of your youth as better than they really were.DOB wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:47 pmNo other player can be said to have come as close to having won the World Cup basically as a solo operation. You don't have to accept him as the best ever, but you can't have the conversation without mentioning his name.Anonymous 1 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:44 pm Great footballer but no serious argument can be made that he was the greatest imo
Ronaldos record for his clubs and country is just so far superior to anyone who has ever played it's not close. He has 102 international goals with only one player in history scoring more. He has 9 international hatricks as well. Like him or not it's just not close. Imagine if portugal were any good.
eldanielfire wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:44 pmCoke works for about 10-15 minutes and I doubt he was taking it for doping reasons.message #2527204 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 25, 2020 6:40 pm He was banned for a couple of seasons for doping. His 'substance' of choice was cocaine and you say that isn't performance enhancing?![]()
And by incredible coincidence they both passed away on the same date 25th November