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ZuLurk wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:44 am One thing I'm looking forward to is Pablo Matera

https://youtu.be/Ms4JBNV6L0w
I don't care much for the hair pulling racist.

Sevu Reece can fudge right off too.
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jdogscoop wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:41 am I see the All Blacks are encouraging expat Kiwis to make this a home game.

That shouldn't be too difficult given the location. :D
I hope the Pumas get good support as well. It wouldn't surprise me given I've been to a Wobs-Pumas game at Robina and whole bunch Pumas supporters were on the train, with many more already at the ground.
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mr bungle wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:23 am
ZuLurk wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:44 am One thing I'm looking forward to is Pablo Matera

https://youtu.be/Ms4JBNV6L0w
I don't care much for the hair pulling racist.

Sevu Reece can fudge right off too.
Relax and expect him to get Red Carded early on though as there are mullets galore
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Carfer wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:30 am
kiwigreg369 wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:57 pm One thing I’m looking forward to is the Arg assistant coach and his poker face…
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Thanks Carfer - I’m not a big fan of the guy but I love his passion for the game. Rugby is better for it - and even at the height of his lack of accountability he never produced an hour long ref rant..
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kiwigreg369 wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 1:46 am
Carfer wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:30 am
kiwigreg369 wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:57 pm One thing I’m looking forward to is the Arg assistant coach and his poker face…
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Thanks Carfer - I’m not a big fan of the guy but I love his passion for the game. Rugby is better for it - and even at the height of his lack of accountability he never produced an hour long ref rant..
Cheika reminds me of one of the Beagle Boys. TBF he's been pretty good in his appearances on Stan, apart from refusing to tip.
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capt hurricane wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:41 am
kiwigreg369 wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:27 am Excellent - someone else to play.

I’m hoping for high-level of consistency from last week. Might be safer to rest Taylor & Savea - and Jordie might be on enforced leave.

Otherwise please play the same team.
I agree, Aumua to start, Blackadder at 8, but I'd be hoping to start Jordan at 15 and put Bridge on to start, with Sevu Reece on the bench. I guess you'd have to bring in Sotutu on the bench, or Frizzell, depending on which back row position needs the most cover.
Has Frizell joined the squad in Aus. I certainly hope not.
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kiwigreg369 wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 6:24 am Be jacobson
Yep. And rightly so, too.
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Jordie free to play, apparently.

they should appeal the card and have it removed from his record.
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Let's look on the bright side.
His opponents won't have to waste time shaving if they know they're up against Jordie. :twisted:
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guy smiley wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:31 pm Jordie free to play, apparently.

they should appeal the card and have it removed from his record.
It has been!
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FujiKiwi wrote: Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:19 am Separate threads please.
Social distancing please. Bokke and Wobblies over there, if you don’t mind.
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Team named tomorrow I guess?
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Flockwitt wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 1:44 am Team named tomorrow I guess?
Ledesma names him very early on Friday, Argentina time.
Forty-eight hours before the game, he usually does it that way
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kiwidutchie wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:35 am
guy smiley wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:31 pm Jordie free to play, apparently.

they should appeal the card and have it removed from his record.
It has been!
So the list of AB red cards is still just: Brownlie, Meads, SBW, S Barrett & Tu’ungafasi?

Would be a fun question to ask in the future.
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Whatever wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 2:59 am
kiwidutchie wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:35 am
guy smiley wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:31 pm Jordie free to play, apparently.

they should appeal the card and have it removed from his record.
It has been!
So the list of AB red cards is still just: Brownlie, Meads, SBW, S Barrett & Tu’ungafasi?

Would be a fun question to ask in the future.
In the same way Ben Johnson didn't win the 100m in Seoul in 1988. We all saw it.. but it never happened...
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https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blac ... oast-test/

The matchday 23 is (Test caps in brackets):

1. Karl Tu’inukuafe (20)
2. Asafo Aumua (2)
3. Nepo Laulala (34)
4. Brodie Retallick – captain (86)
5. Scott Barrett (44)
6. Akira Ioane (7)
7. Dalton Papalii (8)
8. Luke Jacobson (7)
9. TJ Perenara (71)
10. Beauden Barrett (94)
11. George Bridge (13)
12. David Havili (8)
13. Anton Lienert-Brown (52)
14. Sevu Reece (12)
15. Jordie Barrett (28)
16. Samisoni Taukei’aho (4)
17. Joe Moody (50)
18. Tyrel Lomax (8)
19. Tupou Vaa’i (5)
20. Ethan Blackadder (3)
21. Brad Weber (11)
22. Damian McKenzie (33)
23. Rieko Ioane (40)

30-year-old lock Brodie Retallick will captain the team in Ardie Savea’s absence, becoming the 71st All Blacks Test captain. Retallick has started 71 of his 86 Tests to date and will be playing his 14th Test against Argentina.
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Pakia Pakia wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:58 pm https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blac ... oast-test/

The matchday 23 is (Test caps in brackets):

1. Karl Tu’inukuafe (20)
2. Asafo Aumua (2)
3. Nepo Laulala (34)
4. Brodie Retallick – captain (86)
5. Scott Barrett (44)
6. Akira Ioane (7)
7. Dalton Papalii (8)
8. Luke Jacobson (7)
9. TJ Perenara (71)
10. Beauden Barrett (94)
11. George Bridge (13)
12. David Havili (8)
13. Anton Lienert-Brown (52)
14. Sevu Reece (12)
15. Jordie Barrett (28)
16. Samisoni Taukei’aho (4)
17. Joe Moody (50)
18. Tyrel Lomax (8)
19. Tupou Vaa’i (5)
20. Ethan Blackadder (3)
21. Brad Weber (11)
22. Damian McKenzie (33)
23. Rieko Ioane (40)

30-year-old lock Brodie Retallick will captain the team in Ardie Savea’s absence, becoming the 71st All Blacks Test captain. Retallick has started 71 of his 86 Tests to date and will be playing his 14th Test against Argentina.
:thumbup: :thumbup: Thanks mate!
OP updated :o
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Pakia Pakia wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:58 pm https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blac ... oast-test/

The matchday 23 is (Test caps in brackets):

1. Karl Tu’inukuafe (20)
2. Asafo Aumua (2)
3. Nepo Laulala (34)
4. Brodie Retallick – captain (86)
5. Scott Barrett (44)
6. Akira Ioane (7)
7. Dalton Papalii (8)
8. Luke Jacobson (7)
9. TJ Perenara (71)
10. Beauden Barrett (94)
11. George Bridge (13)
12. David Havili (8)
13. Anton Lienert-Brown (52)
14. Sevu Reece (12)
15. Jordie Barrett (28)
16. Samisoni Taukei’aho (4)
17. Joe Moody (50)
18. Tyrel Lomax (8)
19. Tupou Vaa’i (5)
20. Ethan Blackadder (3)
21. Brad Weber (11)
22. Damian McKenzie (33)
23. Rieko Ioane (40)

30-year-old lock Brodie Retallick will captain the team in Ardie Savea’s absence, becoming the 71st All Blacks Test captain. Retallick has started 71 of his 86 Tests to date and will be playing his 14th Test against Argentina.
Holy shit :lol:
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guy smiley wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 11:17 pm
Pakia Pakia wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:58 pm https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blac ... oast-test/

The matchday 23 is (Test caps in brackets):

1. Karl Tu’inukuafe (20)
2. Asafo Aumua (2)
3. Nepo Laulala (34)
4. Brodie Retallick – captain (86)
5. Scott Barrett (44)
6. Akira Ioane (7)
7. Dalton Papalii (8)
8. Luke Jacobson (7)
9. TJ Perenara (71)
10. Beauden Barrett (94)
11. George Bridge (13)
12. David Havili (8)
13. Anton Lienert-Brown (52)
14. Sevu Reece (12)
15. Jordie Barrett (28)
16. Samisoni Taukei’aho (4)
17. Joe Moody (50)
18. Tyrel Lomax (8)
19. Tupou Vaa’i (5)
20. Ethan Blackadder (3)
21. Brad Weber (11)
22. Damian McKenzie (33)
23. Rieko Ioane (40)

30-year-old lock Brodie Retallick will captain the team in Ardie Savea’s absence, becoming the 71st All Blacks Test captain. Retallick has started 71 of his 86 Tests to date and will be playing his 14th Test against Argentina.
Holy shit :lol:
I like the loose forward mix... But the backline doesn't feel as strong as last week.
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Good team and better to rest players at this stage.
Great to see Moody back.

I probably would have stuck with Jordan but its a fringe change.
TJ for Weber - it’s a change which would be best to reduce- but Weber is not smashing it out if the park.
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Taylor and ardie rested or haven't passed back to play protocol?
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Monkey Magic wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:12 am Taylor and ardie rested or haven't passed back to play protocol?
I think they passed HIA Protocols, but not being risked...
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That’s not a bad team at all.

I don’t like to say it out loud but Foster is growing on me to the point that I think he might be a decent coach with an ability to select a team that doesn’t feature knee jerk, out of the blue selections.
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trapper wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:26 am That’s not a bad team at all.

I don’t like to say it out loud but Foster is growing on me to the point that I think he might be a decent coach with an ability to select a team that doesn’t feature knee jerk, out of the blue selections.
That’s an early call - hopefully over the course of this season we see the evolution of a strong core team/squad and some players flourish.
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trapper wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:26 am That’s not a bad team at all.

I don’t like to say it out loud but Foster is growing on me to the point that I think he might be a decent coach with an ability to select a team that doesn’t feature knee jerk, out of the blue selections.
He is definitely surprising with his consistency of selections.
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kiwigreg369 wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:36 am
trapper wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:26 am That’s not a bad team at all.

I don’t like to say it out loud but Foster is growing on me to the point that I think he might be a decent coach with an ability to select a team that doesn’t feature knee jerk, out of the blue selections.
That’s an early call - hopefully over the course of this season we see the evolution of a strong core team/squad and some players flourish.
That's what I wanted to see and I'll be so pissed off if he does it :lol:
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Imagine if he wins the world cup to spite us. It's important we remain strong and don't get seduced by victories, no matter how good they feel.
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kiwigreg369 wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:36 am
trapper wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:26 am That’s not a bad team at all.

I don’t like to say it out loud but Foster is growing on me to the point that I think he might be a decent coach with an ability to select a team that doesn’t feature knee jerk, out of the blue selections.
That’s an early call - hopefully over the course of this season we see the evolution of a strong core team/squad and some players flourish.
Yeah, it is but I was pretty quick to put the boot in when I thought he deserved it so I’m happy to give him credit when I think it’s due.
I just like the work the coaches are doing at the moment and see improvement week in week out. I’m pretty excited about where they are heading.
Of course if we get manhandled by the Boks I’ll be back to putting the boot right up his arse…
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Still a bit more shuffling than I'd like. I imagine Taylor and Savea are unavailable, so all good there. However, Reiko had his best game on the wing in probably 3 seasons, so dropping him back to the bench feels a bit unnecessary.
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Grandpa wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:46 am Imagine if he wins the world cup to spite us. It's important we remain strong and don't get seduced by victories, no matter how good they feel.
:lol: :lol:

He'd so do that, just to piss us off
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Grandpa wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 11:26 pm
guy smiley wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 11:17 pm
Pakia Pakia wrote: Thu Sep 09, 2021 10:58 pm https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blac ... oast-test/

The matchday 23 is (Test caps in brackets):

1. Karl Tu’inukuafe (20)
2. Asafo Aumua (2)
3. Nepo Laulala (34)
4. Brodie Retallick – captain (86)
5. Scott Barrett (44)
6. Akira Ioane (7)
7. Dalton Papalii (8)
8. Luke Jacobson (7)
9. TJ Perenara (71)
10. Beauden Barrett (94)
11. George Bridge (13)
12. David Havili (8)
13. Anton Lienert-Brown (52)
14. Sevu Reece (12)
15. Jordie Barrett (28)
16. Samisoni Taukei’aho (4)
17. Joe Moody (50)
18. Tyrel Lomax (8)
19. Tupou Vaa’i (5)
20. Ethan Blackadder (3)
21. Brad Weber (11)
22. Damian McKenzie (33)
23. Rieko Ioane (40)

30-year-old lock Brodie Retallick will captain the team in Ardie Savea’s absence, becoming the 71st All Blacks Test captain. Retallick has started 71 of his 86 Tests to date and will be playing his 14th Test against Argentina.
Holy shit :lol:
I like the loose forward mix... But the backline doesn't feel as strong as last week.
It's not, there was WAY MORE firepower on the wings last week.
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guy smiley wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:47 am
Grandpa wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:46 am Imagine if he wins the world cup to spite us. It's important we remain strong and don't get seduced by victories, no matter how good they feel.
:lol: :lol:

He'd so do that, just to piss us off
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Bloody prick. Just another reason to dislike Fozz.
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Are we getting to the point where the injured/not selected XV is stronger than the XV we've named?

1. de Groot
2. Taylor
3. Tu'ungafaasi
4. Whitelock
5. PPP
6. Sotutu
7. Cane
8. Savea

9. Smith
10. Mo'unga
11. Fainga'anuku
12. Goodhue
13. Ennor
14. Jordan
15. DMac

To my mind, 2,3, 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, and 14 are first XV players.

Won't be easy facing a team that beat us last year with so many first XV players out.
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ZuLurk wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:44 am One thing I'm looking forward to is Pablo Matera

https://youtu.be/Ms4JBNV6L0w
He's a beast. What ever happened to Facundo Isa?
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mrbrownstone wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:47 am Still a bit more shuffling than I'd like. I imagine Taylor and Savea are unavailable, so all good there. However, Reiko had his best game on the wing in probably 3 seasons, so dropping him back to the bench feels a bit unnecessary.
I would have thought they'd give Rieks another go at 11/13 and Brad Webber at 9.
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badmannotinjapan wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:59 am
ZuLurk wrote: Tue Sep 07, 2021 12:44 am One thing I'm looking forward to is Pablo Matera

https://youtu.be/Ms4JBNV6L0w
He's a beast. What ever happened to Facundo Isa?
He injured in the first game against South Africa (sprained right knee with an external ligament complex injury) and returned to France while the rest of the squad travelled to Australia.
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mrbrownstone wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:50 am Are we getting to the point where the injured/not selected XV is stronger than the XV we've named?

1. de Groot
2. Taylor
3. Tu'ungafaasi
4. Whitelock
5. PPP
6. Sotutu
7. Cane
8. Savea

9. Smith
10. Mo'unga
11. Fainga'anuku
12. Goodhue
13. Ennor
14. Jordan
15. DMac

To my mind, 2,3, 4, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, and 14 are first XV players.

Won't be easy facing a team that beat us last year with so many first XV players out.
Maybe. Some parts stronger some parts weaker.
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Rotation makes sense at this point and can expect more next week. I would expect Akira Ioane not to start next week and maybe Laulala along with Havili.
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Pakia Pakia wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 1:24 am Rotation makes sense at this point and can expect more next week. I would expect Akira Ioane not to start next week and maybe Laulala along with Havili.
We lost to Argentina last year with pretty much a full-strength side, would rather not risk that happening again.
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